There Are Currently 'No Plans' For Final Fantasy XV On Nintendo Switch

"The Nintendo Switch is easy to port games to"

"Incidentally, I think that Switch would be really cool if it could run Android apps on its portable screen…"

Oh great, I think we just heard the kind of support Square Enix are looking to provide for the Nintendo Switch.

Don't mind.

I'm fine with Xenoblade Chronicles 2 on it :>
(And possibly the XCX port too)

Pulls up a chair, opens a bag of crisps.
Waits for the hilarious fanboys comments.

The decline of third party support begins.

Going to get comment on how people don't mind Switch missing another big game opportunity.

@Phin68 Porting games that it has the power to run, sure. Porting is more than just toggling a setting from "medium graphics" to "low graphics". XV struggles on current (base) console hardware as it is, let alone what is in the Switch.

Entire processes of how things function and the effect they have on others can sometimes need to be ENTIRELY rewritten when porting to a different architecture. Which can in turn break other things or cause performance issues elsewhere because it may have to be done in a more performance intentstive way than the other architectures.

It wouldn't be worth the effort to port over the proprietary engine that this game runs on. The game had enough development issues as it is.

It's been out for a while now and it isn't an evergreen title either.

Don't care much for FF anymore. That series is dead to me, it's been so since XIII in my eyes. They can keep it. Project Octopath Traveller looks a million times more interesting to me. At least it appeals to my taste a lot more.

Bad news and seriously an X in the cons column for getting the Switch. The checks are already so high in this PS4 pros column. Including the fact that PlayStation would be cheaper.

I am not surprised honestly. It would be one of the more technological marvels of the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. On another view, maybe we can start tweeting out encouraging Square to look at the switch more often, consider this game, consider that game. Nintendo fans that want these games on the Switch really need to be taking the initiative, not the 3rd party company, not Nintendo, but the fans prove that we have a demand.

I'd rather have Kingdom Hearts

Doesn't really feel like a loss; on paper the game's selling points were identical to XCX which launched winter 2015. I'd personally be far more interested in Tales of Berseria.

@Nik-Davies Agreed. I'd buy the upcoming Kingdom Hearts Remix collection on Switch in a heartbeat.

Darn it Sasuke.

@IceClimbers Squenix is trying very hard to make it a evergreen title though, they still have maybe 200 people working on it and DLC coming out all yesr.

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2017/02/70_percent_of_final_fantasy_xvs_team_is_still_focused_on_the_game

I always figured if Switch was going to get FFXV it would be the finished version sometime next year. It's an Xbox One title so Switch doesn't need PS4 power. I know it will never happen, but it would be nice.

Ok, now Squenix needs to get onto things like getting KH3 and the FFVII remaster onto the Switch. Nintendo should really be forcing the issue at this point, tell them when 3DS support will end so they can move to Switch.

@Xaessya People are either going to be upset that this isn't coming, or feel like they aren't missing anything. You predicted one of the two possible opinions, congrats.

Let's not make the same mistake 3rd parties did on Wii U. Don't port games that have already been out on other systems for full price. Don't give me the old FF, give me the new one. Anyone who wanted FF 15 already has it. I wouldn't choose to port it.

Aw I'm so sad.

Meh.

@Nintendo69 agreed

@rjejr Nintendo aren't going to throw about a 60mil+ installbase for a console that could still fail and arguably has more negative info by the day.

To be honest, I don't want a modern FF.
I want a 16 bit snes style jrpg, so I can revel in nostalgia when Nintendo were a technical powerhouse, and at the same time sneer at modern graphics because modern games that aren't on Nintendo are rubbish.

Honestly, I don't think it's worth releasing any AAA game on the Switch that's already been out on thw other platforms. So this news doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Like they already said, Square Enix should look at developing unique exclusive games for the Switch, that way they can attract those who already own a PC / PS4 or X1.

Booooooo.

Good. It's a boring game.

Are people here really not bothered by this?!
I mean, this is another AAA game that will not be on Switch.
If this game isn't getting ported what makes you think Kingdom Hearts 3 will.

I don't care at all with FF XV.
I ONLY care with Miitopia 3DS.
Nintendo, Miitopia English version please.

Honestly don't care. If I was I'd have bought it on my PS4 already. Same stand point most consumers would be in so why waste money bringing it to Switch? If you wanted it you'd have it already. Whether final fantasy xvi comes to Switch or not is an actual talking point

@Nintendo69 Unless they were waiting on the Switch lineup to finally pull the trigger on a new console.

I don't know about you, but I'm sick about spin offs or second class games ... Nintendo Switch deserve first parties first class principal official and sequencial titles, not remake remades or reborns

Even if they could release it on the switch, it would run terribly and look even worse. It just doesn't have the power for that kind of game.

Lol. I love the comments. It's full of
"I don't care. I don't care"

I really hope solitaire and Rubik's cube make it to the switch

I'm rather disappointed but not entirely surprised. As a Nintendo exclusive gamer, I was really hoping to see this on Switch. I'm interested in the game but not enough to drop $450 of my already practically nonexistent income on a PS4 just to play it. If we could at least get the FF7 remake, that would be great.

The game, much like RDR2, isn't even coming to PC right now, so there was no way it would come to Switch.

The last comment about Android apps on Switch is both ominous and ridiculous. That he said it suggest a desire within Square Enix to shove their mediocre mobile games/ports onto the Switch, which I don't see as a positive in any capacity.

More so, the idea that Switch should run Android apps is absurd and only allows for a torrential flood of poorly optimized software that makes poor use of the system's capabilities. Doing so could overwhelm the marketplace and encourage cheap, low effort ports instead of establishing a platform where developers can be rewarded for their effort and overall investment.

At least we're getting the Final Fantasy VII Remake from Square-Enix on Switch, right? It's not at all like how Kojima and Konami trolled and used the Wii to get some publicity in Smash Bros. for Metal Gear and then blanked Nintendo consoles since. Nevermind the history that went before that. Where was Kojima this week and what was he wearing? A game that won't end up on Nintendo platforms. Surely Nintendo didn't promote Cloud, a character I regard as being from Sony and has never appeared on a Nintendo home console, surely, they've not been used again and we'll get something in return and Sakurai hasn't once again let his friendship interfere in the greater good of Nintendo.

At the very least, can we have FF games on Virtual Console this time Square Enix? They were sorely missed on Wii U, yet all you give us is FF Tactics Advance and Orge Battle 64 this week in Europe... o.o

Ahh man total bummer. I dont have a ps4 or xbone.

Was totally hoping ffxv would be ported. Please tell us if ff vii remake is coming?

@Firelork The difference is that KH3 runs on Unreal Engine 4, which will make it a lot easier to port. It also should be far less demanding of a game due to the art style and the fact that it isn't open world.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE FFVII remake is coming to the Switch? Last I heard it was a PS exclusive for one year, and then Scorpio. I haven't heard a word about a Switch version.

all of this reminds me so much of wii u right now where we started to hear "game X won't come to wii u"

FFXV uses SE's Luminous engine, which they would need to port over to Switch before they can "test" the potential of the Switch with the game. They did say it might run, but chances are slim to none when they have to add another step in the porting process, unlike games that use officially supported engines like UE4, and this is for one single game.

@JohnGrey There hasn't been any word on FFVII Remake coming to any platform besides PS4. They've never mentioned PC or Xbox One.

Only thing we know is that it's timed exclusive to PS4. Sony's contract might prevent it from coming to XB1/Switch for all we know.

This was actually a surprisingly good game, it's a pity it isn't coming. Would re-buy a portable FFXV (maybe complete edition or something?)in a heartbeat.

I hope KH3, being developed with UE4 and all, makes it to the Switch - that series is a perfect fit for Nintendo's audience and I would love to see a KH with Nintendo characters instead of Disney's.

"Incidentally, I think that Switch would be really cool if it could run Android apps on its portable screen…"

I REALLY hope this wasn't a development hint....

@IceClimbers That was my assumption. For me XB1/Scorpio support was always going to be contingent on how FFXV did and, well...

I'm personally dubious about SE committing to an episodic game with the Switch being as big a question mark as it is.

They could barely get it to run on current hardware.
There is no way they put enough effort into scaling it down to something that could run on a Switch.

You basically had to make it from scratch.
Best chances are spin-off. And even then, there are plenty of Nintendo exclusive FF Series around that could use some more attention.

I thought these rumours lasted up until XV release and revelation that the team was going to keep polishing the already released version throughout 2017 - including main story patches of all things which gotta be a first for the series. As Tabata just confirmed, they haven't even tested Switch yet.

Like with just about everything, I would certainly prefer to play FFXV on Switch instead of PS4 which remains rather arbitrary in its remote play conditions. But I have FFX-2 to finish, FFXII to play starting in August at earliest, FFXII RW to finish and maybe even FFXIII [trilogy] for another playthrough if Square Enix actually re-releases it somewhere. THEN I'll see whether to get/expect FFXV on Switch or to grab it on PS4 after all. Take your time, Squeenix hardware testers. XD

Meh.

I believe VII and XIV were also rumored. Any word on those?

So, the Switch might very well be another Nintendo console lacking in AAA 3rd party support.

After that demo on Conan O'Brien I'm totally OK with this.

this is jsut a problem with middleware. once these guys start considering the switch in their cross platform deployments, the games can/will/should/hopefully show up.

@Kafei2006 I'm with you. XV looks nothing like a Final Fantasy game to me, and the VII Remake completely lost my interest when it turned out to be an episodic Action RPG. Project Octopath, on the other hand, is interesting.

The fanboy comments here are outstanding. They don't care for another big game not coming to the Switch. Hell they don't mind or better yet their okay with this.

Wii U: Criticized for getting 6-month-old 3rd party games

Switch: Critized for not getting 6-month-old 3rd party games

Yeah... I couldn't see it running well on the Switch. A shame for people that aren't able to play it, it was a really good game.
I suppose you can pretty much cross FFVII off the list as well...
Something I was wondering before when DQXI was announced, there's a Switch version right? But will it be a downgrade of the PS4 ver or an upgrade of the 3DS ver?

Disappointed but not surprised. I was planning on getting the eventual PC port anyway.

Incidentally, I think that Switch would be really cool if it could run Android apps on its portable screen…

It won't be the biggest deal if FFXV doesn't hit the Switch; I do have a PS4 for everything non-Nintendo that piques my interest. What galls me the most is that they see it as a dumping ground for microtransaction-riddled mobile games.

Shag that! You want my money Square then you're gonna have to pony up some proper games. Makes me question what Octopath Traveller will end up like when it finally arrives.

@Galactus_33 I do hope you are joking.
While I am eager to see if we will see the third party decline as foretold by the ancient Wii U and 3DS blog pre-launch blog posts, anyone actually expecting a portable as thin to run FF XV and not melt, would be quite delusional.

This is not surprising at all. Games that actually ARE coming to Switch will be what's surprising to hear.

@gatorboi352 Too true. If there are more releases set for the system soon it wouldn't make sense to keep your cards this close to the chest. But it would if you had no cards at all.

The PS4 can barely run FFXV as it is, this is the least surprising no port confirmation possible.

Hopefully, Tabata is hinting at something with that "Android apps" comment!

@Firelork Honestly I think the art style being less technical is why KH3 should make it to Switch. Heroes is and also new DQ games. I think KH will be announced for Switch at E3.

@Zadaris precisely.

Btw here's another game not coming to Switch: http://www.polygon.com/2017/2/8/14548208/project-cars-2-trailer-ps4-xbox-one-pc

That one should sting a bit.

There are no Plans, it wouldn't run…

Ouchhh! Switch is WiiU 2 comments incoming. Also fanboys defending the console.

True is nobody can predict the future but yeah Switch is no near PS4 power at all.

This is a shame. I would have liked to see it on the switch even if the graphics weren't as good.

People relax......3rd party support is not going to be won or lost at launch with the Switch.

Some devs/pubs are obviously dubious and want to see how Switch does. It needs to be selling aout 2mil a month regularly and then more support will come. Say its sells 5-6mil units by E3 and you will see support. Nintendo is gonna have to earn it with unit sales.

Next......any Spectrum game can be scaled to any platofrm within reason. Obviousy N has done more than ever to make sure modern engines and tools are supported. Far too many ppl that know nothing about developing, coding, rendering, or anything shoot their mouths off.

Ps4/xb1/pc are essentially the same platform. Switch is going to take effort to port a major AAA title but the tools are there and it could be done.....but it has to make sense. Some games just don't make sense and won't sell well.

A real key is does portabilty matter or make sense to a game. Skyrim will be a good litmus test. Will it be adopted, will people enjoy playing it home/away.

Look if Switch does 3DS like sales its going to get lots of RPGs including DQ, Xeno, MH, FE, and many others. I stand with others that would rather see new or special project for Switch than most x86 multiplats (most, but I would love to see some).

Switch is a far far cry concept wise from WiiU. I will be shocked if it fails. It will be the home for all Nintendo project within 2yrs and I expect by next year it may be gettin released in different form factors like a lite mobile only or home only box which could both be chepaer than the hybrid

"we aren't really buying a Switch as a system for old ports.

If we want to play the Resident Evil 7s and Final Fantasy 15s of this world, we'll just buy the necessary console."

I agree. 👍

If you think Switch will get anything but Project Octopath Traveler type games from Squeenix or most other RPG companies, you're pretty delusional. That being said, I'm not bothered with Switch having the same type of game from Squeenix that 3DS had because they'll look great in HD.

@CircuitWrangler3 so you an him/her are ok on the Switch being another third party failure and commercial one because of that?

Jesus, the fanboyism is so dense no wonder Nintendo has barely survived this gens instead of having decent lives in each one of them.

I would have liked to see this on Switch but I would have liked to see FF6 on new 3DS VC even more than this, because it's the GOAT

get crackin square

Wow. Ouch.

Anyone who thinks Switch is getting many AAA-caliber 3rd-party games anytime soon (first 1-2 years) is quite literally delusional.

The game was garbage anyways. You had to watch two movies just to get to know more about the story and the pretend open world (yeah cause it's not really open).

@Kmno "so you an him/her are ok on the Switch being another third party failure and commercial one because of that?

Jesus, the fanboyism is so dense no wonder Nintendo has barely survived this gens instead of having decent lives in each one of them."

What? 😅 Dude you guys are way too sensitive about this stuff. I get it though. Much of today's tough and sometimes biased journalism has been letting us Nintendo fans down.

Anyway, I'm not a fanboy. Wow. No one's ever called me that before. This is weird. Well, I'm a gamer, yes an avid Nintendo gamer, but I've owned systems from all of the big three and enjoyed them all.

No I don't want Nintendo to become a third-party failure, dude, come on. Many of my fondest memories of Nintendo is when I had Mario and the likes of Contra and Metal Gear in one house.

I was referring to old ports vs new ports. I was hinting that we should be more concerned about future games instead of titles that have already been released on other systems. Especially when it comes to a new platform that's launching in the middle of a generation.

And, you know what? Don't take all this commotion too seriously, man. It's how the internet is; everyone reacts and most of us overreact. The Switch isn't even out yet, and you have people acting likes it's already been on the market a year. At the end of the day, we don't know how it's going to perform. I'd put my money on it being a success, but we'll just have to wait and see. 🙂

That's totally fine, in terms of Final Fantasy games it wasn't really that great anyway. So many storyline gaps it ultimately felt like an unfinished game. So much so Squenix has to fill in those gaps with paid DLC.

Bah! I say...

Just nice to know I'll never have to visit creepy diner chef dude in Old Lestallum ever again.

I have a feeling Project Octopath will be the better RPG regardless.

But still, not seeing AAA support from Square is worrisome. MAYBE Kingdom Hearts 3 and Final Fantasy 7 remake? I doubt it.

SUPER BUMMER. Oh well, FF has pretty much been dead since 9 in my book.

@geordie In your opinion.

@FragRed "Oh great, I think we just heard the kind of support Square Enix are looking to provide for the Nintendo Switch."

Yeah. The guy sounded like a feable-minded douche. Well, his loss. I could imagine a nice result from introducing this title in all its glory to Nintendo's sizable mobile audience. Couldn't you? Couldn't we all?

And, I mean, he could've at least studied the hardware's performance before making a statement, but I guess that would be too much for his schedule of pandering to Sony and Microsoft's wallets. 🤑

@Masurao But the game seemed to be well received overall...

You know what would be cool? A new FFCC game. I loved that world, particularly Crystal Bearer.

@Rotgut Are we not counting Nintendo games? Genuinely curious.

It's safe to say that none of the awesome games we saw at E3 last year are going to be coming to the switch. At least not this year. But look guys, this is not abnormal for a new platform launching in the middle of a generation. Developers were getting final dev kits, what, about 7 months ago? So cut Nintendo some slack, you know we'd do it for the other guys.

I'm thinking in about a year or two, we'll start seeing more of the kind of support that we want to see. If the Switch is successful, that is. And I think it will be, so I wouldn't worry too much. 😉

@Kafei2006 To be fair FFXV is a thousand times better than XIII.

@Masurao I'm pretty sure it's selling gangbusters according to sales reports.

@FubumblR A lot of story patches are actually free. Too be fair the real development of XV only started in the last 3 years and SE made the team release it before the end of 2016 due to licensing from various companies.

@IceClimbers Not a word on what additional platforms, but having the words "Play it first on PS4" during the reveal is a good enough indication that it's not fully exclusive to PS4.

Oh I'm shocked. No FF. It's Nintendo Switch. Nintendo games only.

@Link118

No, I'm not counting Nintendo. That's why I said 3rd-party.

I wonder if the Switch would even be able to handle FFXV. If not then I understand why they wouldn't port it over. I do hope that they'll port the Kingdom Hearts series over, though I'm not going to hold my breath.

@Firelork "Are people here really not bothered by this?!

I mean, this is another AAA game that will not be on Switch.

If this game isn't getting ported what makes you think Kingdom Hearts 3 will."

I'm so sorry you had to become a victim of all this. Look, the media has a way of blowing things out of proportion, and for the longest time journalists have allowed one developer to speak for many, when it comes to Nintendo.

An example would be what happened when Titanfall's senior developer laughed at the idea of bringing the franchise to the Switch. Journalists, most of them biased, called it a sign of the times, an indication that every other big FPS was likely going to be skipping the console. Naturally, it created a frenzy.

But that frenzy was uncalled for because in actuality, it was just one developer stating his own personal viewpoint. And, the crazy thing is the guy wasn't speaking from any experience. He was yet to come have to face with the hardware, at the time. No one was aware of that for a while either, because no one thought to ask. They all just jumped to typical conclusions.

And, you know what? A lot of this isn't Nintendo's fault, believe it or not. Even if Nintendo was a constant industry leader in hardware sales, we'd still have this problem (see 3DS) because Nintendo is seen as the odd man out nowadays. If Nintendo, like Sony and Microsoft, embraced the concept of creating its own gritty shooters, ultra realistic racers, and other things that big thirds tend to put out these days, the company would be better understood, and would perhaps get games to match its own.

Unfortunately, that's not the situation we're currently in, but Splatoon and Arms may be hints that Nintendo is heading in the right direction as far as embracing modern gamers in a unique way. 👍

Honestly? If you haven't already played it you're not missing much.. I strongly feel that Square Enix dropped the ball hard on FFXV.. the game feels extremely bland which is so frustrating because it truly had so much promise.. I don't know what kind of developmental hell they went through.. but it clearly shows.. maybe it was a lack of direction or perhaps they were initially far too ambitious and ironically fell depressingly short.. (I played the game on the PlayStation 4 Pro)

I've read all the comments carefully before I added my two cents. A lot of people are upset that more people aren't upset at this. I have a PS4, I bought final fantasy day one. And it's a beautiful game. I was ok with it being diff. What's not ok is the story was...bland to be polite, nonexistent in many parts to be frank.

I played it to the end, and I'll say I enjoyed most of it. But would I buy it again for the Switch? No because the story was lacking. The switch would struggle to handle this game without flambéing your hands! Add to that, the majority of Switch owners wouldn't pay full price for the game, and I think it was expected not to be there.

People do want third party support. But it has to be reasonable. This game was in development when I was in grade school! What world would they have been developing a port for the Switch? So you want them to start now, so the game can be released in 2018, and flop as no one pays $60 for a nearly 2 year old port? That would be the end of that support wouldn't it?

No what "fanboys" want is an ip made for the Switch. Or, in some cases, a release alongside the other consoles. Neither of those things will be happening in the first 6 months of the switch's lifetime. I understand the feeling of dread with every" not coming to Switch" story. Let's just be realistic. There won't be anything coming until after E3, and in my opinion, not in 2017 full stop. They want to see how this will sell first.

It starts with E3, it will make or break over the holidays, and 2017 will be when we see if third parties intend "Switch" it up.

Surprised, not surprised!

Better, because this game sucks. A LOT.

(in any case is a big Sony exclusive right now. Guys, must be something can sell this potato)

Brutal on multiple levels. First, it isn't happening. Second, it wouldn't run - but get those Android apps on there! Third, the classic, 'We love Nintendo... as long as others are making the games.'

Ouch.

@FubumblR
Wow...
I heard much about FF XV.
Thanks for the information.
Definetely Will NOT play FF XV whatsoever.

@CircuitWrangler3 I admire your positivity, but these stories cannot be spun as good news in the run-up to any major console launch, especially after the failure of Wii U. The fact is that third party support is as limited or worse than it was for Wii U. The big difference this time is that the hardware is actually desirable. But it is still a machine that won't play a majority of the most popular modern games.

Not too bothered. The Switch is destined to be the best place to play true JRPG's anyway, due to the likelihood of it becoming Japan's top selling console.

No big loss for me

@NIN10DOXD

Fair enough, I suppose. Hope the licensing issue was not involving Coleman or Cup Noodles, because that would be sad. Regardless of the reasons, doesn't really excuse the fact that an unfinished game was released. Just saying.

@Anti-Matter

To be fair, it wasn't the worst game I ever played. Just feel like they could've spent a little more time on it.

I don't understand how people on this website can get so hyped for third party games that are only worth about 10-20 dollars, and then when a big, high quality game like FF 15 won't be on the Switch, everyone's just like "Oh, who cares about Final Fantasy anyway". FF 15 on the Switch would have been huge, and would have been a very hopeful sign for other AAA games to show up on the system. Please drop the overzealous fanboy attitude. I know 80% of you would be peeing your pants out of sheer joy if FF 15 was coming to the Switch, but now that it's not, FF 15 suddenly sucks and is no big deal.

@AyanamiReign You're overlooking a crucial fact. Everyone keeps talking about wether or not the Switch will handle "PS4 and Xbox One ports" when that subject is actually moot, because Most of today's AAA multiplats are actually PC ports. Nintendo knowing this, wisely skipped the two little fish, PS4/XB1, to go after the big fish, the PC. This has actually been confirmed in an interview with a company exec.

The Switch is designed to handle PC ports with relative ease. It's not specifically designed to compete with the Xbox One and PS4 on power, because that won't matter in a year. And I'm sure that constructive input from many developers, made that fact clear, as the company was introducing plans for the future console to them.

And think about this. A mid range PC will now wipe the floor with a PS4 or XB1, so how are they still getting the latest PC ports? The same way that the Switch will: architecture. We talk way too much about raw specs these days, when it's architecture that now makes the industry go 'round.

@FragRed I pray you are wrong or I will cry like a big baby

We don't want ports of old games that are total rubbish. After this game has already bombed, how many would buy it for the Switch?

@KirbyTheVampire FF15 has always sucked, just like 14 and 13 and everything since the mostly decent FF10. That's why each new FF game jumps the shark in a desperate attempt to gain hype, before bombing with rubbish reviews from all but the most dedicated fans.

Not really surprising if you look at the Wii U launch. It had over 30 games, most of them ports of 6-12 month old AAA titles and basically no Nintendo games (New Super Mario Bros U and Nintendoland) and the next big game was Pikmin 3 in August (9 month after launch!).

Almost every publisher was disappointed with the sales. How well will their old ports sell on the Switch when this time around we do get a big Nintendo title almost every month?

We might see ports of AAA titles in 2018/19 if the hardware sales are good but I wouldn't hold my breath for getting the next Battlefield or CoD.

@KirbyTheVampire unless all you think that counts towards a good game is AAA graphics and nothing else, including a coherent story and fun gameplay.

That's a shame. However, I'm hopeful some FF spin-offs could show up on the system.

In addition a lot of people made fun of the fact that PS4 and Xbone got "remasters" of games barely a year old and now everybody is suddenly demanding the same thing three years later?

Nintendo fans only buy Nintendo consoles to play fort party games like 1,2 switch anyway so no worries

@Anti-Matter That's the kind of mentality that makes Nintendo not as profitable in the console marketspace as their competitiors.

@KirbyTheVampire Well I for one really liked it and thought it would be awesome on the Switch seeing it was my first final fantasy game I thought it was pretty special. It had some major flaws in the latter half but overall I liked it. Games like this in a portable mode still seem like a dream.

Aaaaand another big 3rd party bites the dust. Well, at least we can expect some mobile ports from them

Lololololol

Seriously, this kind of behaviour is toxic. I've gone through the comments and people have tried to justify it not coming to switch by saying the game sucks.
1) That's your opinion. Whether it sucks or not, more games will make the Switch more popular.
2) It will prove the Switch can run modern AAA games.
3) Most of you are salty that many games are skipping this system. You're making it worse.

Some of you said FFXV bombed. It didn't. It broke even day one.

One of you said that the PS4 and xbox are PCs, making them easier to port to, then saying Switch is easier to port to. A Tegra is a mobile chip, different architecture.
You're not making sense.

But hey, every AAA game not coming to the Switch isn't worth it, am I right?

@Firelork

Agreed. What's the point in boasting such a fine list of 3rd party developers if these games never maker it anyway. Obviously a lot of these names on the list are empty shells. Even if Switch does as good as the Wii, bottom line is that 3rd party support sucked major balls on that one as well.

Final what?we're getting xenoblade and megami tensei. No worries here. Must admit FF6 is still one of my favorite games,but that's a long, long time ago. Final fantasy these days lost its charm.can live without it

I wonder how much of the game the people taking a line of "Good, the game is garbage" have actually played

Final Fantasy died after X, they got rid of turn based battles and destroyed the whole franchise

Who wants to play a game about a bunch of emos anyway??

No need anyway. The game isn't that great. If they would have a great new Final Fantasy game i would love to see it on Switch. Butt XV isn't a big loss anyway

Comments like it' sucks or crap game anyway
Lol Fanboys deserve what they get and in many cases that's nothing. The Twitch gets worse by the day the only games I hear about leading up to launch r the ones that won't be coming to Twitch not ones that will be released. Many comments saying who wants old ports from different machine but all go crazy for MK8D from different machine. Nothing worse than Fanboyism and Ninty fanboys are by far the worst by a country mile. Suck it up boys cause this will be the everyday norm for Twitch. Articles like this will be your future sadly

Square is not porting their high-profile games to a Nintendo console; "super excited" for Project Octopath, though.
In other news, water still remains wet.

The amount of cognitive dissonance here is staggering. First of all, FFXV got rave reviews and financially broke even on day one. So let's not get all childish and scream that "it sucks" or "sold horribly" or anything like that.

Secondly, even if you would take the mature approach and simply say "Hey, I'm not that big a fan of FF anyways, so no loss for me", don't forget that for a console to flourish, it needs to appeal to more people than just you. I've owned every PlayStation, Xbox and Nintendo console since the SNES, but will always be a Nintendo fan first and foremost.

That doesn't mean the last decade hasn't been incredibly damaging to Nintendo's position in the gaming industry. The attachment rate for the Wii was horrible and the amount of big IP's that have been skipping Nintendo is just beyond belief. Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, Resident Evil, Ridge Racer, Need for Speed, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Doom, Grand Theft Auto, Dishonored, Mortal Kombat, Bioshock, the list goes on. These are all million sellers that bring people to consoles, creating a healthy ecosystem, and none of these franchise have had more than one or two mainline titles on a Nintendo console in the last 10 years.

I simply buy every console that get's released and have no qualms about that. My favorite franchises are for the most part Nintendo's. But to see everybody yet again go down the road of 'Ah well, we have Zelda, so it doesn't matter if franchise X doesn't hit the latest Nintendo console', is just baffling to me. Nintendo is indeed by far the best and most consistent publisher on the planet if you ask me, but no console can thrive on one publisher alone.

EDIT: Just to make this clear, I've pre-ordered the Switch and am picking it up day one (along with 1-2 Switch, BotW, a Pro Controller and travel case). I know 100% that I am going to have a blast with this console and that there's going to be enough to keep me occupied. But it's not just about me, it's about appealing to enough people to make it a sustainable console environment. And honestly, I'm still not sure that Nintendo has learnt everything from the Wii U that it should. Then again, I am also not excluding the possibility the Switch is going to be a huge hit. It really can go either way right now.

@Akropolon There is no denying that the third party support of the Wii U was horrible and that it was one of the reasons it failed. But the Wii is a different story.

I keep hearing stuff like "The attachment rate for the Wii was horrible" and "most people bought like two games and then it gathered dust" but when I search for actual numbers to back this up, I always find that the attachment rate was on par ot even higher then PS360.

This works the other way around too, kids.

This game is uninspired, boring, runs poorly on PS4 and I don't care for it in the slightest. If you have a problem with that, you can still tell your Mom someone was mean with you on the Internet.

This series has been going downhill for years, especially if you consider what it achieved in the 90s. SE needs a good kick in the butt to wake them up. Not liking a game that is trending is not a crime. All the contrary, the public needs to become more demanding again, for our own good. If a given company does not want to maintain standards of quality, their problem, let them die.

@countzero Yes, you're right, should've been more clear about that. I meant when it comes to other developers/publishers. Apart from the fact that Nintendo counts Wii Sports for the attachment rate numbers, the best sold games for the platform are:

1. Wii Sports
2. Mario Kart Wii
3. Wii Sports Resort
4. Wii Play
5. New Super Mario Bros. Wii
6. Wii Fit
7. Wii Fit Plus
8. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
9. Super Mario Galaxy
10. Just Dance 3

In the Top 25, only 7 games weren't published/developed by Nintendo. That's bizarre. And anything but healthy for a console's ecosystem. That's only going to scare away publishers who think they can't compete with Nintendo. Were there amazing first party games on the Wii? Yes. Were there some astounding indies on that console? Most definitely. Did Wii gamers miss out on a ton of games in that generation? Wow, did they ever. From the bigger third party publishers we could only expect subpar ports, spin-offs, retro collections or in some cases borderline shovelware.

The top 30 best sold games for the Wii has Just Dance 1 to 4, Michael Jackson: The Experience, Zumba Fitness, Carnival Games, Link's Crossbow Training and EA Sports Active. That's horrifying.

EDIT: Looking at the best sold games for Wii U, it's even worse (though less subpar games, so that's something). The 17 best sold games are all published by Nintendo. In the top 25, only 3 games weren't published by Nintendo.

@Akropolon No profanity, thanks.

@KirbyTheVampire
I understand your concern about the 3rd party support. The problem is.... not every 3rd party games appeals everyone. Maybe appeals some peoples who is the fan, maybe will keep the other people say MEH whatever its franchise. For FF XV case, some people really adore it but some people say MEH despite of Ultra realistic HD graphic. Maybe it was because of their trust about brands. If they disappointed by certain brands, maybe they will never want to buy.

For my case, the reason why I don't like FF XV because.... long time ago and one year before released, I don't even like the characters looking. Looked like Yakuza or Mafia, and I don't like at all image of that criminals when being into realistic style. And the gameplay, I knew it looked like Kingdom Hearts style but still.... can't capture my attention. Instead, I felt boring and disturbed for usage of gun weapons during battle considering I hate to hear intense sounds of guns. And... when I looked at PEGI rating from latest trailer, I saw 16, and I didn't like it instantly for first impression. And further gameplay just made me more unimpressed. For some reasons, the more realistic for the game, the more I dislike the games. I'm not Hungry for Ultra realistic looking characters, especially bad guy looking or adult theme. I ONLY looking for Ultra HD Cartoonish games with really fun gameplay and colorful worlds. Sorry for bothering you. I hope you understand not every people interested with some 3rd party games.

I'm not even surprised - and no one else should be either. Maybe now you guys will stop holding people like Emily Rogers and Kate Dale up so highly... What am I saying? You guys hang on their every word - of course that won't happen.

Also, what's DB2?

Who needs old ports. We just want

Super Mario maker switch
Captain toads treasure tracker switch
Smash 4 switch
Yoshis wooly swirls switch
Splatoon switch
Mario kart 8 switch
Just give us old games with all the old virtual console that's all we want. We love Nintendo. We are Nintendo fans

@NintySnesMan So you rather see everyone moan, rage and start arguments with one another over this? I mean, it's either that or the 'fanboyism' you're going on about...

Also, as a Wii u owner with no immediate plans to upgrade to switch. Having seen a number of occasions where commenters have lauded decisions to release games on Switch instead of Wii U, I must admit to a little schadenfreude at some of the salt present here.

@Kid_Sickarus For the record; I'm one of the people that can say I have FFXV, have played it, do not like it, and don't particularly care that it's not coming to Switch.

@ThatNytedaez
I couldn't care less who argues with who that seems to be the norm on here. Fanboys are the worst gamers possible to have a conversation with Sony Ninty Xbox fanboys r all the same. I myself prefer many different games on different machines I have no preferances basically I don't walk around with my eyes shut. Whatever rocks there boat good luck to them

@ThatNyteDaez fair enough. Not everybody likes the same thing. I'm not even saying somebody needs to play it to have an opinion, I don't have to play 1,2 switch to say I have no interest in it from what I've seen. I meant the folks that declare the game, matter of fact, to be garbage as if it's objective fact.

The Luminous engine is a monster that is a pain to even optimise for the PS4 and Xbone. They had to brute force it in certain parts of the game to even get it to work. That is with years worth of man hours to even get it working on the PS4 and Xbone, so they are not going to get that mess of an engine to work on Switch in 6 months. Unlike Luminous the Switch supports Unreal Engine 4 which has become a standard in the industry so porting titles like KHIII or Final Fantasy VII remake are much more likely because they do not run on Luminous. FFXV could still happen, but do not expect it because Square Enix would probably rather invest that time and budget gettings games like KHIII and FFVIIR finished.

Why are people expecting demanding games to be ported over to Switch? There's just no grounds for it whatsoever.

I'll save you some time:
RE7 is not coming to NS
FFXV is not coming to NS

Think realistically people. NS is a new system, these developers will likely port smaller games or make new ones instead of porting huge complicated games ASAP. Absolutely ridiculous expectations.

And for the record, SE is already supporting the NS. I Am Setsuna exists and it is a SquareEnix Game. Just let them breathe, there are 10 more months in the year and E3 hasnt happened.

@FubumblR Square Enix really needs to get their act together when it comes to cmmunating with employees or they might end up like Konami.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Cloud printed money, that's why he was picked as a DLC character in Smash. Sakurai, Square Enix, and Nintendo did not care about "this character showed up in a home console game on a Nintendo platform" argument when they picked Cloud.

Cloud got in over Cecil, Terra, and all the other Nintendo-era Final Fantasy characters because of his popularity. He prints money, and I think I read somewhere that he's the best selling DLC character. He's damn popular because I see more Cloud players then any other DLC character when I play online. Adding to this is the fact that he's considered the second best character in the game, and is pretty easy to pick up and play.

Plus, I think Sakurai's rule was that a character had to be both debut in video games (so no Goku, Naruto, or Batman) and had at least one appearance on a Nintendo platform.

Cloud had appeared on Nintendo platforms prior to Smash, as did Snake.

One other thing I want to note is that Namco almost got a fighter from Tekken as their second rep but they ended up becoming Mii costumes.

But if that had happened, three franchises that are mostly tied to Playstation would have been in the Smash series by that point.

@Kid_Sickarus Ah okay, my apologies then. I misunderstood you.

@NintySnesMan Ooh, I agree with you in that case!

Well that sucks. I was hoping this would come. Guess it was a fools hope, but oh well. I'll just resume playing on PS4 version.

Still think Cloud amiibo announcement was postponed to coincide with some sort of FF Switch game. FF VII Remake would admittedly make more sense. And getting a new game is better than getting a year old port.

We'll see how it goes at e3

This scares me a bit. I never really go into the Final Fantasy games outside of the Tactics series, but I can't help but think "what's next".
This is just the beginning. My fear is that the big 3rd party developers will keep saying that the Nintendo systems are not strong enough to bring their vision to life.

I don't think this will hurt the Switch because there are other titles that will fill in good enough if not better. Fire Emblem, Monster Hunter, Xenoblade

@NintySnesMan nicely put sir.

I'm not going to lie, I have held off on buying FFXV for my PS4 because I was hoping for a Switch announcement. Being able to play off-tv is a big deal for me when playing RPGs. So glad I only played around 10 hours of SKYRIM on the 360 because now I can settle in. Guess I'm going to have to buy a used Vita if I want to play FFXV off-tv.

Oh look, another Non News story. Just save yourself some effort and make one article called "MORE TECHNICALLY ADVANCED GAMES DESIGNED FOR MORE POWERFUL SYSTEMS WON'T COME TO LESS TECHNICALLY POWERFUL SYSTEM" and copy-paste it every couple of days or so.

@KirbyTheVampire FFXV would be as much of a success on Switch as Mass Effect 3, Assassins Creed IV, or Batman Arkham City were on Wii U. That is to say it wouldn't be worth the effort. It's a game that many people enjoyed, but is by no means as critically acclaimed as something like Skyrim. Hopefully this helps you see that this community is not being overzealous, but recognizes that it's not worth the time for SE to try and port this game for a 2018 release so that they can sell a few copies before the game is worth $20 on the secondary market and leaves everyone wondering why the AAA games that the fans wanted so badly aren't selling. Bottom line is it's an old game at this point. We are looking ahead.

Thank goodness. As popular as the series is, it has gone downhill and I don't care for it being on Switch. If they give us the old Final Fantasy games on Virtual Console, that'd be even better.

Hell, I am still hyped for Nocturne in the Moonlight to be on Switch. Ever since SSF proved the Saturn could render transparencies via software manipulation, Nintendo could take advantage of the Saturn port of Symphony of the Night since it's in SEGA's hands and not Sony's.

Don't really care; played the game on PS4 and did not really like it that much. THAT SAID, if the Switch is going to succeed with 3rd party support, Nintendo needs to meet devs in the middle and help them get games over. I think what is more important though is that Nintendo begins to get games day and date with PS4/X1. While the Switch is not as powerful as the HD twins a good install base and a bit it of cash from Nintendo will help 3rd party devs make the leap and port their games over. Heck, if Sony could get devs to make games such as Borderlands and Injustice run on Vita, Nintendo should be able to do the same especially considering the power discrepancy isnt nearly as large. 3rd party support is a big deal. For as much as I love my Wii U (and I do love my wii u, its my favorite console this gen) I had to buy a PS4 as well simply for those third party experiences. Regardless, I already have my Switch preordered. Only 3 more weeks!

This is what happens when you gimp your hardware. Although Final Fantasy XV does look awful, in fairness. That combat system is laughably pathetic.

The best the Switch can hope for in 3rd-party support is niche Japanese titles (RPGs and visual novels, etc.--what you find on the Vita), indies, ports of previous generation titles and Switch-specific ports and spin-offs (e.g. soccer games making use of motion controls, or games like Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles, etc.)

This is why Nintendo should be announcing Gamecube VC support on Day 1, with every console coming with a digital code for Super Mario Sunshine, or something along those lines. You need games from somewhere.

"Incidentally, I think that Switch would be really cool if it could run Android apps on its portable screen…"

It's okay, as long as they produce unique content for the Switch, which is what I expect most 3rd parties to do over porting, also XV wasn't very good, I'd rather a port of XIII & XIII-2 as a bundle. but either way i'd rather unique content, or releases in the same window.

@Rotgut Ah, right. You did say that.

final fantasy is one of the most dull series of games ever. I'd rather play mario odyssey

That's fine by me, I see no need for a company to waste time and resources porting over a months old game that would most likely not sell well (most who want it would already have played it elsewhere) and make other third parties shy away from bringing future games to the Switch. I just want to see some third party support with games that release once the Switch is out there for a while and has a decent install base.

Of course. No need to make a article about this.

Besides, the Switch is nowhere near the power-level of PS4/Xboxone. Beyond good and Evil 2 won't happen on the Switch either (speaking of wich: Still nothing, just some artwork?! Pathetic!). Unless its now a "Bayonetta" deal, wich I doubt.

By the way: Where are aaaallllll those awesome Switch exclusives, because I don't see any!!

I'm not very disappointed by this decision, but ANDROID APPS?!

I hope Square will remake Final Fantasy VI again and release it on the Nintendo Switch uncensored.

It's fine: I can play Final Fantasy: Bro Edition on a different system.

@Nintendo69 Exactly, yes. Sales will be disappointing, and the 3rd party company will just be like "We tried, didn't work. Sorry!", and another 3rd party publisher bites the dust (in other words, no more Switch support).

Nintendo's going to have to go it alone on this one, I think. Hopefully they've learned from the Wii U and publish consistent, high quality games.

No more years with nothing but Star Fox Zero and Color Splash, separated by months of inactivity.

I think third party support will be fine. People asking for GTAV, BF and COD doesn't really think this through. It would be NO USE for Nintendo to try and get ports of months/year old games on the Switch. Same goes for games in the first quarter of 2017. Those games have already been sold on the PS4 and Xbone. BF1, Ass creed syndicate, COD etc. would sell like crap on the switch if they got ported now. Look to the future people. Late 2017-2018 will be exciting for Nintendo.

Lol, the game doesnt even run properly on the xbone and PS4. xD

Long as the complete edition comes to PC!

It'd be nice, but SE already scoped out what platforms they wanted to do the game for. It's actually a pretty honest answer they gave. Either way, cool if it appears, but I'm not mad if it doesn't. Who knows, maybe down the road FF XVI will have a chance? It's really about that install base for the Switch-- That will determin what 3rd party games appear later on.

When was the last time a Final Fantasy game was on a Nintendo system?

Ofc not, Switch would melt instantly if it could start FF XV...

Makes no sense. They put these games on Xbox but not Nintendo? Nintendo is the brand Japan actually likes...

@DrRandle I think you've got them nailed. Those articles generate traffic which is why they run them. Works for me because I tend to go in to read the youtube style meltdowns (although I massively skim the essays).

Get on those tests Square Enix! You'll make a lot of people happy if you can get the newest Final Fantasy on a Nintendo console!

@PlaytendoGuy
Smartphone apps to be on Switch ?
Hello, Youtube !
Hello, Google !
Hello, Instagram !

Then why don't you guys give us a remake of FF6 in 3d instead? The hell with late ports just give us a FF6.

@Beau_Skunk FF6

I gave up on Square with the Wii U. Now I only buy their titles on Steam during the Winter and Summer sales for $5:99. So I could care less for FF15. Still would like to have KH3 on the Switch, But if not oh well, Breath of the Wild over Final Fantasy all day.

@CGSasuke Not counting the spinoffs, & DS remakes, yes. Expecting a new main canon FF game on a Nintendo console would be like expecting Halo for a Nintendo system. It's just not going to happen. (Granted we thought the same about Sonic & Crash Bandicoot.)

Nintendo & Square/Enix always claim they are good supporters of each other, but I have yet to see it, aside from a few Mario sports games they collaborated on. (And didn't even regard the SMRPG characters like Geno in them...) I rarely see Square/Enix games on Nintendo systems, even the WiiU/3DS Virtual Console lacks many of them.

As for SSB Cloud & the Geno Mii costume only got in, because of fan-demand.