Panic Button Dreams Of Porting Horizon Zero Dawn To Nintendo Switch

Only one game I can think of...... Grand theft auto.
Don't care for fps games and realistic games are just boring

Panic Button has done a wonderful job with the Switch and continues supporting it.Great to see games like horizon on switch.The games I would like to see from panic button are GTA,AC Collection and Mafia.

@Whatdidyousay Yeah GTA I would love on Switch. Either GTA V or San Andreas. Hell porting both would be a dream

Hell if they keep their QA up when it comes to developing games. They will game more work to port games over. Now what do I want ported over...HD remake of the Prime Series.

Isn't Horizon Dawn a first party game by Sony?

Also I wouldn't buy it again in switch as Its a really boring game to me.

You guys should see the sass over at Push Square's side. It's hilarious

Horizon Zero Dawn is a great game and it would certainly be an interesting experiment even if it would likely be a step too far for the Switch

@liljmoore Yep. Sony owns Guerrilla Games. It would be the same as asking to see Fire Emblem on the PS4.

From a technical standpoint it probably could be done. In reality however Sony owns it and would never allow it. Microsoft would port the Halo Trilogy to Switch before Sony would let Horizon Zero Dawn get ported anywhere else.

No thanks we already have Zelda which is what that game wishes it could be.

@Rika_Yoshitake HZD has really great storytelling and visuals. However, I dislike it's battle mechanics and the world is less interactive than Breath of the Wild's.

@sanderev "HZD has really great storytelling and visuals. However, I dislike it's battle mechanics and the world is less interactive than Breath of the Wild's."
I'm kinda interested in HZD, but it sounds like a pretty typical first party game from Sony, emphasizing cinematics over gameplay.

We need an open world game action game such as gta v ... Mafia 3 or watchdogs 2. Any of these will do panic button.

@roboshort It does for a bit, gameplay wise it's not better than an average Assassin's Creed game. However the world is big and there is a lot to do in the game, and it's still a very good game.

Just nowhere NEAR Breath of the Wild.

What would I like to see? Fallout 3, with all dlc. I would absolutely play a game 10 years old that I beat the heck out of.

Would love to see them porting Bioshock collection, Batman Arkham series and GTA V.

I would like to see the more recent Assassins Creed games and other Ubisoft opem World games. I loved Zelda and having an open World in my hands with Switch. Sadly, it doesnt seem devs very fast or confident to push more games like that on Switch at least yet

Horizon Trillion Sunset, that's the title when ported to Switch. Btw, Switch's OS is called Horizon... some Switch gamers aren't even aware of it.

I have HZD on PS4. I have yet to play it since I got other games I need to play at the moment. I’ll get to it eventually.

Way down the list for me. Talk to Bethesda about Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Morrowind.

@sanderev Thanks for the reply. BOTW was a truly brilliant game so I don't really expect many games to be as good as it. I may give HZD a try one of these days.

@EightBitMan So is Street Fighter I, superior to Street Fighter II because it’s more original? (

@EightBitMan One developer wishing to port a game to Switch proves none of that. I mean, it doesn't appear they were asked which Switch game they would like to port to other systems. How you made that connection is baffling to me. Sony, Nintendo, Panic Button, and all other game companies are in it to make money, which HZD did. It's not some charity...

I love a good RTS so would like to see Blizzard hand the conversion of Starcraft 2 to Panic Button for the Switch. Probably never happen though

"...the team would like to see more ***retro*** games ported across to the Nintendo’s hybrid platform in the future. "

Metroid Prime Trilogy Confirmed!

@EightBitMan Believe it or not. The PlayStation Division within Sony is pretty much keeping Sony afloat these days. So of course they pull out all the stops to keep the PlayStation on top and relevant.

Horizon Zero Dawn is a friggin' amazing game! I absolutely loved it. Still haven't finished it. Same with God of War. Such an amazing game!
Sony is really nailing it with this console generation. It has all the best exclusives.

I also have the Xbox One X and love this console. It's an amazing piece of hardware, but Microsoft is failing hard in the exclusive games department. Too many delays with their games lately, like the now infamous CrackDown 3 that is yet again delayed with another year. :-/

I played Horizon Zero Dawn several months after Zelda BotW and HZD definitely wins in my opinion. The story is more interesting, there’s more enemy variety, there are actually good side quests and better fighting mechanics in it. I played HZD about 55 hrs as compared to BotW for around 110, but I think HZD provided the overall better experience. I think Sony 1st Party games are better than Nintendo

@EightBitMan

Can't say I agree. I'm not really a fanboy of anything but Fire Emblem, and I passionately hate the Zelda franchise because I've always found the games boring (despite having played them all because I like giving franchises new chances every now and then)... But saying that Breath of the Wild is an overglorified empty sandbox with no story?

Did you even play the game man? The game is so rich in story it is insane. It's told throughout npcs, cutscenes, and items mainly, but also through visual elements found throughout the game.

In fact, it's split on different planes of story, and part of it is you witnessing what your original failure to stop Ganon has done to the world.

It's not empty at all either. It's full of life, and there are plenty of NPCs. Both good and evil ones, too. Your description of it literally makes me think you've never played it, because it completely contradicts the entire game.

Either way, Breath of the Wild is to date the first Zelda game I thoroughly enjoyed, because of its amazing story, its vibrant, lively world, and because of its interesting spin on a franchise that, in my opinion, had been done to death at that point in time.

I don't care for arguing what games are best, but at the very least, it stands as an equal to The Witcher 3 and Horizon Zero Dawn. Yes, I've played both. In fact, I've played through all 3 of these games more than twice each. They're all similar in places, but at the same time very different, which makes it hard to compare them. If I had to choose a top 3 based on enjoyment and how well executed I think the game was, it's this:

1. Breath of the Wild
2. Horizon Zero Dawn
3. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt.

Breath of the Wild was simply mindblowing, while the other two came close at times. I'd say the gameplay of HZD was the best, while The Witcher 3's horse riding was what stood out the least to me, and it lost heavily to Breath of the Wild's. Story-wise... They're 3 very different games.
It wouldn't be fair to say one had the superior story.

Breath of the Wild's physics engine and world interaction was absolutely genius and is by far the most outstanding element I experienced.
There was nothing more satisfying than turning my previously untrustworthy "ship" (raft) into a makeshift zeppelin, only for a nasty bokoblin to realize he was born with the same skill as Legolas of Lord of the Rings - ending my reign of terror before my plans could come to fruition with a "pop" sound being the last thing I heard before I fell to my death.

They're great games, and I don't care much for commenting on stealing ideas from each other, but in my opinion, as long as we get great games out of it, I couldn't care less.

@Blizzia
Don't bother responding. It's pretty clear EightBitMan is only here to bash and completely discredit Nintendo's success.

Anyone who thinks Breath of the Wild is an "empty game" has clearly never played it. Given that EightBitMan says he/she doesn't own any consoles, it is pretty clear he/she hasn't played the game and is claiming it is an "empty game" because it is a Nintendo game.

Starting it soon on my PlayStation. I know it's great.

I have much respect for Panic Button!

@EightBitMan Why are you on this page if you hate Nintendo so much? In every comment I see you hating on Nintendo, saying they haven't been relevant since SNES and other stupid things.

Can it be that you're actually here just to troll? Yeah, I think that must be the case. If someone here sounds like a fanboy, it's you. I wonder if you share some DNA with a certain @gatorboi ...?

I'm putting you on ignore now, as you are the type of user that only brings hatred and venom to the discussions here. I hope you come to your senses and go to another gaming page better suited for your taste, like a PC community. Trolling like this is pathetic anyway, especially if you're an adult. I don't understand why some people think it's fun to go to forums about things they dislike and write trash like you do. I would never go to, say, a football forum and write hateful things about the sport and calling the other users fanboys, just because I dislike football and the others don't. That would be extremely pathetic, just as pathetic as what you're doing now, @EightBitMan. I would understand if you were twelve or younger, but sadly I don't think that's the case.

On topic: HZD looks cool. I've just played it a little bit in a gaming store, but it seemed really creative. But as has already been stated, it's a Sony exclusive.

Port the Final Fantasy series!!!!!

Quite possible in an alternate reality where Sony decides to license its titles to Switch for a portability option rather than bother with portable hardware again themselves.

What? I did say "alternate reality". Although the second part appears true enough for ours, too.

@EightBitMan you're so salty it's downright hysterical.

I love how everyone is trying to discredit EightBitMan's comment even though he's 100% right and are calling him salty even though they're far more salty. XD

Retro games huh. Hmmm...I reckon port the Xeno series over to Switch so they are all under one roof

I'd really love Panic Button to port over the Mass Effect trilogy, IF EA ever get round to releasing a remastered collection. For now though, there's the fan 2-4k texture mods on PC which do a good job.

@Equinox silly, silly boy.

I never clicked with HZD. Good game no doubt but just didn't do anything for me. Got bored halfway through.

@EightBitMan I bet you're a right laugh at parties.

they should port red dead redemption and red dead redemption undead nightmare. then after they should do red dead redemption 2

@Rika_Yoshitake While BOTW is undoubtedly the better overall game the world and characters felt felt very flat when compared with those in HZD. Obviously a technical limitation of the Switch but how I wish for the depth of BOTW with the visuals and character acting or HZD.

@carlos82 But i would love them to try. It would be so funny if they could make a good port that remained graphically faithful to the original just to have the jaws of fanboys everywhere drop.
If they could do that it would finally bury that aggravating argument that the Switch it so underpowerd. Yes, i know it is underpowered compared to the current consoles but it has already had some great and beautiful games released.
That argument bothers me because companies either use it as justification why they will not develop for the Switch or they deliver a subpar effort.

Horizon Zero Dawn is a fantastic game, and I'll just leave it at that.

If it's a challenge they're looking for, maybe they should try the full FFXV. SE is struggling even with the new Dragon Quest, I have no faith they'd manage the former.

How about a port of Soul Calibur 6.

In my opinion Switch and PS4 aren't even the same species any more. PS4 games are generally built to be visual novels in high res sandboxes with a low level of difficulty to mask a slightly iffy control system, where Switch and Nintendo as a whole is about the core gameplay mechanics with tight as hotpants controls to take on various levels of difficulty from kid friendly all the way into twitch gaming button presses, but with a work around making too much issue over story and dialogue (due to it being a Japanese product for the rest of the world), and more economical graphics.

Each platform does what it sets out to do pretty well, but the differences are apples or oranges compared to Braeburn or Golden Delicious.

Lets agree the that both consoles are good for each type of gamer that loves them, and point out XB1 is the real ropey console.

it won't work

I really need my GTA scratch itched on the Switch. Please, please, please, Panic.

No man´s Sky. I know it´s not being loved by many but I think that´d be a great title for the switch. I love the idea to literally have a whole universe in your hands.

@liljmoore same, I thought it would be fun like breath of the wild but I ended up getting bored and never finished it. That’s just me though I’m sure others feel the same with Zelda.

I’d love a port of Witcher 3 or FF. Both games have been out long enough that a port could be feasible. I’m a RPG guy so the more on the Switch the merrier. Would love Metal Gear on Switch too. Phantom Pain/Ground Zeros on the go? Yes, please! And of course GTA V. It’s shocking to me it hasn’t been ported to Switch already.

@EightBitMan "comes nowhere near titles like the majestic The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt" Jesus christ,i beat and liked the Witcher 3. But no way this game is considered "majestic". You're just brown nosing now.

I'd like someone to get their hands on Persona 3-5 please. I think these would be a perfect match for the Switch.

@EightBitMan some very strong opinions from someone who admittedly doesn’t even have a console. I’ve played HZD & BotW and both are fantastic. Sure, some prefer one over the other but for anyone to act like either game isn’t a near masterpiece for its current system is crazy.

@EightBitMan

you missed the PS3 years. what an utter mess that was until the very end. they were rightfully smacked back into their place and they made the ps4.

microsoft did a dummy and went from the great 360 to that mess of the xb1.

N still hasn't recovered from their poor decisions leading up and beyond the N64.

@EightBitMan While I do agree in some parts of your statement, I disagree that BotW isn't memorable...and The Witcher 3, while beautiful and memorable, the combat is horrid and it almost ruins the game itself. If The Witcher 3 had the mechanics of BotW it would pure gold.

Absolutely love Horizon, would even put it a tick above BOTW all things considered. Both are terrific games though and trying to tear either one down to prop up the other is just immature and nonsensical.

@Supadav03 how does both of them being out a while make it easier to port to Switch? Both games are very taxing on the CPU and have needed multiple patches to get them running close to a 30fps lock on those consoles, no way the Switch could run them

@ktej75 It'd be incredible if that could be achieved, the Switch being underpowered is always a strange argument as it's the most powerful handheld we've ever had. 3rd parties should focus on creating games specifically for it as it has a big enough user base that is ever increasing. Octopath Traveller is a great example of this and if Square wants extra sales port it to PS4 and PC later and make even more money

@carlos82 True. Maybe they dont correlate 1-to-1. Just thinking (and maybe incorrectly since I know nothing of actually making games) that the longer something is out the easier to port. I mean, I’d think last years COD or something similar would be easier to port to Switch than this year’s release. So time should play some factor, no?

@pipapaul I want No Man's Sky too. Luckily, we're getting Megaton Rainfall soon! The space exploration in that game looks super neat.

Yeah, that's not going to happen. Why don't we ask for the Uncharted Series too!

My vote would be for Fallout 4. Fallout 3 is probably one of my favorite games. I put hundreds of hours into that game on my 360. But I never picked up Fallout 4 despite owning a PS4. That type of game would be great on the Switch on the go. I wouldn't buy it again but another great series to tackle for the Switch would be Bioshock.

Ever since I saw a video comparing physics and other things between Horizon and BotW, I've been reluctant to try out Horizon. It proves the developers prioritized pretty backdrops over actual substance. Yeah, it may have a good story according to the internet, but I can't get immersed in it if I don't feel like I'm affecting the world around me besides scripted targets.

That's a problem I have with 1st party Sony games in general. They look beautiful, sure, but they end up being very linear experiences, and everything is dumbed down just to get the player to see each set piece, just like a movie. That would be great if the gameplay met the same level as the scenery, but it simply cannot compare in most cases. So you're stuck with interactive movies on PS4, or solid gameplay mechanics on Switch. At least the Xbox 1 has crossplay with one of those...

I'd mention PC, but all I have is a laptop that barely runs Subnautica, so that's not an option.

@MrGawain X1 isn't ropey, it's just a cheap gaming laptop without a screen X1 (or PC) for multiplat PC games, PS4 for cinematic adventures, Switch for arcade style core gameplay (and endless RPGs...)

@Majora101 Dishonored barely runs well on a PC let alone Switch

Yes please!!

Port wish list: Mass Effect Trilogy; Bioshock trilogy; Fallout 3, 4, or Vegas; Witcher 3; or Dishonored

@onex Just because Sony FP pump millions and millions of $$$ into graphics doesn't mean they are any less of a game. They are fantastic games and are super lush on top.

On topic: This would never happen and I don't get this Zelda vs Horizon debate. Completely different games.

Wolfenstein The New Order would be nice too.

@Whatdidyousay Isn't that contradictory? Grand Theft Auto is both a 3rd person shooter and a 1st person shooter, as well as a realistic game. Have you actually seen GTA at all?

@Blizzia What you described it's not a "story" it's lore.

@Supadav03 I can see how you're thinking as generally the further you are into a generation, the more developers get out of a console and in some cases it could be true. Open world games are more demanding on the CPU than other genres and having being built for those consoles and PC the gap back down to Switch is much tougher to bridge than games limited by GPU, where you could turn down graphics settings and such for big gains. For example on Xbox One X The Witcher 3 has a performance mode which unlocks the framerate and even with it's mighty GPU and12gb of ram it goes from a locked 60fps in the opening area to barely 40fps in around Novigrad City and that's with an 8 core jaguar CPU at 2.3ghz, that drop is purely due to the CPU so Switch has very little chance.

Unfortunately due to its design modern open world games will always be a weakness for Switch though GTA V should work due to its last gen origins and there is a rumour that some form of the mobile FFXV may come to the Switch too. Ideally though we need games made from scratch with the Switch in mind

Biomutant and The Witcher 3 would be my top 2 picks.

@EightBitMan Sony is in trouble, Playstation is now. Different entities now.

sighs Panic Button wanting to do awesome stuff, and everyone is saying no. lol

Why is Sony being so stubborn these days?

@EightBitMan Botw isn't a glorified sandbox at all, it takes a lot of effort to make games like these and to say it's just a glorified sandbox game is extremely questionable.......Both games are amazing, and one excels the other in different departments. BoTW is better in gameplay, HZD is better in story. Of course nobody is going to ever take me seriously and make a pointless week long argument about how one is better than the other and say BoTW is over glorified and HZD is trash. I don't see how BoTW is over glorified at all or that HZD is bad but oh well some things never change, it sounds like you're biased

@Equinox So it's automatically bad because it has a female protagonist that's a clone of a scientist that worked on the Horizon Zero Dawn project so that life could go on after extinction?

There's literally no "feminist" or "SJW" agenda in the game! At this point you're just being misogynistic because the main character is female, and to you that instantly means "OMG SJW!!" You're teetering real close to hate speech. Have you not heard it said "love your neighbor", or "love others as I have loved you"? Truly I say to you, if your heart is filled with contempt and malice, then you are no different from what is wrong in the world. Take a deep look within yourself, and fill your cup with what is right and stop poisoning yourself with thoughts of malice. That which you feel for others shall be written on your heart as well. Eventually, all hearts are judged based on what is written on them.

@Majora101 ahh yeah i was thinking of Dishonored 2!

For me the graphics aren’t the reason to play games. Sure I like nice looking titles if they are fun to play. But recently I’ve been playing Kirby on the switch, handheld mode. And it looks pretty damn good even tho it’s not a photorealistic open world game with all the bells and whistles.
It it impressive how they have ported all those demanding games to the switch and made them run perfectly. But I think the main focus of porting games should be just to show off that you can.

@Quarth I had the same thought that 8bitman was really 8bitboi. Our (least) favorite gator wouldn't shut up about his X1, so if they are the same person he knew remembered to mix up the details of his life, and at least deserves credit for that.

The quality of his trolling, not so much.

@-Juice- thanks for the spoiler. Next time please give a warning for those who haven’t played the game!

I’m about 30hrs into Horizon Zero Dawn and now just found out something I didn’t know... I didn’t read your full comment but yeah... not cool.

@Callmegil Lore is part of the story... And I made many other points as well.

@Kienda Sorry. It is a year old though.

@earthinheritor Playstation is still a division of SIE which is still a subsidiary of Sony Corp. Not different entities.

@Majora101 ahh yeah i was thinking of Dishonored 2.

@PanurgeJr Yeah, but unfortunately I don't think it's the same guy, which sadly means there are more than one of this kind of troll. But just put this one on ignore. They eventually get themselves banned. It's just sad how much their negativity brings this community down.

Dead Space Trilogy
The Witcher series
Cuphead
Shadow of The Colossus

@Fight_Teza_Fight See, the thing about opinions, is that you don't have to agree with them, but I have mine and you have yours.

Let me clarify anyway. Nowhere did I say that "interactive movies" were less of a game. Some people enjoy films while pressing buttons here and there. Me personally, I'd rather control everything, as that's why I play videogames.
So when a game is touted as this amazing thing, yet you can't interact with the world outside of its intentional, scripted targets, excuse me if I'm colored disinterested.

@onex

What does that even mean? A game is entirely scripted. Everything has been created with intent.

They aren't 'interactive movies' though. It seems to me you have a strange perception of Sony FP games. HZD is a 60 hour open world RPG. God of War is a 35-40 hour RPG.

Detroit Become Human is an interactive movie and it's marketed as such.
Your entitled to your opinion. My issues lies in your generalisation of Sony's FP output as 'interactive movies' which comes of as nonsensical fanboyism.

That's like me saying Nintendo FP games are only appealing to kids- it's not.

It's getting ported to tabletop.

@PanurgeJr Different writing style. No Americanisms detected. Gator's not an edgelord like this guy is.

I’d like Panic Button to bring us the original Metroid Prime trilogy to the Switch. It’s a great series and definitely deserves to be in a portable format.

@Equinox shut up, you flaccid incel troll.

@onex You haven't even played Horizon Zero Dawn or God of War! Christ! /FACEPALM

Only the tutorial/prologue is linear, but after that both games completely open up and you have a lot of freedom how you play either game out. They are practically open world RPG's no less than for example the Elder Scrolls games, Zelda BotW and XC2.

Mass Effect Trilogy or Bioshock Trilogy, either/or

@Orwellianson When I first saw your reply I was like what in the hell..., then I looked up his post.
Yep, you're on point here!

@EightBitMan I have never really owned a Sony console, but the PS4 has an admirable library to say the least. Hell, even the new Spider-Man game looks tempting (and im not a huge comics fan). Not to mention a few "remasters" from the PS3 era as well.

I might end up grabbing one next year. So yes, credit where credit is due

@daebiya The Mass Effect trilogy would make me insanely happy. Would love to explore that world again. I like the way you think!

@Fight_Teza_Fight For the last time, my disinterest in a game has nothing to do with whether a game is good or not. It seems you are taking issue with my indifference. I've made my reasons known, so please get over it. If you think HZD is amazeballs, great. I'm happy for you. I'm a bit more selective with my gaming experiences - mainly due to time and money, and while little niggles may not seem like a big deal to you because "OMG STORY THO!!", they're enough for me to pass on that experience.

If you care to watch the video that made me change my mind about wanting HZD, you can view it here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aVPXKdSEGNQ
You may not agree, and that's fine, but it reveals to me the developers' priorities.
God Of War did a better job of immersing the player, so kudos to them, and I'm really excited for Ghost Of Tsushima and Red Dead Redemption 2 (although that's of course Rockstar), so it's not a bias against Sony, just a disinterest in HZD. Good day.

@Jeronan Ok, so I laid the "interactive movies" on a little thick, but I did say "in most cases", meaning I'd place GoW in that category to a lesser degree. In fact, they did a better job of incorporating story into the gameplay, similar to Deadly Creatures (although DC's story was entirely passive), even going so far as to take control away from you somewhat to emphasize certain moments, to which that I commend. GoW deserves GOTY so far, unless RDR2, Smash, Spiderman, or some other big holiday release blows everyone away.

@onex May I have a go at that?

Your argument is that you're not interested in HZD because it has less environmental physics in comparison with a game that is a complete different genre and has a complete different play style? Is that it? Horizon Zero Dawn was Guerrilla's first ever attempt at blockbuster title, of course they have different priorities and on top of that they have a newly designed engine that we have no idea what is capable of (only 2 games have been developed on it) and you didn't take into account Nintendo is more experienced in that field and they have done it in previous titles (Wind Waker, Skyward Sword, Phantom Hourglass/ Spirit Tracks etc.).

Playstation only has 4 Interactive Movie games: Until Dawn (and The Inpatient), Heavy Rain, Beyond: Two Souls and Detroit Become Human. There's a serious distinctive difference in gameplay between those games and their adventure titles. I don't think you're being biased, but you are being dangerously arrogant towards their format. They don't do it because it's lazy, they do it because it sells.

Also, Smash can't be nominated for game of the year because it comes out when the nominations are already up. Only BAFTA and NAVGTR can give them awards. But BAFTA doesn't nominate Nintendo games for best game of the year, so your best bet is in NAVGTR.

I would like to see ghost recon wildlands, gta5 , skate, Sega rally or metropolis Street racer.

If we're talking impossible ports... I want them to do one for Rogue Leader... the unreleased/unfinished Wii game... way too much politics involved though "^,^

Would be epic but Sony would never allow it plus, it would be an impossible port. Much more so than doom or Wolfenstein. Shame cuz it would be the best game on switch. Sorry Nintendo fans, I still love Zelda and think it'll never be surpassed on switch

@sanderev hzd has much better combat than Zelda by a mile. I wish it had puzzles like Zelda but frankly Zelda's combat is almost as weak as it's storytelling

@Callmegil I personally don't care what game is awarded what, but it's a general guide of what the industry thinks is worth noting. Of course all opinions regardless.

Yes, i'll admit I do have a bias against Sony titles. They make great consoles that 3rd party companies fawn over, but I remain skeptic of their ability to maintain thoroughly engaging gaming experiences. Don't get me wrong, they have some gems, and their studios are making great strides. Like I said, I think GoW deserves GOTY status so far in 2018. However, I'm of the feeling or impression that they try to hide uninteresting gameplay loops behind eye candy.

There are franchises I loved of theirs that are now defunct, and Ghost of Tsushima has my attention, but modern Sony games aren't my cup of tea for the most part. I'm not particularly fond of games that spoonfeed you its story to be honest. I've always been a huge proponent of gameplay first. This is why I even enjoyed No Man's Sky at launch. You do what you want, and if you feel like digging for it, the story and lore are there for your efforts.

@Fight_Teza_Fight exactly. The type of people that say things like that are obvious fanboys. It's clear they've never played these games.

The idea of linear or scripted being a bad thing is beyond ridiculous besides. Needing everything to be interactive is equally ridiculous. Most games with that kind of freedom have to rely on it because everything else is so weak.

What Sony games lack in sandbox elements are made up by being great at everything they set out to do. Can't say that about Nintendo. Nintendo games often have half assed elements, and it's not gameplay, but the combat is also not always the best either.

And not every game has to be all about the gameplay and not every game has to be all about the presentation and combat either. That's what's great about owning both consoles, you get the best of both worlds

How Nintendo fanboys can be happy with gameplay alone is beyond me. It's not 1989. We can do more than just gameplay these days

@HugoStiglitz_420 I disagree here, Breath of the Wild's combat is the best in the series. And maybe the best for any adventure game like it. And far better than HZD.

@Giygas_95 Oh wow Megaton Rainfall sure look trippy. I had never heard of it. Still it´s not really an alternative to NMS. So far I´m very looking forward to morphite. graphically much simpler but maybe the mechanics will be better.

@onex That is fair enough. If in case you still have a slight interest in trying their IPs, they have (way) less story-driven games available, my personal favourite: Gravity Rush and Gravity Rush 2.

In my own personal perspective, story is the most important aspect of a single player game. Gameplay will always be there and original in it's own right, but a good story is hard to achieve. If I'm going to save a princess, I need to know why. Shawn Layden, Chairman of SIE Worldwide Studios, said their aspirations with video games is to move us, makes us laugh, cry, question moral values, overall deliver a widen experience in gaming. And it's not just Sony, Rockstar does it too with the GTA series and Red Dead Redemption series. Look at this: What Remains of Edith Finch is pure story and gameplay is slightly minimal, but it didn't stop it from getting a Best Game award. Critics know the importance of a story and value it just as much as gameplay.

Again, this is all personal taste, but to form a critical judgement, one requires an open mind and actually play the games from start to finish, not midway through with a friend or watching gameplay online. One shouldn't share feedback, positive or negative, if these were the means for you to come to such conclusion.

@Callmegil Indifference is neither a positive nor negative sentiment. I'd be quicker to praise a game I've never played before bashing it. That says nothing of indifference, however, which is what I feel toward Horizon. shrug I don't get much time these days to play long story driven games, so there's no point in convincing me otherwise on that one. It wasn't really a contest, honestly. I play every Zelda game at launch ever since Wind Waker, and after having dropped 400 for the Switch and a couple games, there was no way to fit HZD into my time or budget.

I did play Edith Finch, and it was a neat little game! Interesting story, but I wouldn't say it was the best game by any means. Unless you missed a relative, it has pretty much zero replay value. I won't discredit its clever presentation though.

Rockstar is a different beast entirely. They're practically masters of open world games, which is why RDR2 has so many excited. Except when it comes to story in their games, I think the gameplay is excellent already that you don't need to pursue the story to have a good time, but it's there if you want it. I never finished RDR1, but I played enough of it to deem it one of my top 5 gaming experiences of all time. Maybe it's me, but I don't need a story front and center if the gameplay loop is enjoyable enough. Nothing against those who do, just a matter of preference.

@onex I mean yeah, if your opinion is final, little I can do to change it, I'll tell you this though, HDZ is like Monster Hunter, but 10 times more deadly when it comes to gameplay.

Rockstar is beast in both, GTA V is by far the best cinematic game experience I had (until God of War). Their gameplay is outstanding, but you can see that it's casual too. It doesn't require you years to master, like how someone would need to master platforming in Super Mario, despite being an excellent game, it's not hardcore. I'm on the same boat there, mate, RDR, LA Noire, I need to finish all of those.

@Callmegil Oh yeah! That reminds me, I have L.A. Noire on Steam I need to play through. Looks like my weekend is decided. lol

Yeah, I may be a little stubborn in my preferences, but I know what I like, and in my later years, budgeting time (and money) for games is a job in and of itself. Cheers and happy gaming.

@sanderev I highly, highly disagree but I respect your opinion. Breath of the Wild is an excellent game obviously and its combat is not bad, I just feel that Horizon's combat is a lot better and more satisfying personally.

That being said, I've not played a Zelda game since Ocarina of Time 20 years ago so I may be coming at this from a different mindset.

@Callmegil I really disagree. Rockstar's biggest weakness is its gameplay in certain areas

I do agree, GTA V single player is excellent. It's cinematic presentation is really good, it's a lot of fun, and its driving is also stellar and better than many racing games. However at times it feels very clunky. Especially in third person. There's a weighty feeling to characters that often doesn't feel right and often feels disconnected from your inputs.There's also a good amount of input lag even on PC. The shooting as well lags quite far behind even the average third person shooter frankly, thought it's definitely not terrible either. It just never feels as fluid or competent as many other games in the genre and I am incapable of ignoring that tbh.

Anytime a game has a lock on aiming system enabled by default, that's a bad sign that even the developers don't have much faith in how their game plays. But still, GTA V plays like an absolute dream compared to RDR 2 and it is a great game, but gameplay is the biggest area Rockstar can improve its games besides not using egregious microtransactions.