One of the biggest selling points for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is arguably the "Everyone is Here!" statement. As you'll likely know, the game features every single playable character that has ever been available in a Smash game - and also throws in a few new ones - but there's one character which actually causes a little bit of a problem here.
That character is Charizard. In Smash Ultimate, Charizard appears as part of Pokémon Trainer, a character originally from Smash Bros. Brawl who can swap between the aforementioned fiery lizard, the ever-adorable Squirtle, and the super-cool grass-type Ivysaur. Technically, though, Charizard has also appeared as a separate standalone character in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS (known by fans under the name 'Smash 4').
While we selfishly wait to hear what this means for the Super Smash Bros. amiibo collection (will Charizard technically be included twice?), the official Pokémon UK website has chimed in with a theory as to why this change may have taken place. The paragraphs below come from an article celebrating the franchise's appearance in Ultimate, noting how Smash's Charizard may have disobeyed the Pokémon Trainer for a while, just like Ash Ketchum's did in the Pokémon anime.
The original Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 64 marked the first time that Pokémon made the jump from turn-based battles to real-time combat, with Pikachu and Jigglypuff as the debut Pokémon contenders. The series has come a long way since then, with a wide assortment of fighters from the Pokémon universe appearing in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
The returning Pokémon Trainer can send out Squirtle and Ivysaur, as well as Charizard, which is back at the Pokémon Trainer's side after its previous standalone appearance. We'd like to believe that this Charizard merely decided to disobey its Trainer for a little while, much like Ash's Charizard did in Pokémon the Series.
So there you have it, Charizard just went through its moody teenager phase for Smash 4, before realising the importance of its friends and family for Ultimate. We've all been there, buddy.
[source pokemon.com]
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I guess it would be a nice way to explain that.
So why didn't the trainer just battle without him, and just use Squirtle and Ivysaur instead? Can they explain that?
Pikachu and Charizard both need to be left on Oak’s doorstep. “Here you deal with them. I’m sick of second degree burns and random twitches because my nerves are damaged. “
@TF-Warrior Our trusted sources tell us that Ivysaur and Squirtle refused to fight without Charizard unless they received significant salary boosts. The Smash gods refused to meet their demands, and so Pokémon Trainer had no choice but to sit out for the entire game.
so what about the rest of the mons that don't have trainers? i understand mew2
I don't really care about an explanation but I think he should be in Ultimate as a solo fighter and with the Pokémon Trainer. They did say everyone is here! I get that he technically is but in my opinion, it's not quite the same.
The only downside is that Charizard loses his down b move (which I didn’t use much anyway). Also I like this little bit of “lore” that they’ve created and I’m willing to accept that this really happened.
That... makes a LOT more sense now.
You want to blame something then blame the 3DS, not Charizard’s immaturity lol.
If they couldn’t put Ice Climbers in because of technical limitations, then switching between 3 characters with a Pokemon trainer hanging out in the background might have been too much for poor little 3DS. I’m glad there was a way for people to play smash 4 in handheld, but man did it affect the Wii U version.....
I, for one, love the trio back together again. 🥰
@ryancraddock Thank god the Pokemon have unionised since the last game. Workers of the world, unite!
@raygboyd333: Mewtwo laughs at trainers. If you try to catch him, he'll train YOU.
@Kwehst I think they are just trying to have some fun with it. Historically, Charizard in the anime has been a bit of a buttface so this is a great callback.
@TF-Warrior he went to get more badges, obviously.
@ryancraddock Trainer should have rushed out and grabbed a lvl. 3 Caterpie and got his ass to the fight.
That makes sense and could be a reference to the show as Charizard did disobeyed Ash since Charmander was originally not Ash's Pokemon.
@frabbit You just can't get the staff these days!
I much prefer this interpretation: http://omegamodecomic.tumblr.com/image/128605165396
That’s witty and neat.
Oh wait... I meant to say that it doesn’t make sense because they don’t explain what happened to the other two Pokémon and just try to hide technical limitations behind a flimsy backstory.
Whew, I almost got caught wandering away from the groupthink for a moment there. Internet, forgive me.
@TF-Warrior Squirtle was off with the squad and Ivysaur was finding himself
@TF-Warrior
the trainer was depressed and charizard was like WTF? I will do it without you FU! Lol
Didn’t he do that in Brawl too? That’s why the trainer has to fight him in Subspace Emissary.
Alright. To those slapping your chest claiming this to be a good idea. Let me shut you down right now by saying that Pokemon Trainer represents Red from the series, not Ash. Changing Charizard to occasionally disobey would NOT make sense to the ACTUAL lore. This entire article was embarrassing to read.
I feel like it would had been better if Charizard had been added twice instead, one with Pokémon Trainer and the second as its own character marked as an echo fighter, or at least i think it makes sense but that's just my opinion.
@Yallneedjesus Was it embarrassing to read solely because you didn't comprehend the distinction they made between Trainer and Ash? Or was it that the phrase "much like" is embarrassingly different than "exactly like".
"We'd like to believe that this Charizard merely decided to disobey its Trainer for a little while, much like Ash's Charizard did in Pokémon the Series."
Yeah, reference one of the worst plot points from the original Pokemon anime as an excuse for the 3DS's limitations. GG.
I loved Charizard in 4. I really miss his down B in Ultimate though.
I wish that they had a down special (like project M. Ivysaurs solar beam, squartles..... I don't remember ).
But that is a cool explaination..... Now to figure out the Pichu theory that doesn't work now. (Pichu evolving to Pikachu in brawl for the volt tackle, and blue goggles)
I don't care what the explanation is. I'd just like to have Charizard back as a separate character just like Mewtwo and Pikachu. At the very least, get rid of forced switch on KO as Pokemon Trainer.
I wonder, if Damian heard Ash's Charizard wouldn't obey him, would he trade a Magikarp for it, because that's all Ash would deserve is a Magikarp as pathetic as he is! When are we gonna get another Digimon-Related article in the future, or is that on the Sony equivalent news site?
@Yallneedjesus Charizard could still disobey Red if certain condition are not met even if it was originally the Charmander obtain from the beginning. If Charizard reach a level higher than expected when Red only obtain two or less badges then Charizard is likely to disobey Red if it choose to. Even Pikachu disobey Ash at the beginning of the anime.
I'd love if they did this for all the returning fighters. For example:
Pichu: recovering from injuries after all the beating it took.
Young Link: got stuck in Jabu Jabu's Belly and couldn't find the dungeon map.
Wolf: was too busy because he couldn't let Starfox do that.
Snake: busy trying to obtain the Ford Fusion. (I really hope someone gets the reference.)
@TF-Warrior Dejected after the loss of Charizard, the Pokemon Trainer hung up his belt and spent the entirety of Smash 4 running a hydroponic garden out of a recycled shipping container. The more unscrupulous rumors have it that Charizard only rejoined the team after the others made their first million on their joint-venture, and had to convince them that the savings on overnight shipping alone would be worth splitting the profits 4-way. I'd like to think it was friendship though, and that battling was a bonus after that.
@Lizuka ...with Pikachu Libre as the mother.
@Charizard why did you disobey ash
As if we needed more proof that Charizard is the worst starter.
@shoeses The anime only got worse from there.
Damn... I bought this at launch, played it for a while and let it sit for almost a year and a half. Finally unlocked everyone. Charizard was one of my favorites. So disappointed. I guess I have another reason to keep my WiiU.
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