Here's How To Get Mythra's Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Outfit In Xenoblade Chronicles 2

I assume the outfit was made for a tamer ESRB rating for Ultimate. Nevertheless that's a pretty nice outfit for Mythra, I'll be getting it once I have an excuse to go back to a game that I absolutely destroyed this year (350 hours and still counting).

Shiryu to the rescue with the audio-visual aids:

Still prefer the more revealing outfit but nice to see the game getting new content.

If only it was enough to save this game.

Would be good if it was available from start and Pyra had one too.
The sexualization just puts me off from playing this game.

@Starvald It's just Japanese culture.

@TommyTendo I know, but doesn't mean I enjoy it on my games.

Nevertheless, people always come up with that argument, but just because it's part of one culture doesn't mean its right or a good thing.

In Portugal and Spain there is bullfighting. Some people like it, other people think should be banned. Defensors says its part of culture and should be kept.

I prefer the new design. While a huge fan of Xenoblade 2 (and the Xeno series in general), I still wish they adopted a more modest approach. The fan service in that game is just downright goofy at times.

Took you a while, but I appreciate your effort to finally say something about this.

The way Nintendo handled this is so smooth it makes me wonder if the heavy censorship of the WiiU era was actually a thing and not just a nightmare.

The only problem I have with this is that it's still monday.

I have no intrest in playing these games. I'm not really into JRPGs (pokemon is the exception, if it even counts), or just games with extremly long and drawnout stories.

@Starvald "...just because it's part of one culture doesn't mean it's a good thing."

rousing applause

This is better

I seriously doubt her outfit change was to lower Smash Brothers Ultimates ESRB rating. Have people forgotten that Zero Suit Samus can get alot more nude than this outfit? Not to mention Shulk can get down to nothing but boxers. So who knows, maybe the outfit change was planned to be a special dlc promotion. Similar to the Xenoblade Chronicles 2 outfit promotion in Breath of the Wild.

@Starvald I feel you. It’s so in your face and pretty much every cutscene features at least one boob shot. As a gay guy it was super off putting as it gave me absolutely no pleasure and just felt like they were waving it all in my face assuming I’m into women and that big boobs and naked women would help me through the game.

@Starvald you're comparing killing bulls for to sake of sport... to stylistic sex appeal on a fictional character.

Which one is actually wrong here?

@Peterjr1 If it doesn't appeal to you then don't pay mind to it.

I'm not into guys but you ain't gonna see me negatively point the finger everytime Kenshiro from Lost Paradise goes shirtless. Some people like that for a variety of reasons. Rather than being ashamed, let it be.

@patbacknitro18 some people speculate it's the CERO who did this, which explains the uprightness of the change.

If memory serves this makes her look even more like the original KOS-MOS.

Nice to see this as a free download for everyone, when I read the title I mistakenly thought getting the outfit in XC2 would require a SSBU save file, similar to the Pokémon Let's Go tie in.

We'll be getting both games, SSBU and XC2 for Christmas, probably pick up Torna with a gift card soon thereafter.

@SamirMalik Thats a fighting game. He’s clearly not designed to look conventionally attractive unlike the female characters like Pyra and Mythra in this game. Also, this series isn’t known for this ‘fanservice’ so I wasn’t really expecting the amount of pandering that was all through it. Constant boob, underskirt etc shots as well as a maid companion that gets more naked with each upgrade and the plethora naked girl blades.
Edit: oh also, the main character waking up with his face between Mythra’s breasts, waking up in her lap looking up at her boobs, Pyra learning to be subservient from poppy, Nia transforming into an underwear model and professing her love for the main character etc.

Im not saying I played Senran Kagura and was put off the amount of pandering, I played a RPG that was known for quality storytelling and world design and was bombarded with it.

Plus, there is absolutley no comparison between male and female ‘fanservice’. Outside of fighting games, it’s rare to see men sexualised to anywhere near the degree that women are and yeah that’s annoying as a gay guy.

I don't mind they added this outfit to the game, but I wish they kept the original in Smash. Nothing wrong with a bit fanservice.

@Peterjr1 As someone who’s into both, I totally get what you mean. There’s a definite skewing towards boobs in your face so it’s quite hard to find either JRPGs without all that nonsense or ones that are at least equal. I think the problem is that guys can’t show junk without the game being pretty much banned and their chests aren’t sexualised in the same way. Unless it’s Mario, those nipples were vaguely disturbing.

I like this better than the original outfit personally. I always hated the hyper sexualized look to what are essentially WMDs. That being said it is at least some what across the board. Gorg is half naked too (still more clothing than Mythra or Pyra but its obvious he is supposed to be stared at, the poses he makes alone prove that.) I never understand why cool factor has to mean less clothing or tight clothing (and no that doesn't mean I am calling for puritan outfits...just practical ones). Humans are strange.

@RupeeClock Yep, wasted opportunity that.

@Peterjr1 I recall on a prerelease interview with GameSpot with the PR that one of the things the two women started going off on was how sexy Kenshiro was. THE FiRST THING

Maybe you don't find him sexy yourself but plenty of people do. Doesn't matter if it's a "fighting game" or not. It's all idealistic fantasy the same. Fanservice exist all over Japanese media for both men and women. I'm straight and I can see that easily.

So acting like your kind of fanservice is rare and making a big fuss over other people's type is only making things harder on yourself. If something passive doesn't appeal to me, I just don't pay much attention to it and look towards what does appeal. I don't see why it's so hard for you to do the same.

@Ryu_Niiyama because it's fun?

Hell, most of the sword fighting you see in the majority of Media is not realistic or practical either (especially when you wear lots of heavy armor). It's dramatised and stylistic.

Same thing with character designs. It's suppose to look amazing and fun. Not realistic.

@Starvald People like you who say every clothing that shows more skin and says it is "sexualization" is kinda pathetic.... here is a couple of better reasons to just ignore who wears what.........we were born naked......and in video games, it isn't even real people but then again you can have feelings for non real things... no offence but that reason on why you hate that bothers me. And your other example is completely different and is irrelevant to why you think about more revealing clothing. (remember that you are stating an opinion and I am giving an counter opinion on your thoughts.....and none are facts....it is just opinions that feel right).

Now known as: Mythra: Sony Edition Costume.

For the Players.

@Ryu_Niiyama "Cool factor" I think it's usually art imitating life. Probably instinctually, desirable, people with good genetic traits are prone to want to show off their desirable traits, both to prospective mates, and to others to highlight their "higher status" in genetic competition, thus less clothing to maximize that effect. The bare chested guy with a six pack and gold chains is showing off his desirable genes. The thin busty girl, the same thing. The art really just apes reality.

People complain about Pyra and Mythra, but in reality if she's supposed to be a teenage girl or thereabouts, good luck trying to get teenage girls to keep their clothes on.....She's modestly dressed in contrast to reality. I remember back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth I was in middle school, the multiple daily warnings from teachers to the girls to stop hiking up their skirts. They'd do it anyway, of course.

@Peterjr1 Might want to put some of that in spoiler tags! You're posting some pretty big spoilers there.

Ugh, give me a costume for Pyra too. She's so subservient and soft-spoken/shy, why is she wearing booty shorts and a g-string? I have no problem with characters being dressed to reflect their personality, but anime can be pretty bad about that. Innocent girl who dislikes attention? Get her half naked with her double E breasts popping out of her shirt!

Bayonetta is my favorite videogame character ever, and some think she's over sexualized but her skin-tight costume perfectly represents her personality, and she's more clothed than Pyra!

I'm just here in defense of boobs. Needs more boobs.

@Frenean Yeah, Pyra's costume is a huge mismatch for her personality. That did always seem wrong. Mythra's costume is oddly more reserved, yet she' has a bombastic, arguably volatile personality.

OTOH, Bayonetta's costume is made entirely out of her own hair......she's technically always naked......Happy Monday!

@Peterjr1 I got your point. The fanservice is really exaggerated and out of place. I was trying to play a good RPG but the outfits doesnt matchup. But people here will defend it nevertheless. Thats OK, but I believe the game loses some players if it continues to use this kind of fanservice in newer iterations.

@SamirMalik @IceEarthGuard

A big issue here is that there was no way to avoid it. There is a big difference between having characters with sexy designs and just being crass and demeaning.

E.g. Forcing every player to stare up a skirt rather than allowing you to tilt the camera.

Putting a super sexualised outfit on a character whose personality is shy and naive as opposed to one who revels in the attention just seems predatory to me.

2B and A2 from Nier Automata both have kinky designs but the game never forces you to sexualise them.

Bayonetta's design perfectly matches the characters personality and the game lets you change the outfit to both more and less provocative choices. 👍

You should be able to have it both ways and this dlc seems like a step in the right direction.

@AJWolfTill
Perfect! Too bad I cant like your comment more than once!

@Kriven nice generalization there. Of course media that only tries to serve one audience will keep only one audience. More and more women are getting into gaming (biggest mobile game consumers) and yet games stay the way they are (‘fanservice’ being massively rampant on mobile). This will likely force a change in the market at some point down the line and then I guess women and gay men won’t have to ‘waaaaaah’ anymore and maybe they’ll get a taste of what entitlement feels like finally.

@AJWolfTill yep. Thank you. My point exactly.

@Starvald Please tell me you’re not trying to compare torture of a living animal (sometimes to death) to some visible boobs and thigh on non-existent fictional women. Jesus tapdancing overly-sensitive Christ.

@Benjamin I didn't compare those. I stated the argument "that's Japanese culture" is very weak and used Bullfighting as an example of where people also employ the term "that's that country's culture".

You can argue for or against boobs in, whatever in a game but please come up with other arguments.

@AJWolfTill Crass and demeaning? pyra (or mythra) is a highly attractive goddess-like character being romantically eyed by our coming of age protagonist, who is also wide eyed until the story keeps moving on. What part of that is demeaning?

I mean, come on. Not every sexy character has to have the personality of a dominatrix (or a Bayonetta) to be good. That sounds so rigid and boring! What about guys like me who prefers gentle, sexy, cutsy girls? Especially when characters like those are as sexually stylized as much as they are.

I'm all for different tastes and admitting that something isn't for you but c'mon man. This is ridiculous...

@Starvald Very weak?

Because a japanese game with lots of japan's cultural nuances and view point suddenly contains the things Japan is ok with is bad?

@Starvald The problem is that you compared a largely harmless cultural point to one that is decidedly more controversial on a worldwide scale. A more accurate cultural argument would be comparing Japan’s penchant for fanservice to Americans enjoying country music, or Hindus in India not consuming beef, or Brits being highly specific about what goes with what tea. Bullfighting actively harms a living creature for entertainment. No one is being harmed by Pyra’s thighs except a handful of overly sensitive snowflakes who project to astounding degrees.

Heck, for all we know, in the world of Xeno, her attire could in fact be a cultural norm, given how it compares to others in the game. Folks could very well be applying an entirely incorrect set of values onto it.

(And before anyone even tries to say “well are you saying that if a game had a culture where women could be raped that it would be okay because of culture?!”, no, no I’m not - I’m speaking specifically and strictly of harmless fanservice that hurts no one but the eyes of the frail and prude.)

@SamirMalik Again, just because the origin country says its ok, doesn't make it ok. Just because it's cultural or a tradition, doesn't make it correct.

i.e. http://time.com/2892728/japan-finally-bans-child-pornography/ Only in 2014 after years of international pressure.

And again, I am not comparing both situations. Just demonstrating how weak the argument "its part of Japanese culture" is.

@Starvald
I said culture. As in regional way of living and thinking,
Not laws. Laws don't always reflect what the general culture thinks.

@Benjamin Well, I disagree to the point where you say its harmless.
It portrays Women as just something to be looked at, which is actually something big in Japan, here is one example I found: https://www.japanpowered.com/japan-culture/gender-roles-women-modern-japan

@SamirMalik before stuff becomes law, they are usually accepted.

I don't understand some of these arguments... I mean I think by design this game was suppose to be for Japanese player base. Can you guys just appreciate and enjoy games made for and by another country instead of criticising their culture? Pretty much targets people that likes jump mangas, their motto is clearly "friendship, effort, and victory". Majority of the characters are pretty sexy including male characters. I don't think I've ever seen a hard fight that goku had that he wasn't half naked.I don't see you guys complaining about Zeke always showing his packs or Rex showing his butt all the time. So much double standard floating around. Also with the comment on how pyras outfit does not match, her character name is Fire literally. She is passionate and gentle like gentle flames from candles, but also represented by the color red. Red associates with passion, love, desire, sex and power. I think the outfit reflects what she means quite well, just because she's gentle and passionate doesn't mean she can't represent a burning flame(gentle) flame.

@Starvald Which only supports what i just said. Nobody in the world wants their child to be raped. Especially Japan. The thing is that Japan is usually really good at keeping societal peace due to how homogeneous the culture is. If something like that got out in public, even before the law, it would be under heavy scrutiny from the vast majority.

But that's besides the point. We were talking about a video game. A piece of entertainment meant to entertain. Not politics.

@Kriven

I'm straight, and sex for the sake of sex is unappealing to me. I love well-written characters and stories, and stuff like this can break my immersion. Like I said above, I have no problem with Bayonetta's costume because she's a total show-stealing diva and she's meant to be sexy. It just makes sense. Pyra's design does not make sense. I like her character, but it's butchered by her design that just makes it impossible for me to take her seriously.

@NEStalgia yeah, and the thing is that I'm really not trying to be prudish here. I love XBC2's gameplay, but the amount of fanservice that does nothing but work against the story makes it hard for me to say that it's my favorite game in the series. XBC2 for combat/gameplay, XBC1 for characters/story/world. I'd say their soundtracks are tied.

At least in XBC1 you had the option of customising the characters, male and female to your own personal preferences.

The female outfits weren’t what ultimately put me off XBC2 TBH. It was the daft outfit Rex wears for the whole game. Why it didn’t have customisable armour I will never know.

There is nothing wrong with fanservice. Just because you don't like it does not mean someone else can't.

@Frenean Ignoring the "rare" blades (that were apparently outsourced and the other company just happened to make a harem in the absence of directives), for the main characters, I think Pyra's the only one that really is an issue. Mythra's costume is revealing, but more conservative than Pyra's odd bikini thing, and her "revealing cheerleader that's completely unapproachable" fits her personality perfectly. I don't mind Poppi because she's a joke character that exists both to continuously showcase that Tora is a little pervert, and as a kind of walking joke of the entire JRPG trope. She's kind of a mockery of fanservice while being fanservice. That one makes sense. She's that way because Tora built her that way because he's the stereotypical anime watching basement dweller and so is his father.

But Pyra, it's such a mismatch, of the most reserved personality with such a forward attention seeking costume. I did stick with Mythra ost of the game. Her design fit her personality a lot better. I could see her choosing to wear that (and then freaking out on anyone that looks as she does to Rex. ) Pyra...no way she'd wear that if she had a choice.

@tobibra

No one is saying that you can't like it, but the reverse is also true: Just because others like it doesn't mean I have to. I am an aspiring writer and I would never write a character like Pyra and then give her the outfit she has.

@NEStalgia well you could argue that pyra does not see the problem with her costume. After all, she is rather naive and if I remember correctly she has not spend much time with humans ( i did not play Torna yet). But still a more tame costume would fit her personality better.

@Starvald All it seems to display to me is that people are for looking at, or did you miss some of these chiseled hunks of “take me” they threw in there? And this was just a handful at a glance, plenty of good looking dudes in brief or skin-tight attire in that universe. Seems like both sides of the aisle are getting some nice looking folks, so I see no issue here.

Unless the next argument is that every character ought to be covered as much as possible.

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@Frenean I disagree on the "Sex for the sake of sex" front. (That would be a Michel Bay heroine. Looks good but flat in personality)

Sex is a frail, timid, gentle-minded, emotional and a whole beautiful mess of other emotions of a moment.

From a narrative standpoint it makes sense why pyra is the way she is. She is all of those fragile emotions personafied for the maturing Rex.

@Kriven the massive majority of games aren’t for gay men or women. We can’t complain about 99% of games if we can’t complain about things that aren’t ‘made for us’.

@Kriven pfft. What came to mind when you said that was the likes of Activision, Ubisoft, EA, ect.

Dunno. Just thought it was funny.

@Peterjr1 What the- I just said that they were sexy guys all over the Japanese entertainment industry!

You're only making this difficult on yourself, man. C'mon...

@SamirMalik you say that but where is it? Could you link me to a male senran kagura reglexions on the Uk eshop? A big budget Nintendo rpg that subjects the male characters to constant crotch and pec shots where they have big bulges and they go out of their way to please a male or female player character and that main character wakes up between the mans pecs etc?

You can keep saying it but games made for gay men and straight women pale so far in comparison to the amount of big budget boobs-in-your face RPGs and fighting games, dating games etc.

Dont condesend me like that

@Kriven that’s exactly what I was doing initially but it does feed into an industry wide problem of assuming that people want boobs in their face wherever and whenever possible and that absolutely is an issue of sexuality

@tech7 True, and there's technically the fact that Mythra created Pyra.....that could be Mythra's interpretation of who Pyra SHOULD be. Or just a Mythra Fashion Fail, on the scale of a Mythra Cooking Fail. Destroying things seems to be the main thing she's best at

@SamirMalik wow now you’re calling me a spoiled brat when your inability to name more than 2 GAMES has proven that in this circumstance I’m taking about I’m far from spoiled.

To parrot your phraseology; you’re making this more difficult than it has to be, just admit that male sexualisation is nowhere near comparison to female and stop being a sheltered heterosexual.

@Kriven the other guy and you are both acting like you are tripping over males bulges that you have to ignore because I said that I didn’t like playing this game which doesn’t have a history of being ‘fanservice’ and having boobs and butts shoved in my face like every other JRPG.

You have both tried to make out like it’s a ‘just ignore it and play the games made for you’ kind of thing when almsot nothing is made specifically for my demographic to get this kind of ‘fanservice’. You’re both throwing up strawmen to basically just say ‘straight men like boobs, deal with it’.

@Peterjr1 Maybe otomoe games are more your kind of fanservice?

@tobibra indeed. That sounds more the type to get into if you want something more sexually innocent.

@SamirMalik Im telling you as a gay person in the gay community who talks about games all the time with other gay men that there is almost nothing comparable to high level, straight-male pandering games like Xenoblade Chronicles 2, like all the other JRPGS (I actually can’t think of a single one)

You keep telling me to go to other media but we’re on a video game website talking about video games.

You can’t tell me to shut up and go read while also saying you don’t know about gay games because you aren’t gay while a gay guy is telling you that there is nothing high level like these other pandering games.

Ive only continued talking because people keep replying and you’re repeatingly calling me names. I’m not demanding boobs get taken away from people all I’m saying is the heavy af pandering in the game detracted from the story and characterization and that’s a problem in many RPGs and other games.

It isn’t a lie that it isn’t compatible, it’s a fact and you being willfully ignorant for the sake of telling me to shut up isn’t an excuse.

@Peterjr1 and visual novels aren't adventure games?

I'm not telling you to go to other media. The database I had in mind was primarily for visual novels so you can find what you like.

you're not going to find many VNs on Nintendo consoles or PlayStation consoles or Xbox. On console, such a genre is a niche altogether. Visual novels are most popular on PC because that's where they're the most accessible and originally made for.

" while also saying you don’t know about gay games because you aren’t gay" don't know? I said I don't remember them. That doesn't mean they don't exist. I don't typically bother with remembering the titles unless they appeal to me or gain public traction because those titles are not for me. Yet I am aware that they have an niche appeal for other people, specifically women. So I've been trying to point you in that general direction. But you're not budging after banging my head against the wall. So I'm just ready to leave you hanging hopelessly while you remain stuck in your ways.

By the way I've reiterated many times in this section that does sexualisation of Pyra/Mythra in the game is supposed to be for Rex's coming of age character arc. Even sexually. (That and it's light-hearted fun when it wants to be.) Saying it detracted from it misses the point .

The good old internet debate!

Everyone knows that the sexiest character in XC2 is the tight leathered, bare chested swarthy pirate-looking Prince Zeke with his massive two-handed sword and “eye of shining justice”.

@Peterjr1 I can save you some time and give you a complete list of the responses you're going to get here.

"It's just a little cleavage, don't be a prude."

"It's just a video game, it doesn't hurt anybody."

"Why is skin taboo but violence isn't?"

"If Pyra wants to wear hotpants and a visible thong, that's her choice. Lots of girls wear clothes like that."

"It makes sense in game context, because she is a nearly immortal artificial being and doesn't need clothes to protect her. Also something something Rex's character arc something something."

"It's a Japanese game, why are you criticizing Japanese culture?"

"Plenty of males show off their skin in video games. Pyra in booty shorts is EXACTLY the same as that shirtless dude from that other game."

"There are plenty of visual novels that appeal to the gay demographic, also let me give you another example that has absolutely nothing to do with video games."

"Censorship is bad, why are you asking for censorship?"

"Nobody forced you to play the game. If you don't like it, don't buy it."

"I for one am a red-blooded male and I LOVE this game for its brave choices, glad Nintendo didn't bend the knee to these SJWs, feminists, soyboys and assorted other enemies of the state. I'm going to buy ten more copies of this and SK Reflexions just to show them."

And the old standby, "I'm not the problem, YOU'RE the problem!!"

Wht happened to dem legs?

@AJWolfTill Only one point where I disagree with you while I agree with the rest.

"Putting a super sexualised outfit on a character whose personality is shy and naive as opposed to one who revels in the attention just seems predatory to me."

So basically you are saying every shy/naive person in the world would not wear a "sexualised" outfit? Being shy is someone who could not show their true likes to someone....well because they are afraid to. And someone being Naive could like these "sexualised" outfits, but don't see it as sexual to them.

So no I don't say it is predatory unless it is clear that it is predatory.

@SamirMalik

A "maturing Rex" is no reason to give Pyra the outfit she has. I love her personality, she's a great character. That isn't the thing I have a problem with.

@SamirMalik Yep I agree with you about that. About #45 comment on this thread.

@IceEarthGuard

You just said that someone who is shy wouldn't want to express themselves to others, so why on earth would she wear the get up she has? I'm telling you as someone who only recently got over his shyness a couple of years ago, the last thing I would have worn back then is something that brought attention to me.

@Frenean For herself/himself obviously....inside their house for example where no one can see. Like a secret.

Very nice freebie. I wonder when I will play through the game again. I imagine I will play through XC2 many times over the coming years. I've only put 300 hours into it so far, after all. #bestgameonSwitch

I've never seen a company make an official censored artwork of a character in cross over game an official outfit in the main game to curb the complaints that it's not the way it was in the source material.

So much DLC to get for a game I haven't even brought yet.
I'll need a comprehensive guide so I'll know when and where to get and do everything.

@Shiryu You're my hero Shiryu

My question is do we have to update the patch. If we do can we decide to skip the DLC costume? I love her original look.

Would have been great if you had the choice of which outfit to wear on both games. It still seems shoehorned in because of the lack of choice in smash, and because the new outfit isn't her main one the first place. (yes, probably due to target age ratings)

The only good news here, is that they actually tried to integrate it to the main game/story.