Another day, another set of comments from sources familiar and otherwise with Nintendo's upcoming projects; many are focused on NX, but CEO of Tokyo-based consultancy firm Kantan Games - Dr. Serkan Toto - has also given a little insight into Super Mario Run's development. This is all ahead of inevitable updates during Nintendo's financial briefings next week.
Let's get NX out of the way first, as we're aware that's what many want to hear about. There have been a number of people claiming to have sources around when the NX is due to be revealed, and in one case we've investigated and found that one such claim from today is likely incorrect. Nevertheless, two well-known followers of Nintendo's business have given slightly contradictory views on whether NX will be seen this week, so for information both are below.
Over the past 24 hours Emily Rogers, who has correctly reported on projects like Paper Mario: Color Splash before its reveal earlier this year - as one example - has shared the view that NX could be on the agenda this week and next week, perhaps (we'd suggest) with the usual reveal announcement followed by a full unveiling. Key tweets are below.
And in response to a tweet and then editorial that this writer posted considering the angles around the NX reveal timing...
On the flipside, Dr. Serkan Toto (who is normally relatively accurate and justified in his insights) suggested there may not be any reveal this week. He acknowledges that the source for that information is a little weaker than for his Super Mario Run insights, and it should be noted that a 'reveal' next week or beyond need not exclude a hype-building announcement in the coming days.
He did acknowledge that a pre-unveiling announcement - such as a date for an event or broadcast - could be a factor this week.
Those are two perspectives (thank you for the tips, we've seen various others) that are among the more reasonable we've seen. We weighed up some key points on the potential timings for the NX reveal in a recent editorial too, considering the angles and what fans should perhaps expect in the coming days and up to 26th October, when Nintendo will be addressing investors.
Moving on, Dr. Serkan Toto cites a 'rock solid' source on information around how Super Mario Run has been developed. While maintaining that it's on course for a December release and that Shigeru Miyamoto is director of the project, DeNA is apparently a little more hands on than expected in making the game. As opposed to simply working on server-side and back-end areas, it's more central to the core development, albeit it isn't leading the game's design.
Though Nintendo is still very much the creative force, it seems that DeNA's capabilities are being utilised beyond back-end technical work. The company has a long track-record in mobile services and games, so perhaps this shouldn't be a surprise.
So those are some of the more interesting (and perhaps trustworthy) rumours and source-driven remarks that we've seen online today. Let us know what you think in the comments.
No news is good news
Calling it now!
The Real NX is the friendships we made along the way.
I want to believe but no one can know for sure. I can't get hype just yet. But i hope the NX reveal goes something like this after such a long wait... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ-VT50SgUo
"...Emily Rogers, who has correctly reported on projects like Paper Mario: Color Splash before its reveal earlier this year..." and wrong on almost everything else.
No news is no news
I feel mentally exhausted waiting for this thing to get revealed.
Thanks for not using the big Nintendo NX banner, I thought this might be for new store displays or something.
How many more times does Ms. Rodgers need to be wrong before we stop going to her for info? I volunteer to keep track.
And whatever happened to Eurogamer? Such big insider info months ago but nothing since? That doesn't seem right.
Oh well, eventually, I've just about given up.
@Fidu "...wrong on almost everything else."
If they do reveal something about the NX, hopefully it won't be a horrible name.
Poor Wii U, the little guy never had a chance.
@-DEMISE- like saying ''female Link confirmed'' in BotW among other things... if you keep making plausible statements, eventually you're going to get something right. I wish this website would stop giving her nonsense attention
@rjejr "And whatever happened to Eurogamer? Such big insider info months ago but nothing since? That doesn't seem right."
That's a good point. I was actually thinking about that the other day. It doesn't sit right with me to think that those guys had such massive insider info from allegedly multiple inside sources, but then they just go completely silent after that? I don't know, maybe Nintendo sniffed out and culled the traitors, meaning those people are no longer getting info that they can feed to eurogamer.
Nobody knows anything.
Nothing escapes from the NX Black Hole.
@Tlink7 She claimed that there's a female playable character. She never specified Link. That being said, they DID consider it. She was right, but it was outdated information.
Emily Rogers has a mixed track record. She's been right many times in the past, but has also been wrong in the past.
Other insiders, including NateDrake, are seemingly indicating that there will be NX news within the next week.
@Tlink7 Actually, what she said was: "Rumor #2: I heard from multiple sources that you can choose between a male or female as your playable character in Zelda."
So she specifically prefaced it as being a rumor, framed it as being something that she just heard, not as a solid confirmation, and then she apologized after it was debunked. And like someone else already said, she never once stated that the playable female character would be a female Link. She just said "playable female character," which is something Nintendo actually were considering. And don't forget that she tweeted that rumor along with a "rumor" that BotW would be coming to both Wii U and NX, so she wasn't all wrong.
And for the record, I'm not some big Emily Rogers fan or anything. I couldn't care less about her, actually, or anyone who deals exclusively in propagating rumors. I just think that it's very odd that people s**t (to @gcunit: this could mean "spit" just as much as anything else. You changing it to "poop" doesn't make it more acceptable. But really you should stop changing people's comments for arbitrary reasons. It legitimately destroys the tone of the comment section and damages constructive dialogue. If you want to be a good moderator and not just a bully, you need to learn to pick your battles.) on Emily Rogers so much when she's no less accurate than any other rumor-monger out there.
I will settle for literally anything from Nintendo at this point, even something basic as Rockstar's first RDR 2 tweet and just leave it there.
Its starting to feel like we're that Christian sect that kept turning up expecting the rapture and nothing happens... EVERY TIME.
So my friend's uncle works for Nintendo and was able to give me some good information. The NX is on track and it will be revealed this Friday. Nintendo has bought the rights to both Halo and Uncharted and a crossover game will be announced called Master Chief and Nathan Drake at the Olympic Games.
Not only that, but Nintendo will bundle the NX with Flingsmash 2. This will utilize the touchscreen on the new NX controller. Nintendo also cancelled development of Breath of the Wild and is planning to launch the NX with Paper Mario Sticker Star 2. This will not come bundled with the system.
No Mario, Metroid, Pokémon, Splatoon, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, or Kirby games are planned.
If the next time we hear NX is at the meeting, I hope no one credits Rogers considering it is a guarantee that they talk about it in some capacity there. Of course, if they do an announcement besides then this or next week then I'll consider her reliable in the future.
I kind of figured DeNA was making Super Mario Run with Miyamoto help, which is pretty cool, but I really wish the game was also coming to android phones, because I don't own a iPhone and I really hate their products.
I'm really hoping she is right about the system still on track for coming out in March 2017, otherwise I will have barely anything to play at the beginning of next year other than retro games on older systems .
As for the rest of the news, same things we've been hearing week, after week, after week, after week.....
Toto's leaks (if they can be called that) usually are pretty spot on, so I believe him more than Rogers (bravo for your tweet, Thomas!).
At this point, its better to wait for the investors meeting, we're bound to get some info then. Even if the info is that they don't have definitive date for the announcement.
@hYdeks Super Mario Run is coming to Android. Nintendo confirmed it, they just haven't said when it would happen, exactly.
@Operative "If the next time we hear NX is at the meeting, I hope no one credits Rogers considering it is a guarantee that they talk about it in some capacity there."
Okay, then don't credit nintendolife either, because they've been saying the same thing. And it's not a guarantee that they'll be talking about NX at the meeting. Why would it be? Nintendo has had other investor/financial meetings where they have specifically said "we will not be talking about NX", so they're not required to talk about it this time.
Glad you decided to report on Rogers tweets. I saw your tweet this morning and been following her comments since yesterday. She seems pretty sure of her source this time. She set her twitter account public yesterday because of the "special occasion" (normally is private) and have been responding to tweets all day. Even responded to Dr Serkan Toto respectfully disagreeing his NX statement. I think she is on to something. Don't believe she would take this chance if she weren't sure, when It could openly destroy her reputation.
Eventually we will see who was right. At this point I just want to believe.
@-DEMISE- I'll credit common sense, actually. And it's pretty much guaranteed because Nintendo has publicly stated they'll talk about it this year. And guess who they actually have to answer to? Investors. And considering its supposed to launch in March, this fiscal year, investors will naturally demand answers as to what the thing is. How much information is debatable but you can bet they're going to be talking about it in some form. It's different than fans wanting information, these are people that fund Nintendo and they can't get away with "we'll talk about it when we're ready", not this close to launch.
@-DEMISE- No profanity, partially censored or otherwise, thanks.
@Luna_110 Ya I'd be far more inclined to believe Dr. Toto than Rogers.
@wiggleronacid You joke, but I bet we won't see any of those franchises at launch with the exception of some Mario game and maybe a Pokémon one.
@UK-Nintendo So this means we'll have one HECK of a Metroid title!
@Fidu She didn't even 'leak' Paper Mario for Wii U, just reposted what others reported last summer: http://segmentnext.com/2015/05/11/intelligent-systems-working-paper-mario-wii-u/
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@gcunit Are you freaking kidding me? First of all, there is absolutely nothing in the community rules that says you can't have partially-censored profanity. I have seen countless people do the exact same thing without you or any other "moderator" censoring the comment. Second of all, you really need to do a better job at "moderating", because I have seen some straight-up F-bombs on this site, several of them within the past few days, and no one did anything about it. Just because you don't like me specifically doesn't mean that you can single me out for reasons that don't actually violate the rules.
@MarcelRguez It pains me to say it but you're probably right.
@Xaessya You're killing me, haha.
Shower us with NX news!!!!
I'm honestly not sure why so many major news outlines (here and GoNintendo are just two examples) care about anything Emily Rogers says, she's been wrong far more often than right, and when she's right it's usually super vague stuff (she "predicted" a new Paper Mario but that's it, no title or gameplay/story details or anything at all specific). She even said she'd never post another article if she was wrong about a certain set of rumors (http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/emily-rogers-says-shell-never-post-another-article-again-if-shes-wrong-on-any-the-following-rumors.202749211/) and guess what...she was wrong.
And then you have her insistence at the female Link option in BotW that ended up being completely and utterly wrong.
She's a hack at best and best left ignored.
@Discipledoctor That's just a link to an ign forum discussion. I've seen people talking about this before, but I can't find any actual instances where she said she would stop posting if she was wrong about anything. If you can provide a real link to where she said that, that'd be great.
@Operative That's all fine, but Nintendo aren't under any obligation to give investors specific details on the system if they haven't officially unveiled it yet. I mean, that would clearly present a threat to their strategy, wouldn't it? Which investors wouldn't want to see. Obviously Nintendo are aware that investors will want to be assured that NX is on track and will be popular and all that, but they haven't worked their butts off to keep NX under wraps all this time just to casually drop details in a scheduled shareholders meeting. The only way I see Nintendo giving specifics in that meeting is if they officially unveil the system to the public first. Just my take, though.
In an alternate universe Nintendo is releasing a new Playstation and we're all arguing about Microsoft's upcoming NX console.
@-DEMISE- I think that's debatable actually. If the NX were said to release in December then yeah I would agree they are under no obligation - yet -. But the supposed release is in March, most likely chosen specifically to be included into this financial year. Couple that with the Wii U having absolutely nothing in terms of first party support until the NX launches with BoTW, investors are going to want to know what the rest of the financial year has in store for Nintendo, which includes talking about the NX.
Honestly, I think investors are the only people Nintendo DOES have an obligation to. Certainly not us.
EDIT: Also, keep in mind the 3DS was casually announced officially at such a meeting. As was amiibo. Food for thought.
But I also understand your train of thought as well, just to be clear.
Doesn't GameXplain typically talks about any and all Nintendo rumors as they pop up? This latest case of the NX being revealed this week has been silent with them. Could that mean something?
I think these sort of events have invites that have NDAs attached to them. So to me, if they are silent, could it mean they got an invite and that it may actually happen soon?
@Operative I completely agree that they have an obligation to their shareholders. That's actually the point I'm trying to make, but in a different way. I think that if Nintendo were to unveil NX by just dumping info in a scheduled shareholders meeting, it would be a major blow to NX's ability to enter the news cycle and the public consciousness in a desirable way. Instead of being a huge initial explosion of hype, it would be a boring oompf that could potentially cause the system to fail to capture the public's imagination, which is something NX desperately needs if Nintendo wants to avoid another Wii U situation. And it goes without saying that shareholders want to avoid finding themselves in another Wii U situation.
So, I think Nintendo could definitely end up covering NX in-depth at the shareholders meeting, I just think that it would only make sense for them to do so if they're going to properly unleash the thing on the public beforehand.
@-DEMISE- The lost is too long to write out but you can look up how often she's been wrong. She makes basic non descript guesses so that she can be right. She didn't know there would be a Paper Mario on Wii U. She made a guess like the rest of us.
@-DEMISE- We can at least look at the bright side of all this and see that either we get a public reveal beforehand or they release some information to the shareholders, haha. Even if it's not specifics perhaps we'll at least get a time frame of when they'll talk about it more
@LeRaposa If I google "emily rogers wrong" or anything along those lines, it just returns a bunch of random discussion boards with people saying "Emily Rogers is wrong". No one seems interested in or capable of providing actual evidence. And you're right that she's not making insane/bold claims most of the time. That's basically the standard for most video game rumors. There are numerous reasons why that is, not the least of which being that it's extremely difficult to come across earth-shattering insider information, and not just for her, but for everyone. That's why she specifically couches most of her claims in underwhelming terms and generally always prefaces them as being just rumors, as a means of keeping people's expectations in check.
My main point, though, is that she doesn't operate any differently than any other person who posts rumors like this on twitter or anywhere else. It's just that she's significantly more visible/better known than your average Nintendo rumor/gossip writer, so people aren't really aware of her level of consistency among her peers.
I don't care anymore
The NX will come out next march. Why bother?
Stop giving Emily Rodgers an outlet. She got one thing right (which anyone could've predicted) out of many baseless rumors, and suddenly she creates headlines.
Emily Rogers has actually got a lot right over the last few years, but for some reason everyone focuses on the female Link and Mother 3 rumours which have harmed her reputation as a leaker.
@AlexSora89 Exactly. When it's revealed will have absolutely no bearing on when we can play it, so none of these rumors matter. At all.
@Operative Yeah, I mean I'll personally take any information I can get from an actual official source!
I just want to see the thing. I want to see what it will look like because I don't care what its horsepower is. I know it will have Nintendo offerings, and for the most part I enjoy Nintendo offerings so the odds I get one are sufficiently high.
But all I want is to SEE the thing. Knowing that much will make me happy, honestly.
I can't wait to read an article that doesn't contain the phrase "take this with a grain of salt". Does this really have to be said in every article? Is there no other phrase that can be used, like, "this may be total bs but this is what we heard..."?
@Discostew They said in one of their podcasts that they are tired of all the rumors and will only report on the ones they have heard from their own sources.
im going to go crazy if the nx is not revealed this weak
These NX articles make me realise how annoying, cluttered and repetitive Twitter appears to be
Nintendo is Doomed if they don't reveal it this week!
I wasn't expecting it this week anyway, that Macquarie statement seemed fishy to me from the get go.
Anyway, they're definitely going to have to say something about the NX at the investor's meeting, and investors are probably going to want a more specific timetable for the reveal than "sometime this year". The NX's announcement is going to affect Nintendo's stock, so investors are probably going to want to know the reveal date just as much as we do. I'd say if they're not ready to show it off, they should at least tell us what month they are.
@Operative "Also, keep in mind the 3DS was casually announced officially at such a meeting. As was amiibo. Food for thought."
Right, and I've beeen thinking about that recently. But I think NX is different for a few really important reasons. For one, I think a lot of people viewed (and many still do) the 3DS as a mere iteration on the DS, and Nintendo themselves seemed to treat it as such, at least in the beginning. Also, I seem to recall that Nintendo didn't give many specific details about 3DS in that initial soft-announcement. But I might be wrong about that.
But most importantly, NX is an absolute do-or-die situation for Nintendo, at least as far as their future in hardware is concerned. 3DS wasn't really. They have to be laser-focused and deliberate in the way they handle NX at every step of the way, from unveil to release, and on through marketing and branding. I don't think they can afford to just let the cat out of the bag in a casual way, no matter where or when they do it. But we'll see what they do soon enough. I won't hold my breath or stake my reputation on anything I've said, because Nintendo
Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition.
Help yourselves, hunker down with some retro gaming and let come what may in your futures
It's a sad day when a reputable news website is sniffing around some attention seeking sociopath's Twitter feed for leads.
I wouldn't give her the publicity. I predict that it will simply be called the Nintendo, and it will be revealed on November 3rd. If I'm right, I expect disciples.
One week to go for the investor meeting.
Keep our eyes peeled about NX.
I'm sure it will happen any time between now and December. They might just say at the investor meeting "yep, everything's on track, announcement soon."
I'll wait. I have to say though I commend them for keeping it under their hat for so long in this age of immediate information.
The logical money says Nintendo have to say something to shareholders at the meeting next week. But announcing anything to shareholders takes away any surprise reveal of new hardware because people basically live tweet the event. What Nintendo should do, is have the Direct at the same time as the investor meeting. Fans can watch the announcement through a fan service video and investors can hear about how the new product can make them more money. Both sides win...
(Although I still think they will hold out until Mario Run's release to announce anything)
What if the NX turns out to be re-releases of the GameCube and Gameboy Advance with the Link Cables? You know, a portable and home console 'hybrid"?
@-DEMISE- Speaking of the Android version of Super Mario Run, I'm positive we'll learn when that launches at the investors meeting. Shareholders will definitely ask about it due to Android's marketshare.
Wasn't Emily Rogers fired from Nintendo? If so, how is she still a credible source of information?
I rather listen to Ms. Rogers than Pachmoron. At least she has more rights than wrongs. Of course, N64kids being the little arrogant babies they are won't care.
@invictus4000 She NEVER worked with Nintendo. what did you smoke?
@Minotaurgamer Really? Maybe I am thinking of somebody else. I thought she was the lady that was fired about a year ago for something she said online. Anyway if I'm totally mistaken then once again I ask what credibility does Emily Rogers have?
The NX is a mysterious and powerful device, and it's mystery is only exceeded by its power.
But has anyone said what it looks like?
Give us Pokémon G/S/C on VC to tide us over while waiting for NX reveal.
This is a major part of Nintendo's advertising about their name specifically, and it's by "word of mouth". Acknowledge people speaking about it, and then start up the posters and commercials in stores and so forth. Obviously...
It's all good
Lol right. When this system drops Nintendo might as well let us have over a couple thousand friends on the list.
Get them servers ready, Nintendo!
@-DEMISE- Eurogamer probably finally realized the person who gave them all of their NX info was the same person who told them the 3DS was using an Nvidia chip. FYI, DMP makes the 3DS chip, not Nvidia.
The comments section will explode when in the reveal.
@rjejr ha. You could be right. In the least, this has all been very interesting/entertaining. It's like Nintendo took a page out of the Willy Wonka playbook, but instead of golden tickets, people are ruthlessly hunting down speculation and rumors.
I've got an opinion of Emily Rogers. Cool, right?
So to summarise:
'NX news might come this week or next'
'Mario Run being built by DeNA'
Did that really need a garbled staccato paragraph/tweet structure that doesn't read very easily?
I guess your google-fu sucks just like your attitude. I found this and found a backup of her article on archive.org https://web.archive.org/web/20110828034836/http://gameolosophy.com/consoles/lets-make-a-bet/ So please do research before calling out someone wrong. She is not to be trusted and she gets things wrong 90% of the time.
@invictus4000 You're thinking of Alison Rapp. As far as anyone knows, Emily Rogers has never worked for Nintendo. But to address your question, what credibility does anyone have when it comes to these types of rumors? What credibility does this site have? Or Serkan Toto or Michael Pachter, two guys that profit from swaying investors opinions?
@SirRandall Hey, really nice way to address someone you don't know for the first time over something completely insignificant. Anyway, I never once said I didn't believe that the Emily Rogers "bet" happened, I said that I hadn't found anything about it outside of discussion boards. Asking for evidence to support a claim =/= calling someone out.
But since you're obviously very personally and emotionally wrapped up in this, and since you clearly have the time and desire to sit and "research" this stuff, I would sincerely appreciate it if you'd tell me which of the claims she staked that bet on turned out to be outright false. I'm not the one asserting that she lied, so the burden is definitely not on me to do the legwork to provide evidence and support for your argument.
im getting realy sick of waithing for news.but in a weird way i respect nintendo for their secrecy.its completly insane everybody is still in the dark,needs to be supergood now ofcourse,otherwise wtf nintendo
Took me 1 minute. Just saying. You are the one who said they couldn't find it. Seriously one minute is all that it took. And yes your attitude still sucks.
@-DEMISE- Ugh. I never want to hear Alison Rapp's name ever again.
@SirRandall My attitude is fine. The fact that my opinion differs from yours doesn't change that. That's not the way the world works. And I never said I COULDN'T find it, I said I DIDN'T find it. But honestly, that's completely beside the point, so I really don't get why you're focusing on that of all things.
I also don't get why you skirted around my last request. But maybe you missed it, so here, I'll pose this question again: which of the claims in that article you found ended up being wrong? And not just by getting the date wrong on something, since games get delayed all the time and Nintendo are always announcing official release dates and then delaying them, so tentative release dates don't count. I mean just outright wrong in that the thing she was predicting never happened, or like a game she predicted never released to the public.
@Senpai_Bruh Yup, that story was nauseating and got beaten like a dead horse.
And you talk about my reading comprehension ? JC Dude read the article and look up the release dates of the games she said for the games coming out. She got 1 out of 5. Seriously dude its not that hard to type in the name of the game and release date. Even copy paste and type in release date. But since you can't do that I will do it for you. I guess you like everything spoon-fed to you ok so here it is.
She Said Paper Mario for the 3ds would out before the end of December 2011 the real release date was November 11, 2012
Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance Before the end of December 2011 the real release date March 29, 2012
Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D again before the end of December 2011 release date was February 21, 2012
Animal Crossing 3DS for the 3ds same December 2011 real release date was November 8, 2012
The only thing she got right was Mario Kart 7. So yeah 1 out of 5 is horrible. She is the one that said if she got any of them wrong she would stop posting leaks altogether. So her credibility is shot.
@SirRandall How old are you? Just wondering. And back to the whole comprehension thing- what is actually wrong with you? Are you just not reading stuff all the way through, or just intentionally ignoring whole chunks of my comments, or anything else you read? Or are you just not able to understand the things you read?
Again, DATES DON'T COUNT. The reason being, the release dates were not in any way the point of her claims. Her "predictions" weren't about the release dates for those games you cited, they were about predicting the existence of games that no one knew existed before she said they did! She wasn't saying "I'm predicting the release dates for these games everyone knows about", she was saying "here's a list of games that Nintendo will announce in the future and that no one knew existed." That this extremely obvious fact went over your head is not surprising, because you seem a bit.... off. Arriving at the random and bizarre conclusion that you did is like going to a restaurant to eat and then coming away with the belief that the reason for going there was to look at plates and tables. To recap: she reported the existence of a bunch of games that no one knew existed, and later it was confirmed by Nintendo that those games indeed existed.
Moreover, common sense should tell you that what you're suggesting is altogether ridiculous, because no one in the entire world who pays even the slightest amount of attention to the video game industry would ever stake their reputation and/or livelihood on something as consistently unpredictable as video game release dates. Because everyone who pays even the slightest amount of attention to the video game industry knows that video game release dates are consistently fickle. Your suggestion is completely dependent on misinterpretation and counter-logical assumptions. If there's a principle that acts as the opposite of Occam's Razor, your argument is making heavy use of it.
If Nintendo didn't reveal it until launch it would be amazing. And I bet any money it would sell out on launch day. That would be the best. Imagine not knowing what it was until you got it home.
just a quick update both Rogers and Toto have soften on their NX stances... so we're back to before either of them talked about it
@Mart1ndo Yeah don't even have the machine on the box! man that would be ballsy!
We don't like it when data miners expose game information, yet we give credence to twitter people.
I hope in future these people shut up and stop ruining things for people.
Aaand she backpaddled https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/788649946652082176
Next week, she'll say that info may come the following week. It seems that is all these people keep on saying..."it'll be next week"...keeps on going on, then, when the system is revealed...they'll act like they were right, when they've been wrong.
Just let nintendo reveal it when they want to, they apparently have a time frame on when they will (probably marked on their calendars in their offices). They're probably making sure games and the system will be fully functional before they announce.
The thing I can't wait for, is seeing it and what it can do. There's got to be a big reason why they're being this secretive about it...if they don't want other companies to copy them, then it must be something grand for them!
Back to the other topics, does anyone actually know how much Mario Run will be, or is that still something unknown at this time? I honestly don't like playing games on phones, but this is something I may invest in some time down the road...if it takes off, which I'm sure it will.
Oh, Miyamoto... Once, you produced illustrious titles of unmatched prowess... And now you're stuck with overseeing a mere shadow of your previous accomplishments. I can't imagine what's going through his mind...
Haven't we realized at this point that Emily Rogers is the Michael Pachter of video game leaks/predictions?
By the way, where did all those Pachter articles go? Don't stir up interest like they used to, maybe?
Just show us the way the thing looks, a release date, and a price point. If Nintendo is so afraid of other companies stealing their ideas then they can show off major features between now and March.
All I want to know is what the controller looks like.
There's more than release dates. Look at the second page. Rockstar game. Soul Calibur 5. None of that happened.
@JLPick Exactly! These leakers and analysts have been saying "announcement next week... Oh never mind." almost every week for the last month. Hey, I can do that too! Where's my featured article?
And of course Nintendo is going to say SOMETHING about NX at the financial meeting, anyone could figure that out.
@Rin-go @SirRandall You're right about Soulcalibur. That didn't happen. But if you look at the rest of that claim, it actually ended up being accurate in the form of Tekken Tag Tournament 2; that game is also made by Bandai Namco, it was on the show floor, it did have exclusive content on Wii U, and it was the big fighting game for Wii U at launch. If I had to guess, I'd say Rogers' "source" was somehow seeing bits of info and assuming it was about Soulcalibur, since Tekken and Soulcalibur are very similar. Soulcalibur 4 (or 5, depending on where you're reading this story) and Tekken Tag Tournament 2 share a universe, they have shared characters, and they were even made by the same directors/producers. So, if Emily Rogers had just said "unknown Bandai Namco fighting game" and then left the rest of that claim intact, she would have been 100% correct.
The Rockstar game. Here's what she actually said about that:
"Rockstar is working on something for Project Cafe. It will most likely not be revealed at E3 because Rockstar normally doesn’t reveal stuff at E3."
So she didn't say "there is a Rockstar game coming to Wii U", she said "Rockstar is working on something for [Wii U]". And guess what- Rockstar WERE working on something for Wii U at the time this claim was made. They had prototyped a version of GTA V specifically for Wii U, and were seriously considering releasing it for Wii U. We had this confirmed by multiple sources, including Liam Robertson, a solid source that this site uses regularly. And true to Rogers' word, the game wasn't revealed at E3.
And if you read the rest of that post from Emily Rogers, she was correct about everything else on there. Even Smash 4 being co-developed by another studio, since we know that Bandai Namco and Sora both worked on that game. Nintendo DID push for more western developers to release games on Wii U: Assassins Creed 3 and 4. Arkham City and Origins. Multiple Call of Duty Titles. Darksiders 2. Mass Effect 3. Zombi U. Rayman Legends. Watch Dogs. Splinter Cell: Blacklist. Need For Speed Most Wanted U. NBA 2K 13. FIFA 13. Etc, etc. Wii U DOESN'T have a hard drive. Nintendo DID improve online with Wii U. We DID end up being able to transfer content from Wii to Wii U. And all of the games on the first page of that post DID turn out to be real.
I could keep going with this stuff if you want, but eventually some cranky moderator will chime in and tell me to stop.
@Billsama Ummmmm no, she didn't.
@-DEMISE- Yes she did and then she went back to her previous claim. I'm glad she was right after all.
@Fidu @invictus4000 @SirRandall @dew12333 @JLPick @Rin-go Surprise surprise, Nintendo just confirmed NX will be shown off tomorrow (Oct. 19). Looks like Emily Rogers was right. How bad does that hurt?
@-DEMISE- If you read all my previous comments you will see I was defending her. So what the heck are you talking about? Don't ruin the moment. Have a cookie.
@Billsama I didn't mean to include you in that actually. Sorry
@-DEMISE- That's ok We are all excited!
No she is wrong all the time. Google (I know it's hard for you) and average all her predictions (again the way you act I am sure that is hard for you so here is a link how to average http://www.mathsisfun.com/mean.html ) She is 90% wrong. And she wasn't the one that said this. And this isn't her prediction either. Tons of other people said this will happen so there you go. The fact you are willing to believe in someone who is 90% wrong, shows me how stupid you really are.
@SirRandall Again, how old are you? I just need to know. Anyway, this was absolutely something Emily Rogers said. Was she the only one? No. But she was the first big name to bring it to the media's attention. That's literally what this article you're commenting on is all about.
As for her being "90% wrong", in the article you linked, which this conversation is based on, she was more like 99.9% RIGHT. Also, if you really have the time to go through every single prediction or rumor or speculative comment posted by Emily Rogers, a person that has been posting multiple predictions and rumors every week for at least five years, many of them no longer even available to read online, then you should seriously find something more productive to do with your time. Like maybe get a job, assuming you're of age.
Also, how do you perform your calculations? Almost all of Rogers' predictions have several different factors and variables to them, and sometimes pieces of an overall claim will be correct while other pieces of the same claim are incorrect. So how do you deal with these partially-correct claims with sometimes-correct variables, and sometimes even partially-correct variables? What system do you use to break these pieces of info down into definitive binary "yes" or "no" answers and convert them to mathematically workable numbers? I'd really love to know how you work.
@SirRandall Yeah, because you're totally winning everyone over with all your "credibility" right now. It makes you seem super credible to call people stupid over and over instead of answering a single one of their questions.
Hahaha I love how you added a /not and you ask me for my age? No, you are wrong. We gave you facts and the links even you said you wanted. We proved over and over and over again that she is more wrong that right. She wasn't the first to leak this NX reveal and all her own "leaks" come out wrong.
@SirRandall Interesting that THAT'S what qualifies as immature in your book, since your go-to response to everything I say is "dude, you're stupid dude. Dude." And are you just not reading my comments or something? I completely disproved your claim that she was wrong, on literally everything in that story you linked, with the exception of Soulcalibur, but even that one was mostly right.
And I seriously don't understand why you're deliberately refusing to address the actual content of my comments and just keep parroting your same "she's 90% wrong" derpage instead, and yet you can't explain what method you actually used to get to that number. You're not making salient points. You're not even arguing. You're just flailing because you know you're wrong and you can't stand it.
Are you done yet? Again google her predictions and average. I know its hard but you have to learn to do things on your own. It's time to grow up.
@SirRandall I'll be done when you actually respond to my questions.
That's fine. Not my fault you are lazy and can't do basic math. Even in this thread alone of all the predictions she made most of them are wrong.
@SirRandall Oh man. You're like a broken record. Are you even an actual human, or are you some new kind of horrible trolling spambot that's been programmed to say the same thing over and over no matter how irrelevant it is to the conversation at hand?
Umm...i really don't care? Maybe you misinterpreted my query about Ms. Rodgers for being a raving Nintendo theorist. I was simply curious. You gotta chill out, brother.
@invictus4000 I'm assuming you were addressing me, since you didn't actually direct your comment at anyone.
But it's funny- anytime I try to have a substantive, rational conversation with anyone on this site, it always ends up with them telling me to "chill out". Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm perfectly calm here. My taking issue with your comments doesn't equate to me being in an emotional uproar. It just means that I have a problem with what you're saying, and that I'm willing to explain in detail why I have a problem. I'm entirely capable of calling someone out while simultaneously managing my mood.
@-DEMISE- I don't really care all that much. My stance on her has not changed. I'm just happy NX is finally getting an announcement.
Cool story, bro.
Like my comment some no good that the internet has given a voice to attempts to ruin things for millions of people.
Still think the same about them all, not one person in particular.
@SirRandall - please read the Community Rules. Be respectful of all users, no flaming etc. Count this as a warning.
@-DEMISE- Why did you report a problem with a user, then carry on engaging with that user? Is it just coincidence that you are in another argument? Report & Ignore. You can't expect us to deal with someone abusing you if you carry on the discussion with them. We're not going to read every comment word for word to work out who's done what if you've made no effort to stop it yourself. Another car crash of a comments section and you happen to be right in the middle of it again... ...and you expect me to be right on top of it at 4am in the morning UK time?
@gcunit Let's clear something up here: it's completely in the realm of possibility to report a specific violation of the rules while simultaneously continuing to respond to that person's overall comment(s).There's also nothing in the community rules instructing users to "report and ignore". Nothing in those rules even remotely suggests that I need to stop replying to someone simply because I reported an instance where that person violated an ACTUAL rule. You are making up your own rules and trying to force them on people. That's not how it works.
And as for arguing, apparently everyone here but you is aware of the fact that it's common in pretty much every comment section on this site for people to start and sustain arguments, regardless of whether or not I'm involved. And usually I'm not, since I generally only comment on a couple stories a week. And if my comments get blown up by other people and I end up having to defend them, it's specifically because I only choose to comment on topics that I care about and have a lot to say on, so it should go without saying that comments like mine would naturally spark arguments more than your average innocuous "wow that's cool" or "I don't like that" comment will. I sincerely take offense at the fact that you constantly feel the need call me to task for something that happens in every single comment section even when I'm not commenting simply because you hold a personal grudge against me. If you can't get past that, you seriously shouldn't be moderating.
Moreover, my "argument" here and in every other thread is calm and rational, and reflects my desire to have a conversation of substance on the topic at hand. That other people disagree with me and decide to tell me how stupid I am doesn't actually reflect on what I'M saying. It just reflects on the emotional immaturity of people commenting on this site and their inability to handle challenging opinions. Sorry you don't like me, but you can't keep getting on my case for literally everything I ever do while ignoring everything else. It's just extremely hypocritical and near-sighted.
@-DEMISE- I know you say you've read the Community Rules, but I suggest you re-read and try and comprehend the following excerpt:
" If you have a bone to pick with us, we welcome your feedback via the Contact Form, but hounding our staff via comments, forum topics, messages sent via e-mail, via other websites or other social media will not be tolerated."
I am not going to publicly engage with you about how I or anyone else here moderates the site. This is not the first time you've sounded off about mod intervention publicly, so please apply the above otherwise we may have to consider further action. Thanks.
@gcunit How strange that you think that ME responding to YOU when you continually censor and remonstrate me in every other article I comment on, even when I haven't actually broken any of the legitimate rules, qualifies as me "hounding" you. And how funny that you tell me to ignore people I find problematic, and yet you keep going out of your way to find ways to correct me, make sure you publicly inform me of it in the comment sections for everyone to see, and to keep replying to me when I take exception with your actions, but then threaten me with "action" if I respond to you so as to ensure you get the last word. You keep saying you're not going to publicly engage me, and yet here you are. Every single time you engage me, you do so publicly. Sorry, but I don't think anyone would appreciate that.
And I have no problem with moderators on this site, just the way you in particular "moderate" on this site. The reason we're having this conversation, and every previous conversation we've had, is because you have some bizarre need to go after me while ignoring just about everyone else that breaks the ACTUAL rules. And your preferred excuse for your lack of consistent moderation across the board- that you can't be expected to be aware of every issue, or of things that happen while you're asleep- is pretty insulting. These comments aren't going anywhere. They'll still be there the next time you get on. But considering that no other moderator ever has a problem with me, and that you apparently don't have a problem with anyone else on this site, I think the real reason for your lopsided approach to moderating is obvious.
So go ahead, take "further action" if it makes you feel big, since that's clearly what you're going for. It makes no difference though, since it's so easy to create new accounts on this site. I just sincerely hope you do it with the knowledge that I haven't broken any actual rules, and that you're doing it for your own personal gratification.
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