Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes Is Being Ported To The PlayStation 4 And PC

I really enjoyed Travis Strikes Again for my Nintendo Switch, it’s a fantastic game! Doesn’t bother me, but I’m still sad to see Games life Octopath Traveler, and TSA not being Exclusive anymore! Oh well, times are changing!

Is this how third parties plan to treat Nintendo when they aren't paying for their games? I'm already sick of these timed exclusive games. First Octopath, and now Travis Strikes Again? Stop getting rid of our exclusives. The minute Switch loses all of its exclusives, is the minute I toss it out the window. PS4 and PC has enough games. Let Switch build up it's library.

Happy for PS4 owners, even if this isn't the full-on No More Heroes experience. I don't understand how my fellow Nintendo fanboys can be angry about this and beg for a Persona 5 port. Unless Nintendo or Sony help fund a third party game, don't expect it to be a permanent exclusive. It's that simple.

@Morrow Hey you realize this is a very good thing right? More people being able to play a game is always good. The game being ported to PS4 doesnt remove it from the Switch, nor does it mean the Switch loses the ability to play it portably.

@Morrow Why are you acting like such a dumb child?Did you only care about this game cause it was an exclusive? That's pretty sad to be quite honest.

Don't know why you console players get all heated when a dumb exclusive goes multiplatform. You already got the game on your piece of plastic, let someone else play it.

Well, it's a UE4 game, so it makes sense that it would go multi-platform and was probably super easy to port.

As for me, I didn't get it on Switch, but maybe I'll pick it up on a Steam sale down the line.

If it help pay for a new NMH - all for it.

Rather games be multi-platform anyway - Let gamers pick where they want to play each game.

@Borngis I disagree. Im only a console player for exclusives. If the console industry gave up on exclusives, I would toss all current and future consoles and never buy them again. I care about Sony exclusives, and I care about Nintendo exclusives. We shouldn't be able to play each other's games. Want Sony IPs? Get a PlayStation. Want Nintendo IPs? Get a Switch. Sure, we don't lose the game to play, but we do lose it as an exclusive, And that's the point I care about.

@MsJubilee I only care about consoles for exclusives. If the game industry gave up on exclusives, I would give up on consoles. It's not being childish, MANY people care for exclusives. I'm fine with games being for all systems, ONLY if it was first announced as such, or be honest and say it will be a timed exclusive. What I hate is when they lie and say it's only for one platform, and then later reveal it to only be a timed exclusive. It's not being honest. If they want it to be multi-plat, then say it from the beginning. If they want it to be an exclusive, keep it as such forever.

@Morrow Literally how does it no longer being an exclusive affect you. There is no reason to throw a tantrum over a game being ported.

@Morrow And therefore you ignore the existence of timed exclusives which have been around for over 20 years.

Cool. The more people that buy it the better chances for 3. Enjoy!

Nintendo funded games are exclusive. We need multiplatform games and it goes both ways. That’s why we have devs digging in their back catalog for stuff that never came to Nintendo before. That FF dump? Better be glad squeenix didn’t say sony only. Keep spreading the wealth devs so that gamers have a choice for where they want to play.

(Didn’t folks slam this game? And now it’s horrible that it is being ported? Topsy Turvy day)

@Borngis Clearly you don't see the difference between being annoyed and throwing a tantrum.
Nintendo and Sony are awesome because of their exclusives. If everyone got to play everything, we all mine as well be on PC. Which is not a future I want for gaming.

While I know it's irrational to be disappointed by this news, I do feel Suda my have lost a bit of integrity here. The first game was ported without his consent to PS3 and X360, both of which he says have absolutely nothing to do with him. The second game remained a Wii exclusive.

Any talk to a future No More Heroes game was always meet with 'it needs to be on Nintendo system' too. Obviously it is on a Nintendo system, but the implication was that it was an exclusive to Switch because, well... Nintendo.

I can't see TSA doing well on PS4 and PC either really, but at end of the day if it results in NMH3 then so be it.

@LzWinky I didn't ignore anything. Like I said, I don't mind timed exclusives, as long as they are upfront about it. Like 'play Destiny first on Ps4'. Honesty is what I care about, and I'm tired of underhanded tricks to make companies the most money.

@Morrow This isn't a 1st party game, nor did Nintendo do anything to lock down exclusivity for it, so I don't know why you're annoyed or surprised it's coming to other platforms.

Eh, just feels better when it is Switch Exclusive. May not pick up what ever Suda is selling this E3. Feel like it would just sit on my shelf like of of the stuff releasing lately.

Good. I don't have the game, but I'm glad more people can play it.

@yuwarite I feel like no one is reading my whole comments, lol. I will say this only one more time, and will cap the important part so everyone notices it and stops talking about the same thing.
I DONT MIND TIMED EXCLUSIVES IF THEY ARE UPFRONT ABOUT IT. I AM ANNOYED BECAUSE THEY WERENT. THEY SAID IT WAS AN EXCLUSIVE AND THEN LATER TOOK IT AWAY. THAT IS THE PROBLEM I HAVE. IF YOU SAY ITS AN EXCLUSIVE, DONT TAKE IT AWAY LATER. IF YOU WANT IT TO BE A TIMED EXCLUSIVE, THEN BE HONEST WITH YOUR PLAYER BASE AND LET THEM KNOW BEFORE THE GAME COMES OUT.
(Again, I capped so everyone notices, because I'm being asked the same thing over and over.)

the switch release of this game was suppose to tell us weather there was demand for a third game for the switch or not, the multiplatform thing they are doing here doesn't help us with that info and that is a bit annoying

@Morrow Things change; perhaps it made sense to be a Switch exclusive when they fist announced it, but a few months later, it made more feasible sense to be ported to other platforms.

Not only does this benefit more gamers, but it benefits their relatively small company as well. This will help finance the release of a NMH3 as well.

I believe that, except for first party games, no other game should remain exclusive to one console. But I could not make the switch to a PS4 version.

@Morrow
What difference does it make if the game is an exclusive or timed exclusive? The quality and content of the game itself wont change, which is all that matters.

Some of you guys take these console/platform wars way too seriously...

@Morrow
Man... Gotta tell you... Chill down... It's not normal your behaviour do you understand?... Freaking games that's it..
Enjoy what you have, enjoy your games, enjoy your life...

Ps. I may have agreed with you if it was Zelda or Mario but...

@Morrow the salt is real

Complaining about a game you can play on switch is available on other machines.

@Sunanootoko Man you got to read. I said I put caps because I was trying to get people to stop asking me the same question I already answered a few times over. I wasn't mad at them, I put caps to make people read it so they would see I answered their question

Was never interested in the game, but cool that other people get to play it.

@Morrow the reason they dont need to say timed exclusive is because most people don't care.

People just wanna play games.

@IHateTombs I wasn't freaking out. I put caps to get people's attention on what to read so they don't skip on reading it. I basically got asked the same question multiple times and it got annoying. Considering I'm reading everything that everyone else sends me, I want the same respect back.

@kobashi100 Actually a lot of people care about exclusives. There are many people that buy consoles soley for exclusives. Me being one of them. I didn't buy an Xbox One because it has no exclusives. You can play any of it's games on PC.

@yuwarite Yes, and you make the best argument out of all these people. However, I don't like how they are treating consumers. You know I never once in my life bought an EA game? Because they treat their consumer base like trash. I don't support dishonest developers. If they want it to be multi-plat, that's fine with be, but they need to speak up before it launches. The only guess I can get is if it was going be a switch exclusive, but they couldn't keep it as such for the lack of sales. However, if that was the case, they could have said that too

@Morrow I hear where you're coming from. If they said the game was exclusive, then lied about it, then I'd be frustrated too.

It's the fans junk that's happening with the epic store right now.

Something tells me that if the game devs who had this game kickstarted, turned to the fans who supported them and said, "Hey, we know we said this was a system exclusive but... It's coming to epic too! Don't be mad, more people playing the game now!" people would be upset... And they are. A lot of players are feeling cheated.

Exclusivity and portability are what's keeping the Switch alive right now.

@Morrow

Get a life son.

@Kalmaro Thank you! Someone who understands. Mario Odyssey sold 16 million, BoTW sold 14 million, Xenoblade 2 sold 1.5 mill, exc. People are buying the system because of the games (BoTW is on Wii u but that system is trash and has no exclusives on it anymore besides Xenoblade X)

@SBandy I have a life, but thanks for the concern dude. If you hate what I'm saying, welcome to the console industry. A lot of people share my feelings on it, and a lot don't. Some people care about exclusives, and some people don't and just want to play on their platform of choice.

@SBandy Bro you should be a comedian, lol. I see you got jokes. The biggest joke is seeing comments online and assuming you know how a person lives. For calling me an idiot, you sure did something pretty stupid there.

@Kalmaro do you honestly believe that the people who bought Travis strikes back are now up in arms about this news. People didn't buy the game because it was announced as an exclusive. The idea that people are upset about this is laughable

@Morrow

That is a whole lot of rubbish you just spouted.

@AlternateButtons

"mistreating us"

It is videogames ffs.

@AlternateButtons wait you just said the Wii U is useless because games were ported to 3DS and Switch. If you think that's the reason that the Wii U is now useless then I have no idea where you was during the Wii U lifespan.

@kobashi100 Actually, I did. I was only slightly interested. I bought it to support Switch exclusives, so you could imagine my annoyance when I could have skipped on it, since it wasn't an exclusive after all.

@kobashi100 the Wii u was bad for a lot of reasons. No exclsuives, bad advertisments, terrible UI, forced gamepad support, the list goes on

@AlternateButtons

How did I attack you?

@AlternateButtons Yeah, people don't understand how the console industry works. Xbox One failed because it didn't have exclusives like the 360 had.

@SBandy It's okay to disagree with people, but it's very childish to insult them for having different opinions than yours.

@iLikeUrAttitude

Who did I insult?

@SBandy @Morrow

@AlternateButtons

How did I "attack" them?

@iLikeUrAttitude

Yes?! Something to say?

@Morrow The more people can play a fame, the better. The switch will still keep it's first and second party games, such as animal crossing, Luigi's Mansion, etc. I guess you should enjoy throwing out your switch for a couple games per year, rather than keeping it for the other exclusives and the portability feature.
P.s. you are being childish

@SBandy Telling someone to get a life and calling them an idiot is insulting someone. Not that it bothers me. I graduated elementry school long ago.

This is good news but the comments say otherwise

I'm not gonna lie, after reading through quite a bit of comments it seems like there"s more people making a bigger deal over the supposed salt & fanboyism than there's people actually going on about the $#it for real. It's like many of you are trying to make it an issue just to go on about it & beat up a lot of strawmen.

@Abeedo Another person who only read what they wanted to. I said I would throw it out if it lost all it's exclusives. Or at least if they threw out all the ones I care about. As long as they keep their IPs I'll keep it. But this is starting to concern me for the IPs future as exclusives.

@Morrow

You did? Well that makes your comments even more embarrassing as I assumed you must be a kid cause why would anyone over the age of ten get so annoyed about this stuff?!

SBandy 64 yo.

@DarkLloyd Pityfully, the game didn't sell much. The game didn't even appear in the top 30 Best-Selling eShop Games in its launchtime as far as I know.

@SBandy you don't understand because you are unwilling to see another person's take on this. I care about exclusives. I only buy consoles for exclusives. Two got taken away, and is making me concerned that this could be the future of Nintendo. Nintendo got a new boss, so we don't know yet how things will turn out yet.
My retort to you is, why would someone over the age of 10 call someone an idiot, and tell them to get a life, over games?

@Morrow No need to concern man. The switch is getting 4 full time exclusive games this year (Mario Maker 2, Fire Emblem, Luigi's Mansion 3, Animal Crosding), two launch exclusives (astral Chain, marvel ultimate alliance 3), and some games that may release this year that haven't had their release dates announced (links Awakening remake, some Indies, unnanounced e3 games). That's plenty to play. There's no need to be worried. Let the PS4 and PC players have their game.

@Morrow we perfectly understand how the console business works.

We just don't care about third party games going multi platform.

@kobashi100 What if second party is next? Even third party exclusives stayed as exclusives in previous console generations. However, current gen is throwing exclusives out the window.

@Morrow

Because they need to be told.

On a serious note, if this stuff worries you so much you need to drop gaming and find something else in your life. Game devs are dropping like flys and exclusives from independent game devs aren't really possible anymore as they are denying themselves millions of potential customers.

What was your view on Cuphead coming to Switch?

Exclusives should remain first and second party. Third party should be accross the board of possible.

@SBandy As long as Nintendo keeps their IPs, I'll stay with Nintendo. It's these loss of exclusives that have me worried that they might eventually multi-plat first party exclusives. Cuphead was never an exclusive, because it was on PC as well. It was a console exclusive, but not a true exclusive. I only care about true exclusives, game that are only on a single platform.

@Morrow

And if that day happens you can have your meltdown but considering No More Heroes games have already been ported to PS3 is your reaction not a bit of an overrreaction?

@Morrow I must have missed GTA going multi platform in previous generations right. Plenty of third party Games in last generations became multi platform.

Thank God Publishers and developers dont give one damn about some small minority who get upset about this.

@SBandy My annoyance is more towards the company than the game itself being ported. If at launch they announced it as a time exclusive, I wouldn't be annoyed at all. I just want companies to be honest and upfront with their consumer base. I buy lots of third party games on Switch, but the reason I'm on it is for the exclusives.
What is so wrong about wanting developers to be honest with the people buying their games? I bought Valkyria 4 collectors edition on Switch as an example. That was available on all platforms, but I bought it on Switch. I'm fine with that because they didn't try to trick their audience on saying it's available on only one platform then backpedaling later on.

@kobashi100

The biggest was Resident Evil 4 and that was two generations ago!

@kobashi100 You cannot deny it's been happening more and more as of late, compared to previous gens.

@AlternateButtons "I bet they'd be okay with porting Mario Odyssey to PS4" A PS4 port of Mario Odyssey? That would be an excellent PC port would be even better. Imagine playing Odyssey in 60FPs and 1080p? Now that's something I would love to see.

@SBandy Videogames are serious business yo.

@Morrow Eh it's not really new. Rememeber Capcom during the GameCube era? If it sold well, it got a PS 2 port but if it didn't...well at least I liked Gotcha Force & PN 03 was ok. Almost expect it nowadays from 3rd party hits on Nintendo consoles.

@MsJubilee Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not crying over this. If I want to cry, I'll go watch Clannad. Now that's something that will make me cry.

@Riderkicker Yeah, I get what you mean. It just sucks that they aren't being upfront about it. As long as first party and second party stay exclusives, I won't be mad.
But companies not being honest with their consumers always gets me annoyed. It's why I hate EA.

@Morrow

Was this Travis game actually described as a Switch exclusive? Genuine question as I am not sure.

I was there for the Resident Evil 4 betrayal in 2005. It was meant to be exlusive to Gamecube and Shinji Mikami said he would chop his own head off it was ported....but it was ported to PS2 and then every console ever since pretty much (and til the end of time probably).

RE4 is a masterpiece but only 1 million of the 20 odd million of the Gamecube userbase bought it so it had to be ported to recoup costs. It sold much better on PS2 even though it was not a perfect port.

My priority is third party game devs actually make enough money to stay in business and keep making great games. It should be everyones priority.

First and second party exclusives will still continue for Nintendo and Sony.

@SBandy Yes it was, and they never mentioned it was timed. They always advertised it as 'only available on switch' 'exclusive to switch' exc.

@SBandy Yeah, don't get me wrong, I do think some third party games should never be exclusives, and RE is one of them. I care about a company doing well too, but only if they are honest. I don't care about companies that policies are all about only making money.
For companies that are not confident on their game selling well, just announce it as a timed exclusive or multi plat right away.

@Morrow

Companies will never know if their game will sell well or not.

Unless a game dev has been paid to keep a game exclusive I will never begrudge a third party game dev (not even then to be honest as I didn't pay them!) releasing their games on multiple consoles because it increases the chance of their games doing well and allowing them to keep making games.

Edited to make sense.

@Morrow wait so are you actually saying that game publishers/developers should not be allowed to change there mind even if they announce a game as exclusive.

They are not charities and first and foremost they want to make money. Travis strikes back when released was exclusive.

You could only get this game on Switch. They never lied to you. Months later they now want to make it multi platform. Nothing wrong with this at all.

@SBandy They could base it off of sales from previous titles in the series to guess if it needs to be multi plat or not.

@AlternateButtons @Morrow
Wii U still has exclusive games...

@kobashi100 Exclusives mean forever on one platform.
Timed exclusives are on one plaform for a limited time.
Console exclusives are only on one console while being available on PC.

They did lie because they used the wrong terminology to advertise their game.

@AlternateButtons "Why do you think the Wii U is useless nowadays" Maybe it's an old console that no one cares about except for the minority who think it's gods gift to gaming.

"I bet they'd be okay with porting Mario Odyssey to PS4" You know Nintendo will get more money from a PS4 or PC port, right? More cash more investments. Simples

"Third-party companies are mistreating us and taking us for granted" If you're talking about the third party who made these exclusives. They released the product they promised you, you got it, and now they're moving on. It's not their problem; you think these "exclusives" lost value.

@shaneoh Xenoblade X, and Tokyo Mirage Sessions. Mirage Sessions is trash because of the censorship, so I don't care about that game. X is the only U game I care about.

@Morrow

Oh come on, I am trying to engage with you here so will you get real?

Game devs need to make money to survive and the best way to make money is to make their game available to the widest audience possible.

How is this bad?

@MsJubilee They used the wrong terminology. If they said timed exclusives there would be nothing wrong. There is multiple forms of real terms for exclusives, and base exclusive means forever on one platform/Company

@Morrow
Also Dr Luigi, Nintendo Land, Devil's Third, Game & Wario, Paper Mario Colour Splash, Pikmin 3, Star Fox Zero, Star Fox Guard, Wii Party U, and Wonderful 101.

@Woosh193

Please tell me who is doing that in this chat and how?

@SBandy There isn't, based on how they speak of it. I just think Grasshopper should never make exclusives, until they are stable and on their feet.
They are too small of a company to make Exclusives, so it was bad on their part to announce it as such anyway.
It also wasn't fair to the audience to make it think it was either.
Like I said, I only bought it on Switch because it was announced as an exclusive.
Otherwise I would have waited to buy it on Steam during a sale, because I wasn't super interested in it anyways.
Lesson learned though. I'm not trusting small companies anymore when they say exclusive.

@Morrow

So if it was announced for Steam you would have waited and bought it but only when it was on sale.

And you wonder why game devs need to put their games on multuple systems.

@shaneoh Nintendo Land was awesome. Way more than the switch's 'version' of it. Some of those were the worst in the series, and also not my cup of tea.

@SBandy I never liked Isometric views in gaming. I like first person and third person views. If it was third person like the previous enteries, it would have been way more awesome, to me.

@Morrow

You have missed the entire point of my comment.

By the way, proof you bought the game on Switch?

@Morrow
And that's fine, but the Wii U still possesses them as exclusives. Not to mention the best version of many of the multiplatform games

@SBandy I'm sorry I have my taste in games and don't want to spend money on stuff I'm not big into?
Also, sure. If you can figure out how to put pictures into the comment, because idk how. There isn't any picture button on here.

@Morrow Timed exclusives are fairly common, but at the same time this also helps him get the funding for NMH3

@Morrow

This is about a third party game dev surviving an ever more competitve market and if that means putting their games on all the available platforms so be it. Only a complete muppet would have a problem with this.

@AlternateButtons "I bet they'd be okay with porting Mario Odyssey to PS4" - wait, are such bets still accepted after I openly said I would? I doubt there's big money to be won there now. 😆

You and @Morrow are acting like fans here, so if such "defenses" "make you sick", then you have an idea what it feels like from my perspective. Buy consoles for exclusives to your hearts' content but get the memo that the only games realistically expected to stay exclusives "forrreverrrr"(c) are games officially produced or financed by a platform owner. Nothing else is set in stone, but when companies outright say "only on this console", that's usually what they mean - cases like TSA and Octopath are just examples of plans changing over time, and no publisher, unless bound by some contract, is legally obliged to stick to outdated strategies. This is how Switch itself is getting games like Disgaea 5, Final Fantasy XII and Cuphead, and this is the only ground Switch users have besides our inclination to expect and/or entitled nerve to demand games like Persona 5. And it's increasingly counterproductive to try and lobby/defend console exclusivity on the audience side in the day and age where only one of the three console industry mammoths makes portable console hardware anymore. Not entirely unlike protesting against audiobooks (which, incidentally, I have zero interest in - but acknowledge that some people just don't have time/conditions to consume the original form efficiently).

On a side note to @Morrow - images should work via IMG tag, but I keep forgetting if these comments process square or angle brackets. 😅

@SBandy And I already agreed with you on that part. I just think the way they handled it was poorly, and that's what I'm annoyed about.

@reali-tglitch Yes, they are. Problem is they never told us it was timed exclusive. They only used the word exclusive.

@Morrow unless its funded by nintendo like with bayonetta 2,bayonetta 3,astral chain,and MUA3 then the other consoles wont see these anytime soon thats how it works.

@nhSnork You are very right on that statement. No company without contract is bound to keep their word. However, it is respectful to keep your word. I care about companies that respect their player base and dislike companies that don't.
I agree that all companies have to survive, but there was better ways for them to handle it.

Also, I have no idea how to image tag LOL. How tf do you do that? XD

@Morrow

That is a much more reasonable reaction than tossing your Switch out the window!

@RiasGremory If it's funded like those games you mentioned, those are second party games, and need to stay exclusives to Nintendo no matter what. Much like Fire Emblem. They don't own Intelligent Systems, just have a contract they keep on buying to keep their games exclusive to them.

@AlternateButtons

You- "Are you really that stupid?"

Also you - "Chill out. If you're going to argue, don't attack people personally. That's childish. Grow up."

Practice what you preach there bud.

@SBandy I was mainly being over dramatic for comedic purposes on making a bad joke. If I was going to get ride of it, I would just sell it. Damn man, that's waste of money to just throw something out the window, lol.
I also said I would only do that if we lost Nintendo first and Second party IPs Like Xenoblade, Zelda, Fire Emblem, Splatoon, Astral Chain, Daemon x Machina, exc. Now if those games went to anything else other than Nintendo? Oh yeah. I would sell switch in a heart beat.

@AlternateButtons can you still go and play them Wii U games?

Yes you can, so WTF are you crying about. Upset that some of these games are available on switch and 3DS.

Get the violins out.

@Morrow

I would argue it wasn't that clear you meant only first and second party in your first post but we have reached some kind of accord so I will say good discussion and I hope have a good one!

@Morrow the "word" in question is plans which consumers mistake for promises - hence much of the misunderstanding drama. Besides, player base "respect" is not something every company cares for in equal measure. Unsurprisingly so in the world where much of any player base is haunted by potential fanship or crippled by factual one and where so-called "goodwill capital" is ultimately one of the sorest myths imaginable.

And like I said, I think I've managed images through IMG tag before. Try Untitled around the image url, without spaces.

EDIT: yeah, looks like that's how you do it - the broken "untitled image" depicted now just read "IMG and /IMG tags" (including square brackets around the IMG parts) and the blog even removes spaces by itself. 😆

@SBandy Same to you. Sorry, I can be bad at wording things at times, that can lead to confusion. It's something I have been continuing to work on.

@AlternateButtons
Considering Morrow and I have listed most of the major first and third party exclusives already, that's some freaky hand you've got there

@SBandy care to explain to me why you don't agree, or are we just going to throw insults like grade-schoolers?

@kobashi100 And yet, people are upset, so your point is invalid.

@nhSnork That's why I only buy from companies that I trust. I take chances on companies only if I heard nothing super negative about them. Netherrealm? Never buying from them again. They treated their employees like garbage. I don't want to support people like that.

@Morrow that is a fair point. I don't think it was intended to be timed, but my guess is he wants to maximize profits to make sure he doesn't have any big loss on it.

It's like with Dead Space Extraction on Wii. I absolutely loved that game and was bummed when it went to PS3.

@Kalmaro

All good. Myself and Morrow had a good discussion.

@SBandy Let's chill on the insult then. Don't have time for that.

@nhSnork That sounds like a lot of work, lol. I would do it if I just had to press one button, but doing all that, no thanks.
If you don't believe me that's fine, but I'm not willing to go through all those hoops just to make a minor point that isn't really valid anymore.

@Morrow

No one is perfect mate. I am a bit of a hot head at times (and many other issues) haha.

We love games, thats what matters!

I don't care about games going multi-plat, that's how the switch gets stuff in a lot of cases.

My beef is with devs that SAY they will be only on one system, then switch later. If that's what happened with this game then I'd be annoyed. That shows a lack of honesty.

@Kalmaro

To be fair I didn't insult you.

@reali-tglitch If that really is the reason, I guess I can forgive them. However, if they planned this from the beginning, It's not something I can forgive. The difficult thing is how do we determine which is which? It's not like they are going to answer it.

@SBandy I never said you did, though it's not flattering to be told you're joining forces with an idiot.

Not upset or anything, I just like having discussions and when insults get tossed around then dialog tends to fall apart.

@SBandy True that. Here's to hoping both Sony and Nintendo forever keep their first and second party IPs.

@Kalmaro

I accept I can be a hothead and quick to judgement but I am also open to having a discussion. Morrow and I had a decent one.

I will say your line "Exclusivity and portability are what's keeping the Switch alive right now." is a bit ridculous because of course it is important like it is to any other console. Exclusives and unique features are whay keeps alive all consoles.

@Morrow

Agree 100%

@SBandy I would say it's less important for Sony and Microsoft as they share the vast majority of games across systems.

Nintendo is the odd man out since they depend first and foremost on exclusives to pull people in with eventual 3rd part support trickling in after to keep people there or entice them with portability.

There aren't that many AAA exclusives to Sony and Microsoft that are that good imo.

Have fun! Hope you have fun!

@Kalmaro

With Microsoft I agree, apart from Killer Instinct (love it) their first party line up for Xbox One has been an absolute disgrace this gen.

Sony I disagree, I only played Last of Us on PS4 and it was honestly astoundingly good. God of War I only bought this year and I am on my third playthrough and it is so far my game of this year. They have had other great exclusives worthy of the system.

My view is first and second party exclusives best remain exclusive but third party games should be open to all. But I am also realistic and don't expect the likes of CoD etc to show up on Switch for technical reasons and if others do they bought the wrong console.

Not a big deal to me. Some select exclusivity makes no sense to me. Octopath Traveler and SMT5 don't exactly make that much sense to me being exclusives. Same with Persona 5. And same with Travis Strikes Again.

Something like Etrian Odyssey has a much bigger case considering that actually depends on the 3DS hardware.

Regardless Travis Strikes Again is a good return to form for Suda 51 that hints for good things to come with a NMH3. If selling more copies means a better NMH3, I'll take it.

Besides, indies naturally sell best on Switch, so it's not like most of the money isn't being made on Nintendo.

@SBandy Dad of War is awesome and I will punch anyone who says otherwise.

Last of us was cool too!

Still, that's only two. Not to nitpick but surely you see what I mean? Sony has plenty of good games, but if we're talking exclusives that almost everyone will admit are great... there just aren't that many. Which is a shame. They don't even have Crash as an exclusive anymore, which is kinda odd but no complaints here. Portable Crash Bandicoot is legit.

@Kalmaro

Honestly just a couple of exclusive games is all I need to buy a console and between Last of Us, Uncharted 4 and God of War the PS4 has met its targets.

Ironically enough Street Fighter V is another massive major factor but I consider it in the same bracket as Bayonetta 2 and 3 in that Sony have funded it so is a second party title pretty much.

This is good news! The more people that pick this up the more likely we’re gonna get NMH3!

@AlternateButtons

So you admit you were also in the wrong?

Lots of worked up people about this. Just play where you want.

I’m one of those people who wouldn’t mind if third party exclusives didn’t exist, while also not being against third party exclusives (I feel like I’m the only person on the internet that isn’t vocally against by the existence of Epic Store exclusives). It’s not like many people were buying a Switch for this anyway, and I’m happy for all the people on PS4 and PC who will now have the chance to play this game.

I don't mind it not being exclusive. There is more games I want on Switch too, so its not wrong that one of "our own" games go multiplat either.

@AlternateButtons Thanks for helping me out. I think you were the first person who understood what I was trying to say. I wasn't upset at anyone here, but I appreciate it all the same.

Thank god some of you guys aren't Xbox fanboys, when Microsoft literally ported every Xbox One exclusive to Windows/PC (and in the case of Cuphead, even to the Switch).

@westman98 That's actually the reason I never bought an Xbox One. I loved the 360, but One is trash. No exclusives? No thank you. I'll play them on PC if I want one of them.

@AlternateButtons Hey, it happens. We can only strive to do better each coming day, after failing in our present one.

@Morrow
I just don't understand how a game being on another platform negatively affects your enjoyment of the exact same game on the platform you own.

Sounds awfully elitist to me - basically "Only I can enjoy it, and if someone else can, then I can't"

@westman98 No, that's not the reason. When you own a game available only on that platform, it makes you feel special. It gives a face to that otherwise baseless box. With Nintendo, you look at the system and see hope for a new cool Zelda, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade---With Sony you look at the system and see hope for a new Ratchet and Clank, God of War, Uncharted, exc.

Without exclusives, we all mine as well be on PC. PC is stronger than any system, and always will be. Because consoles will always be a few years behind (because of development time).
PC also has controller support for virtually any controller. Switch Pro, Xbox One, Ps4, Ps3, 360, and even have their own controller.
You could even connect your desktop or laptop to your tv, while using your contoller, to give the simulation of having a console.
To me, exclusives are the only reason to own a console. Sure, I love the Switch's portability aspect, but that's not the main reason I own it. That's just a bonus. I own it because Nintendo made it, and I can be assured it will have their IPs I enjoy.

@Morrow : If you're upset because you would like to have known beforehand as you would have preferred to have the game on PC or PS4 instead, then, sure, I understand where you are coming from, but if you merely resent the fact that the game is being released on other platforms, then that is just ridiculous. Yes, platforms need exclusives to set themselves apart, but we, as consumers, should also not have to buy numerous platforms just to enjoy this hobby of ours.

The Switch is my primary gaming device of choice, and I have also bought a gaming laptop recently, which I will be using for VR and third-party games. In most situations, I would prefer to have AAA third-party titles on Switch, but in situations where publishers will be cheaping out on the cartridge, I will opt for the PC version instead. At least I can back-up Steam games to Blu-ray discs, which I cannot do with Switch "software updates".

@SBandy I think Bayo is pretty much with Nintendo now, if only because Nintendo threw them a bone when no one else would after the first game.

Glad to see it still going though.

@Silly_G Yes, because I only bought it to support switch exclusives. I wasnt really that interested in it because of the Isometric view. If I knew it was coming to Steam, I would have waited until it hit a Steam sale, then bought it. Because outside of exclusive, it's not a game I would want to spend much money on.

Why spend money on something you think is meh, you might ask? If exclusives sell well, more exclusives can be made. Of course the system has to sell well too, but the exclusives selling well also helps.

You also contradicted yourself. You said you agree consoles should have exclusives, but we shouldn't need multiple platforms to enjoy our hobby. If Switch and Ps4 has different exclusives we like, then we need both systems to enjoy them.
I personally don't mind that. I honestly wouldn't be as interested in gaming, if there wasn't any exclusives

@BensonUii I'm responding to people I feel are worth responding to, that's all. I don't like ignoring people.
Yeah, I get that. That's why it bothers me that we can't know which it is. Did they plan this, or was it a last minute thing due to lack of sales?

@HexagonSun I play systems for exclusives, but I dont buy only exclusives. I play a bunch of third party games on my switch

Also, FF series has stopped being exclusive for a long time.

If they are smart they will sell it on other hardware as well. This is business and no fan service exclusive Switch games. Remember N has their own exclusive titles. We don't need that from 3rd party. With that said

Good! More people gets to play it!

continues playing FFXII on Switch

In my day it was quite simple: if the game title has "64" on the end of it, it's an exclusive!

@Morrow "Don't they see how mature and well constructed my arguments are? BETTER POST IN ALL CAPS JUST TO BE SURE."

Great, more people can enjoy a very mediocre game. Didnt Suda basically try guilt shaming his own fanbase?

It's a shame. It was quite a unique decent exclusive, nothing amazing but a good game. But I don't think it sold very well. If I remember the week it released it just made it in to the top 40. Then was never seen again in the bestselling charts....
With porting being relatively simple due to UE4 it makes sense to do this to recoup the costs back... I doubt it's been profitable so far with the sales on Switch.

I've been saying it for years, NEVER TRUST SUDA51 the man is a carney.

@Morrow are you oke? 90% of the Switch library contains of xbx, ps4 or pc ports. Does having game x on platform y making the game worse?!

Grow up.

I picked this up on preorder after finishing NMH 1 & 2 really not too long ago. I didn't start it until recently because I am moving and know I won't have a TV for a while, so I figured it'd be an excellent opportunity to use the portability of my Switch. I did start it on my TV before my movers came, but now it is all handheld/tabletop for a while, minus possibly hooking it up to hotel TVs (kept the cradle). Ironically, I haven't finished the first level because I've been busy with packing and cleaning, but I have enjoyed what I played so far. Makes me want NMH3, though.

Glad more people will be able to enjoy it, but I think since Wii is a couple generations back and was kind of a hidden gem, a lot of people won't be turned onto it since they wouldn't know the main game. I think it'd be real neat if they made a current gen port/remake for the same platforms that have TSA.

@AlternateButtons
I mean, if we're talking about games that "matter," then for me the only current gen console worth possessing, to me, is the Xbox One. But that's only for Rare Replay, which I'm sure will be making its way to PC eventually.

I can’t believe I stayed up late yesterday for this announcement....

Being massively into NMH and it's sequel, I must say TSA really disappointed me. Once I got up to the giant face that chases you, that was it.

I really hope Suda moves with porting the originals to Switch. This just wasn't really fun at all.

hey if this helps us get a NMH3 then i'm OK with it

I think that Suda 51"s best work was the Wii exclusive NMH 1 & 2; perhaps because they felt like they were designed around the systems features. A lot of his multiplatform game releases since then have felt a bit more generic, so while I'm not too bothered about TSB going multiplatform I would like NMH3 to be a Switch exclusive and use all of the consoles features too.

@MsJubilee I love you. Exactly what I wanted to say. Why do people get so frustrated if a game is also on another piece of plastic? Who cares?

Hmmm, now that they will release TSA on PS4 and PC, it wouldn't seem odd anymore, if NMH 3 would come to said platforms but NOT to Switch. 🤔 Let's wait and see.

Gotta get cash for NMH3

Congrats to PS4 gamers, you get one of the worst nonsense Switch games out there...

Are there any third-party exclusives left?

@AlternateButtons weren't you the same person having a temper tantrum because Persona 5 wasn't coming to Switch? So now you have no problem buying a PS4 for it then?

This thread is pretty funny.

I play consoles because playing a PC in a lazy boy is difficult and I just want to start a game and play it. Console wars are over guys. Nintendo makes a great handheld and Sony makes a great console. Buy both of them.

This announcement is super dis-respectful towards Nintendo
They published it and gave it a lot of publicity

But whatever I guess, not the best game anyway

Where's the Xbox One version?

I don't think the game is very good, but more platforms hopefully means more sales and an increased likelihood of seeing No More Heroes 3.

@Jack_Goetz
Dont think it ever hit the 360,just saying. After further research I found that it did. Just not in the states, not that I could find anyways. So sorry, but I didn't know.

Platform exclusive should be system sellers. Even Suda51 would admit that this game was far from a system seller.

Roll on NMH3....

Guess it flopped on Switch. Lol! Game is terrible anyway.

I care more about Grasshopper making money than exclusives so this is great.

I was there! It was an epic panel, Suda is such a genuine human being, so nice to talk to. Wish more Switch owners bought this - but now more people get to enjoy it so it's a good thing. He also said he'd ask about porting the first 2 to switch when he got back home.

This complaining about losing exclusives is ridiculous. The question I’d be wondering about is why no XB1 version.

@AlternateButtons So you just ignore anyone who points out your hypocrisy? Lol.

Atlus didnt lead anyone on. And this is part of the problem. People saw Joker in Smash and proclaimed that there would be a Persona 5 port. It's not Atlus's fault. People these days are driven by and believe every rumor that comes out. I don't know what it is about the Switch, but everything is an unsubstantiated rumor these days.

While I'm disappointed the Switch loses another high profile 3rd party exclusive, if the reason is due to the game underperforming on Switch, then unless there's some legal/contractual problem (which doesn't seem to be an issue in this case), it's probably fair game for them to release it elsewhere.
That said, I'm not too sure how many sales they were expecting with that price point. $45 seemed a bit much for what it was, and I can't imagine many getting it unless they were already sold, but I could be wrong.

@Grumblevolcano - From what I understand, the main problem with losing exclusives, besides losing a selling point for the console, is that it reflects poorly on the success of the console to other 3rd party developers. If games like TSA and even Octopath can't make it on Switch, that sends a message to other developers that the Switch isn't really much of a money maker for them, and they might be better off taking their games elsewhere.

@Morrow "The only guess I can get is if it was going be a switch exclusive, but they couldn't keep it as such for the lack of sales. However, if that was the case, they could have said that too"

So basically, you want them to be honest and publicly state why the game is coming to other platforms, after they said it would be a Switch exclusive?

Be patient then. Maybe they will explain all in time; I don't think they've even been interviewed about this yet, and if they have, then blame the journalist for not doing their job.

@FullMetalWesker you do know that Octopath done very well on switch right. Going multi platform is not because it didnt hit targets.

S-E just see an opportunity to make more money by giving more gamers access. Its good business sense. Why would you leave money on the table just because a small minority are gonna moan about it not longer being an exclusive.

@graysoncharles - To be fair, if the only people buying the game are those who would only buy it on principle, then it's probably not gonna sell well regardless. It's unlikely to live or die depending on whether a few hundred Nintendo console owners decide to splash out or not.
Also, as I've said before, I was open to buying the game, but the price was just a bit too much for something that wasn't on my 'must-buy' list (not that my buying it would've helped much in any event, but still).

@kobashi100 - From what I've seen it did really well in it's first month, but has slowed down significantly since (only selling another half a million at most between August and January). I'm guessing that's why SE decided to then port the game to other systems.

Nintendo doesn't fund and support a third party exclusive, third party games get ported.

Sony doesn't fund and support a third party exclusive, third party games stay exclusive.

Am I missing something, or is there some weird practice to stay hard on Playstation because... Reasons? Is there a contractual obligation like Rayman ran into when being ported over during the Wii U? Cause this practice seems predominantly on Nintendo software.

Feels like Kickstarter "Switch version" stretch goals level of practice.

@graysoncharles wat are you talking about project octopath sold really well on the switch man.

I highly doubt any exclusive third party titles sell Switches- portability and Nintendo’s own IPs do that. Sony and MS might need exclusive third parties, but Nintendo nope. They’ve always just done their own thing.

I’m not going to fault a company for needing to get more platforms for a failing game. I’d rather see a smaller company survive then die. I hope this means NMH3 is more likely.

@Paraka it could also be that age old thought process “Third Parties don’t sell on Nintendo” .

@graysoncharles my bad didnt see his comment so i thought you were stating that.

@Paraka the Rayman situation on Wii U was because the Wii U was bombing hard.

@Morrow E n t i t l e d
(best read as if the simpsons intro)

@Paraka Not exactly true. They've been losing a ton of exclusives to PC the past two years, but the impact isn't as large for them because their console is still the leader in mainstream appeal and userbase size and most of those titles aren't really the bread and butter of the platform anyways.
I would say it's about even since both have userbases more geared towards other games and both geared towards consoles as opposed to PC.

@mousieone Exactly.

PS4 is for the people who know that they will get the latest 3rd party games for their investment. "Exclusives" are just icing on the cake.

No idea what the problem is if publishers want to subsidize a Switch game by taping onto that user base.

Same way an Indie developer can tap into the Switch to subsidize the PS4 or Xbox version.

@BRAINFOX - I don't think a lot of the console market considers PC being a huge contender for their exclusives. Yeah, PC is a huge monster that outpaces consoles, but because of that so many games get buried in the waves of releases. Many indies do suffer that, but obviously mileage would vary. But there is often a lot of news on it I cannot say it's uncommon.

@kobashi100 - There was more to it than that too, though (but yeah that was a major concern for Ubi). One of them was some talk that if you port to PS brand you had to release simultaneously.

@FullMetalWesker Octopath only sold as well as.it did because of the drought last year.

I love RPGs but I wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't for hype. The grind for the super bosses and final boss made me stop when Torna came out.

@Trajan last year wasnt hardly a drought maybe the first half but the second half of 2018 we got alot of games including smash.

@RiasGremory aside from Octopath, Torna, Pokemon, and Smash, last year was barren.

Nintendo offset this by having all hype from E3 forward be about Smash.

You don't remember?

@Trajan there were plenty of other games that came out for switch in in the second half of 2018 especially rpg ones man.

@Trajan Umm no. And your logic doesn’t work, here I’ll show you-

Square-Enix released Octopath Traveler and Lost Sphere in 2018. Octopath Traveler sold, Lost Sphere not so much. But, by your logic, both should have sold because it was a dry year.

Octopath Traveler plays heavy on the retro fans need. Games like Final Fantasy XV are more modern, but there a ton of fans (especially Japanese) that crave that old FF VI feel and look. SE didn’t even think it would sell in the west so Nintendo published proving retro fans are everywhere

The comments crack me up. I personally don’t even care but for all those that are like “I’m glad more people get to enjoy it” or the like would definitely be singing a different tune if we were talking about Zelda or Mario or even Pokémon. Exclusives are what makes one console worth buying over another console. Well the Switch has that portability thing going for it as well but still....

I came for the meltdowns and was not disappointed.

I didn't play the game the first time and don't plan to now. I don't see the problem in ports.

@electrolite77 yes lots of shovelware.

Run a search on drought under the parameters of last year between March and October. Many people were talking about it.

@yuwarite he doesn't want to accept that business decisions can change. If they do change according to him publishers are not allowed to change the exclusive decisions.

Imagine a game company being at the mercy of a very small minority Everytime they release a game as an exclusive

@electrolite77 - Quite a few still. Anything Marvelous has made rarely gets ports, so most of them stay that way, exclusive. A lot of Falcom projects are the same. So don't know where you're getting the information, but it exists.

Also, not sure why you're so eager to fling names at me when I am calling out the practice that seems much more common on Nintendo platforms when compared to others. Feels very belittling of such a market.

I mean, you cannot deny the business knows their "exclusive" on Switch gets far more response than if it were to be on Playstation. We cannot deny that, cause we got our own comment sections that prove this. We champion it, we're all excited, everything. Then months later we see, "the Switch hit comes to X console!" One wouldn't remiss if they were to feel somewhat part of a marketing angle. No one likes to feel used, probably why so many get salty when this happens. Like a developer version of port begging.

Don't get me wrong, though. It's business, I get it. But it is not childish, as you claimed it, to call out this practice being very predatory at some level.

@whanvee No problem.

@Morrow if Nintendo aren't paying for exclusivity then there's no reason not to take the game to other platforms.

@graysoncharles - I do think open port begging is far more shameless. Just the metaphor is that it is similar in practice (like, "buy our exclusive game so we can afford the port, but be excited.") And still questionable.

Now, not to say they should remain exclusive cause for some reason I feel somehow entitled. They shouldn't be if the business desires so. However, the atmosphere has a stark difference when it comes to "platform specific exclusives." Sony tends to somehow retain exclusives Sony isn't directly involved, like Persona or the afformentioned Marvelous and Falcom. But when it comes to Nintendo, it's noticeably different.

@graysoncharles - Grey areas will always be questionable, though. Simply because it does border those lines of the common practice and the general transparency. And with records of many shady dealings from the usual suspects, and even indie publishers like Badland Games, it's hard to take a blind trust with what companies are doing. As you said, though, it is not their expectations to explain their business decisions. However, it would definitely be in their best interest to practice it a bit more so things like this never feel so... betraying for a lack of a better word. Feels in poor taste to me, since I don't many PS exclusives get a port of some kind.

@electrolite77 what’s it matter if we are talking generally about more people getting to experience “insert any game here” wether it be first party or third?

@graysoncharles it was just an example so no need to get your underwear twisted. I’m just saying exclusives are good. They are what draws people to a particular console. Everyone has an opinion though. No need to get into a tiff over something as silly as video games.

this comment section is... something else that's for sure.

I for one don't care about these Third Parties being exclusives. If i want to buy it on a different platform, than let me. Just because a third party game is exclusive on that specific platform, doesn't necessarily mean they will stay that way forever, UNLESS Nintendo bought the rights to do so. not once did i see anyone complaining when Super Bomberman R, Let it Die, Sonic Lost World jump to other platforms. (all three of which were exclusives.) so, what makes this so different with Octopath and Travis Strikes Again?

@Aozz101x For an audience that really didn't seem to care about this side game, is sure upset like little kids when it gets ported to other systems, hehe. Like they lost a kidney or something.

Bottom line: Big deal. Even NMH 1 went to PS3. Deal with it.

Indeed, the age of third party exclusives has ended. Even first party exclusives seem to be a thing of the past (at least at MS) and more and more "remasters" of prev. generation games. (Not just Wii U Switch ports, but also on XBOX ONE and PS4 having multiple XBOX 360 and PS3 games been released)

The times have changed.

@Morrow "The minute Switch loses all of its exclusives, is the minute I toss it out the window." so when Nintendo stops making games and just becomes like Sony relying on third parties to make games for their hardware?

@Morrow Then buy it for Switch. Unless you prefer playing the game with better graphics and frame rate, exclusivity doesn't stop it from existing on Switch.

@electrolite77 you sure do seem to be going out of your way to defend your opinions and attack others for theirs looking at the number of posts you have on this one topic alone. It’s cute and sad at the same time. “it’s 2019 and hopefully we’ve moved past such childishness”....

@electrolite77 I think you probably need to read a little harder and read a bit more into context then we can have a mature conversation. Till then you remain cute little buddy and have great Monday.... 😆

Another exclusive down the drain. Not that it was a massive game, but still...

Well, first stop the "internet fight" to give my post.

Here we have just 2 ideas that collide:
-Exclusivities: importance in a console for its attraction to have more public and so, increase the likelihood of having more games in that console and the risk of losing exclusivity means that the console is like any other and can lose public and new games against other more ""striking"" options.
-Multiconsole: everyone could play that game in any console they want and it helps the developer to have more income and profits for more projects.

The truth, the first point may be right, but at the end of the day is a matter of subjectivity, everyone chooses the console that one wants and play the games that one wants.
So, better continue with your discussion...