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As soon as the Switch arrived in stores we saw the inevitable start of homebrew and hacking efforts as coding enthusiasts see what can be done with the hardware. It often takes a while for discernible progress to be made, but there have been some early landmarks for that community, including a recent claim to have accessed the system's 'kernal'.
It's now emerged that a group called BigBlueBox has successfully dumped Switch game cartridge ROMs, albeit for the majority they're inaccessible and hard to find - various forums are sensibly avoiding any links to the files. Among the ROMs there are big-hitters like The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and ARMS.
One key point to highlight is that while the ROMs have been successfully dumped off cartridges, they're currently unusable, with no way to run them on Switch hardware. It's not actually uncommon for ROM dumps to emerge as an early step in hardware hacks, but often the apps and means to use them on the systems don't emerge for months or even years.
There is a sense that multiple groups working to hack and manipulate the Switch are eager and making some progress, especially after various 'successes' on 3DS. As mentioned previously, Nintendo is offering financial incentives to hackers that highlight and resolve exploits in the Switch, and there are the usual ethical concerns. Even if you decide to push outright piracy aside as a motivation, producing exploits for homebrew can have major financial and business implications for various companies, including Indie developers.
Nintendo will no doubt be monitoring the progress of various groups closely; it seems we could be in for another generation of tit-for-tat between hackers and system updates.
[source neogaf.com]
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Do you really need to keep advertising this kind of behaviour @NintendoLife?
Are you going to spread the word when its hacked to the point it can run these ROM dumps?
@Folkloner
I agree entirely. I am all for freedom of the press but I have noticed an increase in this sort of story lately.
If i was one of these hackers I'd be doing it for that potential 20 grand reward from Nintendo rather than some anonymous high fives from the hacking community.
i find it fascinating, I wouldn't say its advertising piracy or anything.
@lemonjellydude they'll get there eventually. Publishing stories about the 'road to piracy' makes it all the easier to post the story once the hacks have got that far.
Nintendo Life isn't promoting or advocating for it of course but with the readership and the reach they've got, they they are then helping to spread the word.
I'm curious if the rom contents are actually decrypted or not.
If they are, that will mean data mining is possible.
@Folkloner "Complicit"? What NintendoLife is doing isn't a crime. They're reporting Switch related news and it's very interesting. The Switch clearly wasn't ready for launch, e.g. no VC, only now getting that shambles of a voice chat app, a lot of ports, Netflix, Youtube, etc. Nintendo are finding their feet as they go along. It's why I believe there's no web browser. Nintendo are trying to reduce possible avenues for hackers to, well, hack the system. But it's still not stopping them. Piracy is one of the biggest threats to Nintendo and they well know it. It's why they now pay people to try and help them prevent it.
Before this comment sections spirals down to pointing fingers at Nintendo Life for doing their job (which is to report the news) I would like to remind all that information should always be reported for a better open society for everyone. One day they may hack and crack the Switch, but just because that day will come sooner or later you are still free to chose what to do with that information. Human history proves that withholding information of any kind is usually more damaging in the long run. If you see something, say something.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Changed the wording. Happy now?
@Shiryu By that logic, Nintendo Life not posting stories about a community's efforts to hack the Switch will be more damaging in the long run.
Sorry, but that's complete BS.
Some might like it. Some might not.
News is news
@Shiryu
That is just stupid and wrong - once the switch has been hacked properly are you going to then promote this "news" (I don't see it as news at all) and then give detailed accounts of how it happened, links to who done it and show people how they can do it themselves, after all, news is news and information is information - by that logic everyone in the world should find out how they can lie and cheat the system (not just the switch but "the system") since that is information that shouldnt be withheld to everyone - Just because there are people out there who like to lie and cheat and hack things doesnt mean it should be promoted as to how they done it for everyone else to see how they done it - that is far more damaging than with-holding so called news on people hacking the system...
Hackers are a**holes. These people would ask your band to play at their wedding for free because it's "only music" or would ask you to draw artwork for their commercial publishing project just due the exposure with no payment..
I guess posting news about it will also help get the word out to Nintendo faster so they can start working on a system update for "stability".
Either way I appreciate them posting articles like this.
@Malanta , @Folkloner We agree to disagree. For instance: Just because a website reports on how to make dynamite, I doesn't mean I will go on about building a TNT bomb of mass destruction. Knowledge is power, but it is you who ultimately decide what to do with it. Are you really telling me Nintendo Life readers are a bunch of weak minded fools that upon reading one day that the "Switch has been hacked, download the romz and play for free right now!" will all immediately turn to into a bunch of Jack Sparrowing fools and put Nintendo out of business?
For the love of Miyamoto, man... In Portugal we have an expression "discutir o sexo dos anjos" and that is exactly what you're trying to do: a pointless argument that has been discussed over and over again every time NL posts some hacker related news.
I'm not even gonna go and try to explain the difference between someone hacking any device out of sheer joy of discovery and someone actively hacking a device in hopes of finding a specific exploit that can be used for the purpose of piracy.
@Malanta It's not "promoting" hacking. It's reporting the news, it's called journalism. Should news broadcasters and newspapers not report stories on terrorist attacks because by your logic they're promoting terrorism? Just because you don't like the news, maybe you should go stick your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist. They're not giving people step-by-step instructions on how to hack a Switch.
Dumping the cartridge is the easy part, making it usable is the hard part.
@Malanta Surely reporting illegal stuff happening is a major chunk of all news coverage everywhere?
@cfgk24 No they wouldn't all do that. You are stereotyping an entire community of people and it's wrong. Some of them are doing it as a hobby, a profession or to help improve the platform they are hacking by pointing out the details of their exploits, among various other reasons. It's not all about getting free stuff. There are a lot of people that jump on the piracy ship as soon as it arrives, sure, but not all of them. Hackers' intentions aren't always to create entryways to piracy.
You're allowed your opinion and freedom of speech so say whatever you want, but I felt the need to let you know that in my opinion you're being overly harsh on the hacker community as a whole.
Also note that I'm not one of them, I just don't like to see people stereotyping others.
From what I've read before, this seems about standard for consoles. The general consensus is that it'll take a couple of years before anything major comes from it.
@Shiryu speaking of reporting the news, I haven't seen any articles on the recent sales charts, for the UK or, in particular, this week's Japanese Chart, which I think would have the New 2DS XL debut? Much more interesting news, to me anyway!
@Shiryu
That is such a poor example - considering the amount of terrorist in the world I don't think it would be a good idea to promote how to create weapons of destruction - sadly they are fools in this world who would do it and it would cause pain to other people...so I don't agree with that example at all.
Knowledge is power - and yet it isn't, looking at the people who are in power at the moment knowledge has nothing to do with it.
Just because "most people" are sane normal people it doesn't mean everyone is - doing journalism on hacking a system is promoting it, regardless of what you think - it is teaching people it can be done and showing people progress is made, and once it has been done fully and Nintendolife DO do a piece on it (which they will as it is "news" then more people will know about and probably look into it. - the amount of dodgy roms and crap I saw on the Nintendo DS for example was mind boggling - so many people had "cartridges with 120 games on it" - if you are a parent and a kid wants some games are you going to spend 5 grand on 120 games that would last them a lifetime or are you gonna spend £50 on a cartridge with every game they want on it...for most people who have little money the choice is obviously and they wont care it is fake or not.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
As for you - all you constantly do is moan about the switch and you don't even have one and don't care for it so I have little interest in anything you have to say as everything you say on this site is negative.
@chardir
There is a difference in how things are done - Nintendolife will follow this story now and do regular updates, which I don't think is correct. - and as Shiryu compared it to a bomb - there is a difference if the news say for example "Terrorist attack kills 10 people with home made bomb" and "Terrorist attack kills 10 with home made bomb, on the follow few weeks episodes we are going to find out how they done it and give you updates on how to make it yourself" like its a god dam cooking show.
Just as a final note - knowledge is power - it really isn't - you say its your choice to do with it and it is...if you have discovered stuff and are doing things "illegal" or not quite fully legal for your own self discovery then great, its good to expand knowledge - you don't then put this knowledge all over the internet when you know the world is full of idiots who will exploit it
@Shiryu News is news. NL isn't promoting anything new. This happens everywhere. It's the standard for most consoles. It can actually play in favor for nintendo.
You´re Portuguese? Me too. From Leiria. Haven't heard that expression in a long time.
Playstation was a heaven for piracy. Some even say that Sony secretly "encourage" it at some point. Nintendo 64 on the other hand was a nightmare for pirates. Not easy to copy these huge and expensive 70$ cartridges . Yes N64 didn't have cdrom and was more secure but it was a failure compared to Playstation. GC suffered cause of mini DVD format too. I wonder if it worth it if the cure is worst than the disease. If its true that Switch dont have a web browser
to reduce possible avenues for hackers hack the system, then thats sad.
P.S: Why iphone jailbreaking community is irrelevant and not a threat to Apple? Cause most iphone games are free to play with online features so it doesn't make much sense to pirate games. Nintendo should focus more on online features.
@renato_racfr It is exactly what they are doing without even knowing it. There will never be a conclusion that satisfies both sides of the point because there isn't one and every word and time spent trying to do so is a waste.
Anyway always nice to meet a fellow countryman. You can find my in the Nintendo Life Staff page, Shiryu Games, Shiryu Music and my YouTube channel.
Well, one thing to note is that Nintendolife changed its policy about hacking consoles at one point. Not sure if newer staff knows about it. It wasn't always the case that you could find hacking related stuff here. In the days of Wii hacking, which were much more rampant than 3DS and Wii U combined, there were rarily any hacking related content. And every time such content has been posted, the editiors kindly reminded us to watch our mouths when discussing such content.
@MartyFlanMJFan Ya that would be a good story to post. I've noticed they've missed several weeks of the Japanese sales charts. It's alright for me as I find it elsewhere and I posted some of the hardware numbers in the Switch forum thread yesterday but for the general public it's a worthy story. It's especially strange when this was the first week of New 2DS XL sales from Japan(~43,000 I think it was). Switch had a slight bump too, up from the usual 25,000 to 31,000 most likely in anticipation of Splatoon 2's release.
Someone is going to make a Switch emulator soon. It will be easy, it's using Nvidia and ARMS chips, not some weird Pica200 or Hollywood chips.
@dimi there is a good reason (ok not only one, many good reason) why I immediately bought a Switch and I'm a Nintendo fan while I never had an iPhone and I hate Apple. I also hate online gaming and online features in games, just to make it clear. I despise piracy but please don't bother me with "solutions" of this type, I would just give up on gaming if Nintendo did such a thing
@Folkloner like you I would rather stay completely oblivious to the world around me. I wish news sources would only promote content deemed appropriate by publishers and other 'safe' sources. I am just not able to deal with the real world.
Oh this is great news, seeing how the most I've done with my hacked 3DS is dump and patch Monster Hunter XX to play it in English (And soon Dragon Quest Monster when my cart comes in the mail. Imports takes for ever). Makes me hopeful I'll be able to do the same to MonHunXX Switch ver if Capcom doesn't release it in the US. Also for all the people here this and goes "HOW DARE YOU REPORT THIS", piss off.
"...has successfully dumped Switch game cartridge ROMs, albeit for the majority they're inaccessible and hard to find"
That's not true. BOTW ROM's are incredibly easy to find, including the needed emulators.
These comments are hilarious. So much hate for @Nintendolife reporting on news. As countless others have said, all news outlets report on illegal activities. That doesn't mean they condone them.
all portable consoles so far have been cracked/hacked, there is no reason for the switch not to be
but it will remain a best seller anyway
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Stay away from those piracy, guys.
Temptation of hacked video games, pirated games are very alluring...
Keep supporting Nintendo by buy their original games.
@Folkloner
Its Nintendo news that is interesting to read and leave fun comments behind. It can lead to some fun hacks like being able to fully use the gamecube adapter for all Switch games, being able to play your LEGALLY made roms, etc.
Microsoft and Playstation don't seem to have a problem with people make ROMs of their recent system, maybe Nintendo should see what their doing and do the same if its going to be a problem with them.
Lol, I love it on here how people don't like news that is actually happening, lol.
It's part of the gaming world and ALWAYS will be. Ya have to except that. It's a big world out there. Bad things happen. What, so NL are just meant to report on Mario and rabbits or whatever it's called? Nah, I like all aspects of the gaming world, you can't bury your head to these things, there's a lot of people who like to read up onvstuff like this, doesn't mean said people are gonna throw their switch's out or stop buying games at all, that would be silly. It's called keeping up to date on a certain community online.
No, it means we are aware that our Switch library will live on on PC AFTER, we have all paid full price for our games and can still play them in the future and not worry about having a switch in ten, twenty, thirty years time to play said games, and Nintendo (if they are still around then) not taking more of our money for games you've already paid full price for.
I thank the stars for hackers. We wouldn't have the amazing Dolphin that runs GameCube and Wii if it wasn't for hackers for the past 15 years. Don't see Nintendo stopping those guys. Or even the guys who run CemU.
People will ALWAYS buy the video games they want. Just like me. But I like knowing that my games will be future proofed (something Nintendo refuse to do cause there is money to be made) when I eventually look into getting the ROMs running on my PC which will prob be in 5 years time.
And also, people who play ROMs generally have no intention of every buying these games when they come out and will prob never actually play said ROM anyway.
TL;DR News is news, NL have to pay bills too. It can be incredibly quiet here sometimes and I tend to go over to nintendoeverything more often now. They seem to report on everything there, more information on goings on tbh. But I like it here too
@ninkza wow. Do they already have a switch emulator.
@ninkza
I'm pretty sure that's the Wii U version.
@Xaessya I thought so.
@Folkloner I don't know how it works in the UK, but here in the US, there are two ways to describe preventing journalists or the press from printing articles about true events: a coverup by higher authorities, or a violation of the first amendment of the US Constitution. Nintendo Life can publish whatever they damn well please so long as the information is not erroneous, especially considering they're not even in favor of the chaotic side of this particular issue. Even if they were outwardly favorable towards modding/cracking, if their information isn't false and they're not posting direct links, as far as I'm concerned, that's their right.
There's not much people can do with these Switch ROMs for now.
@ninkza I think they're the Wii U version of BOTW. But now they've got Switch games.
I'm surprised buhahahaaha. I've seen it coming
@dimi Considering PS1 discs can have their .ISO copied with any normal disc burning program, with no copy protection whatsoever... I think they just weren't even considering all the possibilities of using CD R/W drives back in 1994/1995. Most people didn't own any kind of PC at home back then, much less one with a then expensive and new type of drive. (Even many middle class families like mine didn't!) There were probably more people who owned gaming consoles than PC's...
Maybe it'll make for an unlicensed demo shop of sorts like romsets tend to be, but running Switch games would require one heck of a device, considering that Wii U and even PS3 (seemingly even PS2 to this day!) are far from smooth emulation. So you couldn't take them with you unless via some Rainway app (bonus troll points for launching a PC-emulated MK8DX via Rainway on Switch... if EITHER happens anytime soon, that is).
@Malanta NL doesn't go that far. You would do well with a mass media reporter/pundit job here in the USA. Their job description these days is increasingly the act of making logical leaps without evidence, or basing their reports on bombastic accusations, unverified information or unverifiable anonymous sources. You got the same condescending tone of theirs down pat, too, which is great for ratings. Fake outrage and controversy sells.
Good. The sooner this thing is turned into the next PSP, the sooner we get a true home console successor to Wii U.
@gatorboi352
Or we won't and Nintendo will move completely to mobile. Who knows? I mean, Nintendo home consoles haven't lit the market on fire lately and they have said they won't compete directly with MS and PS, so there isn't a PS4 level console in the works.
Anyway, I don't condone piracy, but hacking itself isn't bad. People root their phones all the time, and playing my GC games on the Wii U isn't bad either. Piracy is another thing altogether and guys that incentive that, and actively use it, should rot.
I wish that hackers would go to prison.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE to tell you the truth I got the data myself last night from... elsewhere lol but I always enjoy reading it here, look forward to it on a Wednesday evening on my break at work. Thank you!
You should just change your site name to Pirate Life or Hack Life.
@ThomasBW84 Going to have to join the crowd here....the nature and frequency of the hack/rom related articles are starting to feel VERY uncomfortable. Emulator software/hardware related articles are a pretty gray area because it can be argued fairly that it has nothing to do with piracy or criminal activity so long as it's not playing actual licensed software. They tilt toward discussing criminal activity but on the surface aren't criminal. But more and more we're getting to GAF-posted actual articles about actual hacking/rom dumping. Often including either links or enough info to find the materials. That is simply highly inappropriate for this site. What's next, links to NODISK_CRK_ZELDABOTW_~~~~HAAPPYHAX=-).bin?
@gatorboi352 I think you mean "the sooner Switch fails, the sooner Nintendo realizes there's no more business for them in the video games industry, becomes a merchandising-and-media-only company, and maybe tries to sell fitness machines." I don't think anyone actually wants that fate. They're not going to make a PS4 competitor. Not at any point in the future unless Sony starts floundering. Not wanting to have both barrels aimed at them (again) is why they did the Wii. They can't beat Sony in cashflow. So they have to coexist. Switch comfortably facilitates that. Seriously, as a gamer, wouldn't you rather have two awesome but different consoles than two competing identical consoles? You're an XBox guy....does PS4 really interest you all that much if you don't want Uncharted and GoW? It's just an XBox with some extra games. I think we're better off having Nintendo as another device to want rather than just another XBox with some extra games.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Just curious since you keep flogging the "Switch wasn't ready" line. In your world view, should they have jettisoned the WiiU when they did (or sooner, as they really needed to), kept only the 3DS as their sole platform and launched the Switch, when, March 2018? I feel like your mind is forming "if they hadn't launched Switch 'unfinished' WiiU would have had longer support" as your baseline. The reality would have much more been they'd simply have had no home console of any sort for 6-18 months and floated only on the aged 3DS until trying to cold-start their console business with Switch after losing all presence. That would have been ugly.
@readyletsgo There will continue to be avenues of retro console use in the future, but someday, everyone will have to use Cemu to play Wii U games. (Except those ported to NS, but that's another matter altogether.) Every last Upad battery is eventually going to die and stop being produced. When that happens, all remaining Wii U systems will basically become bricks. The only recourse will be modding the system to take everything off of it and play it in Cemu or the like. I don't think there's ever been a mainstream console where that's been the case... Therein lies the downside of using proprietary batteries and such.
@NEStalgia No, I think it's an important distinction that NL does not provide direct links to the subject files themselves. (Except for a few slip ups in the past, like the fanmade Yoshi in Green Hill Zone hack.) Also, a reader must make the effort to go onto NeoGAF to find whatever they're looking for in this case. If someone does that, then they were probably already interested in doing it anyways. On the other hand, anyone not interested is probably not even going to bother with it.
I understand the concept of slippery slopes, but I think NL has a platform set that fairly limits coverage on this topic. There just happens to be a lot of progress going on recently in the area, so there's more to report on. If you ask me, on a different note, this isn't anywhere near as bad as the tsunami of Pokémon Go coverage last year, which had back to back tens and tens of articles devoted to it. I think it's the record holder by far for most articles devoted to one game in NL history. I was worried this was going to become PokémonGoLife for a while. Not to mention the back end concepts behind the collection of personal information by programs like Pokémon Go is ironically at least as sinister in it's own way as pirating.
I'm not seeing any indication of this becoming NintenhackLife.
Does anyone still believe that hardware exploits are only used for innocuous homebrew instead of software piracy? Have they looked at the responses of stories about homebrew versus running dumps?
@gatorboi352 I'm fine with my Switch, and it looks like many other people like Switch as much as I do. You don't? The problem is yours and since many people are responding positively to the Switch, it's up to you to deal with it.
@PlywoodStick Can't really agree with that one. There's a tone and a phrasing to the articles on these topics here that travel slippery slopes in a way Super Mario Maker refuses to.... (badum tssh.)
I can't help but picture the authors giggling like Bevis and Butthead every time I read one of these "We here at NL (huhuhuhuh) of course don't condone the use of pirated (hehehehehe) ROMs (buhuhu, good one Bevis! Huhu but this NEOGaf article that we're not linking to in the interest of ethics which may or may not contain the words 'Nintendo' 'botwcarthak' and 'gameluvr883233', (huhuhuhuhu) is being reported to you in the interest of Nintendo News! Next week we'll have a series of 3 follow up articles detailing the steps and an anonymous interview with one of the hackers behind this about how to get started and what tools are required to do it (huhuhuhu, Bevis, maybe they'll set it on fire! huhuhu, fire!)"
It's not just reported. There's this eager drooling over the subject and its details that is apparent in each and every article, with overt "nudge, nudge, wink wink, say no more" overtones throughout.
Certainly won't disagree with you on the datamining of Pokemon Go. 100% agreed there.
... congratulations @jimi ! You might have just posted the single dumbest post I have ever read in all my years at Nintendo Life! And trust me, you had a long list of other comments in the run, but you clearly win! You win at life! Nintendo Life!
I won't even other you explaining the difference between the rights of an individual's private data (which by the way are different depending on where you were born and constantly shifting!) and the kind of information I was referring to.
And so on this day, my faith in humanity grew a bit dimmer. Just in case I shall uphold my right to keep my accounts information a secret since you never know when I might need to use them to waste my time / have the pleasure (disregard whichever option you seem more appropriate) to reply to such distinguished attempts at reasoning.
Gonna grab popcorn, this is gonna be good.
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On that matter, I think it may be more likely that NL just knows people will flame each other over controversial topics like this. And controversy sells. So perhaps the decison makers do need to be more careful not to foment those seeds. As long as people keep visiting these articles, though, they're unlikely to renege.
@PlywoodStick yeah I was thinking that too. Right now with CemU you can switch (lol) between the main screen and gamepad on your PC monitor, it's definitely not ideal right now, but it's only a matter of time before someone makes an app to link through your WiFi that would emulate the gamepad on a tablet or big phone or something similar. No physical buttons on tables but you can still use your 3rd party controller as well. It's never going to be prefect, but that's the small price we pay to emulate systems on PC's. That's in the future though.
Like, you can emulate the wiimote pointer with the right stick on a controller now on PC. There will always be amazing ways around stuff like that.
I find it amazing what people can do when emulating Nintendo systems on PC. Fair do's to them. I certainly would never be able (or have the patience) do work on things like that.
@Shiryu well said (as always) man.
@ZurapiiYohane 'I'd rather buy my games with my hard-earned money. It has that feeling of accomplishment!'
No one is saying you shouldn't. And I pay full price for my games too. But there comes a point where I'm not going to pay €100 for a 5th hand copy of Paper Mario on GameCube for none of that money to go to Nintendo, nothing. And Nintendo don't give you an option to play it on the switch, so.... I'm gonna emulate it. And probably not buy it on switch if GameCube vc does come along because I paid my €59.99 when it came out all those years ago originally. And sure, I don't care who emulates old games tbh. It'll be the same for switch games in 5 or 10 years time. Like it is for the PS2 GameCube Wii, xbox, even WiiU now.
@Luna_110 @NEStalgia @LuckyLand yeah i was kinda half way joking
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@jimi Agreed on the topic of mass media control. Although I would file that subject under "coverups by higher authorities."
@jimi And I was always told German dudes had no sense of humor...
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Can we stop this fighting? It's getting you guys nowhere.
So much going on here.
First we hear about government corruption, world wars.
Mass media lies and illuminati
@PlywoodStick Indeed. Which is unfortunate, if NL becomes a venue where the powers that be ultimately become trolls fomenting arguments via clickbait/controversy it will descend into being IGN/GameFaqs. Perhaps it's profitable to become that and thus they don't care. If they're going to do that, why not put up PressPolitik.com and enter the fray of becoming the next Gawker? Most of us will leave anyway, and they can get their profitable cesspool after all?
Well i for one am a happy hacker fan, hack to their hearts content i say. The sooner the better and I don't give a if ppl don't like it, those ppl will just have to get over it, cause it's happening, deal with it
@Folkloner
Stop whining, deal with it, this stuff has been happening for ages and will continue to do so. It's no big deal, it's now part of gaming and no amount of complaining will change it
@NEStalgia A critical component of the Internet Troll is that they enjoy mischief making. Could it be that Damien's name reveals the truth!?
@UK-Nintendo ...You didn't know?
Ever noticed the similarity between the pyramid with its top cut off, and Ganon's Lair in the temple at the center of the Dark World in LttP? Ever notice the prevalence of everything happens in three's? The Hero, Maiden, and Emperor; the concepts of Power, Wisdom, and Courage; the mystical artifacts needed to unlock the Master Sword being in three colors? And of course. The Triforce. The One Artifact To Rule Them All.
Do you still doubt? Then here's proof, craftily hidden in the American one dollar bill:
Once you have seen the truth, it cannot be unseen.
@PlywoodStick thanks for that. My doubt has cleared totally.
I really didn't notice that on your third pic of the dollar note
@gatorboi352
NEVER !!
Switch will gonna kick your butt if you keep being so salty about them !
@readyletsgo Ultimately there's no need for you to be able to play the game though. If you don't have legal access to the GC disc, even if you disagree with current availability/price the fair move is to accept that you can't play it yet.
Justifying piracy because the Switch doesn't have a game right this moment and then saying that if it does get it you wont buy it because you emulated it already is taking the P. If TTYD is so good that you feel need to play it illicity and it becomes available on the Switch and you refuse to support it there, it's a scumbag move.
It reminds me of the people who were like "I'd buy Earthbound if it was available" to justify pirating and then acting like it was "too late" when it came out on WiiU ad 3DS VC so they wouldn't have to pay.
Stick it anyone who wants censorship. The truth doesnt care about your feelings. And if you were secure in yourself you wouldnt be scared of what others think to the point of forbidding them to think what you don't personally like.
@Petraplexity Thanks for Reading!
@DarkmarkUnited
Of course I support Nintendo by buy their original games, like I did recently for 3DS, Wii U, Switch games.
My Nintendo games are 99.99% in Physical retails.
I can always find and buy older games like NDS, Wii, GBA from internet.
Of course, genuine copies.
I prefer retail games than digital download games.
welp if they wanted to use flashcarts they'd have to find a Switch first amirite?
@DarkmarkUnited
Why should I taking ROMS from internet if I can buy older games from internet ?
That's a different case.
For new games like 3DS, Wii U and Switch. I can straightly buy Brand New copies from my local game store, give profits for Nintendo as well. But for older games like NDS, Wii, Gamecube, GBA, I can always buy from playasia or Ebay regardless of Brand New or Used (Used games didn't give any profits for Nintendo but at least I Didn't take ROMS from internet).
By morally, for me that's a different situation.
To all the anti-hackers: Seriously?
The Switch WILL eventually get hacked. And when it's possible, the people who want to do that for nefarious reasons WILL do so, regardless of what NL posts (or whatever you say in your comments, for that matter). Futhermore, they won't use NL as a source for how to do it.
So tell me, why should NL stop reporting news?
@DarkmarkUnited Nintendo won't make any money if you lend the games to your friends.
If one wishes to be absolutely righteous and honest, buy digital. This ensures no lending and no re-selling.
@TomAwsm Some people don't like hearing news that their beloved console got hacked. Oblivion is bliss.
A lot of people don't care about News around the world, they don't want to hear about hunger, disaster or war... they want to believe they live in a cozy safe world where everything is fine. These News offend them, they don't want to know.
@Nintendian @DarkmarkUnited
Although Nintendo get nothing from pre-owned copies. It's still a copy they sold, only one person can play that copy. If I lent you a game cart or disc I can't play that disc at the same time you do.
Making and distributing a copy means any number of people can play the same game from the same disc at the same time. It undermines the videogames business as a whole and devalues the game. Nintendo doesn't get money from either used sales or piracy but the potentially infinite free copies from piracy impacts the virtual console more than somewhat expensive 2nd hand market.
It's good that you support the games when they come out and delete the copies. I can't tell you what to do, I was only commenting on how piracy can lead to unfair behaviour where people play the games and then avoid supporting the developers when the option becomes possible.
I would say: Modify them for Wii u use, and its all nice!
Sorry guys, but 330 Euro for a Wii u 1.5 is faaaaaaar to expensive. And I don't see that much of a graphical leap to justify such a steep price!
@DarkmarkUnited I understand where you're coming from pre-owned games can be expensive and certain games aren't available can be frustrating. Years back I've done the same for certain games that I have since bought when they became available(e.g. Super Mario RPG).
But that's basically an honour system applied to a method that where if someone really wanted to there's nothing preventing someone from grabbing almost all of Nintendo's whole back catalog for free and never paying. The numbers even suggest that these people are more common, there's a single ROMsite that has a game, Digimon World 3 that has been downloaded 13.5 million times...the entire Digimon World game franchises hasn't even sold 13.5 million.(its downloads basically skyrocketed when Nintendo got their games pulled from that site, Pokemon Emerald had something like 30 million downloads compared to its ~6 million total sales)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_game_franchises
And in addition the latest games like Digimon CyberSleuth and Next Order have been selling worse. There's just too many people using emulation as a way to get free games and simply just don't give a toss about ever supporting the series.
@-Green- I agree and by then, Nintendo will most likely have a new competing product on the market.
Im late.... Nintendo is being smart. White Hats get paid 100k's at big companies to find exploits. Why not keep the team small and pay some kid in his basement 20k to get the job done... Nintendo is saving money by crackers and hacker....
Also to answer the question about why not take the 20k over high fives... Well apparently your not a black hat or white hat if you question that.... If you look that up, you definitely are not one.. In the community reputation is worth more than money in some sense, Look at early 80s scammer, hackers crackers and phreakers. These guys are making millions today, ethically....
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