Just recently we ran a poll asking you which Nintendo games / franchises you'd like to see in the NX launch window, assuming that to be a period of around six months. Plenty of you pitched in, with The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild and a 3D Mario title being the leaders, with a new Metroid Prime title sneaking into third place. The format (allowing up to five choices) meant lots of close results, but ultimately it was an opportunity to see what some of the Nintendo Life community wants to see on NX. Poor old NX Fit got 0%.
This list, though, has a slightly different approach and won't necessarily reflect all of the community's preferences. We're listing ten games / franchises that could be an ideal line-up over the first year of the NX's time on the market. With the strong likelihood of NX being a unified platform (of sorts) that supports both portable and TV play, we can be confident that Nintendo will serve up more than ten games in 12 months; nevertheless, ten is a good number for our purposes.
The angle here is to consider which of Nintendo's IPs can satisfy a broad audience, keeping dedicated fans happy while also luring in those that drifted away following the Wii / DS era. The size of the 3DS audience bodes well for Nintendo, but nevertheless it'll want its hardware concept and software line-up to win back some of the audience lost to rival platforms, smartphones and tablets.
This list doesn't represent the ten games we most want, necessarily, but attempts to incorporate a range of genres and IPs that can tempt a broad cross-section of gamers. This writer's number one hope is for a Metroid title, ideally Prime IV, but that's not on the list. Maybe that's a franchise best-suited to year two or three. There's also no 3D Mario despite that being another of our preferences; the reasoning for this is in the top entry, and is also influenced by development timelines.
So what sorts of games could give the NX a strong start in year one? Some thoughts are below.
Super Mario Maker NX
It's understandable for the preference among a number of long-term and committed Nintendo fans to be a 3D Mario title; this writer agrees. Yet the cold, hard reality is that, in general, 2D Mario releases out-sell or match their 3D equivalents, while also being more accessible for less experienced players.
So why 'Mario Maker NX'? The level creation tool on Wii U felt like a game changer, despite some quibbles around the limitations in the sharing / searching of levels. It gave players the power to create their own Mario levels, and in the process some users produced fantastic stages, while the tool-set allowed for neat twists on the usual Mario formula. Having unlocked the toolbox to the world, can (or should?) Nintendo go back to releasing standard 2D Mario games? It could do that, but it has the opportunity to do something more exciting.
For one thing, a deluxe / upgraded Super Mario Maker could let creators setup their own 'Worlds' and groups of stages, as many try to do already through social media and custom websites. On top of this Nintendo could release its own new 2D Mario titles through the overall Mario Maker app, included on the cartridge and then as downloadable 'packs' in the future.
Imagine you buy Super Mario Maker NX and it has 'Super Mario Bros. NX' included, an eight world adventure that plays around with new ideas for the series, perhaps hopping between styles with a Sonic Generations-style plot twist. Or even official four world short games that use the retro engines, giving us the Super Mario Bros. 3 or Super Mario World direct sequels we've always dreamed of. The new Mario Maker could become a mini platform within the broader NX platform, with some of the later 2D Mario DLC packs also available at retail as code cards.
This could be a high-profile 2D Mario title at launch, giving early adopters the fun of creating their own Mario worlds while also playing the latest and greatest 'full' game from Nintendo's master creators. The big 3D Mario game we want could then be ideal for year 2 or 3 of the NX, especially as Shigeru Miyamoto has teased that a 'new kind of Mario' could be revealed at E3 2017 or later next year.
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
This is the most obvious of the lot, as it's already confirmed and we know quite a lot about it from E3. It's up in the air whether this adventure will hit day one on NX, that's far from guaranteed, but Nintendo will surely hit 2017 as it promises. After a long time creating the physics engine and underlying systems, this will be one of the most hyped and significant titles to land in the NX's first year.
This one surfaced in recent reports, but even without some sources whispering about this franchise there's logic to it. When you combine the anticipated impact of Pokémon Sun and Moon on 3DS and the viral hit of Pokémon GO, the series is red hot right now. Despite the varied new features on the way in November, it's also worth noting that Game Freak has had the luxury of making Sun and Moon with an established engine from previous 3DS titles, likely easing the overall workload.
What form would Pokémon take on NX? Considering the likelihood that the new system is primarily a portable, it's not too outrageous to wonder whether a third spin on Sun and Moon could come in late 2017. Spin-offs are also an option, and there'd likely be a temptation to adopt some of the real world augmented reality success that's driven GO. It should be exciting to see what Game Freak has in store.
Another relatively safe bet, with Nintendo recently stating that development on Pikmin 4 is back on the agenda following downtime while other projects were prioritised. Once cited as far along in development, it's certainly not a push to think this one could be a key year one title on NX.
After the long wait for Pikmin 3, the franchise has at least enjoyed a current-gen revival, with a decent reception, DLC and even a few animated shorts. The biggest strength of this one is the fondness that Shigeru Miyamoto has for his creation, meaning he'll always go to bat for it. Importantly, too, it's a brand with an appealing concept and approach, which could fit well in targeting a fresh audience on an innovative new system.
It was clear with Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer and Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival that these spin-offs were simply passing time. The former was a vehicle for amiibo cards and seemed to sell rather well on 3DS, especially in Japan; amiibo Festival, on the other hand, seemed to be a notable flop for Wii U. Plenty of fans of all types, it's fair to say, want another full entry.
Nintendo will feel confident about the prospects for a full entry, too, with Animal Crossing: New Leaf proving a hit and delivering a breakthrough in social media and sharing. The fact that this year will bring a smart device entry is also a bonus in the hopes for a 2017 NX game, not a negative; Nintendo has spoken of the ambition to have smart device games and apps interact with dedicated system games. Animal Crossing seems like a perfect candidate for that sort of connectivity.
A clever spin on the Splatoon name we've seen used a lot online, it seems like this should certainly be on the agenda. With major content updates on the Wii U title now done, it wouldn't be surprising if a sequel has been planned for a short while in light of the IP's popularity following its debut. The brand is particularly big in Japan, too, with plenty of concerts and merchandise, so that could be key to strategic thinking in Nintendo's Kyoto HQ.
Spla2oon could also help fill a genre gap for NX, much as it has in this current generation. A third-person shooter with typical 'Nintendo' twists, it's best loved as a competitive online game. There are multiple areas where a sequel could make improvements, too, such as increased communication options when playing online and somewhat simple features like stage selections. It should also be said that the final Wii U iteration does a lot of good things that can be carried on.
It may be a game enjoyed the most at home rather than on the go, but could be vital as a 'fresh' Nintendo game for a new generation.
Mario Party / Nintendo Party
This entry is really flying the flag for a Nintendo-made party / family game, though the Mario branding could make sense regardless. Mario Party 11 may not be ideal, so perhaps a different naming convention could be used like with the portable entries.
That said, the release of Mario Party Star Rush this year could lead to some concerns around brand fatigue, so perhaps Nintendo could have another go at producing a party game that features multiple famous brands. Nintendo Land didn't enjoy anything like the success of Wii Sports as a pack-in title, but we feel it offered a lot. A similar collection that makes the most of the NX concept could be a welcome release, whether as a pack-in or a budget retail title to tempt families and those that want to enjoy their new system with friends.
Super Smash Bros. Definitive Edition
This was actually cited as a Bandai Namco-led NX launch project by Dr. Serkan Toto, a respected analyst based in Japan. Bandai Namco was the primary development partner on the 3DS and Wii U editions, and we strongly suspect it'd be a 'definitive' edition that includes all DLC and maybe one or two extra goodies right out of the box. After all, Masahiro Sakurai is likely to take some time before we see another full numbered entry in the franchise.
In any case, it wouldn't be surprising to see a release like this in the launch year of the system. Enhanced remakes and ports can provide valuable padding in the libraries or new consoles, and if it boasts some extras alongside all existing DLC we suspect a number of players would take the plunge. As one of the slickest and most impressive Wii U games on a technical level, it could also be a good showcase for the potential portable powerhouse of NX.
We were hesitant about this one, but have included it as it would make a lot of sense as a Holiday 2017 title. Mario Kart 7 gave the 3DS a big boost around 7-8 months into its lifespan, while Mario Kart 8 missed the 2013 Holiday season for Wii U and that was, arguably, a significant blow to the home console.
We'd hope, all told, that this would be an all-new Mario Kart rather than a port of 8, especially as Nintendo could utilise the engine and lessons learnt from the first HD entry in the series. As the DLC on Wii U showed Nintendo is no longer afraid of bringing other franchises into the mix, either, so the shackles are off for what could be a diverse and exciting entry in the series. The building blocks from MK8 can provide a foundation for something special.
Art Academy Online
This scored poorly in the community poll, and we suspect many responses to this entry are "WTF" and "LOL", but hear us out for this wildcard addition.
Above you've got games covering platforming, action adventure, racing, fighting, strategy, social gaming and variations of those categories. As stated in our introduction, rather than a bucket list of the games we want, this is partly aiming to address key releases to tackle a wide audience - on that note a fully tooled, online enabled drawing app with sharing and even simple animation could be an exciting showcase for a device with portable and TV-based options.
As we've seen with Miiverse and Art Academy: Atelier, users are able to produce extraordinary art pieces and enjoy sharing them. Likewise Flipnote Studio was popular on DSiWare, before issues with sharing and inappropriate use meant that ambitious online plans in Flipnote Studio 3D were ditched. The latter was a pity, as Nintendo went to a lot of effort to work on an online infrastructure and reward system before dropping it at the eleventh hour prior to a release in the West.
A drawing app that uses a touch screen would therefore need moderating and parental controls to meet Nintendo's requirements, but the company will have surely learnt lessons from those aforementioned releases. Yet an impressive drawing app with animation features, with intuitive and fleshed out online features and perhaps some light-hearted minigames, could be a good showcase for any powerful new system. It wouldn't be as big a seller as the titles above or others that have missed out on this list, but would provide welcome diversity and an enthusiastic, active community of its own.
Those are some of our thoughts then - some obvious, some based on solid reports and others that are a little left-field. Let us know your thoughts, as always, in the comments!
Super Mario NX and Mario kart 9 at launch for me or gtfo until black Friday next year.
I'd just like to see anything worth getting excited for at the NX's launch. Seems like Nintendo no longer feels the need to have a killer app ready for their new system. "Oh, we have a new console launching in 2006? Well, uh, guess we'll move this Zelda off the Gamecube so our fans can have something to play." And I'm sure no one's forgotten the 3DS and Wii U launch lineups...or maybe they have, and that's the point.
YES!!! ART ACADEMY!!! art academy is why i bought a 3ds and wii u in the first place. nintendo's always been about more than just playing games. look how much exercise p-go players have been getting! lookit wii sports! lookit the miracle piano! future rembrandts can now say they got their start from nintendo.
expecting new super mario bros nx
I really don't want any definitive editions, we get enough of that crap from other publishers.
I fear however, that is the only reason we don't have the Bayonetta, Cloud and Corrin amiibo yet.
Seriously, how long has Smash been out? When were those characters released? How on earth do we not have those amiibo yet? Unless they're been saved for the NX launch for a Smash Bros remaster.
never heared you could use a 2 for a t. that's not 1337
@A01 It's not like definitive editions take much time to make. And Nintendo doesn't seem inclined to overwhelm us with a great number of them, either.
Is there a chance we will see GameCube titles in the NX eshop?
Zelda and Metroid (2D or Prime) would be perfect for me. Already half way there, come on Nintendo!
A proper amiibo-centric game would be nice.
I personally only like Pikmin 4 from this list, but I agree it would be the ideal line up.
Monster Hunter and Splatoon would be enough for me to get the console sooner than later, though I still got plenty of games to buy for my Wii U and 3DS so it would probably still be a later purchase.
Captain Toad Treasure Master
Rad Racer 3
Urban Champion 2
As much as I'd like a lot of the titles on this list, most of them already have instalments on the current systems that I'm still perfectly happy to continue with, so I'm not all that bothered about getting them on the NX.
The only exception to this would be Pikmin... Pikmin 3 just wasn't long enough to keep us going, and I think it could be amazing on the hybrid console, with better touchscreen integration than the previous game, and different game modes that would be perfect for switching between portable and home console modes.
Why would I want to buy a new system, only to rebuy all the games, I bought for it's predecessor over the course of the last 3 years or so. Not to mention that said games, did nothing to make the predecessor a success (although, yeah, they were streched out over a significant amount of time, for sure).
I think it's both crucial that the NX offers something different from the WiiU as well as some 'more', and I mean that quite literal.
If all we are going to get for the forseeable future are "enhanced" version of a handful of great WiiU games, or sequels, that are very, very similar to the original, then again, what is the point?
I'd like to see an unprecedented relationship with Sega to revive stagnant IPs like Streets of Rage, Golden Ass, Ristar, Vectorman etc.
I find most of these plausible, but cast a serious doubt for Mario Kart and Spla2oon, in terms of a launch titles (no doubt they'd arrive at some point). I just don't think they've had enough time to develop them. I am curious as to why Metroid isn't on here though. I know it isn't a great seller in Japan, but it would certainly turn some heads in the west.
Is "launch year" 2017 or March 2017 - Feb 2018? I suppose it doesn't matter too much as nothing should release in Jan, maybe 1 in early Dec but pre-BF in Nov is better, and maybe 1 in late Feb.
10 is a nice round number so I won't argue w/ artistic license.
I'm not drinking enough N-Aid for this comment though.
"we can be confident that Nintendo will serve up more than ten games in 12 months;"
After all of the delays w/ Zelda - at least 14 months, and Pikmin 3 - 3 months, and Starfox, 3 months - are we really sure Nintendo can do more than 10 games in 12 months on new hardware? How many Pushmo and Mini's on the March games do we need? Or remasters, as 2 of these games seem to be.
Of course my biggest issue w/ this idea is taking for granted it's a handheld w/ TV out, b/c at this point we still don't have anything official, ti's all just leaks and rumours. I do think Tegra X1 could happen, and a handheld w/ TV out is probably the way Ntineod should go, but I'd also like to see a more powerful home console that plays those same games, not just TV out on handheld games.
A suprised Mario Strikers 2 would be well recieved
I want F-Zero!!!!!! D:
Very much yes.
I will pay any amount of money for a new Streets of Rage. Kickstart it if you must Sega, I'll fund the entire thing myself.
Ristar and Victorman would be amazing too.
The unprecedented partnership with EA was a disaster, but such a partnership with Sega could be amazing.
I agree with the list... but it's missing one thing: 3D MARIO PLATFORMER
C'mon... we all know that will push systems (that & Zelda).
@6ch6ris6 It IS possible to pronounce the symbol '2' as 'two' though - if you're feeling adventurous.
And 'two' is pronounced the same as 'too'.
And replacing '2' with 'too' in 'Spla2oon' gives 'Splatoooon', which looks a bit silly, but arguably less silly in its unexpanded form than 'Spla2n' or 'Splatwon'.
No, you don't. Not with Miyamoto still around.
""If we create a new type of controller interface, and we find a controller interface that's particularly suited for F-Zero, then maybe we'll do something with it in the future."
Where the RPGs at?
Aside from the FPS, it's the most popular genre out there (unless you were to lump all sports titles together).
I recon hyrule warriors 2 is an NX launch title.
This need a new Fatal Frame too that is actually marketed. The last one just wasn't marketed at all they preferred to talk about Mario Tennis instead. Maybe another Xeno game to go with it.
@6ch6ris6 I completely agree. Spla2oon would be read like Spla-two-oon. I much prefer the Splatwon, as that makes much more grammatical sense.
I'm getting tired of this! Enough speculation, can't we just wait until someting is officially announced?
And no, we don't need a new Mario Maker (it should be the official end of 2D Mario games because there's nothing substantial to add or improve, it's the ultimate 2D Mario game), Mario Party, AC or another Pikmin entry.
Heck, if the rumours about the mobile graphics in the NX are true, we won't even need a new Splatoon, Mario Kart or Smash Bros. Because the hardware would be barely more powerful than what the Wii U has and those three games are already near-perfect gameplay-wise, so - with the exception of Splatoon maybe, but only because it's a new franchise - there is no need for a completely new game. A re-release would be suffice.
Otherwise, of course Splatoon, MK and Smash (and a re-release of Mario Maker) should be launch titles, together with Zelda and Mario they have the most attraction.
And I think at this point everyone is (rightly) assuming that Breath of the Wild will be a launch title.
What surprises me though (despite my current dislike for speculation) is that this article mentioned inferior franchises like AC or MP but completely left out a new 3D Mario game and a new F-Zero game. Both are long overdue and one could interpret Miyamoto's comments (he always considers what he's saying and has often hinted at upcoming games in the past) in such a way that those two and Pikmin 4 are already developing them.
But still, all of us constantly interpreting and speculating is useless, it's nothing but hot air.
I think they should do an ambassador-like program where you can get a few select Gamecube VC titles for free if you buy the system within the first few months. IMO that would give us an incentive to buy at launch without Nintendo throwing money away.
I'd love another Nintendoland title. That wasn't available on the poll, but my household played it daily for a while
I've never understood the point that 2D Marios are better suited for less experienced players. With less experienced, I always think of them as basically too stupid to orientate in a 3D room which is basically necessary for everyday life. Of course, people may get lost but that's where the sense of experimenting and adventuring kicks in. You can try everything you think you can do, it's just a game. E.g. you can get this star if you can't figure out how to get that other star in Super Mario 64. Imo, with every 3D Mario game, the series has become more and more linear and that is a bad thing: Yes, you may attract more people to buy and play your game but how should these people ever get better and smarter at videogames if you spoon-feed them the solution. Anyway, sorry for that rant but that's a point I hear way too often and it always gets me triggered.
HOWEVER, I'd like a Super Mario Maker NX with lots of more items, themes and such than a 3D Mario game Nintendo would butcher like they did 3D Land and 3D World. A Sm4sh Definite Edition would be sweet. It could include more popular 3DS stages into the WiiU one, include every bit of DLC and maybe even brand-new content like gasp Ice Climbers!
@Maxz oh okay it's that kind of thing...
well people who can not speak english will probably not know how to spell it then.
and yes it should be "spla2n" then.
why not just call it splatoon 2 ?
Pokemon Art Academy is great; I would totally buy a Nintendo Art Academy if it came to NX!
@HeroOfTime32 Actually, I think a new 2D-Mario would sell systems even better than a 3D-Mario. They always sell really well (and most definitely attract lots of players as well). I think it's important to have accessible and "casual" games for the system to succeed.
I know that many people want NX to launch with a new 3D-Mario, but that may not be the best move financially. 3D-Mario is definitely coming to the system at some point, though.
Miiverse is already there, so if they made it more complicated, there wouldn't be any need for Art Academy. Oh, also, Mario Maker 2.0 as day 1 makes perfect sense or as a pack-in title so everybody has it. That way there will always be more courses for it. Multiplayer for something like that could be really fun.
Mar - amiibo Snap! or amiibo Land, get all those amiibo owners to buy an NX, probably packed in
Apr - 2D Mario, SMM NX could work
May - MK9 or Spla2oon, but not both in 2017, too much online
June - Zelda Wild, give Wii U owners a 3 month head start
July - SSB NX, combined WiiU/3DS versions
Aug - Pikmin 4
Sept - something violent and mosou like
Oct - Luigi's Mansion 3 for Halloween
Nov - a much better Animal Crossing game
Problem with my list, heavily tilted towards home games as I don't play 3DS games. And we don't know what 3rd party support will be like. There should be JRPGs - DQ11, FF7 Remake. And hopefully a good sports game, sluggers or strikers.
I guess this is a big question that needs to be answered - is Ninteod going to pigeon whole itself into a certain type of game now that NX is a handheld w/ TV out? Will there be an emphasis on "Mii" games? I for one wish they would be updated to look much less like their Wii heritage. Will they focus on casual party games or focus on games like Kid Icarus and F-Zero and Metroid?
As littles a we've seen of NX - nothing - Zelda Wild is about the only game, w/ hope for Pikmin 4 which could be a Snap game or 2D sidescoller. I think we can guess where Ntineo is heading after we see the NX games revealed. We do know they are making "mobile" games now, so will that let them focus more on games that aren't match 3, aren't amiibo and Mii based? Will NX be a year of remasters like PS4 was when it launched?
Now I want the hardware revealed just so I can see the game line-up. "Mii, amiibo and remasters" has a nice rhythm too it, and may help bring in Wii owners who skipped Wii U, but Id' rather see "Zelda, Kid Icarus and F-Zero" as the emphasis.
I actually want Sonic Transformed 2 rather than Mario Kart 9. Mario Kart tracks are short and kiddy.
@KoopaTheGamer I know, I know.... (damnit, why does this have to be the case!?)
I'm hopefully optimistic that the Super Mario 3D World team (who has been suspiciously quiet since the 2013 release of that game) is working on a new 3D platformer.
If there will be a Super Mario Maker NX then I really hope there will be a way to "unlock" Super Mario All-Stars/16-bit versions of SMB1 and SMB3
Also I hope future Mario Party games goes back to the traditional style of boards rather than all-in-one movement and that they should do a Mario Kart and have retro boards from past games in addition to new boards.
When it comes to Pokémon, I still believe (and hope) that NX will be backwards compatible with 3DS so that you can enjoy Sun/Moon on NX and even better on your TV. Been wanting that ever since the Super Gameboy/GBA Player days. Been too long!
I wouldn't have Mario Party / Nintendo Party or Art Academy Online on my list, but the rest looks very good to me.
A couple other things I'd like see are some big third party games, and a brand new Nintendo IP.
I think that the next Mario Kart game should be Nintendo Kart or Smash Kart, covering different franchises. Something like Sonic and Sega All Stars. Nintendo already tried that with the MK8 DLC and honestly, those were some of the best tracks. It would inject fresh air to the franchise and expand it beyond the Mario franchise limitatios. Metroid themed tracks? It would be awesome.
@A01 Good point. Miyamoto has really fallen off his rocker as of late. I take it you weren't a fan of Star Fox Zero much? lol
Super Mario Maker is good for couple of days/weeks, later there is monotony and annoying limitations are more and more obvious.
For me it would be MK9(on second thought, fudge it, F-zero!), Bayonetta 3, sequel to The Wonderful 101, Zelda, Startropics 3 or reboot, 2D and 3D Mario and something as excellent as Tropical Freeze. Maybe some proper Kirby and not that crappy yarn wool thing.
All very nice but talk about deja vu! Hopefully an indie developer can come to the rescue with something that grabs the wider gaming community's interest the way No Man's Sky has done. Relying on increasingly hoary old Nintendo franchises will only preach to the converted.
Doesn't "Spla2n" make more sense? Otherwise its Splat - two - oon...
@A01 I want my cloud strife amiibo!!!
@Ignyte personally, i'd prefer splatwo. for all we know, they'll go with splatoonx.
I certainly wouldn't complain if all ten of those games appeared in the first year of the system.
Also, I wanna see an F-Zero a some point. And, in some magical fantasy world, I'd love to see a fully 3D version of something like Mother 3 on their too.
Edit: Although, I'd actually get rid of Mario Party / Nintendo Party and replace that with a brand new and proper WarioWare game that really shows off the system's strengths.
@rjejr If Twilight Princess is any indication, Nintendo will release Breath of the Wild on NX a few weeks before the Wii U, to try and get people to buy their new console.
Animal Crossing New Leaf with newest update = 8.9 / 10 from me
If Animal Crosing NX have tons of OMG features and even better than 3DS, probably 9.5 or 9.9 / 10 from me. Please, Nintendo. Granted my little wish...
And, let's be honest here: I want to see every single game on your original poll appear on NX at some point.
Mario Kart would be awesome, absolutely. These games usually have about 3 years between releases, and when the NX launches it'll have been roughly 3 years since Mario Kart 8. If you go by the latest DLC release date, then maybe 2018 is more likely, which wouldn't be bad either and gives them more time to make this a fully proper Mario Kart game. Either way I hope they don't make the mistakes with Mario Kart NX that they did with Mario Kart 8 (mostly related to stupid character choices and Battle Mode).
I'm also really hoping for that SSB Definitive Edition for that matter. The current Wii U version has some issues that I really don't like and keep me from playing it more frequently, such as long loading times, some slowdown issues (most notably when changing the camera angle during certain zoomed-in shots, but also during gameplay sometimes, and either way it really bugs me), and some control issues. I just hope that we'll be able to transfer our save files to the NX version though, because I really don't want to go through playing Classic, All-Star and all that all over again with every single character, not to mention the stupid way of unlocking new Mii hats, outfits, custom special moves and whatever else. I mean, if they fix it so that you can't get the same thing twice (or at least GREATLY deminish the chances of that happening), I'll be fine with it, but really, completing Smash Wii U 100% was not very fun because of that.
As for Splatoon, I think it might be too early for a new version of that, since they basically only just fully finished off the Wii U version. I'd love a new Splatoon, but I just don't think it's likely yet. Maybe a year or two after the NX launch, and I'll be looking forward to the grand return of the Splatfests as well. Hopefully kicking off with something like Inklings vs Octolings, with the latter also hopefully being playable.
For me, a new Mario 3D game would make it an absolute must-buy on day 1. It's no question that one will come, but these are still games I always look forward to regardless. Especially so if Yoshi is in them, but that's always a big questionmark. I was sad he wasn't in 3D World. I'll also accept a new Yoshi game instead of course (2D or 3D), being the Yoshi fan I am, but I don't see it likely to get another one of those so soon. ..if they do make one though, I hope it won't be made by Artoon/Arzest, I can't forgive them for what they did with Yoshi's New Island.
Regardless of what games come up during the launch period though, I have good hopes that it'll do better than the Wii U. At least.. if Nintendo truly learned from their mistakes with the Wii U.
But seriously I'll edit the list when I've more time. Still, it's not bad to begin with.
I'm on board for LoZ, MK and Smash. Everything else I don't want, but all those games would certainly help the NX's chances at being successful. No argument here
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I'd take a Prime remaster over ANYTHING. Yup, even Zelda
Super Mario Sunshine HD and then SMS2 pls
I agree with the list but I think Metroid would be cool
Aaaaand don't forget the secret RetroStudios game
@Samuel-Flutter "Nintendo will release Breath of the Wild on NX a few weeks before the Wii U"
I hope you are just being cynical. That would be a swift kick to the gonads for anybody who bought a Wii U for Zelda expecting it to be out in 2015 or even 2016. I expect they'll be released simultaneously, in June, or Sept, not March, but I'd really like to see Wii U owners get first crack.
If Nitneod needs a reason, they should have other launch window titles available to sell NX. If they are relying on Zelda alone that's just bad b/c then people will just play it on Wii U. And the first month almost any console will sell out, b/c early adopters are addicted to their one up-man ship and you can only put so much stock on a shelf at once. So you sellout the console to early adopters, then release a big hitter like Zelda a few months later to reignite interest, and summer is normally slow. It also gives those other launch games a chance to sell, otherwise everyone will just get NX and Zelda and forget about the rest.
I am really curious about the games now though, hardware is hardware, we need the games.
Super Mario Maker NX not interested in this series
Zelda: Breath of the Wild getting it on Wii U
Pokemon depends on the game
Animal Crossing not interested in this franchise anymore. Loved the original. Wild World and City Folk were basically the same
Splatoon not interested in this series
Pikmin have yet to play 2 and 3. First one was great
Mario Party meh, 5 was the last good one
Super Smash Bros the series has become stale after Melee
Mario Kart didn't care much for 7 and 8
Art Academy eh, no
The only games that will make me buy an NX day 1 are a 3D Mario platformer like 64 and Sunshine and a 2D Metroid game.
So yeah, I already know I'll probably wait 3-4 years before buying it. If it hasn't flopped at that point at least.
With this list I'll probably skip the console for the first 6 or 8 months. Super Smash maybe, but I played so many hours in Wii U/3ds that I don't know. Pokemon only Snap would do for me.
Breath of Wild interest me but I'm not totally sold and MK9 hell yeah.
So there's a lot of games that I want play but nothing like Persona 5 on PS4 or Fire Emblem Awakening on 3ds (huge jrpg fan), that immediately made me buy the console.
Kid Icarus probably would do the job and F-Zero/Metroid certainly would.
That said if the concept is really awesome and they use Tegra X2 or anything in the same level or superior I'll buy at launch no matter what.
I think this is a nice list. However, we still don't know what the NX is, therefore how can we be sure that reiterations of past titles will translate well to the new system?
@Yasume Why are you on a Nintendo site? Serious question.
Sm4sh, MK8, Splatoon, and SMK are still relatively new. However, Smash has been confirmed for the NX, but of course, it's too soon for a new release (Sma5h) - so a definitive version works for me since I still need to be playing this game. Include all the DLC, all the 3DS content, and a couple of other extra bonuses (a few new characters, stages, and maybe even an adventure mode), and I'm game.
As for MK8 and Splatoon, I say hold-off. Instead of rereleasing these titles in the same vain as Smash, why not fill the gaps with 1P Super Mario and Metroid adventures (and Zelda BotW of course) for the time being, and release MK9 and "Spla2oon" in late 2017 and beyond? Perhaps games such as a Pokémon Stadium-esque game (PS3?), Mario Party 11, a new F-Zero and others could help fulfil that multiplayer bracket until then.
It's a tricky situation - the Wii U still possesses relatively new, high quality titles where new instalments aren't needed just yet, however a new console warrants a new game in each series. Nintendo need to make sure they don't make the same mistake with the NX that they did with the Wii U - and that's have a lack of their signature, core titles within the first couple of years of the new console's release.
In no particular order,
1. Any 3D platformer (hoping DK makes comeback)
2. Kid Icarus sequel
3. Love authors idea for SMM
4. Ssb4 definitive must come with smash run & tour, all dlc, stages and hopefully ice climbers and custom moves for the dlc char
5. Pikmin 4
6. Animal Crossing
7. Pokemon Earth
8. Zelda BotW
9. Mario strikers NX
10. Warioware to show off capabilities
Anything but Wii U rehashes. I see the common sense behind it, but the amount of remakes and rehashes/remasters has been getting a bit ridiculous.
For first party titles, I'd buy Pilotwings NX at launch. Otherwise, I'll be waiting at least a few months.
Tbh, I wouldn't buy a NX day one if most of these were launch titles. I'm either not interested in those franchise, or already fine with the versions I have. An Animal Crossing game as an launch title would be cool, though. Always wanted to play those games.
That list isn't much different to what's on the wii u already so it wouldn't entice me to upgrade. Now a new metroid, kid icarus, battalion wars or f zero in the first year and you'd have at least one sale Nintendo.
Worst list ever.
ALL of this was released on Wii U and nobody bought it.
Nintendo need to think long and hard about what games will draw what numbers.
Pokemon is good bet. Everything else on that list does not pull big numbers and new crowds.
I would be very disappointed in Nintendo if they decided to name a Splatoon follow-up "Spla2oon."
Very disappointed indeed.
Nevertheless, NX is almost guaranteed to get better launch sales than the U consider it appears to be launching alongside BOTW.
Ideal for launch selling NX's
the next Call of duty
a new world of warcraft
a new pokemon
the next clash game
what I would like to see
NX (Advance) Wars
Ouenden 3 / Elite Beat Agents 2
Netflix 4K and youtube 4K
Fire Emblem Definive edition
Knights of the old republic 3 or online
A new bioware D&D game
players for all the main tv stations
I'd like to see Bayo 3 or the Jeanne spin off Kamiya once mentioned, and the succesor to Xenoblade Chronicles X. That one has just too many loose ends and I'm in the mood for another time sinking adventure.
F-Zero, Metroid, Bayonetta 3, Super Mario Galaxy 3 and... a New IP that becomes successful like Splatoon!
They launch all this in the first year they'll have very little left for later!
I think Mario Kart especially need to be held back. Once that's out, any other racing franchise will struggle on the system, first or third party. Launch with F-Zero (like the WiiU was planned too), follow up with an Excite game by that time everyone will be clamouring for a new Mario Kart and that's where you get you resurgence in hardware sales without compromising sales of the other software.
Im curious as to how its going to appeal to casuals. Not that this possible list is bad, but 7 of the 10 games here were on the wii u and it had little mass market appeal.
But almost all of these are just updated games that came out on the Wii u. While I like all these games I would be a lot more excited to play games from franchises that we have seen in the last few years such as f zero, metroid and full 3d Mario
Yes. Please, Sega. More Golden Ass.
Lol @ the Smash Bros. picture.
While everybody else is punching, kicking and fighting, what is Villager doing? Why, he's at peace...just casually watering a flower...with not a care in the world...
That's some serious hilarity right there.
@PleaseUnderstan Vectorman was a cool game. Or how about we get a proper sequel in the Panzer Dragoon series.
I hope at some point in the NX's life cycle, we get a Pokemon Snap sequel
a chibi sized Samus/Metroid game
Another clone article about NX?
I want a Metroid game & a 3d Mario game at launch. I can wait for the other franchises later down the lifespan of the NX.
Imagine a Splatoon game, but with veichles. That'd be pretty fun.
A new Nintendo console without a fully fledged, preferably 3D, new Mario game would be very bad. You need software to sell a console and no game does that better than a unique Mario platformer.
They should also continue with Mario Maker and continue to build the community & service for both Wii U & NX to share but it shouldn't be the main Mario game.
Metroid, Pikmin 4, Mario 3D to start, then Spla2oon, F-Zero, Fire Emblem plus a properly good RPG a year later would be perfect.
Sounds like a pretty good launch line up add in afew 3rd parties aswell then it's looking very good.
@HeroOfTime32 Me too, I'm really hoping there's going to be a brand new 3D Mario platformer at launch.
My other choices would be Metriod Prime 4, F-Zero and a new Splatoon. Would say Legend of Zelda but that's coming to Wii U anyway so I'm not counting it.
@Yasume sounds to me like you shouldn't even be on this website. Maybe make a 3d Mario life website.
A solid list overall, but I think there's definitely room for some small changes in strategy.
Right off the bat, I'd like to question Spla2oon as a launch year game. Don't get me wrong, I've loved Splatoon since I started playing it in September, but I think that's one of the most obvious problems: it was released not that long ago. A release of Holiday 2017, presumably, would be a fairly quick turnaround for a new installment and may set a bad precedent for the franchise. If there's one thing I don't want the IP to become, it's stale, so it is of the utmost importance that the devs have time to create a true evolution of the first game. I think Spla2oon would best be served by a solid year 2 release to give it space from the original and a long lifespan on the NX.
In Spla2oon's place, I think Nintendo should take the opportunity to revive a dormant racing/sports IP. Whether that be Wave Race, 1080, F-Zero, Pilotwings, or anything else I may be forgetting, it could bring something arcadey and classic with the trimmings of modern game, like online support and more content. It may not be as high-profile as Splatoon, but it would still allow the launch to have a Not-Quite-Traditional-Nintendo-Game to draw in a wider audience to the system. A very practical, if unexpected, replacement.
I would also like to voice my concerns for Super Mario Maker NX over a true 3D Mario game. While I would say that I can understand this more than Spla2oon for the reasons laid out in the article, I still believe that a 3D Mario game, especially if it creates a proper sense of world like in 64, Galaxy 1, and especially Sunshine, would give a more FULFILLING experience than a 2D adventure. Something fulfilling like that will create excitement for the system. There's a case to be made the Super Mario Maker NX would create a lot of hype too, but considering that the first SMM is still pretty young, I don't know if it would be considerably more anticipated than a 3D Mario. Again though, the idea of a platform for all 2D Mario games is enticing, and I can see a scenario where a SMMNX launch would work. If someone without an NX wants to play a 3D Mario releasing in 2018, then heard about a year's worth of 2D Mario they could also play on the system, it deeply increases the chances that they're gonna buy an NX. Still, I think they have room with this one.
As for the rest, all I can really say is that I'm not sure if I'm buying the whole thing about a Game Freak Pokemon at launch. They must have their hands full with Sun and Moon, but I guess it's not impossible for a third game like a supposed "Sky" or something. I would talk about my slight concerns with a Sm4sh port, but honestly, that's starting to feel inevitable at this point. If one of these was to not happen, I would suspect that whatever Retro Studios is working on would replace it.
Those are my thoughts, sorry that it turned out way longer than I intended.
Pretty good list! I'm especially hoping for Animal Crossing to be a launch title. That art academy picture just makes me want a sequel to Sunshine even more...
Sunshine 2 = Day one buy.
I think a collection of the Mario Kart arcade games would be a good filler before a new MK title on the NX... or a koopaling spin off
If I had control, here is what I would be pushing for with the 1st year of NX......assuming the rumors are accurate.
Mario Maker NX - launch game pack in. Probably digital version
Pokemon Sun, Moon, & Stars - launch game
Zelda BOTW - April
3rd Party Exclusive - May
Animal Crossings - June
Mario Golf - Aug
SNES Mini - Sept
Luigi's Mansion - Oct
3D Mario NX - Early Nov
Metroid Prime 4 - late Nov
Mario Party HD (combo of all non HD MP's) - Dec
Fire Emblem - Feb
MK9 - May
NX will absolutely launch with a 3D Mario I'm certain of it, the team have been quietly working on something for a long time now I think it's quite clear.
My personal picks, first party only:
1. New Metroid
2. Breath of the Wild
3. F-Zero NX
4. Xeno- RPG, more similar to Xenoblade than X
5. Wario Land 5
6. A 3D Donkey Kong title
7. A big budget Golden Sun game
8. Kid Icarus follow-up
9. A new Advance Wars title
10. Fire Emblem: Less Anime Edition
It might have something to do with the fact that most of the games listed in the feature are more or less a given or already available on Wii U, but I can't get excited about those. Pikmin 4 would be great, but I could do without the rest for a while.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Woah there, it would be pretty dull to have ten different Metroid titles in one year. ;D
@Morph "NX will absolutely launch with a 3D Mario I'm certain of it, the team have been quietly working on something for a long time now I think it's quite clear."
Don't be so sure about it:
"We're always challenging ourselves to create something new, so hopefully you'll see a new kind of Mario in about a year or two" Shigeru Miyamoto said in an interview with IGN.
"Maybe next E3 we'll be able to share something."
Metroid Prime 4
Metroid Prime Pinball 2: Echoes
Metroid Prime Hunters 2
Metroid Prime: Space Pirate Force
That's a solid list of five right there, with completely different focus. Five more and we pitch the idea to Nintendo.
@Dr_Corndog Calling games apps really and last time i checked BOTW was killer.
Woah, if that's their initial lineup, you can count on Nintendo riding off into the Sunset for good. Those games have done nothing for Wii U business. Now, if they have Eternal Darkness, a Ken Griffey Jr. Slugfest type of game, or something like Bravely Default , I'm in. They need diversity.
If NX really launched on March 2017, i will take a look first. Probably wait for 3 years first before i decide to buy (Because usually after 3 years i have quite enough game titles to choose, the possibility bundles to choose and any crucial information about NX ). While waiting for best NX bundle, i can start to buy the game first before i buy the machine. Games can be very difficult to find if i missed for very long time.
games i wanna see on nx is bayonetta 3,metroid prime 4/possibly wat retro is working on,Splatoon 2,X sequel which we all know monolith is working on as we speak since the first one left a huge cliffhanger at the end
Upgrade miis to something impressive then launch a new generation of Nintendo Sports, a la Wii Sports. Given how many copies of Wii Sports sold, the very minor upgrade for Wii U was almost pointless. And Sports Resort has had no HD love whatsoever. Use better miis and also allow the use of a Nintendo roster, like in Smash and Mario Kart.
I hope we get an FPS Luigi's Mansion
All the titles you listed are family friendly titles and sequels or spinoffs. For other sequels, what about Last Story, Metroid, or Bayonetta?
@samuelvictor Agreed. Mario Kart 8 plays like a lucky draw - whether you win depends a lot on what items you draw. I want a game with more skills involved.
For me, I think the kind of games to suit the launch depend somewhat on the type of console NX turns out to be. Powerful handheld with home dock that adds processing power is what I'm hoping for. If it's something like that, then having the entire cartridge 3DS library accessible via an emulator on NX would be great. Probably not going to happen though. Otherwise, not a bad list of first party games, but I'd rather see Fifa etc, not because I want to play them, but because it would boost the install base and hopefully lead to more third party support overall.
If possible they should rerelease MK 8, SSB, and Splatoon and also somehow make the online modes compatible the Wii U versions. They probably wouldn't sell many copies to those of us who already have the games on the Wii U, but then theres only 10 million of us. If at least some of the 100 million people who never upgraded from the Wii can be convinced to buy this new system by a great lineup of games that they never got to play, that Nintendo at least in theory doesn't have to put a lot of resources into to make them available at launch, that if they are backward compatible online would actually give new life to the games we already own by bringing fresh blood online, then despite the fact that some of us might be alright sticking with our Wii U a little while longer, I think on balance it would be a plus.
Again, there are 10 million Wii U owners compared to 110 million Wii sales. They need to forget about us and work on getting those 100 million people back. Admittedly, its probably unlikely they reach those heights again but theres at least 10 million people out there who had a Gamecube and not a Wii U. Three of them are my own brothers. One of them plays SSB every time he comes over. If they could get some of those people back on board it would be worth the risk.
Actually half way through writing all this I realized they could accomplish almost the same thing by giviing those of us who bought the Wii U versions the NX ones for free with even less effort on their part. And it would be a great gift for being their most loyal customers and an incentive to buy their new system. Though with my idea there's a guaranteed built in online player base which is worth a lot with these online centric games.
Either way make them cheap. Heck call them Online Essentials and put them in a three pack for $60. Use them as loss leaders. Go crazy. Free Mario Kart 8 NX with every system! I wouldn't be bitter. I'd be happy to have more people to play online against.
As much as I feel special and unique for having Zelda Four Swords 20th Anniversary. I'd be happier if it was made available again so my kid could get it and I had someone to actually play it with. Same with these Wii U games.
@Sakura im certain nx will have a home console i doubt its a full blown handheld
I would love another NintendoLand type game. My family and I still play the Animal Crossing, Mario Chase and Luigi's Mansion games quite regularly. I honestly think if more games had used the gamepad as well as it the Wii U might have caught on better.
I'd like to see Nintendo gather user-created Super Mario Maker levels into an expansive disc-based game. Many, many possibilities.
And Okami 2, with remastered Okami. I know, I know, but I'd like it anyway.
@Chandlero That would be phenomenal! I literally just finished cleaning all my GC hardware and was thinking about that, too.
A true Metroid game would make for an awesome launch surprise. Can't wait for the announcement and preorders to open up. I love it when new consoles come out. Christmas in March!
@roboshort I never understood why LM2 was never a big console release. When I played the first one on GC I thought it was awesome and refreshing. And while I loved LM2 on 3DS, I always wanted to see a console version. Hopefully this is it!!!
Absolutely agree with all of these, though it'd be great to see Metroid in there as well. If at least five of these AREN'T launch titles, I will be hugely surprised.
Edit: *launch year
This is a flawed line-up. If you want gamers back, you need a more adult IP too, Metroid Prime being the most obvious one. You could aldo add an action heavy game like Ikarus Uprising 2.
Maybe get some Bayonetta 3 in there too.
C'mon, Nintendo, use that Eternal Darkness trademark. This is literally the last year you have!
@6ch6ris6 So you can use a 7 as a T? Alright, I look forward to Spla7oon!
SUPER MARIO MAKER NX?
No. WAY, WAY too early for a sequel. The first one was released last fall, it's too soon, and I wouldn't want to see it turn into an EA annually released sports title I'm sure plenty of more features and characters could be added, but still...
Splatoon (Spla2oon? I'd pronounce it Spla-two-oon) deserves a sequel, but maybe not at launch, either.
Smash Bros: Definitive edition... I suppose it'd be worth a purchase, if it included aspects of EVERY OTHER SMASH BROS. Game alive (And of course, Goku hahaha...).
Mario Kart. I'm fine with 8, right now. I could imagine one, in the future, just not at launch. I'd sooner see a new F-Zero.
There hasn't been a decent Mario Party game since 2. I did not enjoy Nintendo land, the only reason to have "Mii" games is to remind people that "Mii's" still exist. I believe NX could avoid using them.
I've never been a fan of Pikmin. The original animal crossing was a good game. I've played New leaf, but I found it boring, and it gave me less of a reason to continue playing it.
I feel I'm repeating myself, again... but I'd rather see a new 2D Metroid game, than another Prime; a game where Samus is getting trained from the Chozo.
"Art academy online". That sounds a lot like a mobile game.
A 3D Mario game could easily sell the NX, probably more than Wii U has right now, on launch day.
A Pokemon game in the vein of Xenoblade or Monster Hunter, could also be an attractive launch point, for the console. I have, and almost everyone else, have wanted it for years! Waiting a couple more wouldn't be a huge disappointment.
I vote for Xenoblade Chronicles in HD. I logged 140 hours on the Wii, I cringed at the lower resolution 3DS port, and I played it on Dolphin + SteamLink and was blown away by how detailed the character models actually were when rendered in higher resolution (just check YouTube). If there's a system that is worth revisiting Wii games in HD, it's NX.
As a sidenote, this is the time for Nintendo to ramp up the HD remasters — starting with a Mario Galaxy 1+2 pack with bonus content. It's time to re-release the Metroid Prime Trilogy that was on the Wii - but this time in HD.
Oh, and a last comment - Dr. Mario should be a release eShop title. But instead of Dr. Luigi, it should we should let the girls be doctors. Peach, Rosalina and Daisy. Time to pass the baton.
I'm hoping the virtual console is better this time around and hopefully we can just transfer our purchased VC games and not be charged to repurchase or transfer them !
Metroid should definitely come out during the holiday season 2017. Bringing it out year two or three ouod be a mistake. In fact they should think about at least two games gor the whole nx lifespan ir maybe even a trilogy.
Zelda and pikmin have been pretty much confirmed although I would like to see pikimin come out for wii u as well.
As a Nintendo fan, it's an interesting article. However I'd argue that 2D needs to be left in the past, at least at the beginning. A launch title should show off what a console can do and give us something new, not that it's a slightly refined version of something we were playing 25 years ago.
@Lylard @NoEasyBuckets I can't be on a Nintendo website, because I don't like certain Nintendo IPs anymore?
I'm a big fan of 3D Mario games, 2D Metroids, Fire Emblem and Ace Attorney, but I should just leave because I don't like the games you like, right?
Classic Nintendo fanboy logic.
idk i thought i should comment the obvious
MK9 or New SMM, and Im in
And no Mario game?
So its all updated versions of old games, and open doors like Zelda Botw (already confirmed as a launch-window game, wich can also just be played on a Wii u).
Where are the surprises like a new 3D Metroid, a 3D Eartbound, etc. That's the stuff I am much more interested about!
I like this list, however I think they need at least one title (preferably two) that targets more mature gamers. Something like Mertroid or a good third party title from a company like Ubisoft or EA.
I really hope that Splatoon (or is it Spla2oon now?) makes it to the NX. And considering how much work Nintendo put into Super Smash Brothers for Wii U and 3DS, I think it deserves being ported (properly) to the NX.
List makes sense...I figure Breath of the Wild, maybe another one or two with third parties thrown in. Then a summer without much, then the rest from September until Christmas. Smash, Splatoon, Mario Maker are probably at the front.
If NX really replaces 3DS, third parties oughtta have some RPG's, too.
@A01 If Smash U and MK8 are easily ported, I don't see why they shouldn't. A lot of people didn't buy a Wii U, so they are missing out on some very good games.
My thoughts exactly. MK8 and SSB definitive editions are an easy way for Nintendo to pad the NX line-up early on and get extra mileage out of the massive investment they made in those two games. It would be a good business decision for Nintendo and for someone that never owned a Wii U they would be two good reasons to buy the NX.
"As one of the slickest and most impressive Wii U games on a technical level"
Err, that title either goes to Mario Kart 8, Mario Party 10 or Mario and Sonic Rio 2016.
Oh, and I'm only in if THIS gal makes it to Smash Bros NX! Pls Nintendo.
@MrBrac The phrase "killer app" has been used for decades, bud.
Knowing Nintendo, other than BotW being a launch title we won't see another major game of them for at least half a year. And that game will be New Super Mario Bros NX.
It's been too long since the last Mario collect-a-thon. I'd rather not have to wait through another basic jump'n'run game.
Easiest launch 'win' for NX, it's compatible with all downloaded 3DS and Wii U games, which would give me an instant 200 plus video game collection.Cart based versions of Wii U 'classics' at launch with all DLC would be fantastic to new adopters, MK8, SSB, SMM, Bayo 2, Lego City, Hyrule warriors just to say a few examples.If they hit the 'reset' switch on VC and downloads this generation, they'll strike a grave blow against their current user base, however 'small' (50 mil 3DS's tho guys, the pie is there).
On A side note, one of the key features for NX should be adding gameplay videos to posts on Miiverse, this feature alone would greatly improve miiverses mass market appeal.
Nintendo simply have to blast its fan's mind with surprising game concept for the beloved licenses that take dust:
(call shigetasoi itoi now!)
(Call Konami now for Snake's return as BigBoss with the fulton balloon as his new Up+B instead of the cypher)
Zelda: BotW at launch will be enough for me the first couple of months. After that I would like to play a new Mario game and a couple of new games from the old franchise like Wave Rave, Pilot Wings or Luigi's Mansion. No remakes for a while please. I'm all for new and exclusive content.
@Metroplex360 I'm watching a video of Xenoblade Chronicles on Dolphin now,it looks fantastic.I seriously loved that game and it would be a joy to play through it again.I just can't get into X the same way sadly.
As for Dr Mario,yep definitely needs to be there at launch,Dr Peach,Daisy,Shy Guy,I couldn't care,as long as it has online classic battles I'll be happy. It was my 2nd most played game on Wii and now Dr Luigi is getting the same treatment.Going to play it now in fact haha
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