Random: Fans Ask Nintendo To Revive Super Mario RPG's Geno And Mallow In Online Petition

I hope they know they can't really affect the upcoming characters anymore.

This is getting seriously old.

Wish they did an re-make of Mario RPG, was a great game, but has not aged that well.

I dont know much about Geno at all, but I do find his overall design very good. This is what I actually want Smash to be about, funny mascots no matter how popular they are in games to fight eachother. This is the reason I find half of the roster boring and rather have "weird" characters in the roster such as Waluigi, Geno, Dr Eggman, Crash, Shantae, Banjo and so on, just because they look like fun fighters.

Petitions? Really?

Shouldn't it be Square Enix who owns Geno and Mallow and not Nintendo for Goal 1 and 2?
as for Goal 3, anything is possible.

As stingy as Square Enix is, This would never happen anyways.

@ElioBloodmoon It does suck. I was annoyed (possible smash spoilers?)..

...at how little Square-Enix content was in Smash. Barely any spirits and like three songs? Every other series both first and third party has numerous spirits and songs. Don't even get why Cloud is in there, he's being treated pretty half-assed.

Rant over - But yeah this series is way too overlooked by Square and Nintendo. It's a clear money maker, yet alas.

Super Mario RPG was a great game, these two were great characters... but it baffles me just how much people stick to them, Geno in particular. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing them make a return, but I doubt this petition will really change much. I'd be surprised if they would be able to make a change with it.

I really can't understand the fuss over Geno. Played Super Mario RPG for the first time last year expecting big things from him, and he was just such an 'eh' character. He really didn't have that much of a backstory, and the game didn't exactly flesh him out much, either.

Granted I don't have the rose tinted glasses, but Geno getting parts as a Mii costume was plenty of representation for such an obscure character.

The likes of Persona 5's Joker appearing as DLC and representing an entire series with no prior representation in Smash is a much smarter move.

some of these geno fans need to stop not everyone has even heard of this character and i dont see nintendo waste one of the dlc spots for this guy.

Sometimes I wish people would just let this game stay in the past. It's not coming back. I don't really get the love for Geno and Mallow either considering the game hardly does anything with them as far as character development goes.

This is probably my favorite video game of all time. The characters, the humor, the art style, the pacing, the hidden secrets, everything is brilliant about it. I hope it comes back.

I understand European gamers were left out, but this game ia the reason I could never get into either Paper Mario or the Mario and Luigi saga, those games are great on their own right, but they kept reminding me about what could've been.

Like any change.org petition, it will achieve nothing.

Geno’s already in Smash... as a Spirit.

But, don’t worry everyone, Square Enix will make a Geno spin-off game. It’ll be out in 10 years, but it’ll be great.

@XenoShaun I getcha. That bugs me too.
Heck, It still bugs me that Cloud's voice acting is still not dubbed in Smash.

ESPECIALLY since Marth & Roy finally got English VA's as of the recent years.

Mallow and Geno were great as playable character in the original Super Mario RPG but I don't see them having any significant to return. Maybe a cameo would be alright but to have both back in future installments of a Mario RPG, unless they could make the story canon to the original I don't see this happening.

@XenoShaun world of light was even worse for squanix. Aside from unlocking cloud there where zero instances where you fought cloud or fought on his stage, and there where zero FF spirits in WOL. I 100%ed WOL and was really dissapointed by that, every other fighter had atleast 2 spirit battles at minimum. (Probably more since there are almost 650 spirit battles in WOL.)

Considering how little Square has contributed to Smash over the past gens I wouldn't bet on Geno even popping up in any game soon (aside from a little cameo here and there like Mii costumes)

can we please just stop??
this begging of Nintendo to do represent such-and-such character is so entitled and bratty.
online petitions don't work anyway!

I love Mario RPG as much as the next guy, but Geno doesn’t deserve a place in Smash. The Mario series has had a 30+ year history and Geno was a side character in ONE GAME, 22 YEARS AGO. There are plenty of characters with a far more enduring legacy that should see inclusion before he does.

It's a little late to be requesting characters, since Nintendo has already decided who will be added as DLC. Just pray, folks. That's all you can do now.

Can I be in the next Smash please?

I’m an entitled plonker, am I doing this right?
There I was thinking petitions were only for important things.

Fans can ask whatever they want and Nintendo can answer their demand whatever they want.

Since M&L: BIS, I've been curious to know if its Dark Star is the same entity as the enemy summon of the same name in SMRPG.

I like how people automatically focus on the Smash request, despite it being third in a list of three requests. The first one - a remake or true sequel to Super Mario RPG - is quite sensible and many people would really like it.

If Nintendo doesn't even listen to fans wanting games like Mother 3 localized after all these years where there is actual profit... This petition won't change anything...

Not to mention Square Enix having a part to play in this. Clearly they don't want to fully commit to Nintendo and their relationship considering how small the FF impact is within Smash, the two default Cloud Spirits, the stage and the two accompanying tracks.... Not to mention Nintendo has had to publish Square Games in Europe... You'd think they'd be more willing to include more content

I don't really understand how fans creating this request in a professional, respectful manner about their favorite game/characters being revived is anywhere near "entitled".

It's not going to do anything, I'm sure, but fans have the right to hold this opinion (it's not "entitled", seriously) and express it.

It’s not hurting anyone, so I don’t k ow why anyone cares that people are asking for these characters. If you’re tired of seeing the ask. Don’t click or read about it!

Geno is as irrelevant as Waluigi

@flapjack-ashley all three requests are nonsense.
it's a licensed property, not a fan-owned property.
therefore, the license holders decide what to do with the characters, not the fans.

@Harmonie because it's a bunch of fans with too much time on their hands going "we know what to do with your intellectual property better than you do."
and it's atrocious behavior.

But like Geno's character is a spirit inhabiting a toy, which fulfilled it's purpose and left. Mallow is back home as a prince doing prince stuff. Anyways, I'm saying I don't think they should be in a sequel other than as a cameo. Let sleeping dogs lie.

This is one of my all-time favorite games. That being said, I have no interest in these characters being in Smash or other properties.

Sometimes it is best to let the past be and just appreciate these one-off classics for their place in history. We have enough endless reboot, remakes, and rehash in this and other industries.

@spideyroxas
Yeah I was waiting for Mother 3 on Wii-U since we got the other two games, and they added GBA games on the VC. I don't know what the actual sales figures were but I know that Earthbound and Earthbound Origins both stayed pretty high on the lists of most-downloaded games for Wii-U eshop, so I think you are right that Nintendo is missing out on nice profit from Mother 3. Maybe we'll still see it eventually. I 'd love to give it a try. I enjoyed the first two games. A collection of all 3 games on Switch would be a dream.

Funny that everyone targets the third point, if they ever remake SMRPG they’d put Geno in smash as an advertisement. The main goal is to hopefully get a remake of SMRPG. I get you might not like him, but calling the fans bratty is literally childish behavior.

@FlightOfTheNav you know what's really childish? spending (clearly excessive) free time throwing a hissy fit, demanding a company caters to your niche desires.

@CharlieSmile you know what’s really childish? Spending clearly excessive free time getting mad at people hoping for something. I feel you don’t like what they’re doing, just ignore em.

The only people who actually fondly remember Geno are like 30+ Nintendo fans. Anyone else younger than that, whose asking for Geno, is doing it purely because of the mid 2000's online meme, not because of any particular reverence for the character.

It worked for Majora’s Mask, right 🤓

Anyway, got a SNES Mini for myself this Christmas (before it gets discontinued) and Suoer Mario RPG has had the most gameplay.

Loving this game - and no as a European never had this when I was younger. I would be definitely interested in a remake, but I cannot see it happening.

@yuwarite SMRPG is on the SNES Mini and was on the Wii U eShop. It’s possible younger fans exist

@FlightOfTheNav haha ok lol

@SubtleGris Speak for yourself, Super Mario RPG is widely considered one of the best RPG's of all time, so yeah Geno and Mallow are well known. Only because of the falling between Nintendo and Square we never got to get a true sequal of RPG, and is why Geno and Mallow were never seen again until now. With that said, I appreciate people going as far to doing a petition, but it will most likely never happen.

It's 2019 and we haven't had anything Smash related since last year, Nintendo!

I’d personally love to see Geno playable in Smash. I’d also love a remake of Mario RPG.

I don’t see either happening.

So many people acting so offended by this petition. What the hell do you care? The funny thing is that you guys accuse the petitioners for being entitled, without realizing that it is you who are acting with entitlement. As if you were the definitive judges of what deserves or not to be remade, rebooted or put in Smash.

If you don't like this petition, because you would rather have some other character instead, then fight for it and start your own petition, but shutting down others just because your taste is different makes you an ass.

I am a huge Super Mario RPG fan, I am a 30+ Nintendo Fan. I own the original game + the Wii U Virtual console version + SNES Mini version. I think this game could be remade in a similar style to I am Setsuna and also rebooted on a similar note.

I would actually rather have Mallow on Smash than Geno, but Geno is a cool character that in spite of having a secondary role, it still managed to have a lasting impact just by being so damn cool.

You might not agree with me, and you might be a bigger fan of the Mario RPG sagas that followed this one, and that is perfectly ok. Maybe Paper Mario will be another Smash character, maybe the rest of them will be more marketing oriented, say Joker is in because Persona is coming to Switch, and maybe next we'll get Doomguy because Doom Eternal is coming, and maybe the next one will be Scorpion because of Mortal Combat. Who knows? The point is, why offend people that are rooting for their favorites?

@personauser0893 like I said in the smash thread in the forums, I’d expect it from konami but not squanix. And to my surprise konami has major representation for all their stuff, like major major, I think there is a spirit for every single castlevania and metal gear game including spin offs and obscure titles.

@Giygas_95 that sums it up pretty well. I find the game fun but nowhere near the classic everyone says it is. I would take ANY Paper Mario over Super Mario RPG.

They aren't relevant enough to be in Smash, I would be happy with Super Mario RPG going on the Online Program though.

All I'm going to say is that if Nintendo listened to petitions like this, there would be an international release of Mother 3 by now.

Nintendo does what Nintendo will do. It is very, very unlikely that they will listen to an online petition unless there are millions of letters? emails? digital signatures?. I also hope those are verified digital signatures because otherwise they are pretty much worthless as a measure since one person could be 1,000's of signatures (and the FCC recently showed us that even verified signatures aren't guaranteed).

Besides, Super Mario RPG was little more than a tech demo of emerging technologies. The game plays like Final Fantasy Mystic Quest. Unless you were part of the generation that only had that game (and few other choices) or a resident of the UK that has an unhealthy love of isometric games, your love of it is probably not that great.

This isn't even up to Nintendo soley. Despite being a Mario game,they still couldn't release a remake without Square, nor could they use Geno or Mellow in any games as Square owns those characters.

@Samsamsam 100% agreed, there's a point where it becomes [dull] to add so many sword fighters into a title that's supposed to celebrate the immense diversity and span of Nintendo's history in gaming. (The roster should positively be more droll!) Nintendo should just make a Fire Emblem fighting game to accommodate them in the style of Soul Calibur or Samurai Shodown, and opened up spots for other characters into the Smash roster.

I wonder if the reason why there's so many Fire Emblem characters is just to satisfy trends, and draw in Fire Emblem Heroes players. Additionally, Cloud is just in to promote the Final Fantasy ports, since he's only previously been on a Nintendo console in Theatrhythm.

In particular, I just can't believe that Bomberman isn't playable, when he's been on almost EVERY Nintendo console to date, sans the devices before the NES such as the Game and Watch. He was even on the Virtual Boy, for crying out loud! He has a Nintendo console attendance record on par with Mario, of which few can boast.

@CharlieSmile These are fans of a video game and characters who are politely requesting the revival of the video game and characters.

I guarantee you every single individual on this forum has opinions of what they want Nintendo to do. To act like that is entitlement is absurd. We are paying customers and Nintendo is a business. They don't have to listen to us, but we darn well can have opinions about what they do and express them.

I mean, this opinion here isn't even negative... It's just "We like this game/the characters, please bring them back". It's like no one can have opinions of any sort on Nintendo forums anymore.

I actually signed this petition despite the fact this will never happen
1: because Square is Stingy

2: also Nintendo Never listens to petitions no matter how big or small

look I don't like Geno as a character but I signed this because Being lost and forgotten is not a fate any character should suffer

and hey nostalgia sells (look at Crash) Nintendo and Square could make some money just from reselling products

Plus you got to admit asking for a character to return to the limelight is a sweet thing to ask for
sadly everyone on this forums refuse to except that people have nostalgia for characters they love

Again this will most likely not convince Nintendo and Square to bring back the blue hat wearing puppet boy
but its worth a shot to make your voice heard

@Harmonie Well, "entitled" and "entitlement" are perennial favorite terms used to self-righteously chastise others with on Nintendo Life...

@CalTonTheRobot Agreed, while these petitions may not drive decisions, publishers and developers do have a history of taking petition campaigns into consideration. A notable example of this is Operation Rainfall. In that case, Reggie said that while it wasn't a decisive factor in the release of Xenoblade outside Japan, Nintendo did take the petition campaign into consideration. Soraya Saga, the writer for Xenogears and Xenosaga, as well as for Mistwalker, also supported Operation Rainfall's actions.

So yes, publishers and developers DO pay attention to petition campaigns which gain traction. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise with their claims of "entitlement!"

@Darknyht "...your love of it is probably not that great."

The 9-year old me who bobbed their head up and down to keep timing on 100+ consecutive Super Jump hits would disagree.

@yuwarite What about Pit? Remember how he was a nearly forgotten footnote in the history of the NES and Game Boy, until he was announced for Brawl out of nowhere back in E3 2006? Almost no one knew who he was. Sudden revivals of obscure characters absolutely can happen.

@Giygas_95 Imagine if Nintendo actually held that line of thought... No Kid Icarus for 3DS, or any other major revivals. Until he was announced for Brawl back in E3 2006, Pit was a mere footnote in the NES and Game Boy libraries, with almost no lore or character development, much less any significant fan base. (Whereas A LOT more people knew Geno, and supported fan bases surrounding him.) Should he have just "stayed in the past" and not come back?

We do need a new Mario RPG, that would be amazing.

I hope they never add Malo and Jeano, just because of the petition and the precedent it would set. It's not up to fans to make the games, it's up to Squeenix and Nintendo to put out games that they want to make, the way that they want to make them. Letting fans (?) decide what games and how they're made would destroy a company like Nintendo, turning their games into cookie cutter crap, because fans don't know what they want, only going off of what they've played before. If it was all up to the fans, we'd never have anything new or interesting, just rehash after rehash forever.

@thesilverbrick What about Pit? Before he was announced for Brawl at E3 2006, wasn't he nothing more than a mere footnote in the history of the NES and Game Boy? Sure, he had a couple of his own one-offs, but until he was reinvented for Brawl and Kid Icarus 3DS, he was a nobody.

@PlywoodStick Pit (Kid Icarus) was mostly forgotten because while it was an interesting game, it was a buggy and difficult game. The music is probably the most memorable part of it.

It sold a million less on NES than Metroid (1.7 mil) and less than 1 million on Gameboy while Metroid managed 1.7 mil. which is probably why it didn't get a future game. Brawl was a celebration of Nintendo IP, so Pit was added, and I am sure the online metrics had more to due with a new Kid Icarus than anything else.

@Darknyht Well, that was 1.76 million copies of Kid Icarus for NES shipped worldwide by late 2003. Those copies didn't necessarily all sell, nor in a timely manner, during the prime of the NES years.

So... Kid Icarus was a nearly forgotten, buggy NES game, which was deemed to be unworthy of continuation after the Game Boy entry for nearly 15 years, until Pit was announced for Brawl at E3 2006... who was somehow supposed to be celebrated in lieu of other choices?

Nah, I don't buy it. Decision makers at Nintendo decided to reboot Kid Icarus, regardless of not making much of an impact in the past. Development of Uprising began before 3DS dev kits existed, using PC's and even the Wii dev kit.

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Iwata-Asks/Iwata-Asks-Kid-Icarus-Uprising/Iwata-Asks-Kid-Icarus-Uprising/8-Battle-Someone-At-Least-Once/8-Battle-Someone-At-Least-Once-207954.html

Pit was made into a playable character in Brawl to increase his popularity in preparation for a series reboot. Otherwise, there would have been no reason to change his appearance, and be made into a playable character. He could have just been in Brawl as an assist trophy, represented by his original cartoony incarnation.

I'm sorry, who and who....?

I already said my piece about further Square-Enix characters in Smash. Pick one from that list, either one could deserve a spot.

@AlexSora89 Vivi would have been an AWESOME choice! The FF Black Mages are far more iconic to the series than Cloud himself, and what better representative than Vivi? Granted, he hasn't previously been featured outside cameos in Theatrhythm, Pictlogica, etc. on Nintendo consoles, but that's virtually the same deal as with Cloud anyways.

Black Mages in general have been in FF games since the NES original. Smash could use a heavy-hitting magic wielder- there are FAR too many sword wielders! I think Cloud was only chosen due to the trendiness of FF7.

Also, Chocobo would have been a more interesting "joke character" choice than Piranha Plant... Complete with 8 of the various Chocobo breed feather colors!

Would all those goals be cool to see? Yes.

Do I find it likely that at least one of them will be fulfilled? Somewhat.

Will all of the goals be fulfilled? I won't say never, but I find it unlikely. Besides, I thought Square Enix owned Geno and Mallow?

Slow news day?

@BensonUii I would love that, but considering they relegated Lyn to assist trophy status... I wouldn't expect anything more than that for Hector, unfortunately. I wonder sometimes why they chose Ike for Brawl instead of Lyn... Ike is yet another blue-haired sword fighter; we already had one in Marth. Now Smash is littered with blue-haired sword wielders!

Lyn is still a sword wielder, but at least she uses a katana (Mani/Sol Katti) instead of a long sword or broadsword, and would have had a much quicker fighting style. As a Sacaen, Lyn also has access to bows to mix it up. (Could have potentially used Murgleis.) She could have been a Bow Lord. After all, the closest ones Smash has to archers/rangers are Link, Pit, and Samus...

@PlywoodStick I'm not a big fan of Kid Icarus, and I don't personally know how well Uprising sold. So as to if he should have come back or not, you tell me I suppose.

Your point is fair enough though, although I said what I did because there's so little chance of this happening due to time passed and jumbled legal rights that I think no amount of begging is going to get another Mario RPG or bring Geno and Mallow back. That and the fact that Nintendo clearly isn't interested. If they were I doubt they would have taken Paper Mario down the Sticker Star road.

By the way, I didn't say Nintendo should leave this in the past. I said people should because Nintendo really doesn't seem keen on bringing it back. There's a difference.

And I also want Lyn and especially Hector. We need an axe wielder, though Ike is about the closest I think we're getting to an axe wielder from Fire Emblem.

Mallow is cute similar to lot of basic Mario designs - I just never found Geno all that special looking to garner this amount of noise.

@Giygas_95 Uprising was a huge hit in Japan, with tens of thousands of copies associated with new console sales during the game's first week; by December 2012, over 316,000 copies were sold in Japan. It was not quite so popular in other regions. Nevertheless, by April 2013, Uprising had jumped up to 1.18 million copies sold worldwide and counting. So Uprising was definitely a 3DS system seller, and bringing Pit back was worth it.

Development of Uprising began before 3DS dev kits existed, using PC's and even the Wii dev kit. Pit was reinvented in his current anime-style form for Brawl in time for his announcement as a playable character at E3 2006, to increase his popularity leading up to his series reboot. Otherwise, there would have been no reason to include him as anything more than an assist trophy in his original cartoony form.

What a massive waste of time. The characters haven't been around for decades, so they are super niche. They have to know that a petition is never going to get Nintendo to do anything. Why bother?

@Giygas_95 Furthermore, Super Mario RPG actually sold over 1 million copies on the SNES in Japan, whereas it had a limited release (or none at all) elsewhere, not even cracking 1 million sales in North America. (Mainly because there weren't so many copies to be had!)

Super Mario RPG sold better than the original Kid Icarus in Japan. So if Kid Icarus deserves to be rebooted, so does Super Mario RPG. Yes, legal entanglements make it difficult to do anything other than port the original game... But I wouldn't say it's impossible. Other old IP's which had heavy legal entanglements like Day Of The Tentacle and Grim Fandango finally got remastered. Such hurdles could be overcome for Super Mario RPG, too.

@PlywoodStick You're not wrong, but I'm not disagreeing that it deserves it. Only saying that Nintendo isn't interested as far as we can tell.

Did I misread? It says 260 signatures, right? These sorts of petition ''stories'' are pointless fluff even when there are tens of thousands of signatories, when there are 260...

I'm totally behind this. I know the list of currently planned fighters is set in stone, but ya never know. I'm playing through SMRPG for the 1st time right now and I love these 2. Even if they never get in, I want them to make a comeback somehow. Also, If Moonfall and Rainfall were successful, why can't this?

@hatch What you think of as entitlement is just genuine desire to see Geno return to the mainstream properly.

Just because people want something badly isn't entitlement or a sense thereof, you're speaking nonsense.

@Giygas_95 I agree with you that Nintendo has been hesitant to bet on most traditional RPG's for their home consoles ever since the N64 era, especially outside Japan. (This includes Mother 3.) However, they have been more open to RPG's in general on portable consoles, and action RPG's since the GCN have seen steady releases. With the Switch having elements of a portable console, and international releases of titles like Octopath Traveler (the type of RPG which likely would not have been considered for international release from N64-Wii U eras), there is now a renewed acceptance of traditional RPG's.

As for Paper Mario going the Sticker Star route, if anything, that actually creates a greater opening for Super Mario RPG to return. Back in the N64/GCN entries, Paper Mario was endeared to the RPG genre enough to make Super Mario RPG seem fairly redundant. Paper Mario for N64 was even listed as "Super Mario RPG 2" for several months in Nintendo Power previews.

But now, the Paper Mario series has veered so far away from the conventions of the RPG genre that it barely qualifies as one anymore. The Paper Mario series is now utterly distinct from Super Mario RPG, making the two no longer redundant. Miyamoto is another obstacle here: he was responsible for killing the originally intended story of Sticker Star. If there were any time to start planning a Super Mario RPG reboot, right now is finally that time.

fingers crossed that this works.

When we didn't know the base roster, I could sort of understand this Geno lobbying, even if a bit misguided. He does have an interesting look, and he comes from a beloved, if obscure, game. Sakurai often likes to put in obscure retro and joke charactera into the game, so anything is possible in the base roster.

But as a $5.99 dlc character, from a short list Nintend gave to Sakurai? It's just not happening. He's way too obscure to either pull new people into Smash, or get people to buy the dlc. He's just not relevant enough, next to characters Joker.

@MushHill_Act1-1 Also, I understand people's concern about how something like this may become entitled, but in the description, they're very respectful of Nintendo and others. I don't like the assumption that when someone wants to share and support their ideas as a consumer, it always has to be in a rude or threatening way. I don't get why everyone is so upset about this...

Lol waluigi has a better chance of being playable in a main Mario game

@Bunkerneath what's wrong with it nowadays? Did the Mario and Luigi stuff do better? I felt later games dragged with the Bros attacks.

Who are these fans, and who cares about them wanting obscure characters in a game that we hear fan demands every single day? SSB is becoming one of those things I wish I never heard of because instead of just enjoying it, its fans constantly harass the whole world about it.

@PlywoodStick hmm ok..
Maybe your right maybe it could get Nintendo to listen,
but until something BIG is announced
I'm going to keep my expectations low...
Anything can happen...
But I don't want to get my hopes up..
Thanks for the inspiring speech but I'm going to keep it low for now

I'd love to see a remake of Super Mario RPG. It's a cool game but some aspects of it really haven't aged well. With some quality of life tweaks and a nice coat of HD paint, Nintendo/Square Enix could chuck out a lovely cash maker.

Goodluck to them. A sequel or remake would be great.

@hatch I think you're wrong to call a petition seeking something to happen as entitled in any way. It's not exactly a letter of demand and it's a process that is generally fundamental to any democratic process. It's simply a vote with absolutely no power. Probably the complete opposite to any form of entitlement in reality.

Entitlement would be buying smash Brothers then seeking a refund because it doesn't have the characters you want in it.

Screw Geno, I want Yoshi Commits Tax Fraud.

Honestly; To the casual observer, someone would not process what a weird, and somewhat creepy-looking wooden puppet in a blue cape and hat has to do with the ‘Super Mario’ series. Why are people into a one-off character like Geno also brings up more questions than answers.

If the petitions to cancel Metroid Prime: Federation Force, Paper Mario: Color Splash, Hey Pikmin!, and even those Nintendo Switch Online are to say anything; it is that regardless; Nintendo will push foward regardless of reception.

Lolololol wait... bwahahahaha!

Couldn't want them back more, both highly marketable indeed, a cute but powerful cloud prince and a badass and level headed possessed puppet, I just don't understand how they've been neglected for so long.

As good as paper Mario was, it never surpassed Mario RPG in my book.

Dreamers! It wouldn't make sense to have Geno in Smash before other SNES Square Enix icons like Crono, or the hero from Secret of Mana, or Ark from Terranigma. Even the Harvest Moon guy deserves it more.

@hatch So lets break it down.

Google tells us: Narcissistic entitlement refers to a belief that one's importance, superiority, or uniqueness should result in getting special treatment and receiving more resources than others. ... Narcissistic entitlement also includes a willingness to demand this special treatment or extra resources.

Writing a petition and getting it signed by like minded individuals requesting some characters in a video game doesn't fit the bill in my book.

@PlywoodStick Pit represents an entire IP. He’s in 100% of all Kid Icarus games. Geno is in an inconsequential fraction of Mario titles and has not been seen in two decades.

@FlightOfTheNav The meme of wanting Geno for Smash is bigger than the popularity of the actual character, itself. And the meme originates long before those re-releases. I guarantee more people played SMRPG in recent years because of the meme, and because they wanted to know who Geno even was.

@PlywoodStick That's a different situation to Geno. Pit was an official character created by Nintendo, whereas Geno was a side character in an RPG, created by Square.

I know its not the same but isn't Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi a continuum of the series?

@PlywoodStick
Vivi even has that cool Kingdom Hearts costume that makes his design even better.

Hopefully Sora in Smash would make all of these consolation prizes we're talking about such as KH costumes for Vivi and Cloud a moot point

Commenting on this several months after the fact because Operation StarFall is no longer just a petition (and a Smashboards thread). Now it has an official website and several social media outlets! If anyone is still interested in this, I suggest you check them out:

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