Nintendo appears to be removing user-generated Super Mario Maker levels without warning or reason, and is refusing to comment on the reasons why.
Kotaku has reported on various posts online from users who have had their beloved creations taken down despite the absence of any objectionable content. The site has also tried to get in touch with Nintendo for clarification, but hasn't had any response so far.
The latest victim is BakeToRise, or rather his daughter. She spent three hours lovingly constructing her level - called Maria Cake Yoshi - and duly received a notification that a fellow player had beaten the stage and given it a recommendation by awarding it a star. However, upon returning to the level less than an hour later, BakeToRise and his offspring found it had been removed.
Understandably, BakeToRise had to then deal with an especially upset daughter, and posted his frustrations online:
I know this has been post about before, but I am so angry.
The level my daughter spent the better part of three hours making, named "Maria Cake Yoshi" got deleted after being uploaded for less than 1 hour.
We were playing 100 Mario Challenge and afterwords got a notification that somebody played and starred her level. We went to go checkout the stats and the level was deleted. No reason as to why it was deleted.
As far as I know from reading the reddit posts on the subject, nothing in the level would flag it for getting deleted.
I wish Nintendo would give a description of what causes levels to get deleted and tell you why if your level is deleted.
Here's the course in question:
And here's the proof that the level was played and "starred" by another player:
This isn't an isolated case, either - as Kotau reports, several other players have had their stages deleted without any justification from Nintendo. Those levels are still on your Wii U so can still be played locally, but you can't reshare them - a deleted stage can't be re-uploaded, and has to be remade from scratch. When you consider that Super Mario Maker is very much about sharing your creations, it's easy to see why some level designers might think twice about pouring their heart and soul into a stage when there's a very real risk it could be removed by Nintendo.
Here's Nintendo's official policy on removing Super Mario Maker stages:
Notice regarding course uploads
Please be aware that after a fixed period of time, courses with low popularity will be automatically deleted from the server.Nintendo reserves the right to use uploaded courses and related data, either as-is or with alterations, for either commercial or noncommercial purposes without compensation to the uploader.
Nintendo has also patched the game to remove stages which "beg" for approval - a recent update meant that players could no longer use the words "Like", "Yeah!" or the "star" symbol in their course names.
One player - MarioMan847 - went as far as to call Nintendo on the phone, and the representative apparently went through his account and could find no levels which would normally be flagged for removal:
He looked it over and said that my account doesn't have any activities in violation and is clean. I told him the course ID and the name of the level (Cannonball Blitz 2) and he said that the name and the level screenshot are completely fine, and even encouraged me to remake the level and upload it again if I wished. So yeah, I got nothing. Probably the only ones that really know are the ones that came up with the algorithms at Nintendo of Japan.
Have you had any of your levels deleted without reason? Why do you think Nintendo is taking this action? Let us know by posting a comment below.
[source kotaku.com]
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I'm wondering how many millions of levels their servers can save. How many have been made at this point?
All 10 of my levels are still there, I just checked yesterday. None of them are super popular, but they all have like minimum 5 stars. All of them have normal titles for names.
The level in question in that video was deleted because to continue progress, you have to guess where the pipe is to continue moving forward in the level. Nintendo doesn't want you making levels where people have to try and figure out if they should go left, right, up or down blindly to find the exit/pipe/key/whatever.
Do I know this for sure? No. But multiple people who I've seen complain about levels being deleted have stated the levels that are gone are either super hard, had a garbage grammar title, or as the article pointed out, had one of the "bad" words.
I'm cool with these kind of levels going away. Stop making us guess where to go next.
This is sad really. I only had one stage get deleted that exploited the "walk on spikes" glitch. I need to really go back into Mario Maker some more...
@XCWarrior "super-hard" levels are removed? I know it is supposed to be for the entire family but it is a plateformes game, everyone should be able to enjoy it at his "level". Or it excludes people.
Huh, I wonder why this guy's daughter's level was deleted. It didn't seem to be offensive at all, and it's design was pretty good for a little kid. I've seen and played A LOT worse in Super Mario Maker.
My best guess is space, as stupid as it may sound.
I dont think that Nintendo, other than maybe a few algorythms, checks each and every stages and gets rid of them, when they deem them offensive.
That would require and entire country of Mario experts.
So yeah, completion rate, popularity, age, deaths.
Seeing how much trash is uploaded, occasional cleaning is pretty much mandatory some times.
But a bit of transparency would be nice. So would be a system of comunity feedback. Deleted by downvotes or something.
Basically as always, comunication is lacking and causing bad PR. This is turning into Nintendos signature move.
There's a difference between a level being difficult and a level being cheap.
The problem I see is levels getting deleted 1hour after creation, they think everyone is a youtuber who get 5000 plays in less than 1hour on their level or what ?
There has got to be a better way. It would at least be nice for whatver Japanese guys came out with this to give us some sort of explaination. This was a young girl's level that was trying to have fun and share her level to the world. I see nothing offensive here. Are they that darn proud that they can't even fix this or give us a good excuse?
Maybe there's some meaning on Maria "caking" Yoshi? Or the translation on another language?
I've had this happen to more than one of my levels and I think it's absolutely terrible on Nintendo's part. Levels should not be removed just because they were bad or unpopular; only if they're offensive or exploiting glitches Nintendo doesn't want people using. The idea that because a level didn't get 10 stars and 100 players is absurd, most people simply can't get that kind of an audience. None of the levels I've seen deleted (mine or otherwise) deserved this, and Nintendo's lack of transparency or any sort of comment seems appalling to me. What if you made a level for a friend, not intended for most people to play? Once the level has been taken down there seems to be no way of re-uploading it save remaking the whole thing. It seems like a game with the tagline "Anyone can play it" shouldn't be deleting perfectly good levels like this, especially without any sort of explanation for it.
The level's name is Mario Cake Yoshi in the second video. It only seems to have been misspelled Maria in the Reddit post.
The lack of warnings and explanations is something Nintendo really oughta work on. If one of the levels I worked on the hardest, like, say, Bowser's Aerial War Zone, were to be deleted, I would at least want to know why.
https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/courses/26C8-0000-017E-0F1F
Here's what it looks like in case you don't feel like clicking on the link.
I have had two deleted...same on both times...nothin special about it..kinda hard but nothing stupid hard. I named it after a friend...HMS McCord...it's been deleted twice and I don't know why
There are a lot of garbage levels out there, but the worst are definitely the ones that are hard for all of the wrong reasons.
when you only release one game every few months, you have to find ways to keep people busy. Micro-managing how one can have fun could be one of those ways...
My brother worked hard on a level called Bullet Friend. It was a level where a bullet it shot at the beginning and you have to use it to jump over a pit halfway through the level.
After it was uploaded, it was never seen again....on the servers.
I could only guess that's because it had the world "bullet" in it.
Well, that got removed VERY quick?! And to think it already got a star, I really don't get why they kicked it off the server so soon. One of my levels is also removed, but that was after a few weeks. And I cannot upload it again, I should create it from scratch again I guess.
can't you just upload it again
People don't understand that there's a limit to how much the servers can hold. While I do understand that there has to be a reason why they are gone, its the level creators themselves who are to be blamed for making either controversy content within the levels and for making the levels extremely difficult.
But I don't understand it, aren't the levels saved in the hard drive or something rather than a direct server? If so, then I don't see the problem why this really needs to be fixed.
I should really play my copy of Super Mario Maker some time...
Anyway, isnt there a way to save a level onto the system's storage itself? If not, then that's an oversight Nintendo should've been aware of.
@AlexSora89 Plugging your level. Classy.
@BertoFlyingFox Um...all levels are saved in your game like any creation made in any game. The problem is with the ones people are uploading online.
You really should open up your copy some time, lol.
@Einherjar Atleast its not anywhere as horrible as Youtube.
What's the big deal anyway? Its not like Nintendo will be able to fix the issue and even then, it would just make those levels there and if its nasty, people will complain to Nintendo that such levels should be removed.
The obvious answer would be they don't have room on their server, and they are deleting them quietly, to try and clear some space.
Seems underhanded, but they are providing a free online service.
I see both sides of the argument, but would definitely agree with people playing it more so.
Why are, and why should levels be deleted ?
I had one level deleted yesterday and it really ticked me off. I was planning on uploading another level but decided against it, as it might be deleted too.
I recreated final challenges from Harry Potter first movie in Mario Maker (three headed dog, man eating plant, flying keys etc) and it got deleted after a week or so with no explanation
I've had two of my levels deleted. The first one had some stars and a lot of plays which led to me to believe someone had gotten frustrated enough to report it. It got deleted in November 2015.
The second one was also really hard, no one was able to beat it and no one gave it a star either. It got deleted only a couple of months after I had uploaded it and it was probably hit by Nintendo's axe dedicated for unpopular levels. It still sucks.
Nintendo's heavy handed online policies are brutal. They really need to hire a consulting group to explain how the internet in 2016 works. The middle age conservative Japanese businessmen calling the shots obviously have zero clue.
I've uploaded one level and its still there. Yay for me 😊
@Detective_TeeJay
Yes... and no. I haven't plugged my levels in quite a while, but that was an example of levels that took me a long time to make. I have uploaded levels that took less effort... and ones that took more. Besides, I could have linked to more levels if I only wanted to plug my creations. Duh.
I understand they need to delete levels, but they should delete unpopular levels from users that have been inactive for a certain period of time (a month or so) delete the levels from people who probably are never going to play the game again, not active users who obviously are keeping the game alive.
Yes, guys, Nintendo delete levels to save space... if they're unpopular and a few months old. They wouldn't delete hours-old levels for space. That's ridiculous.
This has happened to me as well. I had a level deleted less than 12 hours after uploading and I can't reupload it. Nothing offensive about it, I assure you, and it got at least one star. I emailed Nintendo of Europe and they said they'd investigate, but they never got back to me.
It's because Miyamoto is playing them and doesn't think they're fun so he thinks no one else will either
My hypothesis; there's a bug in the "begging for stars" detector that occasionally counts GETTING a star as begging.
A similar thing happened when Smash 4 was released when players were getting banned for using Peach's turnips on For Glory, which the game's servers erroneously detected as hacking in items.
There is probably only so many Levels that the Nintendo Servers can hold, so I can understand unpopular courses being removed after so long, but to remove it in less an hour, and with no warning is just ridiculous and unfair.
After my second deletion, I just stopped playing altogether. Plus, there's no official statement as to why! Soooo... gonna play my PS3 now until Ninty gets their @#!$ straight!
That's ridiculous.
@AlexSora89 subtle self-promotion.
my levels that were deleted were the ones with the lowest playthroughs... the non explanation ones are probably more due to inactivity. You can still easily re-upload them with the click of a button. Though i still have yet to experience one to be removed after an hour. If it was removed and not able to be uploaded again, it probably broke the rules... though the one that is in the video, not sure.
@ikki5 Apparently, if your level is deleted for lack of popularity you can reupload it, but if it's deleted for any other reason you can't. Nintendo offer no explanation either way.
@Zyrac yeah, not sure. I've had two levels removed and no trouble re-uploading them. Unless there was some new policy since I re-uploaded mine since it was a few months ago since it happened. I should probably check to see if there has been new deletions. Part of me wonders if this is more a scheduled thing for the system to scan that fit a certain thing and then removes them and this one got unlucky. If that is the case then it does need to be adjusted.
I've had a few levels deleted, and cannot be reuploaded. I don't upload levels as much anymore.
This is YouTube all over again...
Haha find a little girl who's the victim of something. Correct approach. Never fails.
If in doubt, go with a little boy. If that doesn't work, try a teenage girl. If that doesn't work, they probably don't care. But try an adult woman just in case. Never ever use a teenage boy though. That makes people just do things worse.
Floating pipes, ugh! I think the design in that course is bad, and a father should give his daughter a hand to make it look nicer, and give her general design tips. Don't let your kids upload everything, watch over it, and help make it better.
Two of my levels were deleted. They were almost identical to two of my older levels that remain available, but with additional checkpoints. In my case, it was probably due to lack of popularity since I didn't promote the updated versions with checkpoints here.
Anyway, Nintendo shouldn't be removing levels unless they are clearly inappropriate. If more people bought this game than expected, then Nintendo should be trying to increase their server capacity. Deleting an innocent level within an hour shouldn't be happening.
One of mine was deleted suddenly as well but I was unaware that they could be removed due to unpopularity. This one was made by a friend and was ridiculously hard so that makes sense to me I guess.
I only had 1 level deleted and it was a Gundam Wing style level. I mostly make anime style levels like attack on titan, One punch man. And soon a Prison School style level
@AlanJones84 AGREED. They need to delete every auto level on there.
I think people are overreacting to this.
Yet, I still find myself victimized by Japanese levels where you start out merged into a spring that instantly flings you to your death if you do not jump immediately, and even if you did the unseen Thwump crushes you while you are still taking in everything around you. Or the levels designed to force you to kill yourself over and over in order to learn all the hidden traps designed just to kill you. Or the ones that require you specifically to glitch the game to complete (which is supposed to be a big no-no). Or the levels that are brokenly designed to the point that you have the designer's knowledge to be able to complete it.
Yeah, there are quite a few other things they should be focused on other than a little kid's level.
"Basically as always, communication is lacking and causing bad PR. This is turning into Nintendos signature move."
Nailed it.
@Freeon-Leon
How so? All Nintendo has to do is SAY SOMETHING on the matter. Anything. Well, not just anything but something reasonable.
I have no faith they will.
I lost a course I made
Its not really Nintendo being a dick in some cases as it is partly to free up server space which doesnt surprise me much considering the large amount of garbage levels that end up being uploaded
I had a course removed too, the bizarre thing was, this course was pretty simple to complete. and was an average Mario level with nothing offensive or rule breaking inside.
@KTT There is no need for there to be 5 million levels on the servers, especially if 98% of people don't want to play 3 million of them because they are troll levels. It still leaves us with 2 million levels to choose from.
I don't know the exact numbers, but you get my point. People enjoy making those "which way do I go?" levels, but the number of people who enjoy playing them is very very small.
@Rei There's super hard, and there's super troll
For example, months ago I played a level. After getting 3/4 of the way through the level - there was no power up - you reached a triangle of blocks. You move past it and then reach a tower of like 15+ bosses right before the end and you die. So how do you beat it?
Well I just downloaded the thing eventually because I had to know. Turns out, at the bottom of that triangle was a mushroom. You had to kick a turtle shell which slowly but surely would take this set of triangle boxes out to get that that mushroom.
But that wasn't enough to get by the 15+ monsters before the exit. No. I scanned the level some more. Turns out, right at the beginning, there is a secret door HIGH up, with no hint that its there. So you had to go get that mushroom, SOMEHOW know to back track to the start of the level to this door, which by the way has multiple hammer bros you can't kill so they can potentially nail you and your lone power up.
THEN you had to make a near perfectly timely triple jump (NSMB level) to hit the block below the hidden door. Still big Mario? Now do a perfect triple jump to reach the door.
Gets you to the exit, right? No. You got like a fire flower and have to hope you only take 2 hits while trying to evade those 15+ bosses. Needless to say I wasn't going to try again.
Those kind of levels don't need to exist. If you want to make it that stupid hard, you better at least give SOME hint where the hidden stuff is. Otherwise it's just bad level design.
I had a level called "perfect coin valley" and it got deleted for no reason. Still pissed because I was pretty proud of it
Well that's a douche move on their part
I hope it doesn't turn out that getting rude comments can cause a level to be removed. I've seen some crude drawings and scrawled profanities appear within levels. It would be a real injustice if they couldn't just remove the offensive comment box and yanked the whole level off because someone decided to draw a butt and post it in there. Or even just an insulting put-down of the level, which maybe they feel creates a negative vibe. But since they don't give reasons, who knows?
I've had a few taken down, but I can't seem to crack the popularity barrier so all of my levels are subject to removal due to indifference, I guess.
Wouldn't it be just a case of 'too many uploaded per day'. I'm sure the servers can't take too many be uploaded. The other thing that I can think of is that if certain levels are added, and played through many times in less than an hour, the ones that haven't get bumped off real quickly without the time or date they were published, looked at. It could just be a small mess-up, or just the fact that there are too many levels on it. I know Sony was doing this with the Little Big Planet levels, and eventually fixed it by posting them all by states and regions. Maybe nintendo can fix the problem by doing this, I know my kids would be upset if they did something like this, posted the level and had it deleted upon their satisfaction. As long as it's not deleted from your console, I don't see the big thing, as eventually the servers will go down and everyone will lose them until the next game in the series comes into play. Hopefully nintendo fixes it and makes it better, by being able to bring the greatest made-levels to the next installment.
@Jimsbo It seems to be just like Miiverse. Unless you're japaneese, you never get a bunch of likes. Some people just draw and line and there's 2000 likes, while others draw a really great picture, and they only get a few. The Mario Maker levels seem to be the same way...the great ones from other countries barely get looked at, and others that just have the bare-minimals, get starred like crazy.
No deletions for me so far.
But I imagine you don't need to create from scratch. Just change one block and it should be ok to upload again. Or change name
@XCWarrior Troll levels can be bad, I imagine it. Those levels should be removed as they ain't fun. But I think the kiddo didn't make the level that bad to be removed. Especially after I read others comments here with some ridiculous and sadistic level designs.
@JLPick Every social media is like that actually. Whenever people interact online some kind of "clades" are created. You better be first and quick or create popular stuff or have a popular nationality. Quality work takes time to get popular and sometimes it gets "crushed" by the current internet trends.
Big rang - scroll down if you don't want to read it.
20th century attitudes and philosophies will only further hurt Nintendo and leave them further and further in 3rd place when compared to Sony and Xbox. 4th place if you add in PC master race. I have a soft spot for them so I try and look on the bright side but Nintendo has no f%$king clue what it's doing in regards to social media and social networking. Not....one....f%$king clue. It's like a joke that no one is laughing at. Nintendo hasn't been profitable for years and these types of polices/decisions are why. I can't wait for the 2015 financial meeting, i'm sure it's gonna be a train wreck of bad results and sales. None of their games are up on YouTube compared to Minecraft and other giants. Mario Maker should be the next Minecraft. It has all the possibility but unluckily, it was made by the big N so they are overprotect it. Their YouTube polices are barbaric and their social media presence is minimal. These type of stories build on people and next time around, that dad wont buy the game for his kid because of that experience. Considering droves of 25-40 year olds are mainly XB1 or PS4, Nintendo can't afford to disrespect their family market. This blanket deleting policy is harsh and insensitive to the variety of people who are playing the game. Many people will make many levels and not care if a level goes up or down but, what about the thousands of people like this little girl who make 1-2 levels and have this happen? This final comment may get me flagged....may turn many people against me, heck, might even get me kicked off this website. But games like Mario Maker and the lack of Youtube and other various "old ideas" are what make me wish Nintendo wasn't a Japanese company. The conservatism hurts them because it hurts their fans. Epic rant over.......I guess the parent in my just felt gutted for that little girl and I am seriously questioning Nintendo lately.
@A01
It sucks to have stages deleted but really if your stage has a 0% completion rate and super low in popularity then yeah I understand.
I have some stages that aren't popular and well they aren't extremely fun to play but my more balanced levels are really popular so people do speak with their stars.
Maybe they had a problem with am the singing Yoshi, which would be a shame because I found that wonderful haha
@Deadstanley They aren't going to be able to find all the troll levels, I know what Japan levels you speak of, but if they do stumble upon them, then will be more likely to take them out.
I worked hard on a level where you had to ride buzzy beetle shells through the whole thing. I was thinking of calling it "Riding Me Shell" but I thought that it might get flagged and removed so I called it something else.
I only had one level removed. It was one no one played and I didn't like it that much anyway. It was an easy one I made since a lot of players don't actually seem that good at Mario. The rest of my stages, not even the hard ones have a horrendous clear rate. I can have 30 up but I have been keeping it about 18. Whenever I redesign one of my stages for updates(like the key which is so sweet) I take down the old ones. Some people leave 3 or more versions of the same stage. Such a waste of space.
Luckily, none of my levels have been deleted. I'll admit that quite a few of my levels have low percentage rates, or aren't very popular, but I try to make them all fair. It's too bad that new levels are getting deleted and don't have a chance to earn stars... not fair at all! All levels deserve a chance to earn stars, (unless they're troll levels, imo). Well-made Mario levels take a long time to make, and people should get their level uploaded for at least a little while. Less than a week is definitely too short, let alone a couple of hours!
So far only one of my levels were taken down...no one really liked it anyways.
Mario Maker had the potential of being great, but Nintendo squandered that potential because they're still doing Nintendo things.
Imagine if youtube took down videos that aren't popular.
I think there should be at least an explanantion of why the level was taken down. I had one level taken down, I am not sure why it was but it was tough as nails. I was going to edit it and make it easier but I then noticed that I was not allowed to upload it again, even if I did edit it. In the case of the little girls level if there was something she could have fixed in order to upload it again it wouldn't have been as dissapointing but that isn't even an option. Of course I am sure it is hard to make sure over 6.2 million levels are legit and family friendly but unfortunately some people get their innocent levels banished in the process.
@A01 please, send me a link to the bookmark website. I'll play and star them, to hopefully stop it happening again.
By the way, I'm happy for anyone's bookmarks. Bookmark mine here: https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/stinky-t?type=posted
I love Kotau
Oh it's an error
I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings, but this level was terrible. Like garbage-tier terrible. Way too short, giving you 2 stars which makes you invincible for 99% of the course, the enemy placement is just a bunch of random enemies thrown into one place and don't get me started on the floating pipes. However, there should be more clarity as to why a course has been deleted.
I don't own Super Mario Maker yet, but I watched a couple of videos in the past few days that really got me interested into it. There are some really amazing courses out there and that is coming from someone who couldn't stand a single 2D Mario game since Super Mario World on SNES
Edit: Just wanted to praise the fact that the father is playing this with his child. This game has no age restriction, yet online is a huge part of this game. It's important to make sure that his daughter doesn't accidentally play an inappropriate level. +1 to the dad
I had two of my stages removed with no reason behind it. The 1st one I was able to reupload but didnt cuz I was mad. The 2nd one it was removed but Nintendo wont allow me to reuploaded it. It's dumb cuz the 2nd stage that got removed literary is a super mario world theme of flying around collecting coins! THAT'S IT!!!!! Only 1 baddy in the whole level! Why was it banned?! It's things like this that make me wonder "what's the point of even making stages & uploading them if you are just going to ban them Nintendo???" Whatever man. Hashtag: Annoyed! Hashtag: Get yo crap together Nintendo!
Curious. My 36 are still up. I wonder why they deleted that level, it looked fine. Seeing how much time I've spent on some levels to make them, I hope this isn't a new trend.
So you guys are getting no notifications at all? It's just gone off your list of online levels? For the one I had that got taken down I got a notification that not enough people were playing it. Maybe that's only a first time thing though.
In other news, Fire Emblem Fates Special Edition already sold out. F-k you, Nintendo.
This isn't new... Why would they keep around dead levels? Like I'm sorry but it only makes sense for them to filter out barely played/beaten/starred levels. There's only so much space their servers can handle, probably, and no one will really miss yet another poorly created level.
I had two of my levels deleted on last Wednesday night both in the 11 o'clock hour . Both levels were uploaded one after the other in January. One is the third level in a five part series of expert level courses that all have similar names, content and play stats (around 10 stars each). The other was one of my more popular courses with 200+ plays and I'd guesstimate 40-50 stars. Neither were anywhere close to being my least played or starred courses.
Nether can be reuploaded. Even using a back up file or reworking another level to recreate it, any attempt to reupload them in any way has been deleted so far.
Here's a video I made about my situation...
https://youtu.be/FWX4-FFtcR8
@sWiTcHeRoO The problem isn't with a dead level the level in article was only up for an hour and actually received a star and then was removed without any explanation. It would be one thing if the level was posted for a few weeks and had not received a single star but that was not the case. I can understand the Dad's frustration, I know my son loves Mario Maker and is always very proud of his creations even though by some people's standards they wouldn't be very good (Although I must admit he has more stars than I do). I know one time my son worked on a level for a long time and was super proud of it and when it was time to turn it off he turned off the WiiU and then immediately realized he forgot to save it. He tried to be okay with it but after a few minutes the fact that he worked really hard on something with nothing to show for it made him very upset. The little girl who made this level had good reason to be upset I think.
@hypercoyote
Again, self-promotion was a side-effect of my post, not the whole point. As in, "give us an explanation before deleting our levels, Nintendo". Nothing more than that.
my first level I uploaded within a week of launch is still there. it has a completion rate of less then .5% and I think 6 stars. maybe 500 plays now. none of mine have been deleted, but Id say I have 5-6 stars on each...
@AlexSora89 whatever you say bruh
I had to admit I didn't buy into Super Mario Maker as I hate creating stuff, also one of the main reason I didn't bother with Minecraft and LittleBigPlanet. Sorry for those who got their levels deleted, Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft don't care about things like this which is why I don't want to bother with a lot of their crap.
Please understand......
All my main levels are still there, but I did have a level deleted that was an improved and re-uploaded edit of one of my old levels. Don't know of any reason for that... People will just have to play it without the new checkpoints and reduced difficulty I suppose. It's a pitty because people were clearly finding that level too hard. :/
Got only one of them deleted thus far. Uploaded it no problem (although I deleted it myself in the meantime because it wasn't really popular and didn't hold up to my expectactions).
@Megumi
Same here. It happened with a poorly-designed level of mine called "The Great Haunted Clock Tower", which... sucked. Good riddance if it never received any stars.
Huh... I've had one of my levels Removed a few months ago, but I was able to reuploaded it without any issue. I might have made a couple tweaks to it but I did NOT have to rebuild it from scratch. If that's the case now, then I'd be pretty upset to lose a level!
I dont see any fairness that her creation got deleted within an hour??? How was the person suppose to gain that much popularity in just under an hr. Nintendo isnt accurate in what they're explaining about popularity.....so theres no way it should have been deleted in under an hr.
Lol people get their stuff removed in an hour but one of my levels, which only gets maybe 1-5 plays a day, has been up since launch week. I also have a crap level that gets a hit like once a week and it's like 4 months old. I don't get it. I had another level that did barely worse than that and it's been gone for months.
@Blue_Blur: " Well-made Mario levels take a long time to make, and people should get their level uploaded for at least a little while. Less than a week is definitely too short, let alone a couple of hours!" I agree.
@MajinSoul: "Edit: Just wanted to praise the fact that the father is playing this with his child. This game has no age restriction, yet online is a huge part of this game. It's important to make sure that his daughter doesn't accidentally play an inappropriate level. +1 to the dad" I agree.
@Everyone_Else: I understand there will be glitches occasionally removing levels that don't violate anything, but it seems Nintendo, as of yet, is not fully properly patrolling the uploads. they need to really fix their bots to perform better.
Also of note, I really think Nintendo should make online games, or eventually patch-in a feature to them, that when the servers inevitably go down, that the online components can still function, just no longer on official Nintendo servers, with the obvious warning included that such online interactions are no longer able to be policed by Nintendo. Such a move would totally extend certain titles' lifespans.
Nintendo's lack of transparency has always been troubling. I wonder if it will ever change.
@Deadstanley You are right. The only levels I've seen were "The best of the internet" on gamegrump's channel and GameXplain's weekly stream. The levels I saw there were outstanding - easily better than anything Nintendo put into their recent 2D titles. So yeah, I can't judge how many bad levels are out there since I only saw good levels so far. Oh well, my copy of Super Mario Maker should arrive tomorrow, hopefully I'll not get lost in an overwhelming amount of bad levels
Nintendo removed one of my stages about a month ago and I'm furious about it. I thought it was just a glitch, I didn't realize this was a global (and intentional) issue. I paid 60 dollars for the game and you're telling me they just dont have enough server space to host it? There were no glitches involved in my level, and it honestly wasn't even that difficult. No notification, not online for even 6 months and it gets removed?
Nintendo makes a game that encourages people to be creative, and then they just decide to prevent other people from playing that person's work? Ridiculous. I've been a loyal Nintendo fan since the early 90s, but a lot of their policies and decisions lately me have me questioning if they are really a company I want to continue to support.
Honestly, Nintendo, what the hell? It just seems awful to be sectioning off a major part of the Mario Maker experience to the elite.
@mjc0961 I don't know where on Earth you got that from. it looks nothing like flipping off someone.
I had 14 levels online since release and none is deleted.
All of them have many stars, buti never begged for it.
Last weekend, I had two levels taken off the Mario Maker servers. Like many users, I don't have a lot of stars or plays on my levels. However, my highest-rated level was one of the two which were removed. I had an tricky area of coins spelled out as the word "COINS". Maybe that word is not allowed. That might explain why Tractavus' level called "Perfect Coin Valley" was removed, too. It's kind of a weird theory but you never know with Nintendo...
@AlanJones84 See, the problem is that Nintendo appears to like those kinds of levels, judging by the fact that "automatic" is listed as a level category on the bookmark website.
@Socar Sadly, i dont really follow you.
What exactly does it have to do with YouTube ?
The general idea was: If a certain Up/Downvote balance; Downvote threashold is reached, the level gets the boot. Simple as that.
This would hopefully eliminate the majority of empty or the luck based "death on startup" stages.
This morning i shrugged this article off as merely interesting. Now Im pissed. I logged on tonight and was notified that 4 if my levels were no longer online. And all of them were really popular levels with no other problems....what the crap? Has Nintendo reached a space limitation I wonder?
@TheDavyStar
Just ignore MJC. Half his posts are nonsensical.
That said, this is nothing new to me but it does leave me questioning Nintendo's thought processes. Delete creative levels but leave in the uber popular "Don't Move" levels? Okay sure, whatever.
@3MonthBeef I see what you're saying. Hmmm... I didn't even want to make a just flying stage. Only made it to try to get some stars so I can upload more. The stages I normally make are hard, so I thought making a flying stage would be easier for people.... instead it got banned! XD
So hey, remember I said I emailed Nintendo and they never got back to me? Well now, two months later, I received this amazingly unhelpful reply.
"Thank you for your email regarding Mario Maker and apologies for the delay in our response to you.
In regards to your created level, under certain circumstances we remove uploaded levels. This doesn't necessarily mean you did something wrong. We do this to keep things fresh and entertaining. Please don’t feel punished but rather encouraged to try again with a new level to entertain other players and your friends alike.
We recommend you to check out the Super Mario Maker Bookmark page (https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/) and hope you will keep creating new levels and challenge your own creativity.
We apologise for any disappointment and if you have any further questions or queries, please do not hesitate to contact us."
We don't know who's doing this it could definitely be a hacker
first of all, this post is 2years old, second of all, What are you thinking? People can't hack into nintendo's servers, Do you even know how hard that would be? Plus, nintendo EMAILED the ppl who had their level deleted. A hacker would need to use a fake email and it wasn't fake. At this point, they are gonna remove all courses with like under 15 stars to save money to invest on the switch, they are just money-hungry, so they remove the less-popular levels to save money and keep the more popular ones because, well they make SMM more popular. They started developing the switch in 2013 (Like the very early ideas) So by 2016 they had like a year from release which meant they had the majority of everything done, so they were prob developing games and giving the switch its final finish. So they removed mario maker lvls that aren't popular to save money, since servers are expensive. Same with removing miiverse in like later 2017 to invest on the switch obviously.
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