Given how successful 2017 was for Nintendo, following up on that success was always going to be hard. The Switch launched at the start of the year and was quickly blessed with one of the best year-one libraries we've seen in quite some time; smash hit after smash hit arrived on store shelves giving the console enough momentum to overtake the total lifetime sales of its forerunner, the much-maligned Wii U, in no time at all.
It's pretty obvious that Nintendo's strategy was to load the Switch's debut year with key titles to ensure it would hit the ground running and capture enough market share to encourage consumers – and third-party publishers – it was a horse worth backing. Reading out the Switch release schedule for 2017 is an almost dizzying exercise even now; it's hard to even believe that, in less than 12 months, we had Zelda: Breath of the Wild, ARMS, Splatoon 2, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Pokkén Tournament DX, Fire Emblem Warriors and Super Mario Odyssey - not to mention third-party offerings such as DOOM, Mario & Rabbids Kingdom Battle, FIFA 18, NBA 2K18 and much more besides.
Then there was the eShop, which blessed us with titles like Golf Story, Stardew Valley, Snake Pass, Snipperclips, Tiny Metal, Yooka-Laylee, Sonic Mania, Rocket League and Minecraft – and that's barely scratching the surface of what was a bumper year in terms of downloadable delights.
After such a robust showing, 2018 had to be pretty spectacular, and now that the glow of E3 has well and truly vanished, it's pretty clear that Nintendo has no intention of keeping up its barrage of hits – and nor should it. Granted, twitchy investors will fret over the value of their shares in the absence of software announcements, but the fact is that Nintendo's trailblazing 2017 has effectively secured its 2018; the Switch has such an embarrassment of amazing games that it seems almost churlish to grumble about a less populous 2018.
Certainly, from a business perspective, Nintendo is still feeding off its amazing previous year. People picking up Switch consoles at this point in time are literally spoilt for choice when it comes to games, which is why evergreen titles like Zelda and Mario Kart continue to drift in and out of the sales charts. To Switch newcomers, there's a veritable feast waiting at the table – more than enough to keep them content until next year comes around, anyway. Arguably more so than Sony and Microsoft, Nintendo has always been a company that produces software that sells year after year (the seemingly immortal Mario Kart 7 on the 3DS being a notable example), and we'd imagine that certain Switch titles will still be hoving around the lower regions of the charts in a couple of years, such is their enduring appeal.
Even if you've owned a Switch from day one, there's still more than enough content floating around to keep you happy in 2018. Many people on the Nintendo Life team have a personal "pile of shame" packed with games half-finished or not even properly started. Should you be one of these people who is lucky to enough to have hours of spare time then it's hardly like 2018 has been totally lacking in software; Octopath Traveler, Wolfenstein II, Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Mario Tennis Aces, Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection and Kirby Star Allies have all been excellent releases, even if some of those are re-heated Wii U titles. And that's not including eShop releases like Fortnite, Celeste, Hollow Knight, Sky Rogue, Subsurface Circular, Owlboy and more. In fact, looking at that list, it almost makes you question the whole "Switch has nothing in the tank for 2018" narrative; this year has more than its fair share of decent games.
However, it's only human nature to want more than you reasonably should have, so the feelings of disappointment following this year's E3 are understandable. Metroid Prime 4 was teased last year so its absence felt odd somehow, while Nintendo's decision to focus so much time on the next Smash Bros. was perhaps ill-judged, given the number of eyeballs watching the broadcast. Still, between Smash and Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!, it's hard to shake the suspicion that Nintendo has more than enough ammo in the clip to make sure Switch keeps selling right the way up to the end of the year; in fact, such a potent combo – when combined with the existing Switch library – could make sales explode during the holiday season, without any assistance from other games, eShop releases or third-party support.
While industry analysts will have you believe that Nintendo is running out of ideas after a breathtaking 2017 and pessimistic fans will grumble that the company has taken its foot off the gas when it needs to keep the pedal to the metal, there's merit in the school of thought which suggests the Kyoto giant knows precisely what it is doing in 2018 – and with games like DAEMON X MACHINA and the mainline Pokémon RPG looming temptingly in 2019, the signs are good that Switch will get a steady stream of new classics over the next 12 to 18 months, and we'd hope that as Nintendo eases off the accelerator, third-party publishers will slowly but surely fill the void with exclusive and multiplatform releases, giving the Switch library even more variety and balance as the console moves into 2019 and beyond.
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I’m not sure I agree. I know a bunch of people who picked up a Switch in its first year and many of them haven’t touched it in months if my friends list is any indication. Nintendo has not been able to keep the momentum and enthusiasm going this year and it will eventually hurt them in the long run. They need to change their reputation and pump out some killer exclusives at a regular clip instead of relying on full-priced re-releases of five-year-old games to pad out their library.
I have 28 physical switch games and I've only had time to really play 9 of them. There are simply too many games for me to keep up. More in 2018 than in 2017 actually.
EDIT: Sonic Mania just arrived. Make that 29. For reference, I have 27 Wii U games.
Yeah 2018 is a bit lacking compared to 2017, but Smash and Pokemon on a single console are just about the best system sellers you could hope for. Also, unlike 2017, we actually have a good idea of what to expect for next year, and it's already looking like it'll blow 2018 out of the water. Pokemon 2019, Fire Emblem Three Houses, Yoshi, Bayonetta 3, SMT V, Daemon X Machina, as well as smaller third party games like Trials Rising, Caligula Effect, and Digimon. Not to mention that by that time third parties should be even more active helping fill out the Switch's library.
TL;DR: 2018 can't match last year, but it's going to finish strong and lead into an excellent 2019. Let's hold off the chants of Nintendoom, now, shall we?
@thesilverbrick
I just "switched on" some days ago because Octopath Traveler otherwise my Switch was OFF From December 2017(Xenoblade 2) until July 2018...
Even my Wii U never experienced that... I think it was 1 month max...
2018 has been great for me. Captain Toad, Fortnite, Mario Aces, Wolfenstein, Octopath, & Kirby with Smash on the horizon. Not super excited about Pokémon Let’s Go, but they will be another big seller this year and I have already pre-ordered both versions for my kids (skipped it for me). Hard to complain there isn’t enough to play.
I have 23 games on my Switch right now (owned since Dec) & I have hardly had time to play all of those. With the games I’m interested that are coming soon, I find it very hard to think there will be a lull in my gaming schedule. Do some people not have jobs, or school or other interest outside of games that this list is considered “too little”. Even if all these games don’t float your boat, there’s still plenty there. If not, then why did you buy a Switch? For a list of games you have no interest in playing?
Err... that 2nd list says it all.
If you have just about any other console. You have better choices elsewhere for $39/$60. The Switch does not live in a bubble for some.
it seems 2019 will be a little better on first party wise, with Fire Emblem, Pokemon, DxM, and Yoshi.
i'd say ports. but, they don't count apparently.
I'm undecided. I didn't buy all the 2017 games and don't want to buy the rest. Although there have been titles this year, none have been system sellers. Those do come later this year though.
@Cobalt This may be because you say none of the games have interested you until Octopath.
2017 = Great Switch games line up for me.
2018 = OMG, even better despite still lack of Animal Crossing for Switch.
I think the complaining about the lack of games this year is somewhat overexxaggerated. Switch has still seen a decent influx of quality titles and I am finding plenty of games to keep me busy still. As the article pointed out at this point there is more than content right now to justify buying a switch. I think people often forget about the highly evergreen nature of Nintendo's own games
Third party-wise, I'm happy as a peach with Switch's 2018 lineup.
In terms of first party releases, though, they're mostly either party games, ports of Wii U games, or are sporting weird design choices that make them not as attractive as they could be (hello, Pokemon Let's Go!)
@Matthew010 "This may be because you say none of the games have interested you until Octopath."
No, I already had them because Nintendo knows only to port... :/
I think the complaints are less about how many games there are in 2018 vs 2017 and more about how most of Nintendo's biggest games this year - Smash Bros Ultimate, Pokemon Let's Go, Super Mario Party, and the rumored NSMBU port - are all releasing during the last 3-4 months of the year.
In 2017, things were more spread out. Zelda BOTW + Mario Kart 8 DX were the big launch/spring titles, Splatoon 2 was the big summer game, and Mario Odyssey rounded out the holidays.
Fortunately, those 4 big 2017 games are still selling like crazy and are evergreen successes, so that's probably why Nintendo isn't exactly panicking over the lack of one/two 5+ million sellers for the Switch in H1 2018 like their shareholders were.
Nintendo had a chance in 2018 to blow away the competition and it blew it. PS4 make a comeback even in Japan mainly thanks to MH. No need to sugarcoat it. I dont want to have the same discussion next year.
I just grabbed a Switch five months ago, after having left Nintendo gaming after 2007. I am beyond pleased with the games I've played, and the 15 purchases I've made. I'm looking forward to Starlink, Smash, Let's Go, Grim Fandango, Okami. I've enjoyed the mess out of Fornite, and only spent $4 since release to buy the first Battle Pass.
Obviously, everyone has different expectations, but my Switch is fulfilling the exact role I want it to; Something to play for any mood I'm in, and dedicated to the games.
Bit of a Clickbait'y title - sure to cause some strong views.
Here's my view. I've been very impressed with the output in both years. There is no issue and nothing that need's to be justified by looking at it in the way suggested. Nothing to see, please move along. All is coco.
So many games in my backlog across systems I could probably use a quiet year. But Nintendo's E3 was dreadful with the Smash overkill (which just looks like exactly the same game, warts and all, as before). Time to waste talking about a cosmetic hit effect on Olimar's helmet and an alternate outfit for Bayonetta but not for any of the tons of other games that are supposed to be in development.
The unfortunate reality in looking at that list is that the majority of games are available elsewhere and have been for some time, particularly a lot of Nintendo's own with only really Mario Odyssey, Arms and 1-2 Switch as completely new games for the Switch from Nintendo. Even looking ahead for the rest of the year we have a remake of a Pokemon game and Smash Bros which can't by nature be too different to previous entries.
Now I very much like my Switch but as an owner of other consoles and a PC it's not easy to justify picking up multiplatform stuff for the Switch, so I look to exclusives and this year only Octopath Traveler has me even remotely excited
@Cobalt Nintendo knows only to port do they? So there are no new games this year?
I'd love to see some more Atlus stuff too. They put out loads of RPGs on the 3DS
I just hate how Nintendo will lean so hard on "evergreen" titles these days. Or release half-finished games with on-cart DLC that sure, they release for free months down the line, but the whole point of them is to drum up "hype" for an old game instead of constantly making new ones. It's cheap, anti-consumer, and only prolongs them having to release nothing.
The Switch does not need a mountain of indies, (that are mostly better/available on the PC) Wii U ports, (kind of on the fence about Smash being a port or a remake but DK and Toad definitely are) or gimmicks like Labo. It needs games like Octopath Traveler, Metroid Prime 4, Yoshi, heck, even Pokemon Let's Go. You can't keep up these dumb hype-building mechanisms and expect people to stick around forever.
Switch is having an alright 2018. I've bought 10 games so far this year for Switch. Which is more than I've bought for Xbox One in the past 5.
I expect to pick up another 10 switch games before 2019.
I got about 30 switch games in 2017, so it will be less than last year, but still way more than any other game provider.
Aside from indies, all I’ve bought this year is Labo, which I really regret getting, still haven’t touched (I wish I’d held out a week for DK), and is hard to sell on eBay. There just haven’t been many must-have games to get (I am pretty picky though). Hurry up, Smash.
I think most of the commenters are missing the forest through the (evergreen) trees and forget what the consumer marketplace for games looks like, being absorbed only in "core gamers".
I think if you're looking at "gamers" that buy them it's not a problem that Switch lacks enough games, it's just that with limited time and funds everyone prioritizes and there may be games that they're prioritizing higher on other platforms than games on Switch.
Most people here owned a WiiU so most of this library is a rehash. Most people here and most people people here know own other consoles or gaming PCs and the 3rd party content is late and expensive.
Most of Nintendo's customers did NOT own a WiiU, and do NOT own another console or gaming PC. That represents the bulk of sales by volume. And for that audience this lineup is excellent. (Even for us it's mostly bottom weighted in Q4 and fairly good.)
If you look at a mass market that consists of non gamers that aren't playing on multiple systems, people find plenty on Switch if it's not competing with other platforms in their house.
WiiU had long periods with no games of interest coming out. Switch has almost constantly had interesting games coming out. But maybe not a game as interesting as GoW or Farcry 5 at a given moment, so "gamers" will put their attention there instead.
@Yorumi I do agree with your assessment, but Nintendo also gets unfairly singled out. With the vast exception of Ubisoft and Sony what company doesn't need a year off to have a good year?
Microsoft took 5 (and still delayed Crackdown 3. Again.)
EA releases few games, TOTAL, and many years consists of ports only and maybe one main game.
2K....other than the sports rehashes they've sat on GTAV and worked on RDR for 6 years and done little else.
Warner has fairly lean output total.
Bethesda has only a few franchises total, and the biggest 2 take 4-8 years to turn around with ports so prominent they had to do an entire professionally cut promo reel to mock their own porting to make up what turned out to be the heart of their E3.
Activision.....do they make games anymore or is it just Hearthstone, WoW, and Destiny? And they win with Crash......a port.
Square Enix and Ubisoft are the only two that turn around large annual libraries, though they promise games for years, and Ubi delivers them mostly broken, and Square with copious monitization schemes.
Sony I suppose remains the model for now with numerous 1st party games year round. They do have that part running like an oiled machine. They do it through buying tons of studios (and racking up immense debt to do so) which Nintendo (probably wisely) avoids, though it would help their output.
You're correct....it's just....that's standard in the industry now. Only Nintendo gets called out mostly because they don't get the big PC blockbusters.
Anyone complaining about this years lineup clearly isn't a nintendo fan. Sure its not had anything Zelda level of awesome early in the year, but its got Smash and Pokemon on the way for the end of the year that will sell like crazy.
Plus nintendo have published 10 switch games in 7 months, plus 2 of those games had 3ds versions developed and there have been a further 3 more 3ds games published by nintendo. Nintendo publish way more games than any other 1st party, and all of them are at least 7/10 games. Just because they don't all appeal to the mainstream switch is written off, when in actual fact the games are selling very well (bayo, dk, cap toad all out pacing wii u versions, octopath sold out most places, hollow knight and fortnight doing incredibly well on switch)
@Matthew010
Technically, the biggest games are :
Bayonetta 2
Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
Both Wii U games...
Zelda Breath of The Wild
Mario Kart 8
Hyrule Warriors
etc... in 2017, all Wii U games...
So at this time, I have the amazing Kingdom Battle from UbiSoft and Octopath Traveler from Squix.
The Nintendo games are, or broken (Xenoblade 2, Mario Tennis Aces) or ports... Excuse me but it's almost 1 year 1/2 that the Switch is available and I don't see FOR THE MOMENT any major title... Scary.
Gotta say I'm having trouble keeping up with the games so this lull is good for getting a few done until the end of the year. Not that it's been much of a lull for me, having just started Splatoon, Crash, and a few others.
I really can't complain about the year so far, but I'm someone who thinks good indie games are just as important as good full-priced games, and Nintendo has given me both so far. Octopath is undoubtedly going to be my favorite singleplayer game this year, and of course there's Pokemon and Smash just on the horizon. In between the bigger titles I've played the phenomenal Celeste, Owlboy, Hollow Knight, Lumines Remastered, BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle, Sushi Striker, and we're getting a plethora of indies later on this year like Hyper Light Drifter (Which I haven't played yet), My Friend Pedro, and more.
Honestly it all comes down to a matter of opinion anyway. As far as I'm concerned, though, I have a pretty decent backlog on my Switch, so there's always something to play. Maybe it's because I'm in my mid 20's and these days you see so many good games come out at a regular pace between platforms, it's ridiculous.
I'm a complainer. Now that Octopath Traveller is here I see no reason to complain. For now.
Having always been a handheld player, I still have a hard time paying home console prices for my games. So, personally, I don't have an issue with this drought right now -and there is a drought- because I'm very picky with my purchases anyway.
Pokemon betrayed me, and that stings. But I'm still getting Octopath Traveler, Valkyria Chronicles 4, Bayonetta, and Darkest Dungeon off the announced 2018 lineup. And I'm ok with that.
Oh, and don't forget all the Wii U ports (I had one so they aren't really a big deal for me), people who didn't have the system but own a Switch were treated to Bayonetta 2 (My favorite singleplayer Wii U game by far), the awesome and challenging Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, Captain Toad, Hyrule Warriors, etc. Hell, I double dipped on Bayonetta 2 because having it portable is an awesome thing.
I liked the phrase, “pile of shame.” Yeah. I have a modest pile. Maybe it’s my age but I have a “should finish a game before the next next” mentality, maybe from the pocket money days of my youth.
I’m skint now so I’m going to spend the next month on the Pile of Shame. Try to complete at least ONE title, I mean c’mon man, Golf Story can’t be that hard! Reward my self with some new stuff later.
I can't keep up and probably never will. I'm good for retail games just about till the end of the year outside of Monster Hunter and Dark Souls but there's no less then 20 eshop games I still have not purchased or still want not out yet.
I still have a decent backlog of games to play as well. Games I have bought and haven't even touched and don't know when I'll get to them. The Switch has been more then enough for me and that doesn't look to end any time soon.
2018 has been ok so far. Nintendo making the right choice of releasing lots of Wii U ports to improve what would otherwise be a very weak first 7 months. The problems are about the 2nd half of the year, particularly August onwards. I will be busy because of backlog and the Torna DLC more than likely being very lengthy but it would be better if there were more Wii U ports to back up the other games. Say for example 1 port in September, 1 port in October and 1 port in November (e.g. NSMBU + NSLU or 3D World, TMS#FE and XCX)
To be honest, I've been quite happy with playing Splatoon 2 & Mario Kart 8, & now that Octopath Traveller is out that should see me through until Smash Bros launches. Sure, that hasn't been as many big releases, but there's been plenty of eShop indies to fill the void.
I still don't think this year is a good year for the Switch - a mediocre Kirby game (which personally disappointed me incredibly), a bare bones Mario Tennis game, a decently good game in Octopath, a niche Mario Party game, $60 Switch versions of a free-to-pay phone game, a Smash game of which all we really know is that it has a bunch of old stuff, and a bunch of indie games most people don't pay attention too & old ports. Even if Smash Ultimate ends up being god-like and the best Smash ever, that doesn't make up the whole year, especially when you compare it to last year's line-up.
It Switch was my only console I would be starved for games this year
@Fake-E-Lee unless you get them for free, that's a lot of shovelware.
@Cobalt how is Xenoblade broken?
I got Bayonetta 2, DKCTF, Ys 8, and Octopath which are all good. Id like to see Xenoblade X come out this year as well.
But real talk: how many great games came out last year? BOTW, MK8D, Splatoon 2, Odyssey, and Xenoblade. I just think reality is setting in now that the hype is dying down.
I disagree.
Game releases can be strong every year.
Xbox doesn’t have a good year and take a year off.
Ea, Ubisoft, Sony own studios, etc... all sort out yearly releases in a series and then have new games....
Nintendo struggle - and except indies - 3rd parties aren’t on board.
I’m fine with the WiiU remakes - but they by now need to have shown more fresh creativity.
Let’s get it going and let’s get 3rd parties invested in making games and making games on the right sized carts
@Trajan colbolt hates the switch and pretty much everything on it. It’s fair enough personal preference
The Switch had the greatest launch year of any console ever. Of course it's a nearly impossible act to follow. 2019 is shaping up to be huge though. Mainline Pokemon and Fire Emblem confirmed with Bayonetta 3, Metroid Prime 4, and Animal Crossing as possibilities. That right there would rival 2017. 2018 hasn't been too bad for me though. Maybe because I also have a good gaming PC and PS4 and I didn't have a Wii U so Bayonetta 2, Tropical Freeze, and Captain Toad are brand new (and fantastic) for me. And Octopath is worth the wait.
In fairness it can always sound like the system has a lack of releases if you cherry pick which titles to mention that have released so far this year.
We have barely broken the half way point and we are already doom and glooming giving 2018 a total write off?
@Trajan
God, the framerate, the resolution that can drop to 368p, the textures poping but like layer after layer(espacially when you fast travel) etc...etc...
@Cobalt
New Games
1 2 Switch - New Game -
Snipperclips - New Game -
Arms - New Game -
Splatoon 2 - Sequel -
Super Mario Odyssey - New Game -
Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle - New Game -
Xenoblade 2 - Sequel -
Ports
Breath of the Wild - Multi-platform - Nintendo release it at the same time as the Wii U version. (why make it an exclusive to a dead console? when you have a brand new one coming out. wouldn't releasing it on Switch and Wii U be a smart move on Nintendo's part? although, if it came to Switch way later, and had it release on Wii U first. you would had a point of it being a port. might as well called Twilight Princess a Wii port from the Gamecube. )
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - it's a port with few new things, a Better improved Battle Mode.
Pokken Tournament DX - port, with few new things. and new DLC.
so yeah, 2017 wasn't a bad year for Nintendo. as i said, Nintendo made the right call to release Breath of The Wild. on Wii U AND Switch at the same time on March 3, 2017.
I can maybe understand fewer big-name releases, given the fact we got Mario and Zelda in the same year. However, fewer releases in general? Nope. That actually makes zero sense to me.
@Aozz101x
So Twilight Princess is a Zelda coming from the Wii or from the Gamecube for you ?
For me it's a Gamecube game ported to the Wii... There is no difference with Breath of the Wild...
@ilikeike Smash & Pokemon WOULD be an amazing combo for one year. However, you have to remember the 2018 Pokemon games we're getting are Pokemon Go games... not sure if $60 versions of a free-to-pay phone game with less Pokemon to catch than the free version is gonna be a system seller exactly.
And I'll be waiting for FE: Three Houses, Yoshi, & Pokemon to release or at least show more before getting hyped. People thought Kirby Star Allies would be an good/solid Kirby game before release, but it ended up being mediocre at best, and the last 2 Generations of Pokemon weren't exactly the most well received to say the least.
But what Digimon game is coming to Switch??
2018 has Taiko. Checkmate
Some folks just need some patience; great games take years to make.
All I see this year are mediocre 1st party releases and ports. 2018 is an awful year for Switch owners. Even 2017 had some stinkers (ARMS) that came out. 2019 looks much better. As for the rest of the year you have Mario Party (Who knows if that's any good), Pokemon (Very casual looking), and Smash. Not exactly the best lineup.
I have only two games for my Switch. This year has been a disaster. Few first party titles being released.
I'm up to my eyeballs in Switch games.
Still haven't finished Bayonetta 2 or even touched Bayo1, never got past 2nd world of Kirby, or even halfway past the Mario Tennis Adventire mode. I did play through DKC Tropical Freeze though.
Haven't even started Hyrule Warriors, I'm only 3 chapters in to Wolfenstein 2, only a few hours into Hollow Knight, and Blazblue Cross Tag Battle, never finished a single Mega Man game in the collection, or even started to play any of the Street Fighter games in the collection. Only 5 levels in to Captain Toad, and 10 hours in to YS VIII, few hours into Crash Bandicoot Trilogy, havent even started Shining Resonance, and just now started Octopath Traveler about 10 hours in, and oh, got Sonic Mania Plus at BestBuy today. And still never started the Mario Rabbids DKC expansion either. And that makes no mention of the more niche releases I need to get back to like Attack On Titan 2, Atelier Lydie & Suelle, Fallen Legion, etc.
And God help me when Okami HD releases in 2 weeks, and Little Dragons Cafe. And come August 28th EVERYTHING is getting dropped for Monster Hunter Gen Ultimate. Still have Dark Souls Remastered, Tales of Vesperia, Valkyria Chronicles 4, Pokemon Let's Go, Smash Bros, Pillars of Eternity 2, Xenoblade 2 Torna expansion, Ark Survival Evolved and PixArk, Team Sonic Racing, Mega Man 11, Super Mario Party and goodness knows how much other stuff that hasn't even been announced yet.
And that's not even dipping into the games from last year I havent played or even started, which is quite a few (I'm sorry Fire Emblem Warriors, I do love you I swear! I just cant find the time!)
So ya, if others arent happy... well, you have my condolences. But as for myself? Holy crap I've never amassed so many games to play so quickly in my entire life
@thesilverbrick Nice first post. I expected half of the replies to be people telling you off. And at least 3 from the writer being his usual overly defensive self. But I guess he knew what he was doing when he used the overly opinionated "Shouldn't Be a Concern" rather than just stopping at 2018. I think it's a concern, as does mostly everyone else it seems. But he's been writing stuff like this for a very long time now, he knows what he's doing. And it's a concern, but it's not Nitnedoomed stuff, just something that bears watching at the moment, SSBU and Pokemon will sell enough come the holiday. And a September Direct - I've read rumours of 1 in August - should help move things a long.
But I'm also a Wii U owner, so my opinion doesnt' matter I think. Nintendo is willing to write off 13mil Wii U owners to target the other 87m Wii owners and 80m 3DS owners. Can't say that I blame them. Next year will be more telling. Especially if PS5 and X2 appear. This is a coast year, sophomore slump. It's already outsold Wii U, can't take that away from them.
@Cobalt oh sure. there no difference, with BOTW on Wii U/Switch. just like there no difference with Twlight on Wii/NGC/Wii U. other than graphics and controls.
so again, why wouldn't Nintendo take the icing on the cake and release BOTW on Wii U/Switch? just as they did with Twilight Princess on Gamecube and Wii? (besides in America.)
if we even go further, Animal Crossing and Doshin the Giant are both N64 games that got ported to Gamecube in Japan, while first time for us to play these games in the west. although, for Animal Crossing it had been release two times(three times if you wanted count the west version as it's own thing). + which is the N64 version, and e+ which adds few new things, which these few new things were later added in Wild World, City Folk and New Leaf. such as the medicine
@Fake-E-Lee wasn't saying that. Just yeah...
Reminds me of months ago when people were buying every single game that came out regardless of quality. In their sort of defense, they didn't play over half of them.
@Cobalt Portable is fine. Textures are meh. Would you rather the loading time be way longer? They pop back after 3 seconds anyway. The game might be too much for the system though.
@rjejr how are they targeting Wii owners?
@Aozz101x
You forget "on purpose?" an essential point.
It's the same game ! Even for Twilight Princess they did a change (a stupid one, by reversing the game left/right) but yeah The Wii U version WAS better at first but Nintendo cut the gamepad fonctions otherwise BOTW would have been better on Wii U... :/
@NEStalgia Seems that you and only a handful of other people seem to understand what's going on here, and are able to form coherent thoughts and comments about it...
But yeah... whatever the hell was I expecting?
Of course, most people are only looking at it from their own short-sighted, personal perspective, not being able or capable enough to see, much less understand the bigger picture, and instead resorting, once again, to moaning and complaining about how bad things are and how little they have to play for the next few months to come...
Fact is, that market and sales wise, the Switch is having a simply BRILLIANT year, bringing Nintendo a much needed and well-deserved success, and there isn't going to be any danger for them of falling into some kind of mis-perceived trap or software drought at ALL, because there isn't any right now, and there isn't going to be any for at least the next 6 to 8 months to come...
Also, there are the comments of Panic Button and a couple of other companies of quite a bit more to come, and of course, there'll be a couple more Directs before the year is over, which will also still have some potential for showing of titles or projects that we still know little or nothing about.
Of course, in general, it is always a good thing to keep a watchful eye, both for the consumer and the company, because they will have to keep the flow going, but right now, there's no need for defcon-1 yet, not by a LONG shot, so people just need to take a chill pill, and enjoy what they have and what's yet to come...
#firstworldproblems #therearebiggerissuesintheworldthanthesupposedlackofgames
And RedOut!! Oh, wait....
SkyForce Reloaded is my favorite 2018 release to date, which is a pretty damning admission I suppose.
@Trajan
I swear, I'd like to wait 10sec more, even 15 if the game would run better, no problem for me. ^^
Even taking into account Nintendo's amazing 2017, this year could be better. I have to think there'd be fewer complaints if Yoshi and Fire Emblem were releasing this year, as originally planned. Still, we're getting a new Smash this Christmas, and despite what seasoned gamers think of the new Pokemon games, they're bound to be big sellers.
Speaking personally, I've been gaming on my Switch almost exclusively since launch day last year, so I'm not lacking for great games.
Since NL's existence is wholley dependent on Nintendo, any comments about Nintendo would lean towards the positive rather then the negitive; that's quite understandable but it is only an opinion.
If you assume that everyone with a Switch plays every game that Nintendo releases than there would be enough games to see us through year one and the lean times of 2018.
But Nintendo caters for quite a diverse range of gamers. Multi-player, single player, online player, young, older, experienced, hard core and novice player. And that is Nintendo's problem, it can't release enough games to keep everyone happy all the time.
Let's exclude ports, a bone of contention anyway, and that does include Smash Bros. I don't have any Switch games I want to play until Fire Emblem or Yoshi next year. I play mostly single player games, I avoid downloads if I can and will buy physical games, I always have done. The only physical single player game this year that I would have bought was Kirby, but the reviews all said for the younger player, to easy, eight hours gameplay. Mario Tennis, Splatoon and other multi player game reviews said not worth buying just for the single player experience.
Ive played Zelda, Mario, Mario Rabbids, Skyrim, Mario Kart, Fire Emblem Warriors. I waited for Kirby, the Spring release of Mario Rabbids and E3. Kirby I've mentioned, Mario Rabbids missed Spring and arrived Summer which I have now finished and E3 was a letdown.
There is nothing I can spend my money on until Nintendo tell us what there is going to be released between now and Fire Emblem next Spring.
I also resent being called a "pessimistic and churlish fan who will grumble that the company has take its foot off the pedal".
And I make no apology if I don't want to go with the flow and use my Switch home console to play mostly overpriced and overrated Indi games.
Nintendo seems to have play all its cards for now and the vast amount of 3rd party games have not arrived as expected. Nintendo seem surprised and content that Indi downloads has filled the gap.
Nintendo has games, but not the choice for the range of gamers it's trying to please.
Nintendo Life staff are not the ones to tell us that we have plenty of games since they play every game between them. They play plenty.
I do not own an xbox or PS and have bought every Nintendo console since the N64 and it is only now that I am thinking of buying a PS and spending money with Sony.
It would be nice if you withdrew the negitive comments about those who feel as I do.
@Yorumi I think "gamers" tend to view Nintendo through a lens they're not actually in front of though. Sony and the AAA factories have taught us to expect week after week, major new game after major new game, blockbusters at least monthly. For core gamers, that's normal life: a non-stop barrage of new "must have" content, that "every body else" already played.
But we're weird.
Most of the world doesn't work like that. Most people buying a console aren't waiting for the weekly or even monthly dump of new content, waiting impatiently to buy whatever comes out whenever it comes out, churning through them like a second job. Most people buy a console to have "some fun things to play." Look at the software attach rates for consoles. 7 is a high number. It might even be moving to 9 this generation. The average is nine. Not nine a month. Not nine a year. Nine TOTAL. For the entire 7 year generation. That's a little more than one game a year on average. To get that average, you have to consider the substantial weighting people like us apply at the top. I have (including freebies) 110 games for XBox, 30 (excluding games I've duplicated in moving to xbox) and by the end of the year 12 or so on switch sitting in my current games or backlog. That's over 1.5 years. If you total my total buys across platforms for the generation we'll probably be looking at 150-200 games. The average is 7-9. Meaning to offset people at one extreme here, there's a lot more people buying one game per generation.
So as gamers we're looking like "wow there's only 3-5 games all year I wanted to buy on Switch, what an awful year, there was a whole six week period with nothing that interested me. And on the average in consumerland, if there's 10 games they buy over the next 6 years, Switch is performing off the charts. All they need is one 2018 game to be right on normal. Octopath? Boom. Octopath + Smash? You're ahead of the curve. It may not rival the XBox 100 (5 years of catching up/moving my PS library), but it's profitable and stable and works.
And while MS/Sony/PC is competing for that consumer that buys games in the first 2 weeks, Nintendo is not competing in that market directly. They're in the market for people that buy a console 3 years in, and pick from the 100 or so available major games all the gems they like. People that don't think like us necessarily, but outnumber us 5:1 in the consumer marketplace. And it serves Nintendo well.
Miyamoto once said during the N64 era something like (paraphrased from memory) "I think 25 or so games is a good number for a console". The Nintendo mentality is that you buy a box, you have a handful of interchangeable entertainment programs to run on it, and you're good to go. Obviously that was 20+ years ago, they've changed substantially since then but their business design has never been the same as Sony's film and music inspired approach of "flood the shelves with continuous content" (devaluing each unit in favor of quantity sales.) The AAA's really bought into the Sony approach though, and MS helped push it.
But I do feel like people are constantly comparing Nintendo against a metric they themselves aren't actually targeting. Sure, there's old ports. But to their target consumer, is that even an issue? They get a fair number of those A/AA projects (more will come, Japan laughed off Nintendo after WiiU, and started ramping up last summer when it was clear Switch sells). But even then most are going to hit PC and PS first....x86 is always going to be an easier target platform and will always be the starting point of non-mobile games. And big new games will never target efficient hardware.
The question is: Is that really a problem for Nintendo's target market (which isn't us?)
@shoeses Thing is, the 2018 Pokemon games aren't meant for you or I. They're for the hundreds of millions of people whose first major exposure to Pokemon was with GO. If the Let's Go games can sell systems to even a small percentage of that playerbase, you'll end up with millions of systems and games sold.
I'm personally not too interested, but I can see why these games will sell to GO players. They're basically what GO should have been: catching Pokemon in the wild, featuring a familiar but enjoyable story with some really pretty environments.
I already like the graphical look of Let's Go, so I'm excited for the 2019 games since Game Freak claims they'll have the best graphics ever seen in the series. Of course I'll take that with a grain of salt, but if these new games look even a fraction as good as the new Yokai Watch game then I'll be pleased.
The new Digimon game was just announced today, I believe it's called Digimon Survive or something like that. It seems to be a mix of survival and grind-based strategy with some visual novel elements, maybe? Details are really vague on it right now. The one screenshot of it that's been released does look pretty good. Regardless of how the game turns out, it's another great franchise to have on Switch.
I sorry but this is a pointless article, there are plenty of games getting released on the Switch week after week .
@NEStalgia #70 spot on.
I personally made a point with the Switch that I would not buy any big titles until I'd made a massive dent in the one before. For generations I used to end up buying things all the time and playing bits of them over time, now I prefer to get my money's worth, as was the case with beating BOTW, then reward myself with a new game, in Mario Odyssey.
I beat the main game of Mario Odyssey, tracked a pile of moons down and unlocked a fair bit, I think I've seen enough so I got myself Splatoon 2. I also picked up a few arcade games and a pinball sim for quick bursts of no brainer action. Once I get bored of Splatoon 2 (no time soon), I'll pick up ARMS. It's a good way to play. I can't justify vegging out in front of a game for hours on end any more, I have too many other things going on in my life, I'm quite happy with my approach this generation.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, what drought?
@thesilverbrick I disagree with you, I still play with the switch. I have forty games and still getting more. if those fans are bored, either they beat most of those games, have other systems or is not willing to play with retro or arcade games. and what defines a killer game for you? how many killer games did xbox or ps4 do without the help of third parties. Even if Nintendo pump out so many killer games out, their internal studios has to have time to do so. their is only so much that a gaming studio can do. that is why indies, some third parties, retro and arcade games are helping out.
I think Nintendo have a few more games to announce before this year is up plus how could they top that launch year last year!? It was incredible. I don’t know why I should be concerned...plus the sheer fact that we have a Metroid Prime 4 coming gets me excited every time I think of it. Keep it up Nintendo, you’re doing great 👍🏻
I have one word for 2018 when it comes to Switch: backlog. While my backlog isn't as big as probably some peoples, I've gotten to the point where I have to screen what I put on the backlog now. I've got point-and-clicks, indies obscure and popular, curios, and of course a ton of old school/arcade games. I have to put myself on a "plan" just to ration out a respectable amount of money to knock a few off the list. Of course, more sales gives me more incentive too. All this, and I have to stay ready for the next bomb drop that inevitably happens where I face the dilemma anew-- Buy now, add to backlog, or pass completely. >_<
@dimi what are you talking about? the switch is still blowing away ps4 sales in japan. so what if they had monster hunter world. they are lucky the switch didn't get that game.
@thesilverbrick yah, I've not really played mine since January coz there are no games that appeal to me, last game I got was xeno 2 that was Dec, I did buy (regrettably) Mario aces, I traded in after a few days and got a Xbox one which I'm loving and not come off lol ... Ninty had a awful E3, only things worth looking into was Daemon x Machina and super Mario party (hopefully) and obvs smash but that's it ... Still waiting for Metroid stuff and maybe an F-ZERO, Starfox announcement ... Oh and starlink
I've missed these sorts of articles, they were few and far between in the Dom era.
@rjejr you are right when you say "Nintendo is willing to write off 13mil Wii U owners to target the other 87m Wii owners". That's how I, as a previous Wii u owner feel. I've been written off this year.
What would I miss if I jumped ship.
Seriously, nothing at the moment. I can't see a new Zelda or Mario Odyssey type game for a few years. Or a new Mario Kart, and Yoshi and Fire Emblem are next year. No Waverace or Snowboarding game anytime soon. Anything else I could live without. Maybe that's why jumping ship to a new PS5 next year look good.
@dimi I mean, there was literally another NL article today recapping the latest Japanese sales, and the Switch outsold PS4 and PS4P combined by about 3 to 1, while nine out of ten of the week's top game sales were on Switch or 3DS. But sure, keep talking about how Nintendo have totally blown it and allowed Sony to make a comeback.
@Cobalt plenty of difference because b.o.t.w is not a port, just a multi platform release.
@waluigifan1 arms is a good game, and Nintendo may have more surprizes than you think.
@thesilverbrick I feel like that is the minority because I myself and plenty of other Switch owners have had a hard time putting the system down. It seems like every week something cool is releasing for the system for ether Physical and Digital or just Digital.
@JasmineDragon "But I prefer Playstation games and I can't believe Nintendo produced yet another console that doesn't just fill up with Playstation games, and when it does it's old Playstation games. Nintendo never learns!"
Sincerely,
-Nintendo Life readers
@ThanosReXXX agreed
@zool you are talking about saving until fire emblem comes next year. do you know every single game that is coming out for the switch until the end of the year? there maybe more surprises than you think.
So far in 2018, I’ve been blessed with games like Celeste, Donkey Kong, Labo, Fortnite, and Mega Man Legacy Collection. I’m looking forward to getting Crash Bandicoot, Captain Toad, Hollow Knight, Smash Bros, Mega Man 11, Starlink, and Pokémon.
And it’s not like I can’t go back and replay 2017’s gems. ARMS, Splatoon 2 (which has amazing DLC), Zelda, etc.
And there’s other games I’ve skipped that I still need to get, like Cave Story, Yooka-Laylee, The Escapists 2, the Labo Robot Kit, and Owlboy, some of which released this year, some last year.
I wouldn’t say I’m 100% satisfied with 2018’s lineup, but I’m pretty dang satisfied overall. There’s not a “drought”, per se, but there isn’t a flood either. Expect light showers throughout 2018.
Good piece here. It would be unfair to expect Nintendo to dish out a comparable lineup to last year. Metroid, Fire Emblem, Bayonetta and Yoshi would've been nice, but those games aren't ready. Too many people are just impatient and want everything now, but when we do get the games, they're asking "what's next?" ....
As for Switch games in general this year(not just 1st party games),there's been tons. For God's sake, at the end of June, we got Crash, YS VIII, Wolf2, Inside and Limbo, in just of a matter of DAYS. Then we got Captain Toad, Shining Resonance and Octopath in July.
@dimi you clearly have not seen the sales charts in Japan
@NEStalgia I'm not sure what your talking about lol the only game that fits that would be Crash Bandicoot that I know of Nintendo has released plenty of amazing first party games so far and some awesome third party games as well have come exclusively to the platform such as Octopath Traveler.
@ekwcll
There was that interview of Aonuma saying that they had TO PORT the game on Switch because THE ENTIRE ENGINE, ASSETS etc... were made on the Wii U. That explain why you have framerate issues on Switch at different part of the game compare to the Wii U version.
Believe it or not, it's a port... I trust Aonuma for that.
Frankly speaking, I find myself playing more with my Switch in 2018 than I did in the past year. In fact my PS4 Pro has been collecting dust and I only occasionally use it for a bit of VR.
Then again, it may be because the Switch and the kind of games released for it fit perfectly into my schedule... I mean: I work for about 50+ hours a week, and on top of that I got an additional 15+ hours of commuting. I also got other hobbies and interests to care for: I like traveling, I'm indulging in photography with my DSLR, I occasionally do some semi-pro translation works from Japanese to English, I like doing some home-cooking and trying out new recipes, sometimes I opt in as a replacement bartender and mix some drinks and I also try to improve my skills in Mandarin.
For me, the Switch library is perfect - it gives me exactly what I want and I don't find it lacking in any way.
My guess is that detractors like "thesilverbrick" or "Cobalt" are either very rich and don't have to follow a working schedule like the majority of folks here on the forum or they are actually absolute geeks who are completely addicted to video games and thus need to spend all of their available resources on such purposes. And yes, with that in mind, I can understand (just like the same level that I can barely understand someone like Donald Trump) what they're saying. Still... they are an absolute minority. Video games are mostly discussed by the geeks and likes on forums, but they sell on the many.
For me... I just enjoy playing the Switch on my commute on the subway - regardless whether it is a round of Hollow Knight or Mario Odyssey or Doom or whatever - and then putting it on my big screen for another few minutes when I return home before heading for bed.
Likewise, I also seem to be one of the very few who actually uses tabletop mode - indeed I often meet with some friends at a local craft beer bar and we play things like Overcooked, Street Fighter or Fifa with the mini-controllers.
And I even had the chance for some Multi-Switch happenings after work, because during my last project I was in the fortunate position of being in a team of 12 IT-Consultants with 4 of them owning a Switch. XD
With all that said, I wonder what axe some of these participants round here have to grind? Either you are rich, and then it doesn't hurt you to financially to purchase a Switch too, or you're after the kind of games Sony specializes on - but then you don't need a Switch because Nintendo games probably won't interest you.
I would put in some famous "George Carlin" quote here aimed at certain detractors, but I guess everyone other around here knows already what I want to say, even if **they** are utterly unable to comprehend...
Dementsprechend... für jeden vernünftigen Menschen hier im Forum...... Masel Tov!! (^o^)/
@Cobalt there is one difference between those Zelda games, they're both ports from their original intended platforms but at least BOTW wasn't entirely mirrored to accommodate shaking a controller 😆
@Syrek24 Oh i'm definitely in that predicament I've bought allot of games on sale and my library keeps growing every week. I may not be picking up every AAA Title that comes out but I'm in love with the indie games that release.
@Yorumi what niches do you feel are underrepresented (excluding open world sandbox and physics racer that really can't gel to well with the hardware design)?
@ThePhantom0288 your sarcasm filter may be disabled...
First, let me be thankful a certain Eire amongst us wasn't here in time for the first comment, nor the first 100.
Having said that, most of the games that sell Nintendo's consoles comes from the same set of developers. Outside Retro Studios with Prime, it's hard to pitch Splatoon, Mario (and Kart), Zelda in one year and expect Animal Crossing, Pikmin, F-Zero, etc. to be set up for the following year. Pokemon Company already has not one, but TWO games coming in the vein of traditional experiences (obviously one more watered down to pull in the GO market), along with the obvious Smash title.
With that list, what else is there that SELLS consoles? Sure we'd get maybe a Star Fox, but that's likely from EAD as well. Really only things they can consider is ports of Super Mario Maker is extended content (if one of the EAD wasn't already working on a new one) and the aforementioned AC (which is another thing, if EAD was working on, earliest would been is September of last year).
I really have no issues with how they’ve been doing things, unfortunately I don’t make enough money to buy games when they come out so I usually end up picking up games after a good paycheck. Recently I just got Mario and Rabbids and that game is really fun, I plan on picking up Octopath this week as well. Of course the only thing I wish for is more third party but I play a lot of games on my PC as well.
EDIT: Also I really want more racing games!
Any discontent is probably just from wanting a steadier stream of the type of content most Nintendo console owners care most about; high quality 1st party content. The Switch's game library is definitely growing, but for some it's by being bloated with games they don't care about, which are often ports of old games, enhanced or not.
@ilikeike But how many of those 'hundreds of millions of people whose first major exposure to Pokemon was with GO' didn't drop the game after a few weeks, and will spend another $60-$360+ to play a game they can keep playing for free on their phones?
The quality of a game's graphics aren't anywhere near as important to me as the game actually being good, but I would HOPE the first real Pokemon game on an HD console would look better than the previous entries.
Sounds... like an odd Digimon game. Was hoping it'd be on Xbox too, but it being on something other than a PlayStation is at least progress for the franchise to attempt to get a bigger following.
I am perfectly happy with the games this year.
I know I dont speak for everyone, but I prefer a little bit of staggering in the release window.
firstly because of time, ( no way can I play all games in one month
secondly for my wallets sake. it'll be looking a bit lean once i pick up super mario party and smash bros later this year.
( still trying to recover after that past couple months, donkey kong, hyrule warriors, tennis aces, and now octopath and captian toad.)
I would even go so far to say that they are still firing off releases rather frequently. (regardless of your oppinion of ports, they are still releases on this console)
The part where you question nothing left in the tank... while listing games that are ports of games that existed on other systems 12 + months ago as evidence is quite funny.
@Syrek24
Thanks!
Trying to do my best, but I don't think I've accomplished **that** much in my life...
Anyway... take care, do your best & ganbatte kudasai!
@Yorumi rpgs is one thing Nintendo had covered. Tons of rpgs. No worries on that one. Fps had always been the graphical showcase genre... That's going to be limited beyond what we have. And racers... Similar, and then there's the analog issue, racers clearly went a design consideration. Financially, i wonder if they consider mk sales protection too?
Sports i think are happening, just but yet. Ubi had Trials coming. Wwe and Madden and nba are probably no go.
Otoh Nintendo picks up wired Japanese niches the other platforms don't well represent. Srpg being a big one.
I just think those genres are synonymous with the other platforms while Nintendo competes not by including pale versions of the same but by going after the fringe they leave behind.
I am too busy looking at all of my unplayed games to be concerned to be honest.
@WiltonRoots Stay away from ARMS until you see it in a bargain bin. It's a complete ripoff at $60.
@waluigifan1 I've tried the demo and liked it so I know what I'm getting into.
@ekwcll Thanks.
@NEStalgia #70 So... much... logic...
A comment like that almost feels out of place in this comments section...
Switch is my only home console and my gaming previously was on Nintendo handhelds. So for me it's been a good year since I'm even getting to play games I missed on other consoles. I understand that's not the case for everyone but for me personally I'm satisfied and 2019 is looking even better. I'm currently working through a backlog. I finished Battle Chasers and just started Ys VIII. Octopath will be next and maybe sneak in Shining Resonance before Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate but who knows.
I am so glad this year is slower because my backlog is staggering!! I am just now finally starting Zelda BOTW DLC after 165 hours! I finally finished my second most played game of Mario Rabbids and finished DK DLC after 60 hours. I am just happy to have a break to finish some games.
Gaming journalism sure is a lot of talking in circles. Seems like a fat load of games to me, but I guess some people play 4 games a month.
Must be a lot of rich kids commenting on message boards without other hobbies to fill their time.
Ok the 2018 line up for me is Smash now and that's it. Pokemon doesn't seem to be the game i want it to be but we will see. I bought Mario tennis,bayo 2 and donkey kong as well. Also splatoon 2 octo expansion. Already some bad ones lined up for the future a port of south park stick of truth and a mario game which in itself is a port of one of the last wii games. South park stick of truth is a ps3 game we don't want it, unless its like 20 pound and we all know it won't be. Good things for the future that we know about at the moment fire emblem and smash and metroid oh and don't forget dark souls in 2030 lol. And of course mainline pokemon. 2019 could be a killer year but only time will tell at the moment but 2019 is looking good despite the bad things i mentioned about it!. Also hope mario u port is a lie, if a mario does get ported super mario 3d world cough!. or mario maker 2 now that would be cool.
I really don't understand why people remain so angry about Switch this year. We're getting a lot of great games. People act like they don't exist and aren't even willing to LOOK at them. If it isn't the exact games they specifically want, well then clearly there are no games.
I imagine there's a massive difference in attitude between those on video game sites (such as this one), and those that are not. The former (dedicated gamers, for want of a better term) being far more vocal, but the latter (casual gamers) being a much bigger majority.
For the casual gamer, there are bucket-loads of games to choose from (and I count myself in this category, as I probably only get to game 1-2 hours per week, if I'm lucky). And so the Switch and its games is as good as it gets.
For the more dedicated gamer, the attitude of some seems to be that it's all ports, or sequels, or not enough AAA, or not enough 3rd party, or too many indies, or not enough 1st party, etc... ad infinitum.
NL is an echo-chamber of dedicated gamers, and so not reflective of the gaming world as a whole. From Nintendo's point of view, everything is rosy, and I can't imagine they're concerned at all (consoles sold to date are well in excessive of their forecast).
I'm sure I had a point, but I got distracted, and now have work to do...
@Cobalt Yes, i just noticed that error awhile ago. I did meant to say "we may as well call TP a Wii port."however, i said that the other way around and have now corrected it. 👍 But, you get my point with these ports.
If you are not so much into Pokemon amd smash and own all the wiiu ports - like me - it can be a bit of a downer at first sight.
But with Wolfenstein 2, Octopath traveler, Monster Hunter, Okami HD, 2 Southpark Games, Starlink, Megaman 11 a great Mario Rabbids DLC and a massive Xenoblade DLC I can hardly argue that there is not enough!
@XenoShaun I think it's fair to cherry pick the last gen ports.
People who get mad at Nintendo and demand that they have a better 2018 line up are hilarious. It's like, "we want you to have a better 2018 line up!," and Nintendo internally is like "yeah, we kind of wanted to have one too, but stuff happens." Both Fire Emblem and Yoshi were originally 2018 titles and would have made for a more rounded yearly line up. But as it is, they needed more time, so they got more time to become the best games they can be(which we should all be very happy about, because that's not a practice that happens often in this industry). And it's not like Nintendo could just pull an Animal Crossing out of thin air. Games take years to make and if one gets delayed, you can't just shorten the development time of another to fill in thag gap. Yeah the line up is lackluster (for some) but it wasn't planned that way. At the end of the day, Nintendo has more than enough this year to keep sales strong (the double punch of Pokemon and Smash will make for a likely prosperous Nintendo holiday season).
@Heavyarms55 If it isn't the exact games they specifically want, well then clearly there are no games.
A distinction without a difference on an individual level. If you don't want any of the games released on the PS4 then to YOU, the PS4 has no games for YOU.
You can say 'the PS4 has games for other people' but that's not really helping is it?
Meh, this year has been good for me. It's only really August and September I'm going to be short for something to play on the Switch. I've added these to my collection this year:
Captain Toad
Wolfenstein II
Crash
Mario Tennis Aces
Hyrule Warriors
Donkey Kong
South Park
Labo
Kirby
Bayonetta
And I've still got Starlink, Mario Party, Pokemon and Smash to look forward to. Seems like a decent year to me. Not to mention they got one of the biggest games in the world at the moment running on it...
I'm content with my 2018 purchase. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and Super Mario Odyssey(I got LoZ:BotW on my Wii U at launch) provided months of enjoyment. I recently got Octopath Traveller, and plan to get XC2:Torna the golden country, Pokemon Let's Go Eevee, and Smash Ultimate. I prefer quality over quantity. This is more than enough to keep me occupied until Metroid Prime 4, Daemon x Machina, Fire Emblem, and Bayonetta 3 release.
@Aozz101x
I do !
I think this year for the Switch has definitely been a bit more lackluster compared to last year, but if you have more than one platform, is that really that much of a problem?
If you owned a Wii U and already played Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, and Captain Toad Treasure Tracker, then I can see why this year may seem underwhelming. If you didn't then you have four awesome games to enjoy on top of all the other games that came out/are coming out this year.
I owned all of those games on Wii U but I'm still playing online matches in Splatoon 2 and Arms. I still like to go back and explore the world in Zelda: BOTW. I still play against friends in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. I still complete some side quests in Xenoblade Chronicles 2. And then there's the new games that came out this year plus the ones yet to release. I am enjoying Octopath Traveler right now and am highly anticipating Super Smash Bros. Ultimate among other games.
I may be in the minority here (haven't read the other comments yet), but I'm actually glad that there are fewer "new" Switch games this year. The titles being ported over from the Wii U especially deserve another shot in the spotlight with what is already a larger install base than before. Even a majority of the new games are well done and look worth visiting (or revisiting).
Also, from my perspective, I'm glad that there's been a slowdown in titles; it has given me the opportunity to catch up a little on my backlog and not feel TOO guilty about not having a Switch of my own just yet (hopefully around the holidays; I should have most of my Wii U games completed by that point).
@Crono1973 There is a huge difference between saying "there are no game that I want" and saying "There are no games on the Switch." The former is perfectly reasonable (if somewhat hard to believe). That latter is simply, without question, FALSE
@dimi That's not the case in Japan at all. Nintendo has been crushing it in Japan for months with big leads.
@zool I don't think Sony it's going to release PS5 next year but I do recommend you to buy a PS4 now it's the perfect moment to buy one and get a lot of the best quality games for 20 or less including all indies that switch it's getting for less of what you would pay on switch and some ports that Switch its getting like wolfenstein 2 are cheaper too meaning that you can save money for even more games
I don't mind Wii U ports, I really don't. But Nintendo can't be relying on them to artificially inflate the Switch's library. And if they really want to port a Wii U game to the Switch, there should be at least some new content to warrant another purchase. So far the only game that has done this is MK8DX.
Ner, they still messed it up a bit. They needed at least 1 more big first party game this year. Maybe it'll still happen.
If it doesn't though, the momentum will have been quite badly lost.
@Cobalt You might not like them, but we've also had other NEW games like Super Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2(don't tell me that's a port, it has too much new content), ARMS, (although not as big) Kirby Star Allies and lots of third party support. So therefore Nintendo doesn't just know how to port, just not how to make games that suit you.
There's no point in beating about the bush, Nintendo have spectacularly dropped the ball on 1st and 2nd party in 2018. The line-up is virtually non-existent. What have we had so far? A few slightly enhanced Wii-U ports and that's pretty much it. It's comically bad. Fortunately there are still gems out there from third parties, such as the wonderful Octopath Traveller, but it's slim pickings. I have no interest in massively downgraded PS4 ports.
And what have we got in store for the rest of the year? A reheated Smash Bros game and a Pokemon mobile spin-off? They had better have a knockout line-up ready for 2019, or the Switch will fail.
@DBPirate It's all very well that other platforms are getting big games this year (Red Dead will likely destroy everything Nintendo has by a country mile), but that doesn't really help Switch sales much.
For better or worse (mostly worse) Nintendo relies on 1st and 2nd party dev. As that barely exists this year they needed 3rd parties to step up to the plate. Aside from Octopath, there's not much sign of that.
@Cobalt did you play Celeste? For me this is still my favourite game of the year and released on the same day on all consoles
@ramu-chan
We are more and more to think like you and me... Nintendo needs to wake up and soon.
The sells are going down in Europe already and I personally think that they're gonna drop even more in 2019.
@Balta666
Yep I did but not on Switch...
The people complaining about Switch's 2018 are hilarious. Sure, it may not be as explosive as 2017 was, but it's not a bad year at all. Nintendo's at least releasing Switch games regularly, ports or not. And third party support is continuing to grow as well with a lot of great ports coming. People complain about Nintendo getting no third party support, yet when Nintendo has third party support, people want first party games?
I'm still mostly seeing Wii U ports. There's just not enough new content from Nintendo themselves to justify spending £280 on a new console.
@deucezulu22 i watch japanese charts. The big question is why they still can't convince all the big 3d party japanese developers to bring their A team on Switch...
@Cobalt well but that makes no sense as the best version is on switch (same visuals, frame rate and you can play handheld)
@Balta666
Except that I freakin' don't care to play in handheld mode.
Whatever is the game...
I have a Switch only for Nntendo content and 3rd party exclusives when there is one (Kingdom Battle and Octopath traveler for the moment). After 1 year 1/2, it's reallly dry... :/
@dimi
There are two essentiel factors to explain that.
1st, there is A LOT of games that they can't port to the Switch because of the low specs...
2nd, like the Yakuza's producer has explained some days ago, the audience on Nintendo systems is not big enough/not the target for certain type of game.
But don't worry, I can already give you some infos that you probably don't know yet :
New Ridge Racer is coming.
New Megaman X is coming too.
So, you see, japanese 3rd party developpers are on board.
@Cobalt in that case it is clear the switch is not a console for you. It actually is for the millions that don't care about specs but want to play botw, SMO or Skyrim on the train.
@zool In my head I think I've written off being a Switch owner. In my head it hardly exists for me. I do have 2 teenage sons who play on it a lot. They've been playing Mario + Rabbids almost every day since E3 when we bought it. They've been slowly building Labo this summer. My one son has been playing Slime-San and my other son Pokemon Quest. So I wouldn't trade it in. And they are looking forward to Smash even though we already own it - gotta get something as a Christmas gift - and Pokemon Let's Go Eevee. They don't play Go so it's kind of new for them. But of rme it's currently all about PS4. I've nearly finished Horizon Zero Dawn and I'm about halfway through Ni No Kuni 2. And I spent a month playing God of War.
So as a father the Switch works for my family, especially in summer we when take a lot of weekend getaway trips - no PS4 in the car - but as a gamer myself, it's like I don't even own one. And I'm looking forward to either SSBU or Pokemon. Certainly not Mario Party. And I skipped tennis, not my thing either. I probably should be playing Octopath Traveler, I play a lot of JRPG, but I don't like the look of it. I'll wait on DQXI and for XC2 DLC to release.
So it's not a completely blown off year for Switch - Kirby which we all played, Mario Tennis, Mario Party, SSBU, Pokemon - plus some good 3rd party stuff like Wolfenstien, Octopath, apparently Fornite is big. Switch is getting games, just not games I'm interested in like Yoshi or MP4 or Pikmin 4, which was supposedly nearly complete 3 years ago. I bought a Switch in part b/c I thought Pikmin 4 was coming. Pikmin 3 was when and why I bought the Wii U.
@BensonUii impatient gamers? In here? Never....
@Balta666
The Switch is by essence for me because Nintendo !
BOTW was done on my Wii U
Odyssey is the worst 3D Mario ever, not a bad game in itself but as a 3D Mario GOSHHHH...
And even if I understand that for some people its important to play on the go, I know that for some others it's to play QUALITY GAMES on a big screen. ^^
@Trajan "how are they targeting Wii owners"
The upcoming big Switch games this year are Super Mario Party - which looks like a casual family friendly game to me, and Pokemon Let's Go Eevee - which looks based on a mobile game to me. Both of those games I view as being more for causal gamers, ie the "blue ocean" Wii owners. Also the big game this summer was Labo. You can't get much more "Wii" than that. And Mario Tennis, with motion tennis "swing" mode, like on the Wii.
Here's an article from 11 years ago about it.
http://businessmodelalchemist.com/blog/2007/01/nintendos-blue-ocean-strategy-wii.html
@Cobalt nice to know!
@rjejr
B I N G O !
@dimi
I think you'll be able to hear about Ridge Racer and the new MegamanX before the end the year...
@ramu-chan I wasn’t referring to Nintendo in my comment. I meant that if you have more than one platform, it’s not like there’s “nothing” to play right now.
Nintendo’s under the impression they’ll still be able to reach their goal of 20 million this year. We’ll see.
Articles like this are generally a waste of time.
It seems to be beyond lots of people to
1) Step back, and objectively assess how Switch is doing i.e. desirable hardware with a unique USP, a fast growing library and strong Console sales.
2) Remember that you personally struggling to find anything to buy does not mean it has no games. That’s a personal taste thing.
3) Remember that if you have a PS4/XB1/PC and a Wii U and have played every single port that has come out on the Switch, you are very unusual.
The reality is Switch is building a strong library in many areas. It has a growing selection of ports for those who’ve missed them and/or want them portably. It has a very strong indie library providing perfect handheld experiences. It will be selling to the mass market this Christmas with new Pokemon (plus a spin off), Smash, Mario, Zelda (plus a spin off), Splatoon, Donkey Kong Country, Mario Party, Mario Kart, Bayonetta, Kirby and Monster Hunter. And no, it does not matter that some of those were on Wii U. It also has exclusives like Mario v Rabbids, Arms and Octopath. In terms of big mainstream names it has FIFA. It has Fortnite. It has Crash Bandicoot. It has Rocket League. It has Sonic. It has Just Dance. It has portable Doom, Skyrim, and Wolfenstein.
To most people it is drowning in games.
@Yorumi
“I'm fairly satisfied with my switch but I still can't help think of my nes, snes, or even n64 where I'm still adding games to my library 20 and 30 years later. ”
To do a fair comparison though, how many of those games were on the NES/SNES/N64 16 months after they launched? N64 in particular was very slow in building a library.
@LUIGITORNADO
Eh? If Switch was your only Console that means you wouldn’t have played any of the ports and would have absolutely shed loads of new games to buy.
@Cobalt Is that bingo for #61 or #157? I'm guessing it's not for #154 as that's a bit "pro Switch as 3DS replacement" for this article and these comments. 61+157 are kind of each half of the same comment.
I got my Switch about a month ago and I'm more than happy with it. I've hardly even touched Zelda or Mario Odyssey but already have 30 hours into Octopath Traveler. Right now the only thing I feel like I am lacking on the Switch is Fire Emblems. I wish they ported Awakening or another FE game over while we wait for the new one (not warriors)
@electrolite77
" N64 in particular was very slow in building a library."
Excuse me BUT even on a system like the N64(system that was considered as a "NO GAMES SYSTEM"), this is what ONLY Nintendo published.
I don't count games published by Konami or whatever other publishers, only Nintendo :
_Killer Instinc Gold year1996/1997
_MarioKart 64 year1996/1997
_Pilotwing64 year1996/1997
_StarWars Shadows of the Empire year1996/1997
_Super Mario 64 year1996/1997
_Wave Race 64 year1996/1997
_Blast Corps year1996/1997
_Bomberman year1996/1997
_Goldeneye year1996/1997
_Mischief Makers year19971998
_StarFox 64 year19971998
_Yoshi's Story year19971998
_1080° Snowboarding year19971998
_Banjo-Kazooie year19971998
_Bomberman Hero year19971998
_Donkey Kong 64 year19971998
_F ZERO X year19971998
_Zelda Ocarina of Time year19971998
_Mario Party year19971998
_Pokémon Stadium year19971998
_StarWars Rogue Squadron year19971998
Now, tell me if you think that there are more LEGENDARY games on the 2 first years of the N64 or on the Switch ?
Really... :/
@rjejr
The #157
I'm totally agree with you.
@Cobalt Yeah that's what I thought, just checking.
Nintendo should also focus on exclusive new RPG title. Would be nice if it was something that's coming from Nintendo
@Yorumi
I reckon by the end of 1997 it had 50 or so games in total, including the Japan-only obscurities and thirdparty duffers like FIFA and War Gods. It was very slow going, made bearable by the 10 games that were the best of the best at the time but it was long periods of literal drought. If you didn't like E. G. Blast Corps or Turok you had nothing that month. Oh the halcyon days of trying to convince myself that Multi Racing Championship was good 😉
@Cobalt
1) Why are you comparing 2 years of the N64 with the Switch, which is 16 months old? That isn't a fair comparison.
2) Why have you included lots of games that didn't release in the first two years of the N64s life, let alone the first 16 months? That's a very unfair comparison. You've got the likes of Dk64 which released over 3 years after N64 launched.
The actual games on your list that released in the first 16 months of the N64s life is....
_Killer Instinc Gold year1996/1997
_MarioKart 64 year1996/1997
_Pilotwing64 year1996/1997
_StarWars Shadows of the Empire year1996/1997
_Super Mario 64 year1996/1997
_Wave Race 64 year1996/1997
_Blast Corps year1996/1997
_Bomberman year1996/1997
_Goldeneye year1996/1997
_Mischief Makers year19971998
_StarFox 64 year19971998
Not as impressive is it? Especially with three of them (Bomberman, Killer Instinct and Shadows of the Empire) being average at best leaving you with 8 worthwhile games. Then to do an actual library comparison you have to acknowledge that third-party support on N64 was almost non-existent at that time, with only Turok, Doom 64 and ISS64 being really good. 11 worthwhile games. I was there. Great games when they made it out, but it barely counts as a library. More of a bookshelf.
@electrolite77 - agreed, compare to the current Switch Library -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games
1231 games for the switch in just under 18 months. Yes, a bunch are indie mobile shovel stuff, and a bunch of ports that hardcore Nintendo fans already got on their WiiU, but there are still TONS of new AAA titles in there. I'd dare to say TOO many for it to stand out. The attach rates for Splatoon, BOTW, Mario Odyssey and a few others are amazing vs averages.
I'm sure there will be plenty of "blue ocean" titles that still crop up in the life of the switch, but if they didn't cater to those fans (and there definitely ARE fans to that genre as well), what kind of game company would they be?
On the WiiU ports - why not port over an exclusive title from a system that never took off and allow the 20 million people, many of whom never purchased a WiiU, to enjoy these games as well?
(all of the sudden I'm reading this in a bad Arlo impersonation).
@electrolite77
I don't know if you know that but the N64 was available in France in September 1997, that's why you probably didn't get my post right.
But still, what I have today as EXCLUSIVES with the Switch FROM Nintendo after 17 months (yeah 17 because we are 10 days from August...) ?
Arms
Xenoblade 2
1 2 Switch
Mario Odyssey
Snipperclips
The N64(Again, a console considered as a "NO GAMES CONSOLE") :
_Killer Instinc Gold
_MarioKart 64
_Pilotwing64
_StarWars Shadows of the Empire
_Super Mario 64
_Wave Race 64
_Blast Corps
_Bomberman
_Goldeneye
_Mischief Makers
_StarFox 64
Don't you see the difference or not ?
Because from my perspective, Nintendo is freakin' LAZY today... Don't you think ?
The N64 list makes me dream compare to the Switch one... AND BY FAAAAAARRRRRR !
@Cobalt
“don't know if you know that but the N64 was available in France in September 1997, that's why you probably didn't get my post right.”
Ok but that isn’t the launch date.
“But still, what I have today as EXCLUSIVES with the Switch FROM Nintendo after 17 months (yeah 17 because we are 10 days from August...) “
16 months and 15 days
“Arms
Xenoblade 2
1 2 Switch
Mario Odyssey
Snipperclips”
You forgot Splatoon 2, Kirby Star Allies, Flip Wars and Mario Tennis Aces.
“The N64(Again, a console considered as a "NO GAMES CONSOLE") :
_Killer Instinc Gold
_MarioKart 64
_Pilotwing64
_StarWars Shadows of the Empire
_Super Mario 64
_Wave Race 64
_Blast Corps
_Bomberman
_Goldeneye
_Mischief Makers
_StarFox 64”
As I say, thats 8 worthwhile games.
But OK. If we use a launch date that isn’t a launch date, use a period of time that isn’t accurate, ignore some Switch exclusives, ignore Switch games released same day as Wii U/3DS versions, ignore third party exclusives, ignore high quality first party ports, ignore the vast difference in quantity of games on the two systems, ignore the vast difference in third party support and depth of library.... yes they’re roughly comparable.
Thats a bit silly though isn’t it?
For me. Switch is a slow year in 2018. I only brought one game - football manager 2018. Which is very well used. Theres a couple games I will buy later in the year.
I brought 6 or so game in 2017.
I expect 2019 to be the year, that Japanese Graphic Novels games start to appear on switch. Plus I expect nintendo will have more first party releases.
Still this year I have brought more games for the ps vita then the switch.
@electrolite77
Are you kidin' me ?
I TALKED ABOUT EXCLUSIVE GAMES PUBLISHED BY NINTENDO !
Why are you talking about ports, wii U games, multiplats...
The reality is :
Mario Odyssey (even if I don't like it, it's a big game)
Xenoblade 2 ( even if the game is unpolished, a big game)
Arms (Meh)
1 2 Switch (lol)
Snipperclips (meh)
Splatoon 2 (1.5)
Kirby Star Allies (lol)
Flip Wars (lol)
Mario Tennis Aces.(meh)
Now, N64 in comparison :
_Killer Instinc Gold
_MarioKart 64
_Pilotwing64
_StarWars Shadows of the Empire
_Super Mario 64
_Wave Race 64
_Blast Corps
_Bomberman
_Goldeneye
_Mischief Makers
_StarFox 64
God you need to be really a PR or to have an incredible bad faith if you don't get the problem with the NINTENDO of today.
@Cobalt
1) You're taking your opinion as fact. Learn the difference between objectivity and subjectivity. You're not alone in failing this, as I said earlier up, but do try.
2) I'm not talking just about exclusives. I'm talking about the library as a whole. You may be obsessed with exclusives for whatever reason, I'm not.
3) Try not to get so upset when people have a different opinion.
4) I'm genuinely laughing at the idea that anybody who was around and playing N64 in 1997 can disagree that it was very slow in building a library. Maybe it's because I've reread some of the magazines from that time a few months ago but I can't see how anyone who was there would think that a questionable statement.
@electrolite77
1. You are still trying to clutch at straws.
Anybody who has objectivity cannot denied that the line up of the Switch is mediocre in term of exclusives compare to a line up with Mario 64, WaveRace 64, killer Instinct, Mario Kart 64, StarFox 64 etc... Like 1 2 Switch, Snipperclips, FlipWars, Kirby Star Allies etc... can compete ! LOL
2. The point of the discussion was WHAT NINTENDO brings to the players. That's why it's a list with only Nintendo games.
3. I'm not upset at all... ^^
4. You know, just with Mario 64 back then, I can promise to you that there is NO GAME on the Switch exclusive right now that can brings the magic as it did ! NOT ONLY ONE ! Sooooo...
@Cobalt
“Anybody who has objectivity cannot denied that the line up of the Switch is mediocre in term of exclusives compare to a line up with Mario 64, WaveRace 64, killer Instinct, Mario Kart 64, StarFox 64 etc... Like 1 2 Switch, Snipperclips, FlipWars, Kirby Star Allies etc... can compete ! LOL”
You’re confusing your personal opinion with objective truth. Again, stop doing that. It’s very easy to argue the case for a system with hundreds of games, a lot of which are excellent, wielding things like BOTW, Odyssey, Splatoon 2 and Mario v Rabbids.
“2. The point of the discussion was WHAT NINTENDO brings to the players. That's why it's a list with only Nintendo games.”
No that isn’t the point of the discussion. That's your obsession. He article isn’t just about exclusives and that isn’t what I limit myself to.
“3. I'm not upset at all... ^^”
You sound it
“4. You know, just with Mario 64 back then, I can promise to you that there is NO GAME on the Switch exclusive right now that can brings the magic as it did ! NOT ONLY ONE ! Sooooo...”
....for your personally. Mario 64 is still one of my favourite games but it made a technological leap that’s impossible to replicate these days. However playing the likes of BOTW on a portable is magic to me, and has restored some of my interest in an industry moving away from what I want to play. Note I’m not saying everyone should feel the same. Just my subjective opinion.
@electrolite77
Ok now I understand better... It seems that your "PR-DNA" is so soaked by the Switch-Virus that it' over for you already !
Yeah, you can't think logical anymore, the Nintendisease took over you...
Insane the way you defend the Switch even on facts that nobody with common sense will.
Dunno if you have a job but if you're jobless, send your CV urgently to Nintendo. You're doing so great that Reggie could lose his job because of you !
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