Nintendo's American website has seemingly revealed the next batch of games coming to the Switch Online NES service later this month.
These "upcoming titles" include Donkey Kong Jr., VS. Excitebike and Clu Clu Land. More information about each of these games is expected to be shared when Nintendo makes an official announcement. For now, here's a screenshot from the site:
Have you been playing the NES library on Switch lately? Are you looking forward to any of these games? Tell us below.
Lame. Give us SNES games
Reading about NES game offerings, feels like Nintendo is making fun of us.
Scraping the barrel now and we know we're not getting Castlevania and Contra so just get on with the SNES games. Frankly they should already be looking towards N64 and beyond but the way Nintendo drag these things out we'll likely never see them. It's a good job they started threatening ROM sites because clearly they want to make their content available to the paying public 🤔
Move on to the SNES games already!
Here comes the repeating cycle of "we want SNES games" comments
So let me get this straight
Arcade Archives releases the NES Excitebike while the NES Online app has VS Exctiebike...
...when they usually do it the other way around.
@RyanSilberman what's the difference between the two?
@carlos82 Konami is releasing collections of Castlevania and Contra, that's why we don't have those on the app. It's the same case with the Megaman games.
Nope rather do anything but.
@Enigminator Well, if we're being honest, you can't really blame them, especially if you look at the competition, who's already up to their necks in last gen titles on their backward compatibility/virtual console lists, so getting SNES or N64 titles would most certainly be the very least that Nintendo could do.
At this rate, we'd still be stuck with NES only titles in 2022...
It'll never cease to amaze me how entitled people are.
A: You're paying to play Nintendo games online. The NES games are extras.
B: You paid 300 bucks to play some of these games on an SNES classic... you sound like cry babies complaining that you're getting them for less than a penny a day as a service as an added bonus to online play.
C: The SNES stuff was just a datamine, like a lot of things, it may or may not come into fruition and there is a good chance you'll have to pay extra for it. Understand that if it isn't a first party nintendo game and EVEN in some cases if it is a first party nintendo game, someone has to get money for the game's re-release a lot of times. So if its a konami game, konami gets a cut. For SNES games, that cut is going to be bigger.
D: The same people b******* about this online service are the one's begging for a virtual console where you can pay up to ONE FOURTH THE PRICE of a FULL YEAR of nintendo online service for just one of these games... jesus you people, how do you even tie your shoes in the morning?
E: You're literally paying 20 bucks a year for an online service, or you can pay twice that and get online service for you and 7 of your friends. Your complains, your crying, your whining is so petty it literally gives me a headache everytime I read it.
F: But no native voice chat-- use discord like %99 of civilized society. My god.
Booo! Nintendo, stop giving us NES games and broken VR updates to Zelda! Just get us some SNES titles
Hooray, three more 30 year old games that hold the player’s attention for thirty seconds each!
I personally would love to see more subscriber bonuses like Tetris 99. That game alone blows all those endlessly recycled NES titles out of the water.
I can't complain at all about the online service myself, 20 bucks a year for what is now a really good line up of classic NES games seems like a steal to me. I would easily pay 30 to 40 if they were to add SNES games!
Well, clu clu land 4 me.
The NES library is a thing of beauty. These games, however, not so much. Probably the worst update yet.
I’m still waiting for Wrecking Crew. Never played that one
Not to sound stupid but didn't we already got Vs. Excitebike?
Now come you know you are not allowed to go against the anti Nintendo online brigade on here.
Honestly I wish the "Snes plz" crowd would shut up already. I mean, we get it. You want SNES games. If you want them THAT badly there are literally dozens of low cost ways to play SNES games. Please do that instead of constantly whining/begging.
Despite having said that, I agree this is one weak offering. Like seriously. This is arguably the lowest point for NSO, so I can totally get why people are starting to really get annoyed with it. I was one of the few people who thought it was a pretty cool service but even I'm starting to roll my eyes at it. The NES/Famicom has a fantastic library of games such as Holy Diver, Castlevania, Mega Man, Little Samson, Bucky O'hare, etc and the NSO doesn't even scratch the surface.
I mean.... It's just whatever at this point. At least we got Punch Out.
@Edu23XWiiU I know, that's basically what I was saying
@AugustusOxy what's wrong with wanting Nintendo to release their much loved library on the Switch? Sega are doing so as is Konami, whilst we have plenty of Neo Geo games. All we are wanting is for Nintendo to release these games in one form or another for this console, they themselves have talked about their legacy content being available through the online subscription and we know the Switch is capable of Wii games as its Chinese counterpart offers those very games right now. Nobody is expecting them for free, just that at some point they are available and in a reasonable time.
Oh and as for voice chat, I can use it perfectly fine on my Playstation or Xbox through the controller without discord and the Switch is perfectly capable of it too and it should be available through the console. Their is nothing wrong with constructive criticism
So let me get this straight.
*All Nintendo games as of now use P2P
*They are drip feeding us vc games. Maybe by 2030 we will get something other than NES
*Voice Chat isn't even an option for people who don't use Discord.
What an I paying $20 for? They can't even fix p2p on smash Bros ultimate.
Heck third partys had to implement voice chat. This is comeing from a Nintendo fan before you say "Hurrr Durrr Nintendo h8r" I've owned all the versions of the 3ds and more handhelds than I can count. IT IS A VAILD CRITICISM! This is not an okey way to run an online service you pay money for.
Yes. I am entitled. If things don’t change, I won’t renew my subscription. I work hard to enjoy my hobbies and my money. I’ve already given my complaints to Nintendo through the proper channels about Japan getting more games than us and how the service is lacking. Go ahead and give me all the thumbs down. I’m the devil, play my level.
Edit: Most retail games that I can enjoy online, I’m usually enjoying by myself or locally these days. The main games I’m budgeting to get this year like Bloodstained, Mario Maker 2, and Link’s Awakening can all be greatly enjoyed offline.
Tried the NES service the other day. Kept me entertained for roughly 5 minutes.
I grew up with Gameboy and SNES, so these NES titles are not exciting at all for me. The only game from that era I can play for hours is Battle City with my wife together. But we do that on a 20€ Famicon clone from ebay
Why can’t this eight month old baby walk and talk yet?? It’s preposterous, I say!!
I've been playing these pretty hard lately. I basically have just been playing them in order and enjoying it. Right now I am on Wario's Woods and it is actually a pretty good puzzle game. Looking forward to the next few games on the list as well, Blaster Master, Zelda II, Kirby, Punch Out, and more.
Not as excited about the May releases but I will still play them to completion. Right now I am loving NES Online.
@AlohaPizzaJack A baby that's been in the womb for an extra 18 months though.
Wait a minute. This VS Excitebike most certainly isn't the arcade one, already released by Hamster. So... Is it the Famicom Disk System title of the same name? Are we getting FDS games?
Have Online from the Amazon Prime free 12 months promotion. Not even tried to test this out. By the looks of it, not happening any time soon.
And some people on PushSquare complaining because they got $19 Overcooked for free - they should check out this nonsense.
Am I the only person who does not care at all about having SNES, N64, GameCube, or Gameboy games on the Switch? Like, why would I buy a brand new system to play the same old games I've been playing my whole life? I would way rather get indie titles like Cuphead, Cadence of Hyrule, and Wargroove than a bunch of retro games I already own. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I just don't get why virtual console on switch is SO important to everyone.
Im actually starting a big physical NES collection right now. And i gotta say, DkOldies has THE BEST WEBSITE EVER LIKE JESUS CHRIST. If you want any game from the Wii or Older, or accessories, or parts, or fan made stuff, this is PERFECT for high quality on a budget
This comment section is filled with snobs who don't understand that NES games can be fun if you don't spend 5 minutes on them and just complain. Its free for gods sake.
@AugustusOxy Apparently giving criticism and asking more for an objectively inferior online service is being "entitled".
Grow up, people are just asking more worth for their service like native voice chat, messaging system, no friend codes etc. ya know, basic features the competition has.
Newsflash, people aren't going to be satisfied being fed the same NES games for years, especially when the previous Nintendo consoles and handhelds had virtual consoles, which offered alot more than the current NSO, making the online service even worse than the previous ones which was free. That's really pathetic.
It's people like you that are the reason this keeps happening. It no one speaks out, gives criticism or feedback, then obviously iintendo is going to keep giving us an underwhelming online service.
If you're satisfied with an inferior service, good for you, just accept the fact that maybe, just maybe people who were expecting a little more won't be.
@607jf You really REALLY wouldn't want a dedicated server in Smash Bros. It will double any and all lag you get.
@iLikeUrAttitude In what UNIVERSE was Virtual Console FREE?!!
During the Wii, Wii U AND 3DS I heard the usual suspects* complaining about paying 5-10 euro for a VC game. NS Online is 20 euro per year, same price as 2 SNES games on the Wii U.
NS Online gives you:
1. Online multiplayer in paid games.
2. Tetris 99
3. NES Online
4. A handy smartphone app for voice chat.
*) The same people that are complaining now.
The way I see it is that this comment section is filled with people who feel it's ok to call others snobs or entitled or whatever, if their opinion happens to be different than theirs. And these games are not free, they are part of a subscription that offers absolutely nothing but a pay wall for bare bones online gaming that used to be free. It would give people less reasons to complain if the competition were pretty much doing the same, but guess what - they offer a lot more!
@subpopz many people appreciate the NES Classics!
@sanderev I meant the online gaming being free. The virtual console games were of your choice to buy which had a bigger selection of games that weren't just NES ones.
Meanwhile with NSO its just underwhelming add one that offers a lesser selection.
@SnesSwitch Wow really immature, cursing at someone who displays a different opinion than yours.
@sanderev I never said it needed server, they need to optimize the p2p on ultimate at least.
@Moroboshi876 Yes it is and yes we are getting Famicom Disk System games as we got one last month already (Super Mario Bros. The Lost Levels).
@Hikingguy whoops my bad. Fixed.
Lametendo Switch Online
@607jf If it's $20/month then they seriously need to do what you had said but if it's $20/year I could see why they won't bother.
@iLikeUrAttitude On the Wii U, 3DS and Wii Nintendo made money off of selling VC and other eShop games. On the Wii this was successful. On the 3DS it's "meh" at best, and on the Wii U it was drastic since that system hardly ever sold.
So while developing the Switch Nintendo made a business decision to ask money for online multiplayer. They even gave us 1,5 years to play for free.
Now releasing a lot of VC games actually cost money, like licenses and they have to pay the rating boards to "rate" these old games. So they though, what about making classic games free. But also make it an incentive to keep players subscribed to the service. This is why they are drip feeding these games.
This is also why I believe SNES games will come. And I also think SNES games won't cost more. I only don't know when they'll come, I hope with the next E3 they will announce SNES games and next september they will be released.
Again what am I paying for? P2P? An obsolete phone app that Nintendo dosen't update anymore? A vc service full of old games I've played a billion times before?
@607jf They recently updated the phone app to add support for Smash. And they will update it again for Mario Maker 2.
@carlos82 Anyway, they'll release SNES games with time, I'm personally enjoying the NES app, it serves very well to kill time, and I'm playing those games with my kid, so that's FINE.
Ohhhh sorry they updated the voce chat I'll never use your right.
@mazzel Really? Not Super Mario Bros 1-2-3, any of the Mega Man games, Tetris, the Zelda games, Kirby's Adventure, etc?
@Edu23XWiiU don't get me wrong I still enjoy the NES app and will continue to do so years down the line, its just that Nintendo are frustratingly slow at times in releasing content even if they have it up and running
What's funny is when they move on to SNES games, we'll see the same comments then as well, from the same exact people whining in here that they're releasing NES games instead of SNES games.
For those desperate for SNES games, why didn't you just buy a SNES Classic Edition? Ignoring the well established homebrew community that makes it so easy to expand the game list, 75% of what will be rolled out here eventually for SNES content is already there anyways out of the box.
It even includes a pair of excellent SNES style controllers. Equivalent wireless versions for the Switch if the NES experience tells us anything will cost you at Nintendo.com pretty much exactly what an entire SNES Classic Edition system was priced at until its recent discontinuance.
Clu Clu Land on NES Remix was one of my least favorites.
Yeah...from the looks of it, it seems like SNES games are going to come in September in time for this service's 1 year anniversary.
"...people are just asking more worth for their service like native voice chat, messaging system, no friend codes etc. ya know, basic features the competition has"
This!!... and it is not just here - The Chat App has 2.5 Starts on iPhone.
People just asking for a service that meets minimum 2019 standards.
@geox30 I'm reffering to those who don't give the games themselves a chance, and ignore it because it's old. I personally fins the online service good (shocking) and don't understand why they call these games bad in response to the other flaws that have nothing to do with the games themselves. Sorry if I seemed too harsh with my way of wording it
Past SMB2, SMB3, Blaster Master, and the Ninja Gaiden trilogy, I don't really care about NES games (especially since Mega Man has collections and Castlevania and Contra are getting collections too...). I really do wish we could get a SNES equivalent of this app. I would LOVE being able to play Super Metroid on my Switch.
I read that as "Donkey Kong Jr. VS Excitebike" at first and got way more excited than I should have...
I'll pass. My mom's been racking up a couple hundred hours on this thing with just Dr. Mario alone though.
I'd love to see them add SNES games as much as anyone else, but if Nintendo insists on putting out NES titles there are plenty of top-notch games they could be releasing in addition to certain, more ahem historic offerings, including hidden gems & imports. Off the top of my head, I'd say Radia Senki, Mysterious Castle Murasame, and Ufouria deserve a new audience.
Zzzzzzzzzzz 😴 💤
The NES games are ok but it would be nice to get a mix of SNES, N64, GB, GBA, DS etc too.
The rate at which these are being released doubt we’ll even get off NES games in the life of the switch...
Faxanadu, Captain Skyhawk and Double Dragon 3 please!!!!!!
Oh and Wizards and Warriors 3 and Solstice, so much goodness.
God, who cares?
Glad I've never jumped on the online bandwagon. The majority of NES games are just minigames that you boot up once and never play again. These are not a compelling "benefit" at all, Nintendo.
A: The core online service is terrible. Smash doesn't work. Mario Tennis doesn't work. Splatoon is actually less reliable than before the service was introduced.
B: Not everyone reading your comment paid for a SNES classic, and it's not $300 in any case.
C: A lot of people would pay extra for a better service, and for the specific SNES games they want, which brings us to your next point.
D: This is an argument against Nintendo's current online policy, not for. It is idiotic not to do the Virtual Console and give consumers a choice in games, as the amount most gamers would spend on games would cover the cost of online maintenance many times over.
E: People are paying $20 for a bad online service, and don't have the choice to pay more for better. That's the essential problem all over, lack of choice. The figures for online subscription were much lower than Nintendo expected and want. It's not about entitlement, it's about a company persuading people that their service is worth it. If some want to go on the internet and suggest that it isn't, that's entirely their prerogative.
F) Well, exactly. That Discord is a far more viable option shows how pathetic Nintendo's offering is. Starting to think that you're attempting parody.
I have been playing Sega 50 Genesis Classics and I do not even play NES online now. Honestly there are only a few games on there worth playing.
@TheStar-Lord reasons we’d want VC on the Switch:
The point of the VC isn’t to slow down or replace new games — I’d be devastated if stuff like Cuphead or Wargroove weren’t being made today, but with the VC content already made, it seems like it’d be so easy to port these games to the Switch.
Well, that's a waste of a month for me.
Hopefully Star Tropics II, Double Dragon II, and Jackal show up on there eventually.
Now I'm not like the people who just whine and cry about the nes library, but...DK jr? Clu clu land? VS excite bike? Really?
I will try to make my view on the Switch Online clear.
It is cheap, but that doesn't mean it has value, when you are paying for thin air.
The service has a different value for someone who likes the NES games, as opposed to someone who doesn't.
SNES games are not the priority here, but compared to the current situation, they are much preferable.
There may be workarounds to the service's shortcomings, but if I am going to get into any kind of trouble, what am I paying for anyway?
People don't complain for the sake of it, but they feel being treated unfairly.
We are all Nintendo fans here, but that doesn't mean we have to like everything they do.
I would much rather pay this amount of money for no free games at all, if the service was solid. I would pay even more, if I could choose from a plethora of games, or the games on offer would be closer to my liking.
I played Clu Clu Land on this PoS knock off console I used to own. It was...the controls were very unintuitive and not always responsive. Its not a good game, or even a mediocre game.
@bolt05 I'd rather just have those on eshop.
It's absurd that Swiitch games aren't included in this service yet.
I have the snes mini so it's not such a big deal.i know people keep going on and I get that.let's just wait and see what that do with the online service.
My only complaint is that two of these three games are available in superior form via the Arcade Archives.
@Burning_Spear And the third was ANNOUNCED for that series ages ago but never materialized...I actually want Vs Clu-Clu Land, too.
@datamonkey Not only that but I feel that if they made a new successor to the Switch, they'll restart with all the NES stuff again and slowly do the release all over.
rolls eyes in Ryan Reynolds
@retro_player_22 Probably the FDS version of Vs. Excitebike, previously only released to the west on Wii U VC.
Interestingly, the online subscription should allow players to enjoy Nintendo's most important project in terms of online gaming, Super Smash Bros, which just doesn't work well online. Is it too much to ask? Yes, it's cheap. Yes, NES online comes as a bonus. I get that. What I don't get is that Smash online is unreliable, just bad. Customers deserve more
@PBandSmelly The NES games are free? I paid for a year long subscription, how did you get it free?
Vs. Excitebike FDS is based off the arcade tracks, but has in game music, a 2 player Vs. mode, and the ability to edit tracks for the Vs. mode.
Looking forward to some multiplayer Excitebike.
@RyanSilberman Arcade Archives used the AC Vs. Excitebike, but labelled it as "Excitebike" because the title screen just says Excitebike. Vs. Excitebike was later ported to the FDS with extra features. The Famicom Switch Online service already has a few FDS games and the NES service has SMB2J aka Lost Levels, which is a FDS game.
@brianvgplayer That makes sense.
But it's still confusing why they did it like that
Lame, they going to make it very hard to want to renew the subscription once it ends from my free twitch prime pick up lol.
I understand wanting SNES, N64 and GameCube games. I want them too. I just don't expect them to be included in a service that only costs $20 a year. Hopefully, we'll get them in some form.
Being a huge NES fan, I'm loving what's on offer. I would have paid more for my favorites on a Virtual Console service. I did buy the over priced NES controllers, but I just can't play NES games with any other controller. Right now, my favorite way to play NES games is in tabletop mode with an NES controller.
100th comment pride
“It'll never cease to amaze me how entitled people are.”
You’re using entitled wrong.
“A: You're paying to play Nintendo games online. The NES games are extras.”
No. It’s a whole package.
“B: You paid 300 bucks to play some of these games on an SNES classic”
Who did? Mine was £60
“ you sound like cry babies”
“you're getting them for less than a penny a day as a service as an added bonus to online play.”
“The same people b******* about this online service are the one's begging for a virtual console where you can pay up to ONE FOURTH THE PRICE of a FULL YEAR of nintendo online service for just one of these games”
Yes they are consumers who want choice in how to consume. This shouldn’t be difficult to understand
“Jesus you people, how do you even tie your shoes in the morning?”
“Your complains, your crying, your whining is so petty it literally gives me a headache everytime I read it.”
Seriously, the irony
“But no native voice chat-- use discord like %99 of civilized society. My god.”
I like Nintendo and the Switch but the Online service is dreadful. It is advertised as offering Online gaming, voice chat and NES games and it isn’t good at any of them things.
@Krisi Yes, none of that! Tetris is my all-time Gameboy favorite and I fell in Love with Mario in Super Mario Land. But I enjoyed the old ones in Mario All Stars on the SNES, especially Super Mario Bros. 3
Same goea for Zelda, as my first Zelda experience was ALttP and therefore I only have nostalgic feelings for that one... Never played Megaman much, though.
We're actually getting Vs Excitebike without having to use the Famicom app? I'm genuinely surprised, although I guess they did sell it to us on Wii U VC, so it would be harder to justify excluding it now.
Ok, now SNES please!!!
@AugustusOxy I kind of have to agree with a lot of that I mean this is the first time Nintendo has ever been into the online subscription business so at least they are giving us a few retro games here and there included. And its pretty rad to be able to play some of those games online with friends. I for one think its worth it just for online play for all the Switch games and Tetris 99. There will be more on the way down the road for subscribers...
@AugustusOxy With you until the voice chat part. Since Fortnite shows that the technology is there expecting people to use an external phone app for it is just backwards. And the fact that a free app is much better than what they ask money for is just insulting to the customer.
Granted I pay for the NES games myself, since I don't have any of the other systems. And I would really like some SNES goodies on the go, on a machine that's built for multiplayer, unlike DS family.
@Agramonte lmao the standards for Nintendo gamers are so much lower
I don’t want to play with power! Give me super power! Cause Genesis mini does what Nintendont!
@Lizuka they want you to buy the nes controllers for the switch
Once again people are forgetting that love it or hate it they are paying
for an online service that allows you to play games online and offers cloud saves,the NES games are included free with the package,and nobody at Nintendo is saying that other classic NES systems will not be added at a later date.
This mainly boils down to the fact that the internet posting minorities want Nintendo to make a virtual console service for the Switch,even though many complained about the price of individual titles,complained they were having to buy the same games over and over each generation,complained that when Nintendo did offer discounts for people that had bought the games before on another system that it was not enough,now the same people would welcome another virtual console service for the Switch with open arms.
Once again they will claim that nobody likes the online service even though Nintendo will have a lot of happy subscribers,as they will never understand that the Switch has a much broader demographic than core hobby gamers who spend a lot of time playing games online and off,some users will just play games as a diversion with their families and friends and not want to interact with people online.
Of course a lot of the dislike for Nintendo's online service stems from the fact it's no longer free,and rather than thank Nintendo for all the years they did not have to pay anything at all,they would rather moan and complain when Nintendo finally realize they can't offer the service for nothing forever...now this in my book is entitlement,some may disagree but they are wrong.
We have to realize that not everybody views things form our own narrow point of view,the Switch is a success because it does appeal to customers outside of the core hobby gamer,Unfortunately on this and other gaming forums these are the only views we are getting,and they are being passed off as the views of the wider market,which of course they are not.
I enjoyed Zelda 1 way more than I expected. But at this point, I don't care about any more NES games that could be added but EarthBound Beginnings.
I never had a Wii U. Is it too much to ask that one Mother game becomes legally playable on the Switch?
My issue is there is simply not enough people on online forums to make much of a difference to Nintendo,as I very much doubt we will make up more than a very small proportion of actual Switch owners,the same would be said for people defending the service on online forums.
The service already has 8 million plus subscribers,which for a console that is not in the same demographic as Sony or Microsoft's it's pretty good imo,as a lot if the installed base may have little interest going online no matter how good or bad the service is.
As for entitlement I can't see your issue with that,if Nintendo had offered this service for free I am pretty sure we would not be getting the same level of complaints on internet forums and YouTube channels..admittedly YouTube videos only watched by 10k people or so.
Think I might try playing some NES games now there's a lot to choose from. We do get Tetris 99 too with the subscription so things are improving.
I'd still prefer if we could just buy retro games like on the Wii and Wii U and have nice little folders to keep them in.
Please don't get this lot started on folders and themes.
Lame. Still no SNES stuff. It'd make a lot more sense to have one game for each retro system each month. This just feels like a slow trickle of stuff that's kind of cool to try for a moment, but nobody is going to really sink their switch time into now.
My guess is they will reveal that SNES games will be added at E3, with the first batch of games releasing closer to christmas.
@AugustusOxy lol and there is always somebody defending this horrible online service from a multi billion dollar enterprise.
@carlos82 there's nothing wrong with wanting Nintendo to do something, but a lot of wrong with acting like they're OBLIGED to do it when they clearly aren't. Does it ever cross people's minds that Nintendo may simply not WANT some things we want, for a variety of potential reasons including "just because", that they may be aware of our money they potentially miss out on, that they may well SURVIVE without this money? It's basically akin to "the right to refuse service".
Yes, it does cross people's minds. And that's where entitled fans inside them revolt. We're hooked enough on experiences and whims that we can't accept either alternative between accepting the service/product as is (if it ticks enough of our boxes otherwise) and giving it up altogether (if it doesn't). Not using the feature where we find inferiority or face a paid service that doesn't give us enough bang for our buck, selling the game because it doesn't present much interest without said feature, selling the console and moving on to greener pastures in the industry until Nintendo lives up to our demands again - each of these sane and natural market customer practices is blasphemy to us as fans because we're not consumers - we're LORDS. We pass a praise and a bank card for payment once, the other party automatically signs with their blood to serve us for years to come, stacking exponentially with every praise and payment we make.
Even actual constructive advice (implying it's constructive advice, not just biased requirements made with no knowledge of or regard to all the factors and plans the company may be dealing with at a given moment) is something to GIVE, not SPAM. But like we just discussed above, we continue to spam it and claim that "they're not listening to fans" because the very notion of listening and NOT COMPLYING is utterly unacceptable to us. Never mind that, were we in Nintendo's shoes ourselves, we would quite likely be doing all the same things.
@AugustusOxy couldn’t agree more. I paid ten quid as I went in with some friends. I never actually play online but my little un does. I figured ten quid a year and I can play some old games now and again. It’s like £1 a month! I have most the games I wanted on carts still anyway but for the money we pay, it is a little silly to complain.
@Whalehome who doesn’t want clutter. 🤔
@Galenmereth that's my line. It's not very convincing to defend "the right to complain" (let alone advocate the mythical "should" part) when complaints grow in number and intensity to become easily discernible as attempted imposition instead. As is par for the course with fans, we eagerly cling to our rights while abusing them in the way that eloquently defies the opposite side's right we're quoting. And a begrudging verbal "okay, fine, they HAVE the right" doesn't work quite smoothly with the practice-implied "...but how dare they use it!"
You wanna complain, mail the support or use something like those fields companies tend to ask you to fill upon unsubscribing from some of their stuff online. And let them deal with it to whatever end they will. Constantly ranting about and outspokenly incriminating a peeve all over the public view, especially in written online format of conscious long-term exposure is not complaining - it's called campaigning. And campaigns don't exist to respect, acknowledge or preserve whatever they're up against.
And that fanminded entitled lobbying (regardless of its success, the lack of which is always on the receiving side's immunity, not on the fans' sanity or mercy) is simply obscene at the end of the day. Deal with it... as long as you don't have the power and self-control to deal with your fanship instead.
I am done with the Nintendo Online Service. This went too far beyond being ridiculous
@johnvboy Yeah, good point
If Nintendo cannot give us SNES games, at least give us some NES games for free, for people who didn't pay for the Online Subscription.
SNES pls 8-bit games are not aging that well.
we've played this 100000x give us something new please or snes era games. i'm sure you can since you stopped mini snes.
@AugustusOxy this is what I always think of when I read complaints about this service. Why would anyone beg to be able to purchase these games a la carte when it’s TWENTY DOLLARS A YEAR to play as much as you want?!?!?
Especially since,as you mentioned,you’re really paying to be able to play Splatoon online,and again,it’s a tiny fraction of what you’d pay on either of the other two platforms
@Galenmereth why did you cancel? It wasn’t worth $1.67 a month? That seems impossible,especially considering how much fun I’m having with Smash online.
@darthstuey it’s half the price of a coffee!
I just don’t feel nostalgia for NES games at the moment. I still have room for 16bit games in my life, but 8bit can take a long break.
"More information about each of these games is expected to be shared..."
These games released so long ago that all the info anyone could want to know about them is already on the Internet. Lol!
I do like the SP versions of titles. Zelda 2 is actually possible to progress in when you begin with your health, magic and attack strength maxed out.
The saddest thing is that I love my switch more than any other console I have ever owned, but I'm thinking of getting a second hand Wii U for the Virtual Console. Why won't Nintendo take my money themselves and bring VC to Switch!
I don't quite understand the complaints either.
I also want to see more systems being implemented like SNES and maybe N64, Gameboy etc. But I have no doubts that it will happen eventually.
In the meantime I have like 20 other devices on which I can play all those systems anytime I want so it's not like Nintendo is preventing me from doing so. I have a modded SNES Classic, a SNES with a flash cart..
I'm just happy that we get something in the first place.
Lol hysterically at that dudes rant up top about us being entitled. What a goof.
It's 2019 for god sakes. The cost of entry is irrelevant. Even if it was free it would still be inadequate.
Barebones peer to peer networking that results in unplayable lag is not acceptable. The rest of the industry went through all the growing pains already. We shouldn't have to suffer through it again.
Nintendo can take their barely working NES emulator and stick it. I want to hear about improvements to the games I bought to play online not cheap 8 bit asset flips.
They knew darn well their online wasn't worth the asking price so yes...im afraid my subscription is in fact, paying for drip fed 8bit titles.
And I will criticize it as much as I want because it's laughably anti consumer to ask people in 2019 to pay money to access peer to peer network functionality in games they already paid for.
The only way a company can charge you to play online is if they provide the dedicated servers running the actual games. Otherwise it's a fake cash grab. There's no monetary overhead with peer to peer networking, it should be free.
The ability for multiple devices to connect to one another isn't worth money. It's the ability for all those devices to connect to a central server hosting the game that's worth the money.
The sooner the average Nintendo consumer gets educated, the better. Nothing about their online offering is of any tangible real world value.
I want SNES games, but not for the same reasons everyone else does. If I want to play them, I can do that right now on the ones I have. I want them on Switch because they will have netplay and also the fact the datamine had them briefly. I just want to know why Nintendo has been waiting around so long with them.
N64 games would be amazing, especially if they have netplay as well. The Wii U N64 emulator can already do amazing things, so a Switch one would be messed around with for so many months. I wouldn't even care if they were separated from the service and made available for individual purchase. Just as long as they retain netplay.
That's the best incentive toward why I even played the NES games to begin with. SMB3 online with my buddy was very fun and I don't regret playing it that way, especially the comical gestures you can do during the game. The menus being accessible at all times is also great, as well as them being able to watch you navigate them. I expect the SNES and N64 emulators to have the same functionality then, since the Wii U pretty much had the same interface across the board with its emulators, PC Engine aside.
Though, I hope they have control options as well. I hate that you can't remap the inputs on the NES emulator. It makes the GameCube controller unusable due to the position of the buttons.
INB4 "Sony and Microsoft have better online services"
In some ways, yes, but you also pay more, which makes it allt he more frustrating when something goes wrong. Particularly love that your PS4 can be ruined by a message you get from a random stranger, reaaaaaaaaaaaal secure online services right there.
Its twenty bucks a year and you get to play your nintendo games online and you get free NES games that you'd complain about not having if you didn't get them. Get over yourselves.
I don't play online and the NES games don't interest me, but I can't take the risk of losing my Zelda saves so I have to pay for the online service.
NES games are a curiosity for most people at best, I grew up with one and it was great but very few of the games standup nowadays barring stellar titles like Mario 3. But even then it looks poor on the NES, the SNES all-stars version is more colourful and would be a much better offering.
I'd be intrigued to know what the playtime stats are like, I'd guess pretty low.
If you feel the service is lacking don't pay for it,of course you have the right to complain about the online service but I fail to see what posting on a forums is going to about it,I would e-mail Nintendo about it to let them know your feelings.
I can't see why you are paying for a service you find lacking?,if i were you I would not give Nintendo a penny for their online service until it offered everything you were entitled to...er I mean wanted.
@johnvboy It matters not that the people satisfied with the online may be the majority, that doesn't make the service service immune to criticism.
Also the feedback is making a difference since Nintendo themselves is planning ways to boost the appeal of the service ever since the increase of 1 month plans.
And once again criticism is not entitlement. Asking for basic features the competition offers isn't entitlement.
Of course there would be less complaints if the service was free, it's not worth that much in it's current state, but there would still be criticism.
You keep acting like the only complaint for the NSO is because it's not free anymore when it's obviously due to the extreme lack of features compared to the other competition. Waiting a year and getting a barebones service would of course leave disappointment.
As I said before people can complain as much as they want,weather or not it will make any difference on a online forum is another matter,and again just because another rival service offers a feature does not mean Nintendo have to offer it.
Nintendo will be planning to boost the appeal of the service because they want to attract more subscribers not to appease the current ones.
I know these are just a bonus on top of getting to play Switch titles online, but I'd still like to see the games selection expand beyond the NES considering that there's no VC service anymore.
Already got the Arcade version of DK jr and VS Excitebike
don't really need the NES ones
also Clu Clu Land... it's like a bad version of Pac-man
@AugustusOxy You say that like it's some sort of a great bargain. These servers don't cost twenty bucks a head to run for a year, nor are they even fast enough to have people play regular games like Smash online. As of right now most Nintendo players are paying for something that used to be free and it's worse than it's been before. Nintendo is right to be looking for ways to make it a better value for the consumer.
Just because Microsoft and then Sony started charging for online doesn't mean a person is entitled to pick up a game on the shelf that says "online play" and then be peeved when they find out that it's twenty bucks a year and barely works.
At last, they run out of good or representative first party NES games!
I cant think of many more games to be added next month.... So you know what it means!
I enjoy playing many of the existing nes games that have been added in the past. Especially the zeldas and Mario’s and punch out. This month is not looking to good though.
While I acknowledge there are more important things to complain about in life, there is nothing wrong in offering up constructive criticism. Especially about a service that can and should be better at this point. And while I'm not suggesting NSO needs to be exactly PSN or Xbox Live, there are some common sense things you would think Nintendo would have had in place before launching the service.
The tough part is that this isn't like it's in a vacuum or doesn't exist in a larger context. Before Sept 18, we had known the NSO was planned since before the Switch was launched. And chances are was on the docket well before we knew about it. So it's fair to question just what was Nintendo actually planning and doing in all that time where this service doesn't seem to be a bit more robust? What's taking so long for some of the other perks (Switch discounts for example) to show up?
I say this as someone who did subscribe for a year and did give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt about the service in the beginning. Again, I think it's fair to ask these questions. I'm usually fine with Nintendo and their timetable when it comes to their software. It's the other stuff like this (and My Nintendo for that matter) where it gives off the impression that there doesn't seem to be a clear road map, but just a tad bit more transparency wouldn't kill anyone and can go a long way.
As far as what consoles should be offered or quickly introduced on the surface, I can't really complain about the NES provided for us to play. I will say I hope eventually, we have access to more of their classic consoles
@carlos82 They won't release everything at the same time, they need to keep a good pace in releases.
@rxchrisg Depends who you are I guess. I only have fun playing Smash in person with friends. Same with Mario Kart. I recently turned off my autorenew and wont be resubscribing as I'm burned out of Splatoon.
@AugustusOxy A. yes
B. An SNES Class is was $80, not $300.
C. The way Reggie talked about discontinuing the SNES classic led people to believe they were coming. Not that I care since I have a SNES classic.
D. No real argument, but some people want to "own" those digital licenses. Same people who paid for NES ROMs on Wii and Wii U.
E. The complaints are they are now charging for the same service that was free and not really givong you anything for it. Sony and Microsoft have servers. And they give you current gen games. For 25-40 more which is worth it for most people.
F. Using voice chat on Xbox, PS, or Steam is so easy and streamlined I don't know why anyone would bother with discord.
A question for those who say we are paying $20 a year to play switch games online and the nes games are a bonus. Which games? Splatoon 2 (personally I'm tired of) mario tennis (it's laggy and you don't need the monthly tournaments to unlock the players) arms (it's never on sale and I refuse to buy it full price) smash (again it's laggy). As a result I use my service to play nes games and once my year is over I will gladly cancel my service.
I'd just like to see some NES rpgs, like Mother, Final Fantasy, Dragon Warrior, or Ultima or preferrably something more obscure.
@PBandSmelly I agree with you.
i still enjoy some nes games and having not to pay $5 for each one unlike the wii or wii u is a plus for me.
@AugustusOxy Sony and Microsoft have vastly superior online services with basic functions like being able to talk to your friends and invite them to play games all on the console, whilst both offer substantial discounts for those who sign up as well as monthly games. Regardless of price Nintendo's offering is bare bones and poor value for money and all I'm paying for is to play Mario Kart 8 online which I was able to do for 4 YEARS for free
Nintendo are not trying to offer the same service as Sony and Microsoft,both those companies triple AAA games are tied to online play,you also have to consider both these companies do not see any issue with the inevitable problems with voice chat etc.
Nintendo are and will always be a family orientated company that will protect it's younger users from online abuse,and as you said before the offerings from both Sony and Microsoft cost much more,added to the fact that mot of the games themselves push you down the route of paid DLC.
If Nintendo were charging the same price for their online service I would agree with every word you said,but they are not,and it's not like Nintendo have lied about their service stating it was something it was not,and at $20 a year it's still good value imho.
People wanting to play SNES games on their Switch means they're entitled? Okay mate....
@johnvboy being family orientated doesn't prevent you from having voice chat and nor does the cost, I'm not expecting monthly games or discounts, I just want to play Mario Kart or other games with my friends without jumping through hoops on a mobile app. The most played online game will probably be Fortnite anyway which does have in game chat and this is now available to all third party developers, so where is the protection in that scenario?
As I said the price doesn't bother me one way or another and I don't see it as an argument against having features that have been common in home consoles for about 10 years. Particularly when so many playing the Switch online do have access to voice chat anyway.
I can't see the good value here. I don't like NES games, I can't use voice chat natively, I can't party chat with my friends, I can't join a online game they are playing directly or invite them to one, the lag in almost all games is terrible. I am paying royalties to Nintendo just to access online features.
And by your logic, I am part of a brigade, a lot and shouldn't comment on a Nintendo forum about Nintendo games or services? Please.
I can't even message my nephew on the service. Btw I'm 40 and have very little interest in the nes games. My 13 year old nephew sure as he'll has no interest. Our interest is playing together. We can't message each other and this idea that we can chat through discord or the app is crazy. The boy doesn't even have a cell phone yet and my blackberry doesn't support the app.
Ehhh. Why add three super shallow games at once? How about Faxanadu? Dragon Warrior? Battle of Olympus? The Guardian Legend? There are so many great games left...
It's kinda weird that everyone thought donkey kong as the first make of Mario.
I wish that I could play these games with my pro controller but the d-pad is AWFUL!
You can comment and complain on here as much as you want,just as I can disagree with you and others,my point is you would be far better of complaining or giving negative feedback directly to Nintendo.
Of course you can disagree, it's only you're being sarcastic at times towards others, me including, and its not appreciated when you are making it personal.
I have never intended to make any of my comments personal,I will admit from time to time I may make light of peoples complaints,but I have only ever made a counter argument to this and other issues.
@Sherlock I'm guessing Excitebike originally didn't have multiplayer
@subpopz all these games sell like hotcakes still.
@geox30 I have none of the issues you claim to have.
Good, I'm happy for you then.
What In the world did I witness a fight...
I do genuinely love calling you entitled kiddos out and looking at the dozens of replies I get from people who somehow think that they should be given the entire SNES library for paying 20 bucks a year. Come off it.
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