HyperX Announces Smash Bros., ARMS And Street Fighter eSports Event

I don't see ARMS sticking around on the eSports scene for long. It's probably only included because it's new.

Here's hoping for either M2K or HungryBox to take the Melee tournament.

Competitive Smash is a joke. It's ok to watch to the masses because it's flashy but there are very few fighting games that are mechanically sound and all versions of Smash don't apply. SF5 also doesn't but it's "the current Capcom SF title" so it has to be included.

Ever since the simplification of many fighting games during the 7th generation, there is a reason why only (I believe 2?) are considered truly mechanically sound for the competitive level.

That and competitive fighting game "pros" are some of the biggest, saltiest babies on the planet.

Oh, gosh...
ARMS become an E-Sport.

@Menchi187 Typical casual, deeply ignorant, misinformed comment on any eSports-related article. Definitely a staple here at NL.

@LinkSword Once you get over the fanboyism of your Nintendo IP, facts and logic will crush you once you get into the real gaming world. Enjoy.

@LinkSword Needed to be said.

You didn't use logic though. You didn't explain how it is somehow "unsound" at all. You are just being a reverse fanboy.

Lol "real gaming world" what even

@sligeach_eire
How can you have an opinion when you haven´t even played ARMS?
To me it can be quite competitive, the ranked mode it´s about competitive, you notice it immedately if it´s a ranked match or a party one. If the game sells well and Nintendo will keep up witth new content for the game with tweeks and balancing updates there sure will be a community, might aswell enough for eSports.
If Nintendo games can gain eSports interest from other games ARMS can make it too.
I wouldn´t consider Nintendo games that much of an eSport´s, they are and meant to be children and faimly games.
eSports is established on PC with games like Counter-Strike, Quake, Unreal Tournament, StarCraft and so on

Good to see ARMS being a eSport.
But Smash crowd need to move on.
Brawl wasn't good for competitive, but 4 definitely is. I can't stand watch Fox vs Fox, Fox vs Fox, Fox vs Marth, Fox vs Fox anymore.

@Frank90
Just no. Also, you forgot to add last years EVO final matchup, Fox vs. Jigglypuff.
ARMS is a fun game but I doubt it'll be relevant in the tournament scene for long.

To be a staple Nintendo will need to get the balancing right. With so many different arms combinations that could be tricky, but with the spectator mode and solid local play Arms has a good shout for a least some e-sport success. For me personally and maybe to improve its e-sport chances I just wish they would enable the right thumb stick to control the right arm. That would put motion and controller support on a even standing

I dunno why everyone is so insistent that ARMs can't make it in the competitive seen. The best part about watching Competitive Vs. Fighter matches is the punishes and ARMs is all punishing.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE @Masticore The new Stats feature will prove an awful lot how competitive and skilled this game will end up. is good fun to play and very polished.. My friends think I am the best player in our group... Which is funny lol... (I'm not bad at Splatoon to be honest)

I neither know about nor care about "professional competitive video games", the very concept makes little sense to me, so I probably shoudln't be commenting....but some folks seem to take video games just a wee bit too seriously... "this game doesn't belong, my game belongs, it's not a complex enough game to be a sport!" Funny, Boxing has been a sport longer than virtually any other sport and it's a LESS complicated game where the primary rule is simply to knock your opponent silly until they can no longer stand so long as you use only your gloves. Nobody says that's not a sport.

I hope only motion controls are allowed for arms.
That will be fun to watch. They should build a small arena for them.

@Menchi187 "all versions of Smash don't aply". Can you explain this line without sounding ignorant?

@Menchi187 You really have no idea, do you? I've played smash casually for years, and I've been to professional level events, and spoken with some excellent melee players. Melee has the highest skillcap I've ever seen in a fighting game, due to the fact that the game can receive input faster than is possible for humans to achieve. Not to mention the constantly evolving damage stat that completely changes combos. Regardless of how many uninformed people scoff at it, melee deserves it's spot in competitive gaming.

No Smash 4? Why the hell is that not part of the event?

ARMS needs to be faster. eSports games usually have a direct line between, "as I get better, the game/matches get faster, I get faster too." ARMS doesn't really do that since there's a lot of "wait and see and consider" involved in the matches. I mean, yeah you could end a match faster the better you get, but the game itself doesn't really get that much faster. It's why Mario Kart isn't an eSport. Just an observation.

@Snaplocket For the record, I have no problem with Melee being played at the event. I just don't like seeing Smash 4 get shafted, especially since it is a really good game.

@Dang69 "as I get better, the game/matches get faster, I get faster too." ARMS does get faster. As of now, the high level meta is to use block cancelling (not sure that's the exact name) to get closer to the oppenent. I have a couple videos on my phone from last weekend's ARMS tournament at Nintendo NY. I'll upload it when I get home later, you gotta see how fast they get.

@Wichtel Motion controls may be allowed depending in the organizers. However, button controls allow for faster maneuvering and doing block cancel dashes, which is tricky to impossible to do with motion controls, and without a punch coming out instead. Motion controls almost made it to the finals at Nintendo NY's ARMS tournament, though. So it really depends in how you play.

@BarFooToo I've only participated in one tournament, but I expect all the others to stick with default Arms. That's the most balanced way to do it.

@Menchi187 Disagree... https://randomnerds.com/super-smash-bros-melee-15-years-old-still-king-fighters/

@masterLEON look forward to see the video

@Dang69 @BarFooToo

Here ya go. Match 4 of the Grand Finals, where there were a number of close quarters encounters.

And the final match of the Grand Finals, where my hand was super shaky towards the end because I was trying to plug my battery into my phone with one hand!

@masterLEON Thanks! I'm not an eSports participant (someday?) so I don't know the community so well to know if that's fast enough or not. Looks fast to me. My comments were more a coupling of my experience with the game plus what I've heard those in the community say makes a good eSport.

@Menchi187 I'm curious, what do you mean by all smash versions are not "mechanically sound"? Are you talking about things like tripping in brawl, or wobbling in melee, or even wavedashing in melee?