The NES Mini only came out this past week, and seems to have drawn mostly positive reaction (barring the ridiculously short controller cord). This is a landmark moment for Nintendo, as it's never released a product quite like this before, and it begs the question of whether or not the company will continue to produce them for other consoles. A SNES Mini or even an N64 Mini aren't entirely beyond the realm of reason, and clearly there's demand from fans for more products like this.
Arkotype – a project by artist Dan Clarke, dedicated to graphic design centered around video games – recently posted an image to its page of what a potential SNES Mini's box might look like if one were ever to see the light of day. See what you think:
Hopefully Nintendo will take note of fan demand and choose to continue with a 'Mini' line of retro consoles, there's certainly plenty of nostalgia to be mined.
What do you think? Would you pick up an SNES Mini? What games do you think would be included? Share your thoughts in the comments below.
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Darn, I was hoping for a fake list of 30 games so I didn't have to think up a fake one myself :/
It's like it's the slowest news day ever at Nintendo Life. Except it isn't.
I'd say a SNES Mini is inevitable and is already planned.N64 will probably be as far as they go with it though,at least for the next few years.i'm not sure how they'd go about making a Gameboy/Advance Mini though and keep with the same design.
..looks good..
..give me five..
I'd personally prefer an SNES Mini. It was the first game system I had semi-regular access to (belonged to some cousins, my aunt babysat me) until I received a GBC for my tenth birthday.
Will super mario bros all stars/World be countes as one game, can we also get tetris/dr mario on it as 1 game. SNES was amazing....the sheer number of games to choose from would make an impossible task. I'd easily fill up 30 games.
I think a SNES mini will happen, you only have to look at the sales (and potential sales if they had them more readily available) to see that they're sitting on a goldmine.
And I would like Unirally/Uniracers amongst the list of games.
@Gerbwmu Tetris would need to get the AOK from The Tetris Company, hence why the Gameboy version was only up on the 3DS Virtual Console for a limited time only.
If they were to ever add Tetris, I think it would be if Nintendo ever created a "Gameboy Mini" since that's the version that really sold the Gameboy and most iconic version.
They probably will do one for snes and n64 in due time.
Bit early for wish lists and begging since the mini Famicon JUST came out ...
I don't have a nes mini yet, but I definitely want a snes mini to happen eventually.
Here are 20 off the top of my head:
Super Mario World
Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy 3
Chrono Trigger
Super Metroid
Star Fox
Secret of Mana
Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat 2
Super Castlevania 4
Megaman X
Super Mario RPG
PilotWings
Mario Kart
Zelda: A Link to the Past
Donkey Kong Country
Demon's Crest
Street Fighter 2 Turbo
Act Raiser
Earthbound
Probably too many RPGs for reality but those are my favorite so I had too. Hehe. Somebody fill in the last 10! I'm sure there are some huge ones I forgot.
There's really nothing stopping them from making an SNES Mini. From what we supposedly know of the specs, they could just take the same boards they used for the NES Mini and shove them into a new casing shaped like an SNES/SFC.
Well actually they'd likely have to make new boards to move the controller ports so they would fit well with an SNES shaped board, but they could still just use all the exact same components they used with the NES Mini and it'll still emulate SNES games full speed.
I've said this elsewhere, coming up with a realistic list of 30 games for a mini SNES won't be quite as easy as the NES. It seemed like everyone was playing the same NES games back in the day thanks to Nintendo Power. There was more variety in the SNES days. Licencing also becomes a bigger problem for the SNES with games like Turtles in Time. I'd expect to see a load of first-party titles like Mario, Zelda, Metroid and F-zero. It would be smart to get Street Fighter 2 Turbo on there. That would help in terms of nostalgia.
If there's a SNES Mini with 30 built-in games, these had to be a part of the package:
1. Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World
2. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
3. Super Mario Kart
4. F-Zero
5. Donkey Kong Country
6. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
7. Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble
8. Earth Bound
9. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
10. Super Metroid
11. Contra 3: The Alien Wars
12. Street Fighter II Turbo
13. SimCity
14. Chrono Trigger
15. Super Castlevania IV
16. Super Punch-Out!!
17. Kirby Superstar
18. Star Fox
19. Earthworm Jim
20. Mega Man X
21. Final Fantasy II
22. Final Fantasy III
23. Tetris Attack
24. Final Fight 2
25. U.N. Squadron
26. ActRaiser
27. NBA Jam: Tournament Edition
28. Demon's Crest
29. Super Ghouls 'N Ghosts
30. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Super Famicom Mini could had these:
1. Chrono Trigger
2. Super Mario Collection
3. Super Mario Bros. 4
4. Panel de Pon
5. Seiken Densetsu 3
6. Mother 2
7. Zelda III - Hyrule Densetsu: Triforce of the Gods
8. Final Fantasy V
9. Final Fantasy VI
10. Super Mario RPG
11. Street Fighter II Turbo
12. Super Donkey Kong
13. Super Donkey Kong 2
14. Super Donkey Kong 3
15. Yoshi's Island
16. Shin Megami Tensei
17. Rockman X
18. Tales of Phantasia
19. Star Ocean
20. Romancing SaGa! 3
21. Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu
22. Super Famicom Wars
23. Hoshi no Kirby Super Deluxe
24. Contra Spirits
25. Akumajou Dracula
26. Super Mario Kart
27. Terranigma
28. Clock Tower: The First Fear
29. Star Fox
30. Super Metroid
So its a pic of a super fami box with mini written on it, this must of taken at least 45 seconds, great story
As long as they put an FX chip in it I'll be happy!
30 SNES games would be way too restrictive for me. Whilst it's probably the same for the NES, I didn't grow up with that so probably couldn't think of many more games. For the SNES I would definitely want more.
I wonder if they'll do the different form factors between EU and US for the SNES, and if so could that mean the potential for different games between the two regions? Time will tell
Why cant they make it so that it also has eshop built in so you can download your own virtual console games to it too
I'd love to see Secret of Mana and Terranigma. Both brilliant RPGs. We could finally get Star Wing as this FX chip game may have been too difficult to emulate on Wii/Wii U. One or more DK Country games would be a given. I'd definitely want Killer Instinct if possible. Those would be on my wish list along with the more predictable classics.
@hYdeks Just like how they did a SNES Remix and an N64 Remix eventually, right?
But seriously, N64 emulation is a nightmare. Ever wondered why there was only like 21 N64 games on the Wii Shop Channel? Every one of them had a separate emulator to run the game as smoothly as possible, and some games had problems even then, like Paper Mario had some terrible seamlines between parts of the environment that didn't exist on the original cartridge.
SNES Mini would be a dream... NES Mini is already very cool as the NES was my first console. But I spent more time and have more memories on SNES, playing with friends when a teenager...
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@retro_player_22
Very good list but too many titles from the same serie (e.g. Donkey Kong Country and SMW) and lack games such as Super Bomberman, Terranigma, FFVI (better than II and III IMO), TMNT in time (beatemall needed lol), Super Castlevania II, R-Type III, Shadowrun (too mature probably... but...), Breath of Fire II, Wild Guns, Puzzle Bobble, Parodius (neeeeeeeeed!)...
I'm sure someone spent hours designing this completely original box art. C'mon, NL, if you're gonna post fan work, James (yoshielectron) made Super Mario 64 into a candy dispenser that gives you sweets for each Red Coin collected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJq5EtQzgUc
@arekdougy Lol. I also came for a list!!
Love it. Also, yeah, just call them "mini", or at least the same name (whatever it is), in all territories.
Sadly, neither American's nor Europeans will be getting a box like this, if Nintendo is going to go with the same general formula it did with replicating the boxes for the NES "mini", but at least both the Japanese and Europeans will get the far better looking console design.
Beautiful!
Before we start begging Nintendo to make the SNES Mini how about we focus on them actually MAKING the NES Mini first. 5 per store, yeah no.
Will switch have vc for nes and snes? Or will they just release nes mini/snes mini on cartridge and leave it at that. Once they have sold enough mini systems of course... so we can buy it again.
I hope the snes mini has more than 30 games. My favourite console ever.
@ElGrego I'm listing the titles that could potential be likely included as license titles such as TMNT, Bomberman, Shadowrun, and Wild Guns were IPs that are own by different companies now and may likely not be included. If Konami didn't bother to put a single Hudson title like Bomberman for the NES Classic Edition, they probably wouldn't care for the SNES Classic Edition as well.
@rjejr Exactly. Scores of people still waiting to get an NES unit and people already want another system that will be even harder to find thrown onto the market.
@AcclaimDev "that will be even harder to find"
Well it will be just as easy to find, eBay isn't going anywhere, but it will cost $400 instead of $200.
A better idea is a Virtual Console Player. A mini console with wireless controllers that let's me download nes-gamecube as well as gb-gba games. My thoughts at least. Why lock down the games when a simple 500gb HDD could hold so many classic games.
@retro_player_22 yeah, it's easy to overlook the licensing issues. That's one reason why I think coming up with a set of games for a SNES mini would be harder than the NES mini. I think Hudson titles are possible though, since they're owned by Konami. I think NBA Jam is impossible, as it involves the NBA and player likenesses.
A few longshots I'd like to see are Sunset Riders, Pocky and Rocky, and Ninja Warriors Again.
As cool as the NES mini is, the SNES mini is where it's at for me. SNES is amazing and would have so many great titles on it. N64 mini would be great too but RareWare titles would be left off which would take a serious chunk out of the library. I can't see them doing anything past N64 as far the mini consoles go.
In a heartbeat, after they stabilize stock.
@Bunkerneath They could probably make it, but it would certainly defeat the whole purpose of people having a gaming experience that is far more like we actually had back in the day.
No internet and wired controllers only add to that experience. And if they do some kind of eShop/VC in a box, then they might just as well make it a bland grey box and not looking like any specific console, because otherwise they would have to restrict the downloads to one specific console only, and that would be too much work for what is actually only meant as a nice extra for Nintendo fans.
I find it sad that people always want more, no matter what they get. First, they complain about the number of games, because 30 games is "obviously" a WAY too small number, then we need to have an SD card slot to be able to add pirated games, or we need an internet connection to the box in order to be able to download extra games. And those wired controllers, that shouldn't have been allowed anymore in 2016, they should have been wireless...
Even if they would have given us all that, there would probably STILL be people moaning about something that they DIDN'T get. Yègh!
Some people just don't seem to understand what the Classic Mini is really all about. Either that or they want to drag it into the 21st century by shoehorning all kinds of things into it that the NES never had and that an authentic representation of it also shouldn't have.
@ThanosReXXX I suspect the reason for lack of ability to add games comes down to restrictive license agreements, meaning the original agreements might be console specific. I think there is merit in the complaints, some more than others. Deciding what's authentic can be a bit arbitrary. For all that is authentic, there's also HDMI, several video modes, a flashy menu, save states. No SD slot is understandable. Wireless controllers can be provided in the aftermarket(as was the case back in the day). Longer cords would be more authentic, I believe. As for internet and downloading games, I think it's a wash. While an internet connection is not authentic, the ability to add games is more authentic than not being able to do so.
@sdelfin No, the HDMI, graphics and menu features can't be listed under the same column as options that aren't authentic or truly retro so that's not arbitrary at all.
HDMI and the video modes were added for convenience, and to account for giving the best possible picture on modern TV sets. The menu system, including the save slots, is to make up for the lack of a true cartridge system.
The only valid complaint is the length of the controller cords. That also made me wonder what the heck they were thinking, but other than that, people really need to learn to stop living the glass half empty life.
Like I said before: I am almost 100% certain that even if it would have had a VC shop, wireless controllers and more games, there would STILL be something left to whine about, and it's sickening, defeatist behavior and it must stop.
And there is nothing authentic about being able to add games digitally, so that does not belong in a retro console. We've got VC and the eShop on regular consoles for that.
Take this initiative from Nintendo for what it truly is, and that is a nice extra that they didn't even have to bring in the first place, not as something that is supposed to check all the boxes of people's personal wishlists. Don't like it? Don't buy it, simple...
@SanderEvers And where exactly did I say that it wasn't easy? I just explained why it doesn't belong in there and what the true purpose of the Classic Mini is, and that is NOT to be a VC box.
I'd hope that Nintendo works out its stock issues with the NES Mini before bothering to release a SNES Mini. If we thought the NES Mini flew off the shelves, well, all you have to do is look at the average reseller price of a SNES game compared to NES games and see that a SNES Mini would be much, much bigger than the brave little toaster with HDMI hookups.
SNES Mini asap and N64 Mini aswell .
@ThanosReXXX To me, adding games is plenty authentic, regardless of the delivery method, when the original system wasn't as locked down as this. Neither thing is truly authentic. It's an emulation system meant to be played on LCD TVs. It's not authentic, just official. Save states for games without save features is not authentic. The whole authenticity argument is arbitrary. Something might be authentic enough for one, but not for another. Real authenticity is with an original Nintendo on a CRT. Everything else is a compromise. I don't insist on that. Some do. Choice is good.
It doesn't matter if people would still whine if those other features were included. Many people wouldn't as it would have the features they'd like. People are individuals with different ideas. Besides, it's hypothetical and meaningless. The product is what it is. There's nothing wrong with people having complaints or ideas for features and sharing them in a comment section. This isn't a place for only patting Nintendo on the back. I agree, that it is a simple matter of buying it or not buying it, but comment sections like this let people have a say either way.
i mean really what else would it look like?
@sdelfin Well, we definitely agree on comments sections and it being hypothetical and meaningless, which instantly makes me wonder why you replied to my original comment in the first place, since we seem to be of the same mind in general, except for the part were we compare our "what's authentic about the NES Mini" notes.
I really can't see some compromises made to account for advances in video technology as not being authentic. Modern TV's don't have scanlines, so they added that in specifically to make up for that so that people can still play and see the games like they used to. It might at its worst be a compromise, but it's not arbitrary, it's not even debatable.
And the lack of a true means of putting in games through a cartridge slot is why there's 30 games in there already. The average NES user probably never even had more than 30 games (at the same time) so that should be more than enough for the general public.
And the thing about always wanting more, that IS bad, if you can't see that, then I really don't understand you. People need to learn to be satisfied at some point and not always be disappointed, it's disgusting and not the type of behavior that I would want anyone I know or love to have.
If there is some warranted criticism, such as concerning the length of those cables, then I'm completely on board and can understand people calling them out on that, but all the other things are just looking for solutions to problems that aren't even there in the first place.
That doesn't mean that I'm only looking for people to pat Nintendo on the back or be 100% positive about them. Heck, as a seasoned sales & marketing professional, I was absolutely horrified by the train wreck that was the Wii U's marketing campaign, and some of their other actions are also highly questionable.
Maybe it's my age or something, I don't know (I'm 46) but I just despise people that always have something to complain about and are never satisfied. It's only a damn hobby, and it's nothing that should be so important that it seems to be ruling your life.
Anyways, seeing as we agreed on some points, I guess we'll just have to file the rest under the chapter "agree to disagree", because I'm not going to budge a single millimeter there, and you probably won't either, so I don't know about you, but I'm not really looking to continue the part of the discussion that isn't going anywhere.
And my weekend has started, so I'd like to try and make something positive of that as well...
@SanderEvers No, the NES Mini is a modern way of being able to revisit the classics in the manner they are MEANT to be played, offline and with wired controllers. VC or eShop is no part of that and it shouldn't be, at least not for this initiative. Nintendo themselves have explicitly said so, which means you can't just give your own explanation of what it is.
Nintendo have already explained it, so that's what it is: an offline retro console that is meant to be played AS IS. And I already explained why they added a menu with games (to make up for the lack of a real cartridge slot, which is obviously also the reason for the games being pre-installed) and the other options are to accommodate for displaying on modern TV's. And they are SPECIFICALLY designed to give you an old skool feeling on a modern TV, which is were the scanline filter comes in.
I do like your idea of game packs, though.
But knowing Nintendo, they'll sooner just come out with a second edition of the NES Mini...
My favourite games for the SNES are Star Fox and Super Star Wars. There's a good chance neither of them would be on the mini. 😕
@Tyranexx
same here
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