Rumour: The Next Super Smash Bros. Ultimate DLC Fighter Has Been Datamined

No, this is going to be Merida from the Pixar movie Brave obviously

I'd totally be down for this!

DQ representation is long overdue, seeing as how every main entry is/will be playable on Nintendo platforms.

Yeah saying a character has been datamined is a bit of a stretch..

I've said it once and I'll say it again. I am all for some Dragon Quest rep, but rumours are rumours and I'll remain excited for whoever is announced.

Can we get some Nintendo characters, please?

It's not a rumor, it's real I know, I am not crazy because I knew Digimon was coming to Nintendo Switch and I know for sure this is coming too

@EVIL-C if that representation is anything like Final Fantasy’s then big ehhhhh.

Ugh. This is really turning into a waste of 25 bucks if this is correct. Hopefully at least the other 3 are exciting Nintendo characters

@AG_Awesome the game is already full of "exciting Nintendo characters", I think you may be in the minority if you don't see the excitement in pretty much any 3rd party character being on the table.

Hopefully we get a Sub-Zero/Scorpion/Reptile pack?

I mean besides Mortal Kombat fighters and WaLuigi whats really left?

DK Jr or Wart?
Maybe they can complete the Captain N cast?
It'd be nice to get a Gameboy system fighter

@AG_Awesome Probably all 5 won't be Nintendo characters at all. Well their are already a bunch of Nintendo Characters as what SpaceboyScreams said.

Dragon Quest and Persona characters? Sounds like I won't be bothering with purchasing the DLC pass if it's going to be that lame.

@SpaceboyScreams

I can understand where he's coming from, though. We've already gotten more third party characters than we've ever seen in Smash, and the game is supposed to be a Nintendo brawler. That being said, I personally love the third party support and will take any DQ character I can get. Hopefully his moveset is very unique because we already have plenty of anime swordfighters.

I really hope they get some DQ representation. If any series deserves it, DQ does. I honestly can’t think of any other Nintendo character that I would care about having. I really don’t get all the love for Waluigi.

This has been a really strong rumor for a while and considering how little representation Square Enix has, it makes sense. Hopefully they will retroactively add more Final Fantasy music while they’re at it if this is true.

So the next one is codename Brave huh. What if it's not from Dragon Quest, what if it's from Brave Fencer Musashi or Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius or Phantom Brave or Bravely Default or Brave Dungeon or Brave Strangers or Torneko the Brave (which is eventually a Dragon Quest character). Lots of choice there.

If you aren’t giving us Goku, we need Brave from Merida, Dreamworks. There has to be some kind of anime rep. Jokes are funny.

I didn't read this, but I'm pretty sick of it.

Does NO ONE want to be surprised anymore? People wonder why they don't get what they ask for and why Nintendo is always so tight lipped. This is why.

Leaks and rumours are rubbish. There. I said it

Characters that should be in Smash:

Kamek
Waddle Dee
Peppy Hare
Darunia
Boom Boom
Pico
Octoling
Mr. Resseti
Bomberman
Magnus
Funky Kong
King Boo
Prince Fluff
Captain Toad
Rayman
Captain Syrup
Wart
Cackletta
Hades
Great Fairy
Dark Matter
Skull Kid

Wow how lame would that be? We already have 6 too many Fire Emblem characters, and plenty of fighters that already use a sword.

It may be a hit in Japan, where Dragon Quest is halfway popular, but this would be a total bummer for American, European and Australian audiences.

@Kevember I'd love to see mario in smash

@w00dm4n
Banjo-Kazooie, Mona, Lip, Goku, Waddle Dee, Peppy/Slippy echo, Dixie and/or Funky and/or Cranky Kong
Off the top of my head.

I thought Yuusha translated to hero in English? In that case it's a character from My Hero Academia!

@SpaceboyScreams Sorry. Sometimes I forget that having an opinion is a bad thing and offends people.

@IceEarthGuard well that would be pretty awful. 🤷‍♂️

I want to tell everyone on this planet this now: I am not making any games that are coming to Nintendo Switch! I simply contact the developers to ask if they could make the games I want to play on Nintendo Switch! I did it many times for Digimon and I asked Natsume if they could do it for Medabots on Nintendo Switch. I was not responsible for the Nintendo Switch's development because I am not qualified to work in the video game industry. I've had this problem many times and it doesn't stop! I DID NOT MAKE THE SWITCH! I am not pitching game ideas to Nintendo I am asking for them to consider having the games I want to play. I am not a game developer I just play. And I want no involvement of making them just hopeful that I can play! Sorry but I just wanted to write this.

This DLC is way smarter than many people seem to realize. Dragon Quest is probably the single biggest videogame franchise in Japan, so it's surprising that it isn't represented already. It's a great pick, especially since Smash Ultimate seems to have garnered a much bigger Japanese fanbase than it has had in its history. The Persona representation will also be great for getting the JRPG/anime audience fully hooked on the game.

Just because you don't like JRPG's doesn't mean that these characters are bad picks

Oh cool, a sword-fighting character. Hopefully the team can figure out how to program that one given their very little experience with sword fighters.

I'd like to see Rawk Hawk.

@KingBowser86
Banjo-Kazooie an Echo fighter of Duck Hunt?

I forgot Minecraft Steve

@DigiF4N I'm confused AF by this random outburst.

If I were Sakurai, and it were possible, if I heard that a character had been leaked or datamined, I would change the release order.

I didn't get this game because I didn't want to get caught up in kind of stuff. In the past it was okay? but I turned to other things now.

@FNL What is wrong with swordfighters? Should interesting fighters be kept out of the roster just because they use a sword?

This argument is getting old and tired.

I get the impression that Nintendo are holding back on some first party choices so that they actually have something to add to sequels.

@EVIL-C sorry it's my inner conflict but the thing is i did pitch an idea to nintendo to test my mental illness and replied back saying they don't take unsolicited ideas and i knew it because i am not qualified to work and don't really have interest and i am mentally ill. i did try one time but it wasn't for me. so i just spend my days now playing games on my nintendo systems. my mind isn't stable.

@DigiF4N Ah I see. I actually do understand about mental illness. My apologies.

Honestly no. I would rather have more unique off the wall characters like pirahna plant. Not some dbz wanna be looking mofo..boring...-_-. Unless its the purple and green chick forget DQ and come up with something better and more exciting/fun.

Lets get some black mage or banjo up in here!

I can honestly say I've never fully played through a Dragon Quest game myself but it definitely seems like a franchise popular enough to get a slot on smash.

As for other DLC. I'm not picky. I'd love to see Amy or Tails be playable for more SEGA/Sonic rep. Either that or Nights from Nights into Dreams.

For Nintendo characters Captain Toad with Toadette as an echo fighter would be nice or Shy Guy. Dixie Kong as an echo to Diddy or Funky as an echo to DK.

Would still love to see Shantae on the Indie side of things. But whatever happens I'm just glad to have a new Smash game to have fun with!!

I would have liked Slime better tbh

@Travisemo007 Black Mage like Vivi? I'd be so down for that!

Also really hoping Banjo and Kazooie are announced, they could be paired with an announcement that the two good games are coming to NSO, and a new sequel is being developed for Switch and Xbox One.

Guys brave is actualy a code confirming Waluigi's DLC. See brave stands for:
Bring
Ravioli
And
Villain
Eshop
Now ravioli confirms this is a mario character, as pasta is Italian, and villain is obviously refering to Waluigi! See guys he is in Smash!
(I really hope no one takes this seriously)

They kept coming up with these characters that i'm not interested in, but good for those who enjoy them.

@AG_Awesome Yeah for certain people indeed it will be bad. But not for other people. As for me I am fine with the decision.

@AxeltheBuizel

Waluigi confirmed for super secret final boss of Smash Ultimate in secret "Wah!" Mode DLC!! XD

@Appleflap I'm still holding out for Boss Baby personally.

Again, why would anyone buy into any Smash “leaks” after the grinch leak?

I’m not the biggest fan of RPG games except for a few like Persona, Pokémon, and Earthbound. So a Dragon Quest character isn’t something that I was hoping for. I can see this rumor being true since the series is big in Japan and has a good following outside of it. Well, I’m still looking forward to Joker coming to Smash and finding out who the other DLC characters turn out to be. Who knows, I might end up maining the DQ character. I’ll at least try it out if this rumor is true anyways.

I would love to have Waluigi, Crash or Banjo on Smash because of his design but i wont mind having another swordfighter as long as his playstyle is unique. Hopefully one of this anime sword fighters costumes will be Gokus.

Man, the headline is all kind of wrong.🙄
First of all, someone datamined the codename of some characters (and NOT the characters themselves). Second of all, since this is supposedly a fact, why are you labeling this as a rumour?

"jack frost, a demon from the persona series"

that is the most cursed thing ive ever read

One game I was testing used animal names for main missions and drink names for side missions, none of which had any connection to the content. Missions were released periodically and I've seen "100% confirmed leak" BS announced in forums by various users, telling people what the next mission will be like when I had it right there opened on the second monitor and nothing was like in the "leak".
I would take such "revelations" with a grain of salt. It's possible content codenames are linked to the characters, but most devs are too paranoid about that. They may have as well just used food or flowers for those

@Braok
To be fair, I don't think Sakurai would include an old english folklore figure independantly of having already appeared in a Japanese video game.

@IceEarthGuard If I have my facts straight, Nintendo reserved the right to choose the DLC fighters instead of letting Sakurai decide, which seems to be a strong indication, that those will be used for promotional purpose.

The Dragon Quest character makes sense, espeically with the announcement of Dragon Quest XI S supporting the fact.

So I would personally look out what titles cross over to the Switch or will be announced and go from there.

Though with the fan outcry, there might be at least a case be made for Waluigi down the line as a filler DLC spot.

I'd rather have Nintendo characters, what about Ray MK III from Custom Robo, Raymond Bryce from Disaster or Pious Augustus from Eternal Darkness?

But if it is to be 3rd party, then we need Leon from Resi 4, but I can definitely see Ezio from Assasins Creed on it's way.

It's so obvious that I doubt they both are legit coming.

Why are people so sure that Brave corresponds to DQ? What's the point of a codename if people can figure it out?

I’d rather like to see ‘Default’ from Fortnite make an appearance.

Regular attacks would be the pickaxe, up and b the glider, standard b a ranged attack, forward and b a wall is built and down and b a damaging dance move.

They could even put in a spawn island level.

As a huge fan of the series yes I would be thrilled to have Erdrick on Smash Bros. But it would be nice if they just revealed all of the 5 planned characters. This way I'd know if the fighters pass is worth it to me or I better pick the ones I'm interested in individually. I guess if I want 4 out of 5 fighters pass is the way to go, but I don't know yet. Erdrick would be a big yes.

@Pod I think it's Jack Frost is from the Shin Megami Tensei series, not Persona.

I think. I've not played either I only know him from Jack Bros but google says that's an SMT spin-off.

@ItsOKToBeOK I totally agree no more sword characters needed.

@w00dm4n that's not how echo fighters work. They're similar characters from the same series that share the same moveset but with a few tweaks.

Peach & Daisy are Mario, Marth & Lucina are Fire Emblem, Pit & Dark Pit are Kid Icarus, Ryu & Ken are Street Fighter, Simon & Richter are Castlevania, Roy & Chrom are Fire Emblem, Samus & Dark Samus are Metroid.

Banjo Kazooie is a completely different series to Duck Hunt and wouldn't use things like the Hogan's Alley can, clay pigeons or the Wild Gunmen.

I'd like them added, but they're not an echo fighter, they'd have to be their own unique thing. And to be honest I think we'll all feel a bit ripped off if we get an echo fighter as the DLC, especially after they've stated they're all unique.

@AG_Awesome I've had a very strong theory for a while that all of the DLC fighters (other than Piranha Plant) will be 3rd party characters. I mean, all major characters from franchises already in the game are already represented by spirits, and we all know that playable fighters have fighter spirits, which are different. If they intended a certain character to be in the game, they wouldn't have made a spirit for it, which was the exact case for Piranha Plant. There's a spirit for like every major Mario enemy, except for it. Heck, Petey Piranha is enhanced from Nipper Plant of all things.
And for other Nintendo franchises that are kind of big and don't have a character yet, like Golden Sun or Rhyhtm Heaven, they have music in the game, and it's in the "Other" category. They specifically said that every DLC character would come with a stage and music tracks, which pretty much means they would all have their own categories, separate from "Other". And to me, it seems pretty unlikely that they would take out music tracks from existing stages.

For me it was kinda obvious that someone from dragonquest would be in.
i dont believe the data mining guess.

Can't some things just be secrets. I remember the days when I got excited about announcements and not ruined by spoilers !! Baaaah

I think DLC can be a great way to get more unique content in the game. Or you could just pay money for another swordfighter.

I'm still holding out for Ryu Hayabusa. How can Ninja Gaiden not have any representation? It's just criminal.

@ReaderRagfihs : She's saving her moves for "Mavis Beacon Teaches Violence". US exclusive.

@GyroZeppeli They've already stated that fighters have to originate from a video game i.e. no anime characters.

Geralt of rivia will be dlc. If not I will boycot.

Some more obscure characters from Nintendo like Captain Rainbow or Doshin the Giant. Or maybe some love for a villainous character as they rarely get to the higher tiers - the Skull Kid would be awesome.

Seeing as how the most likely incarnation of Erdrick to be included in Smash right now would be a spoiler for the true ending in his home game if they use that name, I wonder which other hero Nintendo will choose instead?

Probably the DQ III one, which hopefully means that we'll get a port of that game eventually.

If we don't get Bayou Billy, I am burning my Switch on Youtube.

@ItsOKToBeOK your right, i just counted the Swordfighters in smash and there's 16 fighters with sword (15 if you don't count Ganondorf)

Another generic sword fighter. Nice.

@retro_player_22 How are you the only one to point out all these different things that "Brave" could be, but then again that would be too obvious right?

cool, though I think a slime would be more fun and distinctive.

Regardless, lets hope fighter #3 will finally be Banjo

@Krisi @AG_Awesome

I agree with The Krisi Theory! It makes sense to me.

I too wanted more Nintendo characters but when I thought about it, all I could come up with were characters who already have a presence in the game as either a spirit or assist trophy and it seems highly unlikely that those characters would be DLC too. Although, a lot of 3rd party characters that I would want (Shovel Knight, Rayman, Alucard, Bomberman) are also already represented.

It would be cool if Nintendo worked something really crazy out like getting James Bond from Goldeneye in the game. Never happening but it's fun to dream.

Vault Boy would be another big one for me!

I sure hope they're not going to take my fighters pass money and give me nothing but 5 more spikey-haired mannequins swinging their swords and grunting out "hyaaa!". I don't want to insult the fans of these games and characters, but just a couple of these types go a long way. I'm trying to play through classic mode with every character, but it gets pretty samey going from Marth to Ike to Chrom to Cloud etc, etc...

I hope at least one of the coming DLC fighters will be another cartoon mascot type. Maybe they'll really surprise us and go for "Plok".

I think how the fighter plays is more important than who they actually are. I mean, I'd love to see Banjo, but if he plays like garbage then I would never pick him. On the other hand, if they give us Gameboy Pixel, just a dark green square and he bloody owns, then I'd choose him even if he's boring to look at.

Another sword fighter... Go figure.

@AG_Awesome It's not having an opinion is a bad thing, but others are equally allowed to have their own opinion in response to yours.

If they put Kratos on Smash i would be the happiest person on Earth.

@w00dm4n
Vergeben certainly indicated that Minecraft would be in, in some form or fashion. For what that is worth (since Joker blew his "the first character revealed will be SquareEnix property" leak).
As for Banjo-Kazooie, nah, they'd definitely have their own moveset. Side B would be Beak Buster, Down B would be the Beak Slam, B would be Peck, etc.
EDIT: The best part is, the BK stage could have smart-aleck quips like the Codec or Guidance for every character, and it wouldn't take any extra voice acting! Just use AHW OHW AHW AHW AHW, GUB GUB GUB, REEH REH REEEEH, OOH O OH, etc.

@w00dm4n I have a real hard time imaging, but Scorpion would be awesome...

I want Geno so bad in smash

@flapjack-ashley Yes, they can have an opinion as well. Who said they couldn’t?

Joker now this? Oh god why not better known and cooler fighters eh

@LegendofCreed There are so many things wrong with my comment that I thought it was obviously a joke.

@Ogbert @Pod I say it's cursed because in SMT Jack Frost would be a demon, and in Persona they would be a Persona/Shadow. Saying he's from Persona is already wrong (even if they are in Persona), but referring to him as a demon in that context is all sorts of wrong.

@Franklin They're all spirits, except who's Cackletta?

I can imagine every specific humanoid swordfighter has their fans who find them distinctive, but their just too interchangeable for me. I usually want to play through the whole roster,and they can be fun, but it’s a bit more of a slog.

I may have been going for comic effect before suggesting Plok, but he actually wouldn’t be bad. I could see the big red fists and boots flying around the stage, and he could have moves where he blows fighters around with flags as well. So, partly in the spirit of unlikely wacky choices, but also characters with real potential, here’s an extended list I would prefer to more sword fighting Anime dudes:

Plok
Rocky Rodent
Glover (imagine the fight with Master Hand...)
Dig Dug
Q-Bert
Earthworm Jim
Rayman
Globox
Bubble and Squeak
Ristar
Clockwork Knight
Bug!
Birdo
Klaymen
Raz (Psychonauts)
Bad Mr Frosty
Tempo
Bubsy
Katamari’s Prince
Blinx
Cool Spot
Super Putty

I guess I won’t start holding my breath over any of these, though.

@SKTTR

Mario is also a spirit.

A villain in the Mario & Luigi series.

...Another series I don't care for...sighs

Maybe Mike Jones from Star Tropics? I mean people have pointed out how many sword users there are but there are only 2 yo-yo/baseball bat characters.

Of course if we are pulling from Star Tropics than Zoda would be perfect to increase the "scary dragon from outerspace" selection.

This comment is meant to be a joke but seriously, one of Mike Jone's costumes could be when he had to dress like a girl. I actually think there might be potential for the character despite his plain look.

Banjo or nada

WOAH! We’re Getting More Anime Swordfighters?

@Appleflap I would pay top dollar for Merida DLC

@Velocirapstar admittedly "another swordfighter" with huge chances of using sword and shields(something exclusive to the Links and no one else right now) and spells(sword+spells being exclusive to Robin for now, of you can him a sword fighter at all) since Dragon Quest heroes aee traditionally not just swordusers but also healers almost on par with the actual priest class(heroes even have access to the strongest healing spell in the game, called Omniheal) and are offensive casters not far behind mages(even having access to a lightning family of spells exclusive to the hero class).

Which is all to say...
If we get a Dragon Quest hero and they do him well, the character will very much not be another product of the Marthco cloning vats.

Rather, the closest approximation would be the lovechild of Link and Robin, with a dash of Pikachu thrown in.

Why would they have this code in there already? It's unlikely the characters will be started getting released until the 2nd half of this year, maybe even late Q3 or early Q4. I doubt they've hardly started development for the character AFTER Joker. They didn't even have any in-game footage to show for Joker's announcement, it was clearly that early in development.

Although I wouldn't complain about Erdrick being true.

@Baker1000
The code snippets they're digging out pertain to the infrastructure around the upcoming characters. SUPPOSEDLY. It's code from the latest updates that have ben distributed to everyone.

@JayJ grrossss, how dare they add two of the most popular characters from two of the world's biggest franchises.

Can't we just have 5 more versions of mario ?

@Baker1000 i've worked in PS3/Steam game design and interactive website design, and we've always had placeholders for things 6 months to a year down the line.

@DavidMac Yes that black mage! The only one i know of lol. Currently one of my favorites to play in ssf2.

Let's see what the Square-Enix scenario is.
If it's Erdrick or any other DQ guy or gal, we get an Akira Toriyama-designed character in Smash and Nintendo characters in his style as promotional art.
If it's Sora, well, it's one of the most requested characters ever, not to mention the sheer coolness of Disney being mentioned in the title screen and all the cool stuff he could bring to the table.
If it's Geno, same thing as before, only as a Mario rep hailing straight from the RPGs. Another win.
If it's Sephiroth, more villains.
If it's Tifa, more females.
If it's Terra, more retro females.
If it's Kefka, more retro villains.
If it's Cloud Of Darkness, more clouds retro female villainesses, I mean, one retro villainess (Dark Samus doesn't count, you wiseguys) to foil Cloud in every possible way aside from the name.
If it's Aya Brea, weirdest possible choice, but a survival horror rep nonetheless. And a girl.
If it's Lara Croft, it's an iconic gaming action girl, one that represented video games in mainstream media just as much as Mario still does nowadays.
If it's a Chocobo, it's a Chocobo. I can't argue with Chocobos.
If it's Vivi, well, he already has his game scheduled for release on Switch this year. And he's the most iconic black mage in the entire FF series.
Whatever happens with Square, it's a win-win for us. I'm rooting for Sora, but whatever we get is going to add value to the Fighter Pass I already paid for and therefore wouldn't mind to see the contents of.

@CharlieSmile
No wonder you would, given what Merida's goal was in the movie. I wouldn't mind either, but as far as archers - and, let's be honest, game-native characters - go, I'd love to have Decidueye in Smash.

@HatosBlack I don't care for surprises

@ItsOKToBeOK "this would be a total bummer for American, European and Australian audiences." True.