Back when Nintendo unveiled a massive list of 'partners' for the Nintendo Switch, there were a few intriguing stand-outs. One that got some pulses racing was From Software - it's behind the brilliant Sony exclusive Bloodborne (which has as much chance of coming to Switch as Bayonetta 2 does of arriving on PS4) but is best known for its Souls games. The Dark Souls titles in particular have established a sizeable and extremely loyal audience, with the third entry in the trilogy currently working through its DLC - one add-on was released not long ago, with a second due in 2017.
The Souls games always seemed the most likely potential treat on Switch, then, and well-known reporter Laura Kate Dale has added some fuel to those logical flames; she cites a source to state that work has taken place to port Dark Souls 3 to Switch. Progress is apparently going well, with the sensible potential outcome of the Switch getting the inevitable 'Game of the Year' / 'Ultimate' edition with all DLC, which will surely come to PS4 and Xbox One in 2017. She also suggests that there's talk of potentially bringing the trilogy and all DLC to Switch; all of it rests, predictably, on whether Switch sales show that releases like these can make financial sense.
It'll be interesting to see how many of the touted partners come through for Switch; the Wii U had a list of backers that didn't quite deliver on the initial promise - companies typically wait to see early sales numbers, especially with Nintendo hardware.
In any case, we've been fantasizing about Dark Souls on the go since From Software was announced as a third-party for the Switch. We're not betting on it yet, though.
Well, I'm glad I didn't end up buying those games on my PC.
So now were gonna have a chicken/egg situation?
@UmbreonsPapa Exactly what I thought.
Switch won't sell systems if 3rd party developers won't support it. The Switch can't sell systems unless 3rd part developers support it. From is being a d#ck. I'm glad Nintendo has a decent lineup from the start this time.
@Dakt 6GB is a regular cart, think the manufacturer they're tapping is able to go up to 1TB if needed.
@jimi You do realize there are only like 5 ports that are rumored to be on the Switch, right? The vast majority of Wii U games will stay on the Wii U.
@jimi If it helps, I'm 35 and have never owned a single version of Dark Souls & never considered it. I might pick a copy up for the Switch.
Everyone I know plays Minecraft... we tend to think the people we surround ourselves with count as "everyone".
@jimi Don't buy Dark Souls then, and buy one of the many new games that will be on the Switch.
You seem to think Nintendo is unwilling to make new games. If they don't make new games, they don't get money.
@jimi every console this gen may as well be named Portstation! Nary a week goes by when we hear about some 6 month old game being 'remastered' for some odd reason.
I don't mind the Souls games, but its always bothered me has Tekken games have longer endings lol
@jimi Gamefaqs much sonny?
On a more reasonable and less Gamefaqs note let's hope this is true. I've only played 3 (and Bloodborne from the same devs but yeah that's a PS4 exclusive) and I loved it, more people who get to play these games the better. Oh and with the audience Nintendo have with this likely being the first DS experience people will have ID hope that From Software belatedly add in an OPTIONAL EASY DIFFICULTY for these games.
As much as I hate to sound like "that guy", this one of those game series I have absolutely zero interest in. That said, if this is true, then it says a lot about 3rd party support for the Switch, so I hope it is true anyway.
Have you played any Dark Souls games? Co op is only there fir people that suck and can't beat bosses by themselves.
PVP is a neat little diversion that losses all charm when almost everyone has the exact same build.
It's all about the single player.
@Shinion What is this easy difficulty you speak of? Souls games only have one difficulty: Skill.
It's always chicken/egg with Nintendo and 3rd parties. I think Switch has a good chance to get the numbers to tempt the third parties as long as it's easy to program for (read: port existing titles from other systems).
Souls coming to Switch is a "take my money" situation for me. Wish it was Bloodborne instead, but there's not much chance of that.
@jimi Go back under your bridge.
Well for one thing, all we have is a rumored and incomplete 1st year lineup. There is certainly going to be other games that we haven't heard of, both first and third party. For another, you only listed one game that we know of, when meanwhile there are others like Zelda and that Mario Rabbids crossover RPG. The Wii U first year lineup was nothing magical, and because there were no ports, we had those massive game droughts. Also, what makes you think games will play worse on the Switch? From everything we've been hearing, the Switch is a much more competent system.
I hope publishers have learnt from the Wii u. Most "gamers" already have an Xbox one or ps4. Most of those won't be looking to rebuy a game they already own. This isn't necessarily a new audience... Just one that has moved away from Nintendo.
@jimi Yawn. Don't stick around too long. If the sun comes out you'll turn to stone.
The Dark Souls series is light years ahead of Zelda at this point in regards to combat and online features.
I get the impression Nintendo has taken notes based on Breath of the Wild. Sadly, Nintendo will likely dumb it down for an all ages audience and butcher any of the revolutionary online features Demon Souls brought to the genre way way back. But hey - Zelda now has physics...
Dark Souls is really, really, amazingly good. If you like Zelda and like a challenge these games were made for you.
I have beaten Demon's Souls, DSI, II and III, all their DLC and Bloodborne. Only thing I haven't beaten is Bloodborne DLC.
Also, don't listen to picky fanboys, DSII and III are still pretty good. DSI is the best, but the other two are totally worthy successors. People just get really emotional about Dark Souls.
I don't know how they'd manage multiplayer/messages besides maybe caching them, but I hope this is true. I've played every Zelda game, every Soulsborne game and every Elder Scrolls game. Portable Dark Souls III, Skyrim AND Zelda? Thats like, the entire difficulty spectrum of good Action-RPG games. Sign me up.
@FrankJaeger Yes. This. More is better in this case. It can only be a good thing if these games come to Switch.
@jimi Someone needs to count to ten and take breathing lessons.
Let's take this one step at a time
Games list for the switch: Not final, third parties have been burned on earlier Nintendo consoles so sometimes it make sense to establish an audience first.
Ports: Resident Evil 4, Rare collection ala banjo kazooie and conkers bad fur day, No more heroes, ace attorney games, mega man games, etc. The ps/xbox/PC/mobile crowd missed out on those games and is now available on other systems and they're enjoying it. Why not us?
Dark souls on switch: there's an option for sitting at home for it.
Switch itself: specs not final.
Not happening. I don't forget.
@jimi I gave my PS3 away free of charge because I was bored of it. Been pretty much PC or 3DS only since then.
Don't do an EA here. None of this release part 3 and publically state its sales affect the trillogy
It's not down to third parties to put out games at a loss in order to help Nintendo sell hardware. Perfectly reasonable for publishers to wait and see how a machine sells before committing.
It also shows why Nintendo screwed up so badly by making the Wii U so different to everything else out there. When Bethesda came out and said they gave Nintendo feedback during development and it got ignored, many on here got angry, saying why should Nintendo do that? Well what advantage do Nintendo get by putting their system together so differently? Nothing from what we can see. You make porting easy however and you're more likely to get these multiplatform titles.
I bought a PS3 early this year mostly so that I could play the Souls games. In fact currently giving my first steps on "Demons Souls" after completing "Dark Souls" earlier this year. Now then, a portable trilogy? They would have my money down, day #1 even without online funcionalities.
Precisely. A couple of these publishers just need to bite the bullet but it will take Nintendo to convince them.
How about you release your game SO THAT it will have great sales? No games no sales. Duh. Nintendo needs to come out GUNS BLAZING to push units fast so these other publishers see the trend and get moving. 3D Mario? Zelda? Mainline Pokemon? I dont know, but whatever it is, do it.
Yep, sure am looking forward to that Armored Core game on the Switch
(Not even kidding though; I don't care about From's Dark Souls output, but I'm up for more Armored Core now that I haven't played one in a bit)
If this happened and the rest of the Switch library looks good, this could bring me to purchase a Switch far sooner than I've been considering. It'll be interesting to see what comes from it.
@jimi For one thing, it's not a Rabbids game, it's an RPG that's a Mario and Rabbids crossover. I don't know exactly how it'll play, and I really hate the Rabbids, but now is too early to just dismiss it as just another Rabbids game.
Breath of the Wild is technically a port, but in name only. A true port is something that was released on a console prior to it being released on another. This is not the case with BotW. Wii U and Switch owners will be able to experience it for the first time, at the same time. So I wouldn't really call it a true port. At that point you're just nitpicking to find any reason at all to hate the first year Switch lineup.
The gamepad thing is a shame, but there's nothing that can be done about it. The Wii U was an absolutely dismal failure, and while the gamepad idea was good, they couldn't just re-release the Wii U and call it a new console. They had no choice but to scrap the Wii U and the gamepad and come up with something new. It sucks, but that's just how it is, even if it means losing something good in the process. Having the gamepad do some cool stuff while the Switch version doesn't would only hurt the Switch, and Nintendo's future as a first party company is hinging on the Switch being a success. I'd much rather Wii U owners get a bit shafted on their enjoyment of Breath of the Wild than have Nintendo's new console not succeed. It probably wouldn't ruin the Switch to have gamepad support, but it certainly wouldn't help. And Nintendo needs to pull no punches at this stage of the game.
Nintendo is a business first and foremost, and if they just cater to their fanbase's every whim, they will almost certainly be out of the console business, maybe for good.
@jimi I agree with you on that one. I would have rather saved my money and bought a 3DS or Wii U than a PS3. Nintendo systems have such amazing first party games. The PS3 felt like an empty shell that had a bunch of meh games on it, for the most part anyway.
@Dakt Yeah still need to hear something from the Big N on cart size. So weird they're leaving info like that until January. It only breeds negative fear about the console (unless confirming it guarantees the negativity).
I mean, if DS3 is 40gb... I have to carry multiple carts with me? I know standard was 16gb rumor so could be bigger carts but...
Oh so I can get murdered on the go? I don't want others to see me curled up in a fetal position. (I would buy this like four times honestly)
I hope it's true.
I've been meaning to play Dark Souls, but I have a PC so I can't see myself grabbing DS3 for the Switch.
Do fill us in on what software the Switch will get in its first year. Given you're whining about ports, you must know how many it's getting and how many other games as well. 3, 2, 1, go....
@jimi: I wouldn't use platinum rates as a good indication of difficulty. The demographic that Dark Souls appeals to are the people looking for a challenge. The people who are going to play Dark Souls 2 are the kind of people who are looking for and enjoy facing challenges, so they'd be more likely to pursue that Platinum Trophy. On the other hand, Uncharted is getting bundled with most PS4s right now and has broader appeal. People are going to be content playing through the story once and won't find any need to get Platinum. I'm not here to debate you on anything else, but that's a flawed point.
Spot on. Wii U was a disaster and never likely to get third-party support. It's possibly the worst designed console of all time. Nintendo look to have put a lot of their mistakes right with Switch but it's understandable publishers and developers might wait. Especially as a lot of good third-party exclusive games have flopped on Nintendo consoles like the Wii (Zack and Wiki, Red Steel 2, Mad World, House of the dead overkill etc), supporting the Switch is a gamble
@Dakt And Switch probably supports 64GB cartridges. Also, disks can't compress data as well as cartridges.
@jimi did you play the DLC to DSII? It was considerably better than the base game, to the point of redeeming it into a pretty good game IMO. This coming from someone who's beaten Demon Souls and considers DSI the best.
Honestly, just because DSII and III weren't AS good as DSI doesn't make them bad games. I think they're all pretty cool, and I'm a pretty **** hardcore gamer. Also, DSI, while the best, has bad PvP compared to the next two.
It's like Metroid Prime 2 & 3. They're not 9.5s like Super Metroid or OG Prime (allegorically, Demon's and Dark Souls), but they're still 9s and a very fun playthrough. It makes me sad when people write off the games entirely, in either series.
Also also, I think Bloodborne is a different beast altogether. Not that we'd ever get it on a non-Sony system anyhows
@jimi "What the hell. Have you guys actually PLAYED any Souls game?
Multiplayer is quite an important feature. How will this work "on the go"? Wait, it won't. So you will lose quite an important feature. Coop. Competitive. Messages. And other things."
How about playing solo on the go (story)? I don't know about you, but most Souls gamers I met and myself advance the story offline precisely because of vicious invaders that had the chance to play the game more and are looking to kill people with inferior equipment.
You can play multiplayer in your house without any problem. That's kind of the appeal of the Switch: to have a portable and a console in one machine. I mean, if I'm comfortable playing my 3DS in my home despite it being a hanheld, I imagine that the switch would feel even better. You make it sound like it's something impossible or a huge problem when it really isn't. If you need jolly cooperation, simply wait to play it in your house, simple as that. Hey, they can even implement something about it with street pass or whatever these things are going to use on the go that could work as an exclusive for this version.
Reading messages isn't as important as you make it sound. I've been a player since Demon's Souls and after somuch trolling with messages, I just tend to ignore most. If you are stuck in some part without knowing what to do and you are sick of it, just search for the answer online and not on a cryptic message.
"the Wii U had a list of backers that didn't quite deliver on the initial promise"
... which is exactly my point about the "hype" of 3rd parties, or to single out Ubisoft, their apparent overjoy of Switch. If you're going to back something "if" it's successful, then SAY that and consumers won't get their expectations up. If you're in it to win it, success doesn't come without a "little" risk. I respect 3rd parties who show me where they stand with action, not with words. I will be a part of Team Patient when it comes to Switch's 3rd party support, but I will be getting the system no matter what.
This could be cool if it's true. I've never played a Dark Souls game but something about the lore and the creature design and world interests me, hence I bought Bloodborne. My only problem is I suck at it lol I just need some time to solely focus on playing it and nothing else.
Why do people believe this nonsense? The developers have made it clear that there is no audience for their games on Nintendo consoles. They've been asked about this before and that's what they've said. When asked if II could come to the Wii U, the producer laughed. These rumors are people just making things up.
@King_Johobo Once you get used to it after the first hours, the game becomes way more enjoyable and easy. It will usually punish you at some point again, but you'll end up overcoming each obstacle quite soon if you learn t be precautious and adjust yourself to what the game is demanding from you at the moment. Bloodborne was a bit harder for me because I tend to rely on shields when exploring, but I just needed to adjust to the game. I still prefer Souls games more, but Bloodborne was also an amazing experience. I hope you find the time to enjoy it properly soon.
I believe the Switch will fail. We Nintendo fans need to start pushing Nintendo to become a software company.
Zelda would run beautifully on my PS4.
"When asked if II could come to the Wii U, the producer laughed. These rumors are people just making things up."
Switch =/= Wii U.
From Software is one of the confirmed software publishers for Switch. They pretty much only make Souls games, so them considering a Dark Souls trilogy collection for Switch (along with PS4, Xbox One, and PC) makes perfect sense.
You have also probably never read a single Laura Kate Dale rumor from the past if you think she is making things up. She pretty much told everybody about the Switch/NX hardware two months before Nintendo officially unveiled it.
More likely, if the Switch fails, Nintendo will probably just crank out another system. They'll probably do it until their systems don't make money anymore. Then, should that fail, Nintendo will probably just become a full blown mobile software company, since that's where all the industry growth is at.
But IMO I don't think Switch will fail. It'll get a mainline Pokémon game, possibly as early as holiday 2017, so that should at least ensure a modest level of success for the Switch as a worst case scenario.
I'd buy this series on Switch. We'll see if it pans out.
@Al_Godoy What makes you think that?
@jimi You really love to make assumptions, don't you.
Go back to your little fantasy world, thank you.
@KirbyTheVampire Just another Nintendoomer.
So, hang on, they shouldn't release the most recent game in the series (or a trilogy compilation as it suggests in the article) they should make people wait until the next entry? Whatever and whenever that may be? That doesn't make sense. Switch is out in March. It needs software. If third-party publishers are happy to make games for it despite all the examples of third-party games failing on nintendo systems it can only be good for Switch.
Portable Dark Souls? Count me in if true.
This series has been out for years on everything else already. I don't see the addition of this series bringing anyone into the Switch fold.
@Agent721 Like the guy commenting above you?
I'm sorry, where does he say he's now decided to buy a Switch because these are coming?
We get accussed of doing the same. Just with older games.
And when Mass Effect and Assasins Creed came out on the Wii U, they were HUGE system movers too!
@Agent721 "Count me in"
Sure, that doesn't mean he's gonna buy it, but neither does saying it at all. If you want, you can ask for photos of evidence that people are preordering the Switch for that game or something.
I'm one that would definitley buy the console for that game on the go, so there's another one.
Anyone and "huge system movers" aren't the same thing. You said anyone, I'm part of anyone, simple. Real enough?
I am actually currently playing Dark Souls 3 on my Xbox One and though I love the series I won't be repurchasing them for the Switch, this is great for those who have yet to try the series though, assuming this rumor is true of course. Still if the Switch does end up getting the games then that alone makes me really optimistic about the support third parties are giving Nintendo this time around. I am sure they are willing to bring the games if Nintendo handles their end and makes the system sell!
@Dakt Bayonetta 1 and 2 released on separate discs on Wii U. I don't see multiple games being released on separate cards any different.
Also we shouldn't worry about card sizes. Even if standard is 16 GB, there's no reason (except cost) that they couldn't produce larger cards when necessary.
@Dakt Don't forget the dlc. It's still not done. We still don't know the storage capacity of the Switch. So, finger's crossed.
What, so you would rather them just not support the system and wait 3 more years until their next game releases?
This isn't some year old port of a base game that's not worth $60. This would be a Game of the Year Edition, with all DLC included. And it would be releasing same day as the PS4 and X1 versions.
It seems to me that you're scared. You're so scared people won't buy these games that you'd rather them not even come at all. If Switch is going to not end up like Wii U, then "scared" can't be a factor. If game of the year editions can sell on other systems for $60 day one, then they can sell on Switch for $60 day one. And if they can't, then they might as well not even bother bringing new games because those won't sell either.
This is one of the best games released this generation, and if it's getting a game of the year edition on other consoles you dang well better believe I want to see it on Switch too. And I'll be there day one supporting it. The question is, will you? Or will you contribute to the very problem you're complaining about potentially happening
@World hell yeah! Bring on Armored Core!
for a treat, watch the prepare to try series from ign on dark souls and dark souls 3. 'tis a fun romp.
Would be an awesome trilogy to get on Switch. I would be there day one.
Lol, pretty much every third party dev is thinking of putting ports on the Switch if sales are "good.
Nothing too risky, just some cheap old ports. If they sell poorly the Nintendo fans will say the reason for the poor sales are because they are old ports.
@electrolite77 @JaxonH Don't know if you didn't read all the post but I never said they support is not needed or that the game is not worth to get on the system. The point is, IF, and I'm gonna say it again, IF they release this game just to "test the water" than yeah I rather not get those games. WHY!?!?!? Because it would be the WII U again, with those thirds saying "Oh! Our game just sold 800 thousand copies" on a just released platform. And if you are thinking that is overreacted just remember Zombi U. And so after that they just decide to not support it anymore, 'cause a platform with 2million units sold so far can't make they sell 5 million copies.
In conclusion, I want any good games and third parts that the system can get,but really don't want baffoons that just throw games that everyone already played or is a downgraded by any reason, wanting those to sell like it's the suppreme thing, and if they don't sell its because the audience of nintendo is not for that kind of games.
PS: One of you said that game is one of the top games of this generation... Well its your point of view and I respect that, but don't put this as being an universal statement that you can use as an argument for anything.
@LeRaposa "When asked if II could come to the Wii U, the producer laughed."
If someone asked you to port Mario 64 to an Atari Jaguar, you'd probably laugh in their face to. What people tend to forget when attacking 3rd party developers, is that Nintendo made the WiiU so difficult to code for (being underpowered, not supporting a lot of the common game engines, not having most of the modern development tools etc.).
That's the one thing the Switch doesn't suffer from, the hardware has parity with the PS4 & XB1 in regards to development tools etc. and is easy to port and code for. All Nintendo need to do is rebuild relationships with the 3rd parties and not mess up the marketing or launch.
Nintendo... launch... the one place I have little faith in Nintendo. :/
@Diogozaca The one thing I would say to you, is if developers hold back on ports, the Switch will have less games. One big criticism of the WiiU is lack of games. In the first year or two of the Switch's life getting games is vital, even if they're ports. While it's easy to tell a developer to f-themselves, it is only ever Nintendo who would suffer.
The alternative is just not getting any 3rd party games at all. Surely getting some ports of top games of the generation, most of which will include all DLC and even release same day as other GotY versions, is better than having no support at all. That would be the Wii U again, surely. Although for the record they're talking about porting the trilogy if it's successful, not a new game. They don't even have a new game announced right now.
3rd party games haven't exactly sold all that well on Nintendo historically. Can't expect an overwhelming stampede of investment in brand new games until the platform has been proven at least moderately viable. And how is that done? With investment in lesser risks first, such as games already known to be excellent and have great reputations and review scores to back them up. Games with all DLC included, and offer incredible opportunity for Switch owners to play the best available.
New games aren't automatically good. GotY releases, on the other hand, will almost exclusively be masterpieces because you don't waste money porting mediocre games that won't sell, you invest in bringing the top-shelf games that will sell. Once those games prove to actually find a market, then new games will come. You're putting the cart before the horse my friend. There's no reason to fear games like Dark Souls 3 GotY not selling. If they do, we'll surely see more. If not, we don't deserve to see more anyways cause if great games with all DLC can't sell, nothing will.
And I said it was one of the greatest. But don't take my word for it, just look at the overwhelming aggregate of review scores that echo the exact same sentiment.
@DanteSolablood Agree with you, but take note that I would just think like that IF, and only IF, they take the posture of the thirds on the nintendo's WII U. If you don't put games on a platform you can't expect it to sell well therefore the excuse of many thirds just don't fit with what they did with the WII U. you can just compare the initial salles of the PS4 games and they were not great 'cause the system needed time, and support, to grow the instalbase.
Since no one can say that, the From Software studio will just "test the water", for sure, so it's awsome to get as many game as possible. Got it?
Never played any of them, due to reading that they were extremely difficult, and I'm not one that puts up with that without throwing a controller. Would love to see some other games on the Switch, that just aren't ports from 3rd parties...the 3rd parties need to put out some NEW games, not just ports, or it will become like the Wii U, where the parties leave...if nintendo is to learn their lesson (which is always what is being said), how comes the 3rd party studios didn't learn their lesson???
Other than all this, and some of the other reads on this section, we still didn't get the main reveal of the SWITCH, so it could have a touchscreen and they just failed to show it. Close to either this past summer or before, when the NX rumors started, wasn't their an article on here, that stated that Super Mario Maker is coming to the Switch...if that's true, wouldn't that be a touchscreen type game??? It would be difficult to use motion controls to do it. January is coming soon, and all of these rumors will HOPEFULLY end by then, but...after that reveal, there will be more rumors running around until the system's launch in March...which will be the decision of the console.
@JaxonH First, you really don't get me at all, and I'm not gonna try to explain again, and just to be clear I'm not being rude, just saying the truth.
Second, the GoTY games, sells more for those who already played them, yes that is a fact, and altough it may or may not be good they don't attract new gamers, and the gamer that would buy it would rather get it on a safe spot where they played and was nice, it means the platform that they got the original one.
@Diogozaca "I'm not being rude, just saying the truth." Didn't someone win an election this year with exactly this message?
@DanteSolablood KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!! Really don't know, I'm from Brazil. But if that works its good, I guess !!!
@Diogozaca Haha, well if you typed 13 less K's and looked to America you'd get close to who I meant.
One thing is certain... pretending that GotY editions of masterpieces doesn't attract new gamers is balogna.
That's the whole reason they make GotY editions in the first place. To attract new gamers who didn't buy it when it launched. Acting as if including more content somehow makes a game less appealing to Nintendo gamers is... illogical.
The choice is probably going to be ports or no support at all. There are hardly any exclusives these days unless MS/Sony/Nintendo pay for them. They don't happen on other consoles with an estimated 23/45million sales. Why would they happen on the Switch, which is a successor to a console that sold 13 million and a Nintendo platform where third-party games have historically struggled?
If Switch sells, it'll get support. Until then it needs all the help it can get.
@jimi ...fwiw, i play offline specifically to avoid invasions. i just wanna pve and leave it at that.
I really hope Dark soul's serie will be on Nintendo Switch. I want to play it at job. A great and scary game.
This would be so great... I played the 1st for hours and completed it 2 times but I never got a chance to finish the 2nd and to even play the 3rd... I'm more in love with the Switch every day (even if it's only based on rumors lol).
@roy130390 thanks man I hope I do too:) I'm sure it just takes a bit of perseverance and practice. You're right about being precautious, I think I rush into attacking enemies without thinking how I should attack them because they're so intimidating lol I might get back into it over Christmas when I need a break from FFXV.
Played them all, not sure its worth buying again. Actually not sure what the developer would achieve by thinking it doesnt sell well when most of the fans would have bought the game already
Bit stupid how the Chicken and Egg thing is in place already, surely it makes sense to put the newest one on the switch. I think its going to be set in the future and then release on day one then if they sell well, put the older trilogy onto one "disk" and service the "fans"
@jimi I soloed the three DS and Bloodborne and I loved them all for what they offered, online is a plus.
Then I read the post where you say one should not play Bloodborne...
Never played Dark Souls, but have heard great things about it. I'd love to to try the whole trilogy on the Switch!
Here we go again. Guess some developers still don't realize that hardware doesn't sell unless there is software. It'd be like Nintendo waiting to see if zelda breath of the wild sells a lot before releasing the switch. Of course if they do actually do it, they need to release a trilogy, not just DS3. It'd be like when mass effect 3 was released for Wii U. All Nintendo console owners didn't want it because they missed 1 and 2, and everybody else had already got it and wouldn't buy another version of it.
I for one welcome our new hyper difficult and broodingly art directed overlords.
@KirbyTheVampire Mostly friends that play online games on PS4, none of them are thinking of getting a Switch, they just don't care about Nintendo games anymore and would consider buying them only if they came on their current platform.
The only people I know who want it are current Wii U owners.
BTW, this is just a poorly informed opinion, and I'm aware of that, we still need to see the January presentation. Still, I'm not very optimistic about it.
@KirbyTheVampire I just bought part one like two days ago for the 360 damnit!!!
@jimi “Switch will get downgrades, because it's simply impossible to offer the same gameplay on Switch when compared to the Wii U originals.”
What are you talking about? The Switch, even when undocked, will be more powerful than Wii U. The Wii U was capable of about 350GFLOPS, while the Switch, even if it's based on a Tegra X1, will be capable of 512GFLOPS+. Most assume it's Tegra P1 based, which is 50% stronger, so it could be 750GFLOPS+ (in FP32; it's 1.5TF in FP16).
“Who the hell is even the audience for this thing?”
The millions of people who buy exclusive games for Nintendo systems, the portable market (Japan and Asian countries, in particular), the core console/PC market that want a complimentary system to their main one. And depending on whether Switch has motion controls, we might see the family/ casual market take to the Switch as well.
I obviously have and the most the message system really does is warn you of ambush, tell you to jump to death, praise the sun and make fatty jokes when the player character can't fit through gaps.
Which brings up another point from your rant that makes no sense, why do you think there will be no multiplayer? What are you basing that on? Oh yes nothing.
Does anyone remember back when activision said Wii couldn't handle cod 4? Then go figure, when mw2 comes out on x360/PS3, wii gets mw1. And several other ones. And they played just fine and even better if you like Wiimote/chuck controls like me. Graphic wars are the dumbest thing in gaming. The real issue is Nintendo systems have always been for playing Nintendo games 1st, other games second. and because Nintendo really didn't care about 3rd parties for years, when Xbox and ps starting releaseing watered down PCS called consoles too, that were easier to port games to, they forgot about Nintendo too. And now we have this huge line between Nintendo gamers and hardcore gamers that everyone who has a ps/Xbox think they are. But all the 35 years old out there are playing Mario/Zelda, and 15 year olds playing gta and battlefield. I just know that I play games no matter the system, and my ps__ collecting more dust then any of my Nintendo systems. And if switch looks like a Wii U/3ds library in a couple years, I won't need my ps__ any more.
@Equinox Wow look at your comment and look at how many systems have been sold... Either you edited your comment or that is some serious coincidence.
@jimi HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ Your comment!!! Nintendo was the hottest selling item on black friday WITHOUT A SALES PRICE!!! LMFAO @ YOU!!! 10 MILLION ALREADY!
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