Pokémon GO Updates to Make Game "Respectful" of Private Institutions

So....even less Stops then?...-.-

The server side update has also changed the damage of a lot of the moves, most notably the moves used by the commonly considered top tier Pokemon like Vaporeon and Snorlax got their damage reduced, although since it's a nerf to their moves and not their stats, every Pokemon that has those moves technically got nerfed as well.

In general, a lot of the secondary attacks got large damage boosts too.

http://www.serebii.net/pokemongo/moves.shtml

Good move, still will be plenty of places to catch 'mons. Some of them even have profits from that, so...

I swear everyday the news has been reporting problems with Pokemon Go players. Today the story I saw was people requesting Niantic remove a Pokestop from the Sydney War Memorial. I guess it'll probably happen soon, giving this one got removed.

This was an issue to an extent with Ingress, but most players didn't stay at the locations in question trying to farm stuff. I would imagine that next you are going to hear about people trespassing in cemeteries as a lot of them, especially federal ones, have a lot of portal/pokestops in them.

Is it really that hard for people to be aware and respectful of their surroundings? And are so many of us lacking the self control to not play a cell phone game at inappropriate times (such as when you are supposed be working at a white house briefing)?

That's good to hear!

I think it depend on the player themself. If they still disobey the law while playing Pokemon GO, they should take their responsibilities. Just respect yourself and the others. Don't get blinded.

Just goes to show Pokemon Go is an ongoing series of tweaks to better accommodate.

Why exactly shouldn't you be able to play the game at graveyards. The people there won't mind, why should you?

Good on them.

@Timppis

Actually, at least in here Finland, churches have said no problem playing in graveyards as long as you do it respectfully (not jumping over gravestones and such). Also here churches have given players a chance to charge their phones and offered water/juice to drink since it's been hot few weeks

Of course also noticing if there is some kind of service going on in church/at graveyard that you don't go pokemoning there during it.

See, these places that are complaining should have looked at this as an opportunity, not a threat. Post up a sign that says "Dear Pokemon Go players, welcome to our [[location]]! We're glad to have you. Please be respectful of this solemn location and the other guests. While you're here, why not stop and [[offer of some minor value]]."

Our church did something like that and it was great. It's not like playing Pokemon Go is any more disrespectful in Arlington National Cemetery than taking out your phone and using it for other purposes.

I had high hopes for all the Catchems Corners here. An old name for a tollgate on a turnpike road, a fee was payable and travellers who tried to sneak past fell foul of the gatekeeper who would try to catch 'em. Not seen a single poke at the local one yet.

Gotta disrespect'em all!

@Timppis Graveyards are for the people still alive to go and remember and cope with their loss and now I guess deal with roving bands of callous myopic people that don't observe or respect the people around them.

This is a good development and they did, indeed, fix the server problems for us at least. Much more fun now.

Can't wait to see what additional features get added once a process for improving integration with the world over time is established.

This kind of explosion of popularity is very hard to predict and they've done a respectable job. The biggest flaw was not having someone in place and prepared to communicate in a transparent way from day one in case it did exactly what it did.

@PtM pokestops give items and have nothing to do with catching Pokemon. Graveyards could still be happy hunting grounds without pokestops.

@aaronsullivan But Legend of Zelda series has taught me that a graveyard is a fun place to be. I'm so torn!

@Megumi_Sagano So you're saying you WANT to visit inappropriate Pokéstops...

Get off my lawn!

@onex also taught me pushing gravestones could lead to prizes or ghosts. Clearly if I want gastlys I need to start pushing gravestones around.

Such entitlement. "It's my game and I should do whatever I want." Their property, their rules.

You know what's the saddest thing of all? Is that these signs have to be put out in the first place. I mean surely people should know better not to trespass to begin with.

@Timppis It is not the fact that people are playing there, it is the fact that they are disregarding rules and behaving inappropriately for the situation. The issue with graveyards will most likely people playing after sunset when most graveyards are closed and off limits to the public (restrictions to prevent things such as grave robbing).

Very good development. I am happy that they are going to start implementing this sort of thing.

I've seen two road side memorials turned into pokestops. Always thought that was in poor taste.

@Vincent294 Well tell me this. Why do you need graveyards? For people to mourn and remember their loved ones? To defend a system where man invented sin and grace are delivered according to political decisions made hundreds of years ago?

Why do you need a stone slab and walls to remember anyone?

@aaronsullivan Why do you need a stone slab and walls to remember anyone?

Why do you need a place to bury people? It is a waste of city space as well as money and reason.

@Darknyht Inappropriately to whom? To other people? To dead? Dead don't mind. Then how about I take offense with people lighting candles on graveyards. Now THAT's offensive, since I know a bloke who died on a fire.

I hope this doesn't affect the local civil war monuments. Right now they're loaded with stops, and are about the only thing for hundreds of miles that allows me to play this game without spending hundreds on Pokeballs.

@TeeJay ...I just want more stops....there's nothing inappropriate over here anyways.

@Megumi_Sagano Well their update is to help remove only the inappropriate ones, is all I'm sayin.

@Timppus You are absolutely unbelievable. Literally unbelievable. Meaning I don't believe you. You must be trolling. Nobody can be this unabashadly disrepectful.

@PtM A society that somehow builds huge areas for dead people instead for those that still live and will live later on?

@TeeJay I really do fail to see the point in saying cemeteries are in any way a great thing or somehow holy sites or anything resembling to that.

I fail to see the people's need to remember anyone in their lives with a stone and a place to put their bodies. I do not understand the need to use literally millions of acres of best land in cities to occupy with dead people.

There are better ways to do things.

@TeeJay

Oh there are unfortunately.

I mean what else is trolling but some insensitive human being going out of their way to be horrendously rude and disrespectful just to get a rise out of people?

shakes head

There's been a few updates on Android, fixing the Pokedex problem, removing the three step shadows, allowing you to edit avatar again, a few asthetic changes and seeing your full XP gained to date as well.

@Timppis Perhaps before you go tearing all the fences down, maybe you should stop and wonder why they were built in the first place. Just about every society I can think of believes there is value in honoring their ancestors and the dead, to give tribute to those that came before us. There just might be some significance to that.

And before you throw out the idea of absolute truth, just stop and think how shaky a society becomes without a firm moral foundation. I believe that Communist Russia is a good example of what happens when society decides mankind and the state is the foundational basis for all moral authority. Because whether you like it or not the default setting for humanity is selfishness (studies have proven all the way to six moths old babies deceive and lie, and they believe earlier but cannot prove it), and a society built upon that will not last.

Apparently they removed the footprint tracking entirely. I sincerely hope that's a temporary thing until they can get the feature working as it was intended, otherwise they can expect the userbase to drop big time.

They removed almost all the stops even within driving range of me. The game is dead, time to move on.

@Darknyht There might be a great deal to understanding from the past, honoring those who are no longer with us and even some sort of reverence to great people of the history.

However using millions and millions of hectars city land to bury people in their own individual little spots is still nonsense. If you want to respect your own family, do it in the confines of your own home. You want to build a shrine to someone? By all means, within your lands and your money. You want to show remembrance to a great scientist or war hero? Build a monument in a park, on a street corner, in front of a military office, on the site of their greatest achievement, not on a spot where their corpse now lies.

I have nothing against honoring someone or remembering loved ones. I do have massive issue on how certain religious habits have conquered sanity withing city planning, in our lives and in our society.

@Timppis And if you were a city planner, how would you solve the problem of disposing dead bodies, hm?

@KTT Cremation is easily the most cost-efficient way of disposing dead bodies. Then the ashes (or bonematerial to be precise) can be used to whatever the descendants or other caretakers of them wishes to do. They can bury it on their own backyard or scatter them to the sea or donate them to create a road out of or even sculpt it into an industrialized diamond if they so wish.

Having a 6-10 pounds of bonesand to store is quite a lot less than what is the custom now.

@Timppis Yes, I was hoping you would pick cremation.
While surely more efficient and removes risk of biological contamination caused by the decay, you should remember that a) regulations regarding the air and mercury pollution should be introduced first (people will abuse the system without the rules), b) there is not enough scientific research to prove that living near a crematory influences health (and people don't like living near something that is uncertain).
Don't forget that various cities in various countries were built before the modern cremation was the thing, and many began as small villages - meaning that most of the cementeries are historicaly placed areas anyway with no option to enlarge, and some of them have high historical values now.

Lastly, there may be dead people burried in those little spots, but those dead people have alive relatives who still mourn their deceased family/friends. If not for the dead, then give some respect to those who are alive. This is why you shouldn't play at graveyards.

@KTT

If talking about environment and the factors regarding that then graveyards are still worse than cremation due to their location and the greenhouse gases emitted during trips back and forth to that location by the mourners during the years after death.

When it comes to mercury in dental fillings we can hopefully realise that it's 2016 and amalgam is not the only option as we have better solutions in most cases.

Having a historical value is a thing, yes. However most graveyards that are large and in use are not those of significant historical value and instead are constantly growing on large modern cities.

Yes there are people that are alive and want to mourn. We should give them that chance. But that chance should be given in some other form and fashion than building massive landconsuming stoneslab rows one after another.

And even if you hoped that I would pick cremation it still is the best alternative. Maybe a solar powered version would be even better, but atm. it's the best we've got.

@Timppis I know that cremation is one of the better solutions. But better solutions is not always possible because it's the money (look at mutilated chikens or how they create ham) and sometimes deep regional-social traditions (cases of FGM, non educated populations or any extremists; also both: animal poaching) what drives the world and human actions the most.
As long as the two points are not fulfilled (safety and regulations), you will have hesitant or negative reactions from people that were raisen in European culture (not to mention people in central Europe, who often associate crematory with holocaust).

If there are people who want have their relatives buried in a common "death ground", then let them do it - death is harsh and those are their relatives and their memories and the cementery is already there. If you want to change that, you must educate the people and wait for the changes to happen.
Either way, all growing cementeries I've seen were in places which were either forgotten by god (it will take like 200 years to make it a city) or where you cannot build anything anyway due to laws or unique envirorement. Here where I live, cementeries, saved portions of older forests and they are now enclosed by concrete. And while in new fastgrowing settlements crematories sounds like a better alternative, old towns and cities will use their cementeries simply because they had had the space allocated years ago, sometimes even before the modern transport was common. Remember that city infrastructure cannot be changed, unless you want to destroy some households, roads and historical places; city layout evolved and was fluent during the years and what you got now is what it is. With the cementeries or not. Most of the time it's not waste of a space. No one even thought the space will be needed back then.

So they get visitors, who could potentially donate to support the upkeep of the site, and they want Niantic to remove themselves from the game. That makes perfect sense, sarcastically speaking. If I owned a business that drew in players, because of a rare Pokemon, I would charge them 5 bucks to enter. That's what these sites should do. Although, I see how it could be considered disrespectful towards the victims, but my point is still valid.

@penamiguel92 Some places aren't meant to make profit, such as the Halocaust museum or graveyards (or at least they shouldn't).

They are meant to teach about the past and respect those who died. To have that meaning be relegated to a place to get items in a video game- it makes sense they'd want to change that.

@Mega_Yarn_Poochy
"Although, I see how it could be considered disrespectful towards the victims" In other words, I know that...

@KTT If people want to bury their loved ones in a burial ground by all means. It just shouldn't be statekept and state mandated place. On your own grounds on your own spot that you will pay and maintain for go for it.

I see most of your points and I understand them. They are good points and ones that can be respected. Unfortunately I don't agree with them and thus we might just have to agree to disagree, since we are clearly worlds apart in this matter when it comes to the actual land and the cemeteries built on it.

@Timppis I understand. It was a good discussion.