The Switch has been on the market for just over three years at this point, and while it still has a good few years of life left in it, Nintendo will no doubt have half an eye on the future. We already know about Sony and Microsoft's plans for the next-generation, but what will Nintendo do when the time comes to move on from Switch?
At the company's 80th Annual General Meeting of Shareholders, this very question was put to Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa and director Ko Shiota. Furukawa explains that Nintendo wants "to extend the life cycle of Nintendo Switch", which comes as no surprise given its success, but Shiota notes that the company has been given "a renewed sense of the value" of a dedicated gaming platform.
Could you tell us about the outlook for your next game system? Game hardware has always displayed an image on a TV or other kind of screen while you do something, and I think that’s where the limits for this format are. Would the hardware you’re thinking about go beyond those limits?
Shuntaro Furukawa (Representative Director and President):
Our current generation game system, Nintendo Switch, has entered its fourth year since launch, but its momentum is increasing. We believe there are two factors behind this. First is the existence of two hardware configurations with different characteristics, in Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch Lite. The second factor is that Nintendo’s development resources are concentrated on developing content for a single platform, Nintendo Switch. We want to extend the life cycle of Nintendo Switch while maximising such advantages.
Ko Shiota (Director, Senior Executive Officer):
In addition to the performance aspects (higher technical specifications), Nintendo’s dedicated video game platforms are developed with a focus on providing a comfortable environment for consumers to play fun software. From the perspective of playing with the image displayed on a TV, we believe that because consumers can play Nintendo Switch on a TV or the game console screen itself, it has greatly increased the opportunities for gameplay in various scenes in their lives, compared to previous consoles. Through Nintendo Switch, we’ve made many discoveries about where a dedicated video game platform can fit into a consumer’s daily life. We see scenes on social media of children and their families sitting around a game console to play, which gives us a renewed sense of the value of our dedicated video game platform. We will utilise these experiences in carefully considering the form our future game consoles will take.
So what can we deduce from this? Shiota's comments highlight the fact that Nintendo sees great potential in its current setup with Switch, partly thanks to its hybrid TV and handheld nature appealing to a large audience, but also thanks to Nintendo's new ability to put all of its focus into a single system. No longer is Nintendo splitting its handheld and home console efforts across two machines, nor is it having to try to convince customers to pick up two different consoles.
If Nintendo will "utilise these experiences" when considering future consoles, does that mean we'll see a similar, single-system setup going forward? Perhaps keeping the hybrid nature of the Switch, but with more bells and whistles to keep up with rival platforms?
We're sure fans are more than happy for the Switch to live on for a good while yet, but it will be fascinating to see where Nintendo heads from here when the time comes. Feel free to share your predictions with us in the comments below.
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I hope they just build on what they've started with the Switch in the hybrid market. I don't want to ever go back to dedicated home systems that are chained to the TV. I'm like 99.9% handheld at this point.
After the Switch... I believe the words of Yang Wen-li mirror my state of mind.
Keep the hybrid thing and do whatever Nvidia tells them. Their DLSS technology will be very helpful in 2023, when I expect next Switch will release.
I'm sure I'm not alone in this, but I think the promise of Nintendo being 'focused' on just one platform has somewhat underdelivered on the software volume front. I'd say my expectations were just too high at the outset of this generation, but I imagined the new release schedule would be akin to them basically combining their Wii U and 3DS schedules under one platform, and we'd be getting new games from Nintendo all the time.
I haven't been disappointed by the quality of Nintendo's output with the Switch, but it does seem like we just lost the portable half of Nintendo's usual software output without a proportional increase in their 'home console' output.
What do y'all think?
@BenAV Totally agree I feel like they've hit the mark with Switch s well they should adhere closer to the handheld model(that gave Game Boy, DS and 3DS much longer life spans than docked consoles).
There is plenty of things they can add to the ecosystem to extend its life it's just whether Nintendo as a company can achieve them.
I don't really are what they're doing next, as long as it still innovates like past systems.
I'm so happy with my switch so I hope they keep supporting it for many a year to come. I can see myself playing this thing for like 10 years before wanting something new
My take is, they want players to be able to use their system on the go and on a TV, they also like having all their people focused on one platform. We could see a Switch 2 or maybe the next generation could see two consoles, one dedicated portable, one dedicated to the TV, but one ecosystem of games? they would just look better on the TV and maybe there would be TV console dedicated peripherals.
They will stick with the current format of a hybrid console, as his has a much wider appeal customers, no point getting into the same market with Sony and Microsoft as it's saturated at this point.
Good idea to be kind of mid generation with their new hardware as by that time a Switch with enough power to receive PS5 and X box series x ports will be possible, but in reality they are not going after that market anyway.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The hybrid format is doing Nintendo wonders at the moment. I would gladly see a Switch 2, though Nintendo is not one for direct sequels. Hoping for Full HD in handheld mode and in-dock upscaling to 4K (I don't expect native 4K, something in-between perhaps). It would do the current library wonders as they would instantly be 'upgraded' on the new system regardless of mode.
@SwitchVogel totally agree with this.
I thought we'd see a lot more games from Nintendo.
Far from it actually. The output is about the same as it was on the Wii U, the only difference being now we get 3rd party games too.
I must admit I thought we would have got a little more output on the first party titles, as all their development has switched (pardon the pun), from the 3DS to the Switch, of course that would have taken some time but going forward it will have an impact.
I would hope they keep the hybrid home/portable component as a feature for future system(s), I would also love a battery life, brighter screen and more storage capacity built in. Also- please give us the ability to upload media, music, and custom backgrounds/folders in the system. The Switch and the Switch Lite got a lot right but there’s so much they could definitely improve upon and could they please add a proper legacy/Virtual Console library? The NSO is still a sick joke and could be leaps and bounds better...
Oh and full backwards compatibility with past Switch games, both digital and physical cart formats. I love my Switch and I have several games downloaded and lining my shelves. Having the ability to beam them or plug them into the inevitable new system would be spectacular.
@SwitchVogel I was about the mention the exact same thing. Then again, Nintendo is quite good at keeping mum so it wouldn't suprise me if there'll be some surprise announcements soonish.
@Lukathon Is there much advantage going above 720p on the console screen? 4K on the TV would be great, if there was a way to upscale that much.
A Switch 2, which could run a solid 60FPS at 720p on the console screen for a resource heavy game would be great.
@SwitchVogel This is pretty much my sentiment. It may be worth a more in-depth look to see if this is actually true or not, but this has been how I have felt so far, especially this year (although I don't know if that is due to the pandemic or not).
You could argue that 3DS games were being produced until the beginning of 2019 so the teams hadn't fully combined, but I would of thought that the release schedule would of looked a little busier by now.
"The second factor is that Nintendo’s development resources are concentrated on developing content for a single platform"
So. Much. This.
Nintendo have pretty much perfected the hybrid console with the Switch. I do not want them going another direction I want them to be like Playstation and it is now Switch 2, 3, 4 etc.
There is still plenty of room for improvement obviously: drift, joy cons could be bigger, more storage, online experience, the UI can be refined, eshop could be curated better, the dpad on the pro controller could be better, but generally speaking I love my Switch and Nintendo focusing on one platform at a time.
So I want the next console to simply be Switch 2 with improvements mentioned above and a sizeable, but realistic, increase in power.
Oh and going forward, backwards compatability is a must. That has to become the new normal for all the consoles.
Interviewer: Following Switch, what is next for you?
Nintendo: I finally rest and watch the sun rise on a grateful universe.
@MarioBrickLayer I do think so. Not a huge jump, but then at least it's on par with the multitude of smartphones releasing nowadays that also have a Full HD screen. I also think it's a great selling point for the current Switch audience whose games would simply look better. It's easy to underestimate the potential of that particular feature with this setup. Consoles and TVs tend to develop in parallel, but an old console will look more or less the same on a higher resolution television because it's the same output. Now we would have an older generation of 720 games that have the potential to look 'upgraded' on a newer system (in handheld mode at least).
@SwitchVogel yep you're right. And if you take away all the WiiU ports it is all very underwhelming. For me the only plus is to have some great games with me while i'm on the road. And i really miss the two screens while playing portable. So the situation is that i'm still playing a lot more on my Wii, WiiU and 3DS. Switch never really replaced any of these consoles with huge stream of fantastic releases.
I hope Nintendo keeps innovating with their consoles. They shouldn't fall to the same as PlayStation and XBOX and make only incremental updated consoles. The next Nintendo console should be different from the Switch, but it should also be a hybrid system.
After Nintendo released their Wii U, I always said they would release a tablet-only console next. And I was (mostly) correct here. (I thought it would be connected to the TV using a wireless dongle and I never guessed the controller would be removable)
The next Nintendo console should really combine the strength of a stationary console and a handheld console. Even beyond what the Switch does. Also I think it should have a foldable screen, since I really loved the dual screen idea of the original DS. And foldable screens being the next big thing. Like a 1280x1440 screen that can be folded to a 1280x720 screen with streaming of the "second screen" (1080p / 4K) to the TV.
@SwitchVogel whole heartedly agree
@SwitchVogel There have been more Switch games than Wii U games, and all games are a lot bigger compared to Wii U and 3DS games. So no, I disagree. Sure there are less games, but to me quality > quantity. And with the Switch the quality of the games are extremely high.
@SwitchVogel I've been underwhelmed with the games on Switch, as a Wii U owner I can think of only Mario Odyssey that has been a truly great experience on Switch that I couldn't play elsewhere in some form. Smash is great but I've also played several versions and they're not that different whilst Animal Crossing at its core is virtually the same gameplay loop its always been. There have been a few good third party exclusives but even then most are ports of last gen games or recent games but 6 (if not more) months late.
Oh Luigis Mansion 3 was very good too but overall my experience with Switch is that if I never bought one, I can probably count on one hand the games I would truly have missed out on
I think they should be Nintendo and do the unexpected... throw out everything about the Switch and make something different with a gimmick. I don't know what that is but I know its graphically inferior to anything else on the market.
@sanderev all games are a lot bigger? One of Switch's biggest games in BOTW is a Wii U game
Obviously Switch games take a bit more workforce, time and money to make than 3DS games, so I don't think you can just add the Wii U games to the 3DS games and get that amount of Switch games. For me it's not the amount of games, it's that the last quarter of the year has most of the titles.
As in after the Switch, you would guess about the same, more power and perhaps a better solution to the TV dock.
My gaming day looks like this; got home from work, grab the switch and play on the couch, while my wife is watching netflix 😂.
Or we play mario kart together. Lol.
But most of the time i play handheld.
I hope they stay on the hybrid road, its a gold mine. So a switch 2 would do. The switch needs more power, ao i hope they will reveal something soon to blow us away.
The idea of being a fully powered console that is also a handheld is perfection. Nintendo will always to to innovate but this has to be their standard going forward. While I know that specs don't matter, for their next console, power has to be a consideration. If they are able to get close to Microsoft/Sony they'd attract back the big third party games.
What I am getting at is for a Switch 2 I'd like the same but more 😂
@SwitchVogel I imagine the issue with that is that it takes significantly more dev time to make a Switch game than a 3DS one. Plus all the Wii U ports take time too, less than a new game but definitely a significant amount of time.
@sixrings The latest "unexpected" Nintendo console was the Wii. Which they needed because of the GameCube not selling as well as it did.
The Wii U was a very simple development of the Wii and they tried to combine it with the DS (two screens). That failed, but like I said above. The move to a full handheld console wasn't that unexpected.
All I really want to hear Nintendo announce is a VR headset. So, if a Switch 2 is coming and it's not a VR headset, I hope they at least design it with proper VR compatibility in mind this time around. Much in the way Switch can be plugged into Labo VR for a very basic but still compelling VR experience, a proper version of some VR attachment like this for Switch 2 that has a much higher resolution and greatly increased specs could be a genius move imo. Seriously, VR is the future of gaming and entertainment in general--that's not a statement that the other forms are going away but purely that it's the most exciting and magical of all the forms as far as I'm concerned--and I absolutely want Nintendo to be a part of that.
As long as Sony stays in their lane and doesn't try to copy Nintendo with their own hybrid device, but with higher resolution and better performance, the Switch can have a good lengthy life cycle. Microsoft can do what they want, it'll still be the laughing stock of the Japanese gaming market anyways.
@SwitchVogel You are definitely not alone on this one. I was fully expecting to see a more frequent output of first party games as they don't have to split development between 2 platforms. It's a shame it didn't end up that way. We don't even have a new Mario Kart game, yet there was one on BOTH, 3DS and WiiU.
That said, going back to 2 platforms in the future would be the worst they can do imo. They've proven a hybrid system can work and will hopefully stay for the future.
@impurekind Gaming should never be VR only. I don't want Nintendo to make a VR headset only console.
For me it's great to have a handheld that connects to the TV. And not the half ass effort that Sony tried with the Vita and PlayStation TV. So much wasted potential right there.
More interested in good software. That said, if their next console isn't a seamless hybrid of some kind, that would feel disappointing
@MajinSoul MarioKart 8 has more copies sold on Switch than on Wii U. Also it's still one of the best selling Switch games. So why should Nintendo make a new one for the Switch?
Also Switch games take longer than 3DS games to make. (HD graphics, performance between handheld and docked, etc).
Nintendo will have to be careful how they market their successor to the Switch...
Calling it now - it will be dubbed the Switch-eroo
I mostly agree, but I think the reasons are pretty clear by now. Switch is a great success, it's going towards 110 millions units sold, but more incredible than that are the INSANE software sales, with some games selling in the millions at full price and even more year on year. So it's not like they need to release a lot of games all at once, given they're getting a lot of third party stuff compared to previous consoles, too.
Besides that, a Switch game requires more resources and development time then the average 3DS game, I think you'd agree with that. Having said that, it's not true we're not getting the portable part of software output. We've got Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Clubhouse 51, Luigi and Fire Emblem on Switch, and I bet Style Boutique and Tomodachi Life are not too distant in the future.
Whatever it is better have real online play.
"Could we get a Switch 2?"
Isn't that the Switch Lite?
wouldnt we rather a Switch successor that a minor switch revision?
We already talking about switch 2
The good thing about Sony/micro is their hardware lasts longer each gen.
Wii u 2012
The next will be Nintendo HDS
Switch + Clam design + play 3DS and NDS games as well
@TheFullAndy Agree 100%. I just want a Switch 2, 3, 4, 5, etc. The hybrid model works perfectly for me.
@SwitchVogel Hard to say, but as someone who only ever owned a Wii U, my God there were some barren days... Many weeks of listening to IGN's NVC passed with no news bar an upcoming amiibo release or an indie title getting a port.
There have been a lot of ports but we've also seen new iterations of Xenoblade Chronicles, Luigi's Mansion, Yoshi, Smash Bros, Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing and Pokemon as well as updated versions of Mario Maker, Mario Party and Splatoon.
Plus there have been a raft of fun new original things like Nintendo Labo, Ring Fit Adventure, 1-2-Switch and ARMS.
For me, the games I'm most excited about are still on the horizon (a Zelda built for just one system, Metroid Prime 4 and Bayonetta 3) but there has been a constant stream of stuff I think compared to being a Wii U owner, even before you take into account the NES / SNES releases, 3rd party support and indies.
The fact it's slowed down though in the last year suggests they focused their efforts on a killer launch period and having blockbusters for the holidays. It'll be interesting to see what happen next time around and from here on out. Whilst the first year of Switch was amazing, you have to factor into that scenario that bar a couple of small 3DS releases, they'd scrapped all Wii U game development for months, maybe years, prior to the launch of Switch and so were essentially putting everything into making that first year stellar. I doubt they could do that again.
This topic would make an interesting comparison piece for sure. Are releases slowing up or not compared to Wii and Wii U?
@sanderev Yeah, which is why I specifically pointed out it's not about replacing the other forms of gaming and entertainment entirely.
Nintendo could easily bring out a Switch 2 with an upgraded Tegra to maintain backwards compatibility, improved Joycons that don't break after 6 months, a 1080p screen, better battery and a bigger eMMC inside the console. They could sell the whole thing as one unit or just the display part so users can upgrade at a lower cost.
@SwitchVogel Yes, exactly this, I expected more software from Nintendo studios since 3DS has been dropped.... This certainly hasn't happened thus far..
@LetsaGO PS5 will release this year
Usually a second original Zelda is the nail in the coffin for a Nintendo system.
Nintendo Switch is my first console and it has changed the way I play games. I love that freedom of playing games in so much different ways. I don't think the Switch principle has to compete with "classic" smart devices because of its joy-con advantage, that no one should underestimate. I'm sure that's the main reason for its success.
Just give me a Switch 2. That's all I want.
@SwitchVogel you are absolutely spot on, there seems to be a lot of filler third party stuff but very little from Nintendo themselves other than the odd major release.
@SwitchVogel Yeah, I agree with you on that one (#4).
We'll get a Super Switch and it'll sell poorly compared to the original for some weird reason (which will be Nintendo's fault, given their more recent track record of the Wii U and 3DS). Then they will make something to blow us away after that. What that will be is anyone's guess.
The Switch for sure has quite a bit of life ahead of it. It feels weird seeing questions about what's next when we aren't anywhere near slowing down. I think Nintendo has really found it's niche with hybrid consoles. No more splitting their devs attention between two pieces of hardware and at the same time still giving the players the best of both worlds. Stick with it Nintendo!
Personally, I want to see something come from that patent for increasing power with an external unit. I feel like they could release a dock upgrade in a year or two that enhances things for the TV side of things. Maybe follow that up with a new Switch tablet with that baked right in after another year or so. With gradual upgrades spaced out right I can see them easily pushing past their original planned lifecycle.
As for the whole software expectations thing, I'm really not seeing the lack others are. For the 3DS they could pop games out like nothing because they didn't need to be as big. I also honestly think they had more planned for the 3DS that got hard switched over to the Switch once the writing was on the wall for the 3DS. Not only would it take them more time to make quality Switch games, but it'd take even more time to port and upgrade them from the 3DS dev environment. I think Nintendo has also really learned their lesson about taking their time and making things right. If you rush you get the current Pokemon situation. The DLC feels like a small taste of what could have been if GameFreak had the freedom to take a little more time. The current world situation is also for sure slowing things down. I think they have a lot of games ready to go, but now they are spacing them out more to make sure they can fill the spaces originally meant for games that have had their development slowed down. Giving us game rations to make sure it lasts the upcoming game famine.
"We see scenes on social media of children and their families sitting around a game console to play". In my dreams he said "We see people on social media asking for a new f-zero game" #keepdreaming
Of course the Switch has plenty of life left in it yet, they still haven't ported all the Wii U games over to it yet. Imma right?
I had a feeling Nintendo wanted the 3ds to die. Too bad, because it was truly a great console and could have still been today. Unwavering support and uncompromising quality is the statement Nintendo made by supporting the 3ds as long and as greatly as they did. That said blaming the 3ds and complimenting the switch lite saddens me.
I feel decisions like the switch lite is what really holding Nintendo back, releasing new hardware models without correcting previous shortcomings. When the switch 2 arrives hopefully far into the future Ill rather have optimization upgrades than power so that we arent stuck with a powerful console thats broken and still hasnt solved the joycon crisis.
As a handheld loving gamer I find joycon concept on a handheld ingenius. It not only changes the game but extends the life of the system by being replacable, lol if only the joycons could not die before the console every single time.
I know I'm in the minority, but I'd love a Switch with the 3DS lenticular 3D tech! I'd pay good money for that!
I think it'll be called The Switch Next and I guarantee they're already working on it. The new chip that they decide to use is going to dwarf the power of the X1 chip.
@Ogbert I’m with you! I still play the 3DS with the 3D up to the max! Love it
@SwitchVogel Like others have said I completely agree
Sadly for myself the latest big titles haven't been to my personal taste, like Animal Crossing, Sword and Shield ect.. Last title I bought was Luigi's Mansion 3, and the next big release Paper Mario isn't my cup of tea either so I've not had much to get excited about
Personally keep hoping we'll see a new Starfox game and it'll be really good like the 64 days but probably wishful thinking on my part, if they can give us a new Starfox game, Super Mario Land remakes, Wario Land remakes, a new Wario World, a new F-zero and stuff like that.. I'd be super happy
I’d love the Switch successor to be called something like the Super Switch or Switch Ultra X2. But of course it’s likely to be something boring like New Switch or Switch Pro Deluxe.
My opinion is they own the hybrid market so they’d be stupid to go in another direction. They‘ve revolutionised gaming for a lot of people by making console quality games really convenient to play in our hectic lifestyles. I know a few people that have got back into gaming because of exactly this. Beef up the Switch a little so that future ports keep a-coming and improve/innovate other aspects that aren’t hardware. Like NSO for example.
As other people mention here, i hope they keep going hybrid and innovate. 😊
When you look at it most major Nintendo franchises are catered for, and like you said Nintendo will be keeping some games very close to their chests.
Even if they make a bettter console,I'm not sure i will buy it.Because Nintendo games either became so good that a sequel won't be much an improvement (SSBU),or went in a direction that's good,but i personally don't like at all (BOTW 1 and 2)
My one of my few but major problems with the Switch is the games. It's unified the home and portable lines of games on one system, but the output feels like it's still just one system.Not too many of the usual exclusives have been all that good. ARMS, Super Mario Party, Kirby Star Allies, Mario Tennis Aces, Yoshi's Crafted World - these are all okay games, but they're not THAT good, let alone system sellers.
Another problem with merging the two lines is the pricing of the formerly portable games. This is especially notable with the Pokemon games on Switch, which when it comes to a content-to-price ratio feels like a total rip-off. Why is it that $40 games from over 10 years ago have more content, features, and in some cases more Pokemon than the $60 Sword & Shield, which also have a $30 DLC pack, and run about as well as a 3DS game? I don't think devs realize, or more accurately don't care, how much a $10 price difference can make. I've seen so many people turned off by Rescue Team DX just because of that $60 price tag and the fact there's no new content, and I really hope the fact it didn't sell as well as it could have doesn't affect the chances of a Explorers of Sky remake.
Lastly, the lazy Wii U ports. Aside from Mario Kart 8 DX, none them even tried to add content or fix issues. Pokken DX has the illusion of new content until you remember all but one of the added new characters is just ported from the arcade version. I'm still expecting a Pikmin 3 DX where it's the same exact game in every way, just with the crappy DLC that didn't really add anything.
Id like to se a really prolonged generation for Switch, generation leaps doesn't feel as important now when we are used to mid-generation refreshes. I could see Switch live until 2025 if they make a modest refresh with a Deluxe/Pro-model with full-HD screen, better storage and somewhat higher performance.
A next generation Switch-system should ofc. be called Switch Up
@johnvboy @johnvboy They only recently phased out the 3DS, so they're surely working on more titles and those take time since Switch development takes up more resources than 3DS.
That said we did get a proper 3D Mario game, Smash Bros, Luigi's Mansion, Zelda (with a second coming), new ip's such as ARMS in just 3 years and we know Metroid is coming as well..and those are just off the top of my head.
I do believe once Metroid releases, this will be only the 3rd time since Snes and GameCube, where Nintendo manages to release the big 3 on one console let alone with other new ip's that have made a name for themselves.
On another note, this is also the first time since Snes, that big titles all get released on a Nintendo console that is heavily supported by 3rd Party devs, so Nintendo needs to also make sure 3rd Party titles get their spotlight and sales too. This is what I believe is also a big part of the Switch's success formula.
Could be Nintendo also held some cards back so they can still compete when PS5 and XBSX release. Nintendo does usually keep such scenarios in consideration.
All I know is, I've been spoiled too much by the uniqueness & enjoyment I've had with the Switch that anything other than this gaming hybrid from Nintendo won't get as much love as this one gets.
So there better be a Switch 2
Very true, so it will take a while for this to impact the releases on the Switch, going forward I am sure there will be many more titles to enjoy.
Just give us a Switch Pro Better GPU, a bit of a better build quality, and we're good. Thanks!
Making HD games is a lot more time consuming than producing 3DS-level graphics. Getting teams up to speed takes time. AAA games have never taken longer to make.
Naughty Dog released the Uncharted trilogy and Last of Us during the PS3. For the PS4, only one title in each series, and now they’re moving on to PS5.
There was no new GTA this generation. Just a port with some new features.
Compared to their peers, I bet their Publishing output exceeds everyone, even if you exclude ports.
I hope they stick to just one platform and I hope it at least stays portable. But it’s always going to be a struggle between power, battery life and cost. It needs power for those 3rd party games, but for it to be powerful and stay portable it needs a good battery and those 2 things aren’t necessary cheap right now.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo releases the Switch Pro end of this year - just an overclocked version to help games reach that 1080p docked / 720p handheld goal. I expect an announcement around September.
The proper Switch 2 won't be out till end of 2024 which will match the XB1 / PS4 power wise and will also target 1080p docked / 720p handheld.
Sounds like they are pretty happy with the switch and it’s versatility. Also, they emphasized having multiple iterations of the same console and being able to focus all their development power to that one console (so they aren’t going to try to juggle two different pieces of hardware at once). Just like they did with the Wii to Wii U, I’d wager they will rinse and repeat (of course adding an innovation or two) for their next console.
I hope they keep the continuity like with the App Store and apps remaining even when you upgrade phones, I hope the same is true here, that the software we've downloaded or physical copies bought are still playable on the new machine.
I could also see them releasing a dock that improves performance to keep the longevity up, then a few years later release a Switch2 then a few years later a new dock that boosts performance etc etc.
Possibly, I mean it would not be the first time Nintendo said there was no new hardware revision on the horizon, only to release a new hardware version information a short time after.
@SwitchVogel For me it isn’t so much the first party games that are lacking. It is the third party titles. Sure, we have lots of indie games and shovelware. However, I believe the fact that people weren’t sure the Switch would succeed highly affected publishers to throw money behind it. We are missing some major handheld titles so far such as the Shin Megami Tensei titles, Ace, and more. Now that it is apparent we may see these games pop up more as the Switch’s lifespan is further extended.
@Res462 Sadly a lot of people here don't see that, they want everything now, these things do take a lot of time, some of these titles for the new consoles were most likely started 3-4 years ago minimum.
@LetsaGO you realise PS5 comes out this year right?
Here's why it keeps selling and growing...
hybrid TV and handheld nature appealing to a large audience
No other devices are out there to take that away. And the last part large audience this is how you survive the gaming market. If you can't do this then you will play 3rd fiddle regardless of how much GPU you have and we know whom those are. Vita had a chance but someone decided to kill it.
@Si-Po @sanderev thanks. Honest mistake.
PS4 still had a long life. You can even still play pS3 games online.
Nintendo just drops support quick. (Wii being the exception)
I concur with this quote from the author:
“Perhaps keeping the hybrid nature of the Switch, but with more bells and whistles to keep up with rival platforms?”
Is he not saying they are considering a dedicated tv only switch console? Strip out the screen, battery and dock and presumably you can reduce the price a lot. Sub switch lite price, maybe.
I'd be fine buying a portable system and console system if they both play the same games and my saves carry over between the two seemlessly.
Whatever comes next, I hope they don't amputate its potential at the height of its success, like they've been doing with the Switch Lite.
@Coproll You aren’t the standard gamer, however. Most people didn’t pick up a Wii U. And most families can’t afford to have more than one machine. There are at least 20 million more people that never got to play Mario Kart 8, Tropical Freeze, and the others. When they got the Switch, first party never seemed better.
@SwitchVogel Spot on in my opinion Mitch, the actual volume of Nintendo's own content seems far too similar to Wii U's were they were under more pressure to release games due to a trickle of 3rd party support. The 3DS had nearly one game every 2 months, the Wii U had a game every 4 from Nintendo.
I think part of the problem is Nintendo "may" actually be releasing a game every 2-3 months, but the game isn't immediately compelling. There's alot of Switch games I didn't buy because I have them on Wii U or 3DS. There isn't alot of truely "NEW" content they've produced.
I was always excited at the next Wii U (and to a lesser extent 3DS) game, but this gen has honestly been a "wait until Metroid and F Zero" gen personally. Even 3rd parties haven't been quick to jump onboard, we are seeing games I would have expected 7-8 months in, not 3 years after the fact.
@johnvboy Well, that depends on whether or not you had a Wii U I suppose. A new Mario Kart, Donkey Kong or even Captain Toad would be great, although I'm already happy as Larry with a new Zelda and Metroid on the horizon. Moreover, there's plenty of indie game goodness.
I loved the Wii U and think it deserved better, I do see the Switch as an evolution of that console.
@King-X I would argue though that those games prices are higher because of the fidelity of those games (I realize not all) but you can't make most of the newer AAA games on Switch that will be on PS5 etc. So Nintendo games should stay cheaper as they just don't have the development matching these newer games. I say this as Breath of the Wild being one of my favorite games so I am not trying to say graphics are best, but there is a lot of work involved in making games "pretty".
Great news. 5 yr cycles are bogus.
I am on a hiatus from Switch until 2021 (recently sold mine). I do plan on getting another one once more games are available that I want to play (BOTW 2 mainly). So my concern is how do they compete with the sheer power that is being discussed with the new systems? I suppose if the next system is even more powerful then they could reach PS4 levels (maybe), but it sounds like Nintendo just wants to make fun games (I think this is fine) but that does come with the facts that they won't have a lot of 3rd party support except from Indie studios. I think going forward Nintendo will be more of a system for casual gamers who just want to play some fun games (again nothing wrong with this). It just wouldn't make sense for them to try and compete anymore with Sony or MS. I'll always have some sort of Nintendo system for that purpose, but I would like for them to continue backwards compatibly going forward. If they reboot their eshop after this Switch then I am done. I lost a lot of games moving from WiiU to Switch and with my eyesight I can't really play 3DS anymore so all of those games are now lost to me as well. Sucks as DQ VII and DQ VIII are stuck there.
@BenAV Agree, only time I play switch on the TV is when the kids want to play MarioKart. For my personal play it is always handheld.
@Dracavius from a business point of view I totally understand it. but I think it is lazy, they could have so much more to please all gamers.
and still, I miss the two screens. 3DS and DS is still a perfect portable solution.
Would love to see a PRO DOCK that boost RAM/ Memory/speed and with streaming options and screen mirroring like Wii Minecraft
@Anti-Matter I totally want that! And free pictochat with voicechat to talk while you draw!!!!
@johnvboy I agree, it's such an underrated system. Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3, two HD Zelda remasters and Breath of the Wild, Captain Toad, DKC Tropical Freeze. Come to think of it its range of Nintendo games is actually a bit better so far than the Switch one.
I think there's no going back from the hybrid model. It's too perfect
Well, Nintendo did just improve the Gameboy as the time passed. I think they're going to do the same thing with the switch.
Backwards compatibility, better memory, and data transfer to a Switch successor (maybe call it the Power Switch) are what I'd be hoping for, but with the Switch's current momentum, that feels like it's at least two years off.
I would love the switch to keep hybrid where it’s portable to play on tv as well as not on tv but handheld. I would love to be able to play my 3ds games and wii games on the switch as my wii stopped working years ago currently have 3ds but plan on getting switch I really hope Nintendo finds way to allow on the next Nintendo console to be able to play switch games and wii plus 3ds games and then to be able to play all previous retro past Nintendo games as well as the new games for the next generation of Nintendo consoles because it’s shame 3ds has been discontinued so has the wii games as loved wii fit and wii sports.not being able to play them anymore as don’t have them anymore as the wii console dosent work anymore so that would amazeing for Nintendo find a way to bring all there retro games and current games all under one console would be brilliant. Would love to see more memory built in the switch would be great to plug in external harddrive or usb stick for memory as well as the memory cards I would hate that I wouldn’t be able to play switch games on the next console as that means the games I spent money buying for the switch would be money wasted
@Leif81 The screen is a sub $20 part the battery is even cheaper. I don't see that reducing cost much at all. Unless they expect huge volume they would be putting the switch guts into the dock with a new case on it. Same controllers and grip in the box as the normal switch.
With enough volume they could design a new motherboard, but that's a lot of sunk cost for what I would bet is an incredibly small market.
NES => SNES
GB/GBC => GBA
N64 => GCN
NDS => 3DS
Wii => Wii U
Nintendo has always iterated on their hardware platforms with direct successors. The successor to the Switch will almost certainly be the "Switch 2" i.e. a home console/handheld hybrid with better hardware specs than the current Switch.
On the other hand, the "Switch 3" probably wont be a traditional "Switch 2" successor but rather something different.
New sWiitch U2 Pro sign me up!
Well for starters, developing Switch games takes a lot more time and effort than 3DS games. This isn't an issue that just affects Nintendo - I remember a time when Rockstar released multiple new GTA entries + GTA spinoffs on handhelds + Red Dead + Max Payne + Midnight Club + LA Noire + Manhunt in a single generation rather than just one brand new Red Dead entry like this current generation.
And combining their home console and handheld output into one single platform gets rid of a lot of the redundancy - there is no need for two Mario Karts, two Smash Bros titles, four Mario Partys, two Mario Makers, two Mario Tennis entries, two NSMB games, etc.
"Is fine as is" is what I get from this and yes, it is!
For a Switch successor all I could think of is a bit more horsepower and maybe analogue triggerbuttons. Otherwise the Switch is a runaway hit and I wouldn't experiment with the formula too much now that they finally got it right!
@SwitchVogel doesn't help that what does come out will default to $60 either if they do make smaller games
i want more 3ds dna in the next switch looking at how some game are struggling without the 2nd screen... huh both examples i had in mind happened to be from square enix, bravely default 2 and the world ends with you. I also think the improved 3d on the new 3ds was super coool, wanted one but wasn't into having my options limited to the xl
Beffier hardware, more memory and powerful processor. no need to change resolution. improve frame rate and buttons slightly bigger and more clicky. thats all i need.
Switch 2 better be a lot beefier. Too many 3rd-party titles skipping the Switch because it can't run them well. Nintendo's been home to most of the recent Monster Hunter games, but for World you have to look elsewhere. No CoDs, no RE 2 or 3 remakes (and 7 is a cloud-streamed Japan exclusive), no Sekiro, etc.
Personally I love my Switch. I mostly play handheld and tabletop but the option to put it on the TV is great for when I'm watching Hulu of YouTube. Personally I'd like for the next system to keep the hybrid nature and detachable controllers, but have the detachable controllers not suffer from disconnects and drift. Also to have a second screen for handheld play
@SwitchVogel I'm happy with the current software release. The quality is way better plus we get things like Dead Cells, Risk of Rain 2 and Hyper Light Drifter on the go. Quality over quantity
@BenAV Same here, although I been in handhelds since Gameboy and Virtual Boy. But the switch makes me feel like a kid again, so love my switches
I agree it's underrated but it's lack of Animal crossing on the Wii U holds it back for me, still some great games.
@LetsaGO Agreed! Nintendo is also notorious for dropping support for the current console as soon as the new console is released. Example: Legend of Zelda BOTW, last Wii-U game released. Sony continued releasing PS3 games well after the release of PS4.
A 4K compatible Switch 2 with backwards compatibility would be fantastic but I don't want to see one launch until 2022 at the latest. For now I think the current Switch is in a good position.
Hopefully soon we see something like a Direct to back up "We want to extend the life cycle of Nintendo Switch", Switch 2020 is looking a lot like Wii U 2016 at this point.
I hope they stick to this hybrid model they did so right with the Switch! I love my Switch (and play mostly handheld) and love that I'm no longer tied to a tv or strictly a small screen portable and split between which to play. I always neglected portables more that way but now it's perfect!
I've always been a Nintendo and PC player while I did enjoy Xbox 360 and PS4 I now don't care for consoles other than Switch. I'm PC and Nintendo player now (as long as Nintendo keeps doing the hybrid thing following the Switch then I'll keep buying Nintendo as my only console).
@SwitchVogel Totally agree. The games on Switch are fantastic, and with all the great indies I certainly can't complain about the Switch library, I already have enough games to last years to come, but I definitely thought Nintendo would have a higher output.
There are plenty of IP that have come out only on portables and other than pokemon most of them still haven't come out on Switch. I expected Switch would get a full helping of the complete array of franchises that used to come out on Nintendo's home and handheld systems. I don't see why Nintendo hasn't been putting out several more AA games per year than it has been. It really feels like the handheld teams didn't move over to the Switch at all. The fact that several Nintendo games have just been Wii U ports makes this all the more obvious.
As far the next system, just doing a Switch 2 is the best choice. That is still several years away. Maybe at most adding built in VR capability if its powerful enough to make that work well, but otherwise, just a much more powerful Switch, upgraded screen, much more disk space, backwards compatible with Switch games, have a fully fleshed out Switch Online and virtual console subscription service by launch, get rid of terrible friend codes, have bluetooth for headphones, have built in voice chat and get rid of the stupid app for that, and for the love of god no joy con drift. Switch as a concept is damn near perfect, I just want a Sony-style straight boring upgrade for the next gen Nintendo.
Once I get through the 5500 games on my homebrewed Wii, maybe then I'll think about something new.
@SwitchVogel Strongly agreed. I think there's a few factors involved in that.
First, 3DS games were fast and cheap to crank out. HD games aren't. It was a bit of an overestimation to think we'd get even similar quantity output to 3DS alone let alone 3DS + WiiU. In reality we'd get slightly more output than WiiU, but all bigger HD games without a large ramp-up in terms of staffing to be able to increase that volume.
Second, we know Nintendo likes to stash the vault with content to have available for a rainy day (sales slump, next hardware, etc.) I think they've learned that their current sales model of highlighting one or two big games annually meets their sales goals, boosts sales on those few games, and allows their output to be moved forward to keep managing costs. Basically by starving the system of content but hammering a few "evergreen" games' drum constantly, they drive up "social driven" sales of those few games, while having to produce less content, and coasting in autopilot. (Cost optimization.) Technically that's smart business by exploiting the good will of customers socially driven tendencies in the modern world. They seem to be, of all the gaming companies, the most "social media driven" in terms of their marketing and sales. Personally that's a massive negative. Great games or not, they've been making most of their games around the model if maintaining it's viral nature on social to continue driving sales. One could call it the "Fortnite model."
And third, the arrival of third party presence in earnest on Nintendo means they can dial back their own costs and content production and leave it to minimal to drive sales, while raking in the licensing royalties.....just like the good old NES days. And there's an argument to be made that they should back off on their own competition against their third parties if they want those partnerships to be fruitful and expand. Competing against Nintendo is probably one of the most significant reasons third parties shy away from their hardware to begin with. It kills their sales.
All that said, I do miss the 3DS release schedule....
A successor to the Switch in a similar form factor will require a very large effort. The Switch revolves around the prebuilt Nvidia mobile chipset (and the Switch was the cause of the end of the Nvidia Shield tablet line). Nvidia has not released any information on any continued work on the mobile chip line so a new Switch will take a lot of time or have to rely heavily on streaming, DLSS, and other tricks. I don't think 720p and 1080p will be acceptable after 2022.
A successor that is backward compatible to the Switch has to be the way forward for the future. I just think that any other ideas or a totally new concept is not needed right now. To move away from the Switch would be commercial suicide for Nintendo. With Switch they have found the perfect format for everything that is Nintendo.
I see where you're coming from, but that's not really a fair expectation. Considering developing HD games takes a lot more effort than 3DS games. Look at how many non HD, 3DS games Atlus produced versus HD games in the same time period even to now, where 3DS development is done. I just never saw that as a fair comparison.
On a similar topic, I see people on here not seeming to grasp how long development actually lasts.
They should make a console like a ps4 or xbox because I feel like they will make alot of money yea they made Nintendo switch but they don't got good graphic and it cost $300 I feel like a console like ps4 or xbox will be great or even ps4 and nintendo combined so we could play ps4 games and nintendo switch games or xbox and nintendo combined
@LetsaGO Nintendo drops support when they clearly can't make money off of a system. I think Nintendo pushed the Switch launch forward 1 or even 2 years because of the Wii U failure.
And yes. Both Sony AND Microsoft do the same thing. Remember the PSTV or PSP Go.
@westman98 Except your wrong
It was GameCube => Wii => Wii U. Those three system shared the same infrastructure.
However I don't see Nintendo releasing a Switch 2. They NEVER released a "2nd" generation of the same console. Each generation did something different.
I think a meaningful upgrade can be achieved without fragmenting the base. Imagine a switch with Bluetooth audio, a 1080 screen with smaller bezels, a longer battery, what about front and/or rear facing cameras? How about a 5G antenna to take advantage of real on the go gaming? All the while all models continue to be able to play the same games.
Love my switch the longer it goes on the better, lets be honest you could still be playing it 20 years on and still enjoy it, especially with the games I have installed. Its becoming a 2D shoot em up fans dream system.
I can't imagine buying a non hybrid console. But the next gen for them should be about refinement. Fix all the issues with the switch, give it more power, make the games backwards compatible and then we're good. I just hope they don't pull a Switch U....
They should keep the dual use system, portable and TV. But for next gen, the stand should give some extra processing power, so when on the TV it could deliver a much better performance. Like a modular machine.
Maybe a controller (Pro Controller) with the technology of the switch built in minus the screen, cartridge and SD card slots plus a sync button. Download the Nintendo Online App whether it be on iOS, Android, Smart Tv, Tablet etc... connect your console and play on any screen???
Probably a Nintendo Switch Dock with the internals of the console and a cartridge and SD slot for the players who like to game on the TV only. Call it the Nintendo Switch XL.
Nintendo Switch Lite - Handheld
Nintendo Switch - Hybrid
Nintendo Switch XL - Home Console
@sanderev SNES? GBA? 3DS? Wii U?
@westman98 All of those added new features.
Snes added 16 bit gameplay and a better controller.
GBA added 16 bit gameplay, and also better controls and a bigger screen.
3DS added 3D, bigger screen, more powerful cpu & gpu, more ram and more storage.
Wii U added a new controller, with it's own screen and hdmi and was around twice as powerful as the Wii.
None of those were incremental.
The ONLY Nintendo handheld that WAS incremental was the Gameboy Color, which only added color.
@BenAV This will sound mean but.. It's nintendo..
They will release a brand new system.. It will be "all new" and you'll probably have to re-buy all your software. The games you "own" on your current system wont be compatible with your new one.
This isn't a pc. Thats actually how the gaming console companies rip us off.
We pay 300 for the system then 60 for a game that can run on anything. They just have to recompile it and then we download it for the new system just like we have to download it when we upgrade a memory card in the switch. But watch the games "conviently" "won't be compatible" with the new system. You'll have to re buy them...
Basically they're ripping you off by double dipping or charging you twice for a game you allready own.
Switch 2 will be more powerful than Switch 1 (better CPU/GPU/RAM) and could easily introduce a bigger screen and higher resolutions (1440p or 2160p/4K). That's comparable to the changes that the SNES, GBA, 3DS, and Wii U brought to the table compared to the NES, GB/GBC, NDS, and Wii respectively (outside of introducing a radically new controller like the Wii U gamepad, which was a dismal failure that Nintendo probably won't repeat).
JoyCons already have all of the necessary button inputs found in a standard controller, so JoyCons 2 for Switch 2 probably won't have any new button inputs.
The only reason Switch wasn't backwards compatible is because it was built with a radically different architecture compared to the Wii U/3DS and didn't have dual screens.
If the Switch 2 is a single-screen hybrid built on a Nvidia SoC like the current Switch, expect it to have backwards compatibility.
I really hope we see the Switch brand carry on for a while yet. I don't see myself going back to tethered TV only console again anytime soon. The Switch is great, but there's still so much more Nintendo could do with the brand, like VR. I just hope the next Switch is fully backwards compatible with current cartridges and downloads.
Switch 2 bound is my hopes as well with most peeps on here; my only concern, and I'm not a tech person to a point, is a 4K will make the portable battery life 1/3 of what it currently is. Would dig 1440p portable and 4K upscale to give the dock a purpose other than go-between device.
Yes I do understand that but do you understand the part of the e-software im saying?
If a gamer bought a physical switch BUT ALL 5 of their games were downloaded $301.50 spent with taxes, then when nintendo releases the NEW system if a gamer decides they want to trade their system in for an upgrade and it has been discovered, Like usual by design that the new nintendo system is NOT backwards compatible THERE IS NO WAY THOSE GAMES CAN BE RE USED OR TRADED IN SO THE MONEY WAS WASTED then on an E-Version since there's NO difference in online or physical price.
How backwards compatibility of digital content is handled will remain a mystery. My guess is that the save data can be transferred over from Switch to Switch 2, and you'll just have to redownload the game on Switch 2.
after the Switch i can't live with a tradicional console, i don't see Nintendo doing a tradicional console as the sucessor of Switch, the hybrid nature of Switch is excelent, not improving on the hibrid nature of Switch is a downgrade, Nintendo need to keep the hibrid console formula for future Nintendo consoles, be able to play games such as Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild and it sequel in a HD console that you can play in your Bedroom/living Room is really good, tradicional console, home/handheld console is now dead for me and i hope Nintendo understand now that days of only dedicated home/handheld console is now dead.
They have to stick with the hybrid platform, I’m one of those switch users that plays 90% docked, 10% handheld. This model is fantastic, always give the consumer options, I’d be disappointed if they regressed to strictly home or portable consoles
@SwitchVogel looking at what games we've gotten, besides the first few from the first year, it looks almost more like we've lost the home console games. Just about everything is either traditionally portable, or home to portable ports which are typical when there's finally a portable performance enough to play that game.
@Wavey84 it won't. It'll be close to base Xbox One in performance. Probably a Tegra Xavier.
But building on that, if they essentially took half of a Drive Pegasus, that would be the same SoC as their portable, but would also strap on a GPU that can do what you're asking for — 4k et al.
we can deduce just one future for nintendo...
All these people acting like we get as few titles as the Wii U clearly didn’t own a Wii U! Sometimes Nintendo would barely get one game I’d want out a quarter, let alone a year! Now it’s a constant stream!
It's just approaching it's halfway point so we won't get a new console for atleast another 4 years or so.
Hopefully they continue the Switch concept, as I believe it's the best innovation in video gaming. I can't imagine going back to a TV only or portable only console again. Update the graphics and processor, and keep it going.
@SuperCharlie78 That's a good point, and I'd add the Link's Awakening remake (and, perhaps, even Fire Emblem: Three Houses) to that list. The question I've been pondering is what would be considered 'enough'? Do I expect a major Nintendo game each month? Each week? Each day? What defines a 'major' game? Does something like Sushi Striker or Clubhouse Games count? If not, why is that the case?
I'd like to reiterate that I'm satisfied with what Nintendo has put out thus far and with the overall state of the Switch library. Just seeing that comment in the article about the condensed development resources had me reexamining my past expectations compared to where we're at now. Also, I don't pine for the days of two separate platforms being the norm. Even if Nintendo isn't putting out nearly as many games now, I would never trade the convenience of a hybrid system for two separate platforms with different specs, control schemes, third party support, etc.
I feel like the Nintendo Switch is still to fresh and new to replace, so much untapped potential still (which Nintendo continues to fail in using such as the online invites feature) plus they can make so much more better use of the Nintendo Switch Online app as well like they did for Animal Crossing New Horizons!
For people who decided to stay portable only, they have the Switch Lite as an option. The Nintendo Switch still has so much left to offer and is still getting so many new titles added that it still feels like is a new console, hard to believe is been almost 5 years already, I believe they should extend its lifespan, just like they did with the Nintendo 3DS!
@sanderev "I think Nintendo pushed the Switch launch forward 1 or even 2 years because of the Wii U failure."
Nintendo considers Switch to be a home console. So, 2012-2019 would have been the span of Wii U on the market if they hadn't "pushed the Switch launch forward 1 or even 2 years". Name me one Nintendo home console that had 7 years on the market before its successor. For reference, let's look back
NES (1986 nationwide US launch)
SNES (1991 US launch)
N64 (1996 US launch)
GameCube (2001 US launch)
Wii (2006 US launch)
Wii U (2012 US launch)
Switch (2017 US launch)
The only pushed up time would have been a half a year, because only Wii lasted 6 years, so unless Wii U sold more systems than Wii would it have lasted 6 years, no other Nintendo home console got more than 5 years, and remember the NES had over 90% of the US market, and it didn't even get 6 years as its nationwide launch wasn't until 1986!
@TrueDespair666 doubtful, Nintendo has never given a home console an 7 year span between its release and its successor's release. The only one to get 6 was the Wii (2006-2012).
@hotgamer77 Nintendo has already said that the Switch might have a lifetime of 10 years. So I could see them releasing a Switch Pro in 2022. And the successor in 2025-2027. (with extended support for the Switch until at least 2027) This would be very similar to the GameBoy/GameBoyColor, and DS / DSi scheme.
The Switch is both a handheld and a console. And Nintendo absolutely does NOT see the Switch as a console only. Because then they would have NEVER released the Switch lite. Actually I think they see the Switch more as a handheld with console capabilities. (one Switch per person, instead of one Switch per family)
The Switch replaces both the consoles and the handhelds, and is both at the same time.
It feels like the Switch has only just gotten started 😲
Nintendo's blundering lack of UI updates aside, it's a great platform that would benefit from many more years... but it definitely needs a hardware refresh.
Nintendo would be shooting itself in the foot if it started from scratch with a new console now.
@BenAV Agree. I think this is the perfect blend. I will be happy with my Switch for a very long time.
There is no doubt they will continue with a hybrid console next generation. The interesting thing to be seen is whether they can make sure not to fall too far behind technology and performance wise compared to the dedicated consoles.
It is actually quite remarkable that the Switch has pulled of such success, when it's no better performance wise than the now 15 year old Xbox 360.
I’m still under the impression that Switch is a scalable OS. I feel like the next device will run under the same OS, taking a leaf from the way Apple does it, hence their use of the word platform. Power etc will be boosted but your old software will still run.
I'm glad they've pretty much confirmed we're getting a Switch 2 at some point. I hope with the Switch 2 they'll focus on making the handheld experience more pleasant e.g. giving us an OLED screen at a higher resolution and a much better battery. I wouldn't mind them removing things like touchscreen since they're very rarely used and the money spent on them could be used for things like more RAM.
@RadioHedgeFund The problem is, which tegra? Nvidia doesn't seem to be interested in developing new tegras, & their latest pascal based ones are only sold to automakers & machine learning iirc
I'm calling it, if cloud gaming should really work out as well as Google, MS etc. hope, then the next Nintendo platform will be more like a mix of Wii U and Switch:
You'll have your home console and a portable unit (or your own smart device?).
The portable unit will somewhat resemble the Switch but will actually use cloud gaming.
Maybe the portable unit could also have its own hardware, similar to the switch. But that would cost extra.
The world, and the technology, is finally ready for the VirtualBoy.
This time, it will be called the Switch Virtual. Hopefully it will stop Nintendo's every other console success trend and go back to the NES/SNES one-two punch days.
@DoktorTotenKopf i agree 300% on the backwards compatibility for both digital and physical Switch purchases! Nintendo should be able to figure this out!
Imo Switch shouldn't be replaced anytime soon. I very much dislike how quickly ppl are ready to kick a console/system to the curb and get the "new" "better" ones. IMO it always seems like game developers never even get close to maxing out the potential on these systems before another system comes along to replace it. There has been a few examples, mostly 3ds and DS that held on for impressive amount of time with many games that truly did max the potential of the systems. DONT do it Nintendo, just because Sony and Microsoft are bringing shiny new consoles doesn't make the Switch any less great. Nintendo has always chosen to take alternate paths in the console wars with great success (most of the time...wiiU) . A time for Switch replacement will come, but that time is not the immediate future.
Also. Long live the Nintendo 3DS!
@hotgamer77 The Wii U would of been longer if they marketed it correctly but they screwed that up. The Switch is going to have at least a 10 year lifespan. Like sanderev said it's a handheld and a console. It's going to last for quite sometime.
When I got the Switch I was hugely impressed by Breath of the WIld. Sure, it was a Wii U game, but it still featured vast landscapes and changeable weather, some physics and stuff. It felt quite advanced for a console less than an inch thick.
Then it gets games like Doom, Skyrim, Wolfenstein, Dark Souls and The Witcher 3. This took me completely by surprise. I thought it may get more third party support than Wii U but I didn't expect it to get REAL third party support.
To me it feels like developers are just getting started with the AAA ports and we will get another load of them in the next couple of years.
Switch doesn't need to be replaced yet. But when it is replaced they don't need to do much to it. All I can think of is - if they make a home version and a lite version again, make the home version bigger. I think the screen could stand to be at least an inch bigger on the diagonal, which would make the controllers a bit bigger.
I agree with many of the posts talking about continuing their own hybrid console innovation to the next gen...
I have become a 90% handheld gamer with my Switch.
I suspect there next console may well be a Switch Advance/Switch Advance Pro with various improvements. Though they might exclude the "pro" part so as to not put off the more casual market.
I can't believe how gaming YouTubers took this and ran wild. "OMG, Switch 2!" I read this and think it's just some super-vague notions of there will be something after the Switch. That's not exactly a revelation. Anything beyond that is baseless speculation.
@G-Nome I find it odd that you're so sure that the next Nintendo Console will not be backward compatible. The Wii, Wii U, Game Boy Advance, DS, and 3DS were all backward compatible. And to be fair with the Switch, it couldn't be compatible with the Wii U because of that system's optical drive, and I think trying to make the Switch run 3DS games would have been very messy because of trying to format duel screen games onto a single screen and the fact that they used very different chips sets. So the question is, will the next console resemble the Switch? If the answer is yes or kind of, I bet it will be backward compatible.
@BenAV I would like a dedicated console experience to improve the performance on some of the switch games. I would like the switch to have both a handheld and a dedicated console. The vita did a great job with the relationship of the ps3 and ps4 and I think that if the switch had a relationship like that with a dedicated home console itd be a massive success.
'If Nintendo will "utilise these experiences" when considering future consoles, does that mean we'll see a similar, single-system setup going forward? Perhaps keeping the hybrid nature of the Switch, but with more bells and whistles to keep up with rival platforms?'
That sounds like the best route going forward. Nintendo has proven with Switch that it doesn't need to release new hardware to offer different and new experiences. Nintendo Labo is a Switch software, after all! Peripherals are the key to new experiences, while the core hardware remains as it is.
In fact, that's where the new revisions and whatnot, the "Pro" Switch comes in, I imagine including something like an AR camera there for example, and next-gen Joy-cons with new tech that opens up the possibilities of new experiences.
I'm afraid I will say more about this when I comment on a newer article, heh...
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