Lots of (usually very angry) people want Waluigi to be a playable character in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. We know it, you know it, the poor souls working as Nintendo forum moderators definitely know it, and even game creator Masahiro Sakurai knows it, but that hasn't stopped fans taking every possible opportunity to express their Waluigi-based desires.
While some specific situations have certainly got out of hand in the past - including a saddening level of harassment aimed at Sakurai himself - there are also those at Nintendo who view the whole thing in a very positive light.
One such figure is Nintendo of Canada's Communications Manager, Andrew Collins, who has explained his own feelings on the passion expressed by Waluigi fans. Speaking to Okay, Cool, Collins took the time to answer a question about the fans' response to the character being excluded from the game.
"I think it’s great when something builds naturally because, you know, as a marketer, when you have something that goes viral like that it’s brilliant. You can’t buy that. You can’t create it. And when the fans do something like that, it’s amazing. But it’s so good to see from a passionate side of things. And let’s face it, it’s funny.
I’ve seen some of the photos. I’ve seen some of the artwork that people have created, and it’s fantastic to see their passion. And, you know, there are some gifted people out there."
So, while going as far as to believe that the presence of a couple of chairs signified the character's potential inclusion is slightly optimistic, the passion and dedication to the franchise are appreciated all the same.
You should feel free to express your innermost desires for the character's future, but please Waluigi-hype responsibly.
[source okaycool.ca]
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Waluigi was a mistake.
Silly PR people, confusing sarcasm for actual excitement again.
Kinda wonder if Waluigi will ever make it into Smash as a playable fighter.
Waluigi's Absence on Mario Kart 7 was also like a "Crime", despite Waluigi was not my favorite character.
I do not get Waluigi at all, hes just a cheap knock off of Odlaw from Where's Wally
Waluigi will almost certainly get his own game now i think, regardless of if he becomes a Smash character or not, i'd actually quite like him to get a stealth game, it's a genre Nintendo have never really tried before and Waluigi would be the perfect character for that style of game.
If not that then at least let him be the main villain in the inevitable Luigi's Mansion 3 lol
I think it's hideously unfair to categorize fans of any character as "(usually very angry)".
They'd be very inspired to make Waluigi a secret unlock when you platinium the game !
‘And let’s face it, it’s funny.’
Do I look like I’m laughing?
I don’t care as much about his exclusion in Smash, but it’s a shame Waluigi hasn’t gotten his own game yet - even just a little eShop game. I’m a fan of the character (I know, I know).
I would just like to see waluigi developed by his own game or something... people complaining that he isnt a real character are ignoring the fact he hasnt had his fair chance.
Big Waluigi fan here. He's my main on Mario Tennis and would surely be one of my mains in Smash. He looks funny, walks funny and makes funny sounds,just an all round funny guy. Those wishing for him to be omitted just to spite those who are asking for him to be added is just as sad as those who are kicking up a fuss.
Not a Waluigi fan, but if he makes a smash appearance that would be cool. Wario is in the game, why not include Waluigi too.
I’d be shocked if he wasn’t suddenly “added” because the fans asked for it.
It all smells of PR now....
Nintendo doesn’t know what a meme is. It’s really sad.
Waluigi is the Nintendo equivalent to the guy who minds Mark Fowler's stall for the afternoon or the guy who takes Data's place flying the Enterprise. He's a stand in plot device with no real back story.
And the Internet loves to elevate these sorts of characters abover their station for humourous effect.
@BLD looks at your avatar, re-reads your comment Ok. Lol.
That's cute, still hope that he doesn't get into Smash Bros. Them putting him in will essentially give the message that if you harass the developers enough, they'll eventually cave in and give in to your demands which would not bode well in the future. It's at least nice though that all the civil Waluigi fans are getting their interest in the character noticed.
Most things stop being funny once people start sending death-threats, unfortunately.
@CrimsonMoonMist Everyone knows twitter death threats are meaningless. And I'll kill myself if you disagree.
This will be the most unpopular comment, but I'm a fan of Waluigi.
@Syrek24
I have to wonder where you get your statistics from here. "the majority of his fanbase are just cancerous".
Have you ever seen those comments on news articles or the like, usually articles about an ISIS terrorist attack or something. And some moron in the comments will screech "Hah, see? Now I don't hate all Muslims or anything- I'm no racist! BUT, it's undeniable that most of them are cancerous!" That's what you sound like.
If you're about to say "whoa dude why did you just take the conversation there", ask yourself why it's OK to make sweeping generalizations about one group and not another.
Crazy thought, 99.99% of people who like Waluigi, who like any character or anything, are probably not "cancerous". But do you really want to hear a news story about "Waluigi fan #6350 makes quiet dinner at home"?
@AdReNaLiNFaLc0n So are some of our greatest scientific achievements. Waluigi for life!
@CrimsonMoonMist Agreed, it should stay as a bit of fun.
And let's admit it, both words are euphemisms.
@Syrek24 You do know that 'abuse' amounted to two people tweeting right? You're going to hate an entire fanbase for the actions of two people? That's ludicrous. I don't want Waluigi in, but to hate people who like him for some overblown ideal about tweets you probably didn't even read is so out there.
If I had to chose another Mario rep it would be E. Gadd over Waluigi.
@CrimsonMoonMist @Syrek24 @Tarolusa @Syrek24 Sakurai was never harassed. It was a couple of young teens (Who later apologized even) being stupid. Of course when the media picked up on it all Waluigi fans got thrown under the bus with them. The amount of people getting notably angry over Waluigi's absence or harassing Sakurai is incredibly small, yet as with literally any fanbase, sadly seem to get the most attention. It's a shame when entire fanbases become hated because of the few bad apples.
For the record, I'm pretty big Waluigi fan, but I honestly don't think he'll get in Smash any time soon. He needs at least one game of his own first.
Personally, I've always thought it was all about a joke. Trolling, If you will. I think only very few people truly like Waluigi, most are in it like "lol, he is a terrible character, let's make it look like a lot of people long for him to be in Smash"
Maybe I just misunderstood yet another heated debate on The Internet ™️
@mystman12 I understand it was only a small section of the fanbase but they still harassed him enough to get banned. Yeah they apologised afterwards but that doesn't changed the fact that they still harassed and should have known better. I do agree that it's a real shame that the entire Waluigi fanbase gets clumped together and all get portrayed in a negative light. 95% of the Waluigi fanbase are chill people and it's a shame that they have to be tagged with a negative stigma just because of a few idiots.
It is funny. Look at any of the brawl in the family guy’s YouTube videos on it.
Daisy’s still better.
If Waluigi gets his own game, I want them to honor a one off joke from Gamepro magazine in the N64 era. “Waluigi’s Repo Depot”
Looking at it humorously, it's like the love Luigi used to never get and everyone used to get so up in arms until Luigi's mansion came out so Luigi could stop being a "Player 2" kind of character
Nintendo knew how much people cared about Luigi until it culminated into a "Year of Luigi", which I thought was great for our favorite younger Super sibling. Respect at last.
Now for Waluigi, he simply was a "why not?" extension of the running gag of Wario being Mario evil twin, so Nintendo found it funny to give everyone's favorite understudy his evil twin. Fair enough. But oddly, Nintendo hasn't thought all this time to either give him his own game, let him join the WarioWare cast at least, or even co-star in a game with his un-bro Wario for Super Wario Bros. fun (a la WarioLand-ish). So... he remains a "Player 2 evil twin", relegated to only compete in Mario spin off titles.
Now for the Waluigi fan in me. He shows up for competitions, eh? Well, he's been in pretty much every one of Mario's personal one's, just hasn't competed in "Nintendo's competition" game known as SSB. Heck, even Hyrule and Animal Crossing have come to visit Mario Kart turning Mario Kart practically into "Nintendo Kart" now, so there's one reason it should be easy for Waluigi to be playable in SSB. Sadly, I do agree with one point: Waluigi has yet to star or co-star in a mainline Mario or mainline Wario game, which represent the two major universes he could/would hail from. If he only at least co-starred in a Super Mario game, WarioWare, or WarioLand game at the very least, he'd be acceptable to be playable in SSB, so I can see the logic. Luigi's been co-starring in Mario's mainline games forever and starred in his own. MetaKnight has co-starred in many Kirby mainline games. The titular Zelda speaks for herself, same as the Pokemon... on and on.
I'll say this: While I don't think we'll get a playable Waluigi in SSBU, I DO think Nintendo realize the interest has hit fever pitch and are currently working on either Waluigi's first starring role or first co-starring role in a major game (Please be something akin to Super Wario Bros.). And THAT will net him a shoe-in for SSB6. Til then, it'll be the "Player 2 Luigi treatment" for Waluigi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ0iTDafXuM
and when Waluigi DLC happens - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-J8akT3ndo
p.s. don't get me wrong, i don't think Daisy took his spot, i have nothing against her, she is a tomboy, wich is a fresh take on the princess stereo type
but Waluigi to me is by far the funniest mario character, his voice makes me laugh, his actions make me laugh, everything about him i just find funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ0iTDafXuM
and when Waluigi DLC happens - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-J8akT3ndo
p.s. don't get me wrong, i don't think Daisy took his spot, i have nothing against her, she is a tomboy, wich is a fresh take on the princess stereo type
but Waluigi to me is by far the funniest mario character, his voice makes me laugh, his actions make me laugh, everything about him i just find funny
I love when people say that Waluigi would have a boring moveset. Like, take into account all the sports games he's in. Baseball, tennis, golf, soccer, basketball.... you can easily make him into a character that is kinda weak, but have a super long range, throwing all those balls and proyectiles. Not to mention all the olympic games he has participated. I can imagine his recovery being him swimming in the air.
ALSO, you know what Mario series has no representation in Smash yet....Mario Party. There you can fill in all the rest.
I get why people hate the idea of including him now, after the threats and harassing and all the obnoxious "fans", but he shoulda been added to Smash this time. He has the potential, even without a game of his own. I mean, Daisy made it!
Just watch, at next year's E3, Nintendo will announce a brand new game starring Waluigi... exclusively for Nintendo 3DS, and launching long after the internet has moved on to newer and increasingly vapid and insipid memes.
@Syrek24
"You’re comparing someone who makes generalization of a Nintendo side character and it’s fanbase to the extremists of the internet who are racist bigots."
Because both are spawned from the same ignorance, the same propensity to generalize an entire group because they share a common cause, religion or desire.
@InvisiBulbasaur
I don't understand this mindset, either. The idea that wanting Waluigi is some new meme fad. It isn't. He's been vocally wanted for Smash ever since Wario got in. Hacks to put him in the game date back to nearly a decade ago.
@AdReNaLiNFaLc0n
I prefer to think of him as a happy little WAHccident.
@TheOpponent
While he is indeed putting on the corporate voice, the people clamouring for Waluigi are not NOT having a good time and making fun things, helping to get meme culture talking about Smash Bros.
Waluigi memesters seem to mostly be genuinely excited for the game, whether or not they really think Waluigi ought to be in there.
We don't need Waluigi we need Dan Backslide!
http://pm1.narvii.com/6573/175e96ce579e56f74086f328b41350889352e4b3_00.jpg
@Yosher In Smash 7 or 8 when there's a roster of 100+ characters, they might have to start scraping around the bottom of the barrel, where Waluigi has been patiently waiting.
@NIN10DOXD Their poor attempts on Twitter reinforces that.
Wario is in the Mario Universe.... Waluigi is in the Mario Universe....
Wario has his own games... Waluigi should have his own games
Wario is in.... Waluigi should be in... the end...
@NewAdvent You could say that about Daisy but we got her this time.
Waluigi? Please...
Hey guys just a reminder that literally only 2 people were harassing Sakurai and they were teenagers and that literally NOBODY was sending death threats. Please do your research before making claims like this.
I didn’t know Waluigi actually had it like that honestly. Everyone always ask for King K. Rool and the main guy on Golden Sun. Maybe Waluigi could appear playable some day.
Hey we have baby versions of the Mario cast, I say why not have the evil Mirror Universe versions too?
I support Waluigi for Smash.
@Teksetter What have you done, don't give them ideas! lol
@Varubajia
Oh yikes, you're probably right! Someone in Kyoto is now busily designing evil Yoshi, evil Peach, and the anti- Baby Mario (Baby Wario?) for Smash DLC.
Wouldnt it be awful if they still snubbed Waluigi?!
Purely for symmetry's sake, we have the anti-Mario, please give us the anti-Luigi!
He's an ok character, but I'm more a fan of Baby Pink Gold Tanooki Daisy.
@BLD
Oh, I know Waluigi has fans who genuinely want to play as him in Smash. I'm not saying that everyone asking for his inclusion on the roster is only joking.
And I'm sure that Waluigi's Community Service for Nintendo 3DS would sell more than a few copies.
What I'm saying is that the main reason why Waluigi's exclusion from the roster and his role as an assist trophy has caused so much of an uproar, and why the story has received so much attention from gaming news outlets over the past few months isn't because Waluigi is an insanely popular character who got snubbed in favor of niche characters like Ridley and K. Rool. It's because a lot of people think it's funny to act like they feel that Waluigi was unfairly rejected and disgraced. Hence the Washington Post articles with titles like "Waluigi was robbed and humiliated by Nintendo, and his fans are furious". It's a joke. A meme.
I've been keeping up with Smash speculation since the Brawl era. The size of Waluigi's fan base has always been comparable to Krystal, Tingle, and Lyn. In other words, his fellow assist fighters. Just popular enough to have a small role in the game, but not enough to make the roster.
It wasn't until very recently that Waluigi gained so much attention online. Because to a lot of people, it's a meme, like "Shrek for Smash" was back in 2015.
@Varubajia
Do what--?!
Why, Wario's Super Horrible 3D World, of course!
With Waluigi as playable 2p! ^_^
@Toadie There's a pretty cool fan-game called Psycho Waluigi that has been around the internet for many years. Plus, it's free.
Meanwhile, I'm thankful for Marioking64DS' excellent Waluigi mod with his excellent move set.
What would be fantastic is if there is no mention of Waluigi and he is kept hidden from the public right up until Smash launches, when it is then revealed he is a part of the roster.
I'd imagine that would go viral pretty quick.
This whole topic is gaming at its absolute worst. Uggh. So many losers.
Everybody has his opinion nowadays. & most part of the internet is toxic.
If you're not into it, than just don't comment.. toxic people..
Waluigi is one of my favorite characters to ride since Mario Kart Double Dash and started because of the personal special item: bomb. + I liked his form better than Wario's.
& I'm truly dissapointed he never made it as playable character in Smash bros. because I know I would choose him over Wario.
He could have some really sneaky moves.
But yeah most people always go for the obvious, in spotlight, character.
Waluigi could really thrive as a character if he got some background to give him more dimension. Even a whole different kind of game could work.
I don’t care, been playing smash since n64 and I’m just exited for it as I always am. My 8 year old, who also is incredibly excited for it, who kicks my butt all the time and will be next to me watching tommorows direct, has commented to me about wanting Waluigi and wonders why he isn’t included. Just saying...
There's no reason at all that Walyigi will not be in Smash. He's as important as all others.
Wish Birdo had a fanbase...
@NewAdvent very little character? Are you kidding me?
Waluigi would be fantastic to play as but I’m not up in ARMS (Spring Man playable or riot) about his exclusion.
And for those saying that he has no moveset potential: I’m pretty sure Sakurai doesn’t look at “moveset potential.” If he did, Wii Fit Trainer, Duck Hunt, Captain Falcon (probably), Dr. Mario, etc wouldn’t be playable.
@Kinoen Birdo would be fantastic as a Yoshi echo. (I’ve thought it over and it would work if they replaced Yoshi’s tongue with an inhaling move similar to Kirby)
@Syrek24 Agreed.
Most Waluigi fans are nice people, stop focusing only on the bad ones.
The problem, is that even though they are nice, we eventually get sick of them, get over it, wait for 5/6 years for the next Super Smash Bros. game, or at least DLC for Ultimate to save a few Assist Trophies.
Also, theres something they didn't do much to change, like Honest Trailers said, people made such a fuss for Waluigi not being playable in Smash Ultimate, but there's something much worse, Waluigi was never in a Wario game.
In 2018's WarioWare Gold, Waluigi finally made an appearance in a Wario game, but just as an amiibo painting, aside from that, Waluigi never made any kind of appearance in a Wario game.
My favourite Mario reps for Smash:
1. Pauline (I'm surprised she is not a fighter, but I guess it's Daisy's turn now)
2. Toad/Toadette (with Captain Toad/Captain Toadette costume)
3. Waluigi
Yes, I pick Waluigi third, even though I had Shy Guy on that spot for the longest time. It's not because of the games, but because of the fans. Digging into the topic I saw plenty of Waluigi fans being funny and very dedicated, not angry or toxic. I know people that love and play Waluigi on every Mario Kart, Mario Party, and Mario Sports game. He's kind of an outcast, and that's one of the appealing parts about him.
Maybe I have to put Shy Guy #4 (and Kamek #5) towards Yoshi characters and not Mario characters anyway.
I vote for baby Peach.
Every fanbase has good, and bad fans. Some fanbases have more of one kind, than the other. I like Waluigi, especially since I am a Luigi fan. The character does need to be playable, as a starring, or co-starring character. The counter-argument for that being a pre-requisite is Daisy has not ever been in her own game, just playable in many Mario games.
As a long time fan of Waluigi, I do feel like he has had a deeper character than the meme of him leads on. Would I love him in Smash? Yes. Do I expect it? Not even soon, sadly.
Which is amusing the polarization the news of the two people tweeting him has made the Nintendo fandom surrounding Waluigi. It's almost comparable of having a political discussion on the internet; You don't engage or you're labeled. No fact checks, no discussion. You're either against him ever being in Smash or you're the hateful lot who threatens people that he isnt in Smash.
That being said, I digress to say I believe Waluigi needs a more cemented role, period. Why can't he and Wario play the villain role in a Mario game for once? Why can't he even side with his partner in crime in Warioware? He just feels more actively ignored as a character than one passively forgotten like Daisy (which I reserve the belief she has less of a following than Waluigi).
All said and done, the memes that came from his playable exclusion were pretty dank.
There are a lot of "Nintendo doesn't understand memes!!!!!1" comments here. The real problem? Neither does a lot of the internet. Waluigi is hilarious as meme material but complete trash-tier as an actual character and some people are LEGITIMATELY upset about him not being in because they don't understand the meme side of the Waluigi fanbase and have taken it to actual rabbid fandom. It's like watching flat earth trolls who have convinced other flat earthers to believe even harder the earth is flat.
There are a lot of "Nintendo doesn't understand memes!!!!!1" comments here. The real problem? Neither does a lot of the internet. Waluigi is hilarious as meme material but complete trash-tier as an actual character and some people are LEGITIMATELY upset about him not being in because they don't understand the meme side of the Waluigi fanbase and have taken it to actual rabbid fandom. It's like watching flat earth trolls who have convinced other flat earthers to believe even harder the earth is flat.
There are a lot of "Nintendo doesn't understand memes!!!!!1" comments here. The real problem? Neither does a lot of the internet. Waluigi is hilarious as meme material but complete trash-tier as an actual character and some people are LEGITIMATELY upset about him not being in because they don't understand the meme side of the Waluigi fanbase and have taken it to actual rabbid fandom. It's like watching flat earth trolls who have convinced other flat earthers to believe even harder the earth is flat.
There are a lot of "Nintendo doesn't understand memes!!!!!1" comments here. The real problem? Neither does a lot of the internet. Waluigi is hilarious as meme material but complete trash-tier as an actual character and some people are LEGITIMATELY upset about him not being in because they don't understand the meme side of the Waluigi fanbase and have taken it to actual rabbid fandom. It's like watching flat earth trolls who have convinced other flat earthers to believe even harder the earth is flat.
The tissue boxes where sold out day one. So many cry babys with bubbles of snot 😂🤣 I laughed really hard at some of the comments.
We need waluigi.
@MH4
hmm...I can't fully see her being an Echo of Yoshi though. For one, she can't flutter kick, I can't see her using her head as an attack, I'm pretty sure her mouth only spits so I don't think it could be used as a grab or egg lay, pretty sure she also can't use egg roll or Yoshi Bomb.
I don't really see the similarities between the two outside of being dinosaurs that attack with eggs...but hey, if Sakurai can make it work, I'll take it if it means Birdo gets in.
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