PlatinumGames Reveals Obscure Bayonetta 2 Secrets for Second Anniversary

Probably my favourite Wii U experience and potentially the best graphics produced on the console, really want to go back to it again soon.

they tossed in a potential sequel idea in there, or a spin-off. i <3 bayonetta. at least now i know why i still can't find her amiibo. i think that guide they gave will be a permanent page on my tablet while i replay the game again and again and again...

Maybe it's the angle but her face looks a little weird. When her amiibo goes dirt cheap then maybe I'll buy her. Ryu has been available for very little, but even though I love the Street Fighter franchise I won't buy him because like Cloud, I don't believe either deserved a place in Smash Bros. We haven't had a Street Fighter game on a Nintendo home console since the SNES. The same goes for the mainline Final Fantasy series.

"As it would turn out, there's a series of secret shops throughout the game that will allow you to buy certain characters and items before you otherwise would obtain them in a typical playthrough. The shops are hidden behind unexceptional doors that are part of the environments in certain levels. Standing close enough to the doors and then 'knocking' on them three times on the GamePad touch will center the camera on the door. From here, you must input a secret button combination to bring up the prompt that allows you to buy the item behind the door."

...Okay, my first reaction to this was, "WTF were they thinking making something so arbitrary?!" However, you remember all those crazy secrets that you could only figure out if you or one of your friends had a gaming magazine? This is actually one of those secrets. It's still arguably too obscure, but then again, it's the information age. If you're brave enough to speedrun Bayo2, you can probably handle dumpster-diving on GameFAQs for about 5 minutes looking for these kind of bizarre secrets.

With that said...Huh. Good to know.

Ooh, another excuse to go back and play Bayonetta 2 again!

Best. Game. Ever.

For a moment, I thought they were announcing an update to add amiibo functionality to the game. Not that it's really necessary, and I'm not going to expect such updates for games that are over a year old, least of all because one game did it.
EDIT: Although, it would be neat if W101 allowed you to unlock Wonder-Bayonetta by tapping her amiibo. Heck, Nintendo and Platinum could try to use such an update to draw more attention to that game, considering it came out when there was little reason to buy a Wii U.

As far as I can tell, nobody actually found this until now. Makes you wonder what other games have secrets that were so well hidden they've gone undiscovered for years. I remember reading about a secret room in Arkham Asylum that hinted at Arkham City, but it only became known years later when the developers chose to spill the beans.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE lol
Super Street Fighter 4 3D edition

@Braok lol

"Nintendo home console". That's well over 20 years ago.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE lol
SSFIV on Wii

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Also, the same could be said for Sonic; he hasn't had a good game on a Nintendo system since... Well, he hasn't had a good game on a Nintendo system.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE 3ds has street fighter four 3D and as I recall smash bros is on the 3ds.

@allav866 There's no such thing as SSFIV on Wii.

@allav866 wasn't that a Capcom vs game?

@SLIGEACH_EIRE I think he means that capcom vs game which has ryu as a playable character.

@faint I said Nintendo home console. Sure the GBA had Street Fighter 3 Alpha. I owned it and it was decent though limited.

Capcom vs Tatsunoko doesn't count. That's not a SF game. It just has Ryu and Chun Li.

@faint @SLIGEACH_EIRE No, I actually thought it was released on the Wii. Guess I was wrong.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE and ryu has an amiibo. Sound reasonable to me.

As If I needed another reason to love Bayonetta 2. Amazing game!

Her mouth looks weird, but maybe that's just because if the camera angle and because much of her face is obscured.

Do not be a store exclusive... Please...

@BensonUii rather they focus on the best game for nx instead of worrying about a old handheld that doesn't need attention

I'd already discovered all of the secret shops on my own.

How to make video game secrets stay secret in the internet age? Release the game on Wii U.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Final Fantasy has been on Nintendo from the first one all the way up to 6, then Sony bought the rights for Final Fantasy 7 so it never got a release on a Nintendo console and unfortunately the rest of them went down hill.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE it may not be on a home console, but SSF43D is still a core title from that series. Sure, it's a port, but so were the SNES games. And we had brand-new updates of FF3 and FF4, plus the FF12 sequel Revenant Wings on the DS. They may not be home console games, but both series have cropped up multiple times on Nintendo consoles (the popular ones) in the last 10 or so years. You're just being specific just to support a spurious argument. By your argument we shouldn't have Pit (& friends), Mr G&W, ROB or Duck Hunt either, but no-one's arguing about their place in Nintendo history. Ryu's been in more Nintendo home console games than those 4 combined.

Now if you'd argued that Cloud has never been on a Nintendo console at all, that would be different.

dat Bayonetta amiibo iz awesome! i'll buy 20 of them
seriously though, im glad we got an update it's been Forever!

@SLIGEACH_EIRE FFS, They're fun characters that people liked and frequently requested. Ninty is also on great terms with Capcom, unlike nearly every other 3rd Party out there. And don't even get me started on Cloud Strife, people had been demanding that little inclusion since Brawl, if not Melee. Why shouldn't they deserve to be in a fun cross-over Party-oriented Fighting game? Because they aren't Nintendo enough? You would rather have less just so the roster would stay "pure"? Fine! Just don't play as them, and ban them when you play with your friends. See well that goes over. That'd be just a taste of how the whole fandom would react if they were to go back to a strictly Nintendo cast.

@rjejr There you go, some news on one of the final Smash amiibo. They're still happening!

@CanisWolfred They're on such good terms with Capcom that they "msde" just 2 games for Wii U. Both ports of 3DS games, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate and Resident Evil: Revelations.

Go back further to the Wii and look at their B teams that worked on side story games like both the on rail Resident Evil's. Yes, there were some great games like Monster Hunter 3 and Zach & Wiki but then they also made games like Spyborgs. Then there were a number of ports.

Go back to Gamecube and yes they made some terrific games like Resident Evil 4(one of the greatest games ever), REmake, Viewtiful Joe 1&2. But they did break off that famous deal.

I think Capcom's support of Nintendo's home consoles has gotten worse with each generation and that includes the Wii where bar Monster Hunter 3 they didn't really put a lot of effort in. Some would argue they chose the Wii for MH3 exactly because of that reason.

@gaga64 Square, well Square Enix now, are worse than Capcom by a mile.

"brand-new updates of FF3 and FF4, plus the FF12 sequel Revenant Wings on the DS."

Remake, remake, not mainline game.

And I have previously pointed out that Cloud hasn't appeared on a Nintendo home console and only appeared as cameo's in other non FF games on Nintendo handhelds.

I haven't objected to Sonic being in Smash, he's perfectly fine. I had a major problem when Snake was in Smash Bros. Brawl, again, something I expressed at the time and since. I was glad to see him cut this time around.

I hope that means Cloud and Corrin will be out soon then. Can't say I'm much of a Bayonetta fan. It's not the gameplay as much as it is just her character and some of the 'themes' and such that turn me off.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Um, why exactly does it matter whether a character has been on a home console or a handheld? Does Pit not deserve to be in Smash? Robin? Lucina? Ness? Lucas? Mr Game & Watch? Your logic is ridiculous. Ryu is an iconic part of Nintendo's history. Street Fighter was massive on Nintendo consoles, and SSF4 3D sold well.

My favorite game on the wii u

@Grumblevolcano Bayonetta amiibo should have been the lead. THE LEAD I tell you!! It's still a thing. Crazy though how they are still working on it, "He explains that they're still working on getting her just right", this thing should have been under production and released by now, SSB is getting old. Guess the manufacturing facility was going all out on those AC amiibo lingering permanently on store shelves.

@Captain_Gonru Still now NX confirmation, no matter how I read it, guy isn't giving any secrets away. Guess it was too much to ask for him to say "Bayonetta amiibo is ready for production, saving it for the NX launch."

Was planning on starting B2 next week, so this is perfect timing.
Procrastination almost always pays off for videogames.

@Captain_Gonru B3 seems reasonable, though at the rate they are going w/ Scalebound it could be on NX2. I suppose a port could happen if they wanted to add in amibo support to unlock all that crazy stuff above.

SSB port is almost certain. Though my kids and I wonder how much a straight port and how much a combination of Wii U and 3DS as they had some differences. If NX plays both ways then having each versions specialties would make sense. And then Sakurai could work on Kid Icarus 2 and a port of the 3DS game to HD.

@DiscoGentleman You'd think they'd learn.

@C-Olimar That's your opinion. Those other characters you mentioned are Nintendo's properties so they're fair game for inclusion. I'm a Nintendo only gamer and though I own many various Gameboys and the DS Lite, I predominantly game on their home consoles. I'd say the majority of people here defending their inclusion play handheld games or play multi consoles and so don't understand my anger towards those companies.

@DiscoGentleman Would you like to comment on the story? No, you just like to indirectly troll my posts as you usually do.

Bayonetta is still one of the best designed female characters in games. They actually bothered to create a 'real woman', not a fantasy one and they were even consistent enough in their design approach, to extent that her personality.
Seeing as how rare this is, esp. in a Japanese game no less, this is no small feat at all.

Really looking forward to hopefully hearing something about Bayonetta 3 soon, as well as that amiibo, which better look awesome while sticking to the same design philosophy that created the ingame character.

I might pick up the Bayonetta Amiibo. Still both games on Wii U.

So what charecters can you buy at that shop? I know Jean is unlock able after beating the game, but who else?

Bayonetta 2 is a stunning title and I can't wait till this Amiibo is released.

Nice secret.

This is the amiibo I want the most , more Bayonetta is always a good good thing , Bayonetta 2 in my opinion is the best Wii U title out there .

This is truly wonderful. I really miss those old skool cheat codes where you had to enter a random sequence of buttons and directions. They were always a good reason to revisit games.

@Ralek85 Care to elaborate? I'm not being critical, I just don't see how Bayonetta is in any way a "real" woman. Everything about her, including her proportions, are heavily exaggerated. She might be tough and empowered, but it's easy to see that she's intended to be primarily a sex object, which isn't exactly a step forward for women in gaming...

Well I do hope the rest of the smash new amiibo are also nearing the end of the design/prototype phase. Perhaps once Smash is done I won't be compelled to buy so many amiibo. Anyone have the number to Amiibo Collectors Anonymous?

@Captain_Gonru "a good point of fusion"

Oh know, don't go back to using "Fusion". Fusion was Home and Away using the same cart, and in my mind joining together like Voltron for dual screen gameplay. Only w/ up to 4, or maybe even 8, Away on 1 Home.

Are you working? Haven't seen you in the thread were The Pokemon Company apparently outed NX as a hybrid. Not 100%, but it surley sounds like a hybrid. Of course you can't read it unless you pay for WSJ.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/09/nintendo_nx_will_change_the_concept_of_home_console_and_handheld_gaming_says_pokemon_company_president

@thesilverbrick I think the phrase you're looking for is "sex symbol." A "sex object" cannot be "tough and empowered."

@thesilverbrick Well, basically, from where I'm sitting that is exactly not the case. Yes, she is extremely archetypically attractive, so to speak, and no doubt her presentation is also extremely sexualised, but what makes her 'real' for me is that her proportions actually compute to a potential real person. I think it's most evident with her head, it's smaller than most female character modells, and such more in line with actual human beings.
Besides the head-to-body ratio, I do think the eye-size-to-head ratio also works in her favour. All this adds up to a sexualised, but not infantilized character. This further extends to her weaponry, which is a) not extremely oversized, as to once again not make her look like a child-with-boobs and b) she does not treat it the way, woman-in-archetypical-male role's normally treat their weapon (like Giant swords or guns/rifles etc).

She treats them with a certain professional disregard, they are tools of her craft, but she is not overly attached to them either, despite having them "stolen" from the typical male character in her place, which leads many female characters in games to almost worship their tools.
Now, to me, this is further supported by her personality. As I said, she is sexy, to me believably if extreme proportioned, yet not infantilized, which normally leads to a one specific female charactere and that is the gorgeous but disinterested "ice queen".
What typcial for those is, that while their appearance is desirable, their personality is either not, or it's actually outward hostile, something along the lines of being generally dismissive of men or just sexuality as a whole.

Bayonetta is not, and her designers actually play with this in several dimensions. One is the way she interacts with male characters in the game, she is dismissive only to the point, where you might say, she thinks they are beneath them, but that does not mean she's not willing to flirt at times. Really obvious is the way "lolipops" are being used. I mean, I do not have to explain the "meaning" behind that imagery, I guess, just look Lolipop Chainsaw or the ad-image for GTAV that caused Lindsay Lohan to sue Rockstar ^^
Yeah, she sucks on those things, but buy, they are ..... tiny, I mean compare the proportions and the way she "handles" them, and tell me if the imagery here is not pretty clear cut.

Bayonetta is not asexual in any way, she just thinks most men can't handle her, neither as a warrior nor as woman. She is actively threatening to men, esp. those stuck in traditiona role-modells, precisely because her threat extends to two cental spheres of masculinity, the spheres of violence and sex. And on top off all of that, she gleefully revels in that exuberance sense of emancipation and even superiority.

To me, this is remarkable, because PG must have known that the main audience for this game would still be the traditional one, meaning (mostly young) man.

So to make a character, that breaks the mold, not just visually (again, I think her legs can support her body, she is not going to keel over because of being too "top heavy", nor is her head or face proportioned to make her look like a non-threatening girl) but also her personality (again, she is no ice queen, if you "can't get her", it's not because she is just asexual at heart, or just disinterested in man in general, but because you simply could not measure up - that's the message I got at least^^) is remarkable.

There are a couple of more aspects to this, like her glasses for example, the whole cliched "librarian act" she has going, down to the almost classical "bun"-hairstyle that goes with that stereotype ... yet COMPLETELY undercutting said stereotype at the same time, because even with her "up" (she kinda of "let's it down" in combat and for her special moves etc.), she is NOT meek, submissve, quiet, introvert or anything associated with the "librarian"-stereotype, and she most certainly is not in any way asexual or sexually repressed, even with her hair up. It's not a transformation, because she IS who she IS, she is - once again in a threatening way to male authority - not playing the game, she is not hiding, she is not pretending:

If YOU feel threatend random alpha-male XYZ, that is your problem, she seems to say, I am willing to work with you, if you can keep up, but let's be clear, I'm not shifting down one gear for you ... there will be no pretenses with me

Bayonetta is Bayonneta, inside and outside of combat, and if you can't handle that 'dude' you better get lost, or she is going to make you 'get lost' instead

Seriously, imagine, just for a second, meeting a woman like Bayonetta ... tall, gorgeous, self-assured, downright powerful and clearly beyond witty ... I think that would be very intimidating to most if not all guys to be honest. This is not a typical male fantasy, unless you err on the side of maschoism of some kind

If anything, she will make you laugh, she will protect you from danger, and she will certainly be the one on top ...

@Ralek85 You missed one... and we don't want partially censored profanity either, thanks. But good effort on the post otherwise

@Ralek85 Wow, I really appreciate that thorough description. It's definitely refreshing to see someone back up their points with actual logic and facts on the Internet, haha. I can definitely see where you're coming from.

That said, while I do get that her personality and other things (like her choice of unexaggerated weaponry) lend themselves to a much more independent and powerful woman, I just can't help but shake the feeling that she's still primarily meant to be a sex symbol. I understand that sexuality does sell things in this world, but if she was not meant to be that, why is she wearing clothing that disappears nearly entirely throughout the course of the game? I would still love to see a game someday with a primary antagonist that's female who is fully clothed in a reasonable fashion and is realistically proportioned. It's probably just a pipe dream at this point, but it would be great if someday women In gaming could be looked at as something other than sex symbols or damsels in distress.

@Ralizah True, true. Poor word choice on my part. Thanks.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE they may have been remakes, but they were more fully ground-up modernisations than basic updates with tweaked graphics/sound, arguably even more effort than, say, REmake on the GC, or SNES Mario All-Stars, and amongst some gamers better received than some of the recent mainline FF games.

But that's not even the point of the argument - point was that Ryu has been in a core game from his series on a current gen Nintendo console, which is more than can be said for numerous other cast members, like Captain Falcon, Ness, or even Samus. Just because you don't own a 3DS doesn't mean games on it can't be used as material for Smash Bros. Even historically, the first SNES version SF2 was a system-shifter when it was packed-in.

Whilst you're entitled to your opinion, the logic behind it is flawed and deliberately avoiding key facts for the sake of your own point.

@Captain_Gonru You don't have to worry about being mean to me, I can take it. Well coming from you and a few others I can take it, anybody else I'll destroy.

Nitty gritty details. The past 2 years I've always gotten hung up on the nitty gritty. How many "profiles" does a hybrid have? PSP had 1 so I returned it. How many save points? How does couch multiplayer work? (Its why w'ell never have a PSVR) Where does the DLC go w/ 1 cart, 2 systems? I think 3DS carts have saves but not LC, so that's probably the model. It can't be any worse than the awful awful WiiU - can't pick internal or external, can't hook up 2 external at once - thing is a nightmare to work with.

So yeah, even after we know, we won't know, and then the real discussions start. Like when does Wii U get dual Gmaepad games? When does it gt Gamecube VC games? When does EU get TVii? No matter what Ninteod tells us at the reveal, 10-15% will be lies, so we'll have to figure out which parts.

But first we have to figure out how many parts it has?
#justtellus

@thesilverbrick Right back at you I like conversations, and the only way to have a conversation, is by exchanging arguments. Sadly, you are right, few people are willing to make the effort necessary, which I find a bit frightening sometime, since most of us live in democracies, which, I think, actually necessitate an open exchange of ideas and arguments on daily basis to sustain themselves.

That's a different story though ... ^^

Anyways, I still think - as I said - Bayonetta is realistically, if extremely proportioned, though one could probably argue, that her hips, waist and behind are quite --- well, at the very least exceptional

The interesting thing to me is, that while I agree with your point about damsels in distress (which Bayonetta is absolutely not) and sexsymbols in general, the latter is actually not as clear-cut-n-dry as it's often made out to be.

I think you rephrase "sexsymbol" to state "sexobject" or "object pandering to the 'male gaze'", and most of the time, you would be right on the money, and that would be the extent of it.

With Bayonetta, you might be right on the money, though to me, she is more like a "sexsubject", for all the reasons I gave, but that certainly not the extent of what makes Bayonetta Bayonetta. She also smart, good at her "job", she is a survivor, she is a loyal friend and her interaction with herself as young Cereza, shows that she is also caring and helpful. She has a bunch of traits, some typically assigned to males "badass warrior", some typically assigned to females "nuturing supporter".

The larger point though, and this is actually reflected in the evolution of feminist thinking, is that sexualisation and emancipation are not mutually exclusive. Basically, there are considered to be several waves of feminism, several evolving schools of thought, and there is therefore no clear consensus on this issue, and probably never will, because at the end of the day, emancipation means that it will be up to the individual, man or woman, to define his- or herself, and not to be defined by others.

What I love about Bayonetta, is that she is not someone who is just physically attractive, which is easy enough to achieve with modern technology, but she also has a alluring voice and an even more alluring sense of wit. She is the kind of woman, you want to hang out with, just as much as you want to be intimate with her. That itself doesn't make her unique in gaming, but still rare, definitely in japanese gams, and in this type of action/fighting game.

I think Bayonetta would be a great at just sitting down, having a few drinks and playing some coop-but-also-competitive rounds of Bayonetta 2 with Maybe in that sense, she is an even "worse" stereotype, like the "ideal girlfriend" kind of type, but maybe that itself is just "guys" assuming their preferences and hobbies are inherently "male" and as such, there could even be a an "ideal girlfriend" for them.
It's hardly a simple issue, but I can appreciate that Platinum Games tried to push the envelope here, even if maybe just a bit - it's something.

As for the hair ... I don't know it's a fair point, but I have to admit, it's just an insanely cool idea and it really works well, and on a metaphorical level, she is using the primarly female trait of "long hair" as a weapon ... and when she is not using it, she doesn't make much of a fuss about it. Again, I would argue, there are at least several ways to look at this, and not all about "objectifying".

Overall, a tough nut to crack, if at all possible, but like I said, I for one applaud PG for their effort, they made a fantastic character, on every level conceivable, and one that goes way beyond a sexsymbol, while still being sexy beyond a doubt.

@Captain_Gonru I'd say for both a handheld or a home console (heck, even for a hybrid) the DLC could be stored on on board solid state memory modules, like the one's in the Wii U, and of course, you could put an SD card slot in a handheld, and there will more than likely be USB ports in the home console part, so problem solved.

Cartridges can indeed take care of save games and the like, much like they have always done.

I put a crap ton of time into that game and I never knew there were secret shops! Another example of the brilliance of Bayonetta 2!

omg too much halos, bayonetta 2 has the #1 graphics on wii u there i said it

@Haru17 so true lol, just finished code geass a week ago btw

@Captain_Gonru I would imagine that a handheld wouldn't have nearly as much on board memory as a home console, so on the handheld that would probably go to the SD card, and that could indeed be inserted into the home console.

But the more logical scenario would be to do it the other way around and to have a connection to the console and then stream/download the DLC to the handheld, by syncing it with the home console. Or have some way to register that you have both devices which allows you access to the DLC on the console via WiFi or 4G, never having to download it to the handheld.

The XilinX technology that has often been mentioned in relation to Nintendo, in both the Nvidia and DMP rumors is able to stream HD video, audio and data with an unprecedented stability and it is able to do so over large distances, even worldwide if need be. Sounds like the ticket to streaming a couple of GB's of DLC...

Or you could just access the data of your account that is stored online, and that could even allow access if your console is switched off because both the game and its DLC could be on a server farm and in that case, all you would need to gain access, is your NNID.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE That seems like a silly reason to not buy an amiibo for a character you like... Then again I dislike Corrin in Smash, so I see your point.

I'm going to get Cloud/Bayo to complete my 3rd party Smash amiibo collection

I guess this in turn confirms that Cloud and Corrin are still on the way, so I can't wait to pick all three up.

Still need to get Ryu, so I can have all the third-party amiibo.

I'll need to go back to Bayonetta 2 at some point to try those tricks out.

@allav866 The "Sonic Adventure" duology, "Sonic Advance" trilogy, "Sonic Rush" duology, "Sonic Unleashed" (mostly), "Sonic Colors" (although I personally disagree), and "Sonic Lost World" (mostly) are all good Sonic games on Nintendo systems along with the "Mega Collection" and "Gems" compilations and 3D remasters of Sonic 1 & 2. You just have to do your research to pick out the good from the mediocre or downright bad.

Anyway, this is so obscure that if it didn't come straight from the developers, I'd definitely think this was one of those fake cheats.

@AlternateButtons @BulbasaurusRex I was really just trolling. I actually like the 3DS version of Sonic Generations, and it made me regret never playing the Rush games.

@BensonUii I got a page error what is it?
(I'm guessing it's the spin off he talked about, but I feel this was just small talk considering if he wanted it it would've already happened. And besides I font think 3ds needs to have a handheld version of every home console games. (It already did that and hurt wiiu sales.)