Men Suspected of Planning Pokémon World Championships Gun Attack Denied Bail

Only 4 months!?

They should be held for well over a year. They were planning to kill hundreds of people.

They deserve the maximum prison sentence they can be given for their plans!

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@Ayronom This is only to detain them until the actual trial. Four months is not their sentence, as they have not yet been convicted of anything yet.

@Ayronom
That's for the judge and/or jury to decide. In this country we give all citizens a trial before sentencing, which also serves as an opportunity to confirm or deny guilt. Assuming they will be found guilty (and they will), they will be sentenced, potentially to a MUCH longer period of time than 4 months or even 1 year. This 4 month period was merely the time until the next court proceeding (perhaps the trial). Not the sentence itself.

Let the system work. They will see judgement, rest assured in that, but court proceedings must play out first. In the meantime, they are behind bars where they cannot hurt the public.

These cowards. You don't brag on something like this before doing it unless you want to be caught and prevented from doing it. Glad they did since it was prevented. Given the attendance and number of children attending this event, pretty sure a jury will show no mercy. Unless they blame GTA5, as always, and not the suspects themselves.

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Let's not be ignorant here. They will have a trial by then. 4 months is not their sentence!!!!

I hope these A-holes get what's coming to them after their trial. What they planned to do was horrible, and I'm glad that they're behind bars.

@Ayronom We can't know for sure. For all we know they were going to "show off" and weren't aware of the gun laws. (rolls eyes) They still deserve a sentence though, 5-8 years. Plain stupidity is likely the cause.

Although perhaps more evidence will come out that proves there was malicious intent. In which case they certainly deserve a life sentence.

@JasonH @TimLatshaw #FlappyFalco I hope they get the final sentence they deserve.

A life sentence might be a bit too harsh, as they didn't harm anyone, even if they had the intent.

Good! When they're on trail, I hope the judge makes like Robin in Smash Bros. and throws the book at both of them. Nothing justifies such intentions and behaviour at a Pokémon Championships, of all places.

Hard to sympathize with them. They had this coming.

@Kobeskillz Oh no that's not what I was refering to

This is getting to be almost a daily routine here. Using social media to make threats, brag, and try to gain their 15 minutes of fame through violence. In a way they got their wish: their names, arrest and intent are all now part of the news cycle. I wish there was a way to curb sorry individuals like this by not giving them the fame they look for, but it is truly news and needs to be reported.

Life sentence! Life sentence!

God, there ugly.

Anyways, I think they deserve a hefty sentence for this, I think judges or whoever need to step up on sentencing, If say like 10 years because this really could have been bad.

@BenAV Yeah, the jarring stupidity of this could cause something much realer than the threats themselves to happen. Anyone stupid enough to do this for the hell of it had it coming. That said, I hope they focus more on teaching them common sense and rationality than they do locking them up for the sake of punishment.

may Arceus have mercy on their souls

@Maggots Screw Arceus. Let Giratina take care of 'em.

@Soren
haha
yeah

Not even Phoenix Wright could make these idiots look innocent...then again, he can't make Capcom look innocent either. LOL

@Ayronom They probably won't get off easy. Not only did they threaten people publicly online, they had the bright idea to take the guns with them and if that wasn't incriminating enough they brought ammo.

If they didn't bring ammo it could have been put as a "bad joke" because while still incredibly stupid they couldn't have done the shooting. But the fact they had guns and a large amount of ammo puts them in a situation where they brought everything they needed to make the online threat a reality. Its about as close as they can get to doing it/showing intent without actually doing it and brings the damning question that is the police catching them is the only thing that prevented it from happening? I doubt it'd be easy for them to explaining they had no intention of carrying out the shooting while also explaining why they choose to bring everything they needed for both of them to carry it out.

I say any lawyer who's crooked enough to defend the likes of these people is just as wicked as the actual criminal. The Boston Bomber, for instance, had a lawyer, and it just baffles me how someone could be so evil that they would back an obviously guilty murderor for the sake of money so he can be released back into society as a dangerous predator.

@Dr_Lugae @Ayronom Bringing the guns with ammo would be about the same as opening fire, but without hitting anyone. Although no one was harmed, everyone there was definitely threatened.

@Not_Soos Well everyone does have the right to representation...the lawyer is just doing a job. Which has to suck when you get a client you detest.

@Ayronom To be clear, this 4 months is NOT their actual sentence. They are being held until a hearing takes place.

Losers!!

@Not_Soos Someone has to do it. It's the law.
@Ryu_Niiyama Makes you wonder if some of these anointed defence attorneys ever purposely screw up so the prosecutors win against a real nasty criminal.... (Guess they'd lose credibility or future clients though)

These guys are the effing WORST! Have fun in prison... They are scum..

@Not_Soos For the record, everyone is entitled to a lawyer regardless of the crime.

Also, they may get several years in prison, but I don't expect life sentences as they did not actually commit the murders.

they diserved to go to Jail :/ they could have made a disaster (weather it's pokemon championship or some where else they where planned) it stupid of them to think that they where going all tough and killing people... boy where they wrong, im happy nothing happen to the people inside there

but yeah, these two are MESS up

Has it ever come out as to what exactly the reasons for this were? The guys were just gonna shoot up all of their compatriots for the hell of it? These dingleberries obviously had some motivation for this and I'd love to know what it was.

I also wonder what kind of detention these two are being held in. Violence against children, even just threatened violence, is not tolerated in United States prisons. You have to realize that more than half of the inmates are in for non-violent, drug related crimes. You know, reasonable dudes who do not tolerate stuff like this.

I can only think of all the scared children that would of been at the Pokemon World Championship if these two would have suceeded in their plan. Why someone would want to harm them is beyond me. It'd make me sick to my stomach, so I'm very relieved to hear they are behind bars. (Until their trial has commenced at least.)

I can hear their lawyer's defense now: "Your Honor, my clients did nothing wrong. They simply had weapons for self-defense. As everyone knows, the winner of these tournaments is often targeted; usually by the loser of the finals. These guns were simply brought in case they were attacked after winning. They even were planning to defend someone else if they won. As you can see, they were not only looking out for themselves, but others too. One could say they were being selfless and heroic. You could even go so far as to say they are pure. There is no doubt in my mind that they were trying to protect people and are innocent beyond doubt. Thank you."

To those talking about a life sentence, that would be very unlikely, as the two of them, no matter what their intent, did not cause any physical or emotional harm to others. They will likely face 5-10 years for an attempted act of domestic terrorism, but nothing more.

@DarthNocturnal Yeah, but a good lawyer who's willing to help would probably make some dumb excuse like mine, just like most lawyers do. @TsunamiSensei True, but hey, one can dream.

I wish the worst for them.

They are gonna catch em all...in jail!!!

S.T.D'S!!!

lol, only four months. What a joke.

^ never read a single comment. @90sRetroGaming

4 Months is the amount of time they have to wait in jail BEFORE the actual trial begins. So whether they are found guilty or innocent after the trial, they at least served some time. Being denied bail pretty much means the evidence is stacked up enough against them that they should not be allowed on the streets while they wait for their trial.
These kids are getting a rude awakening of what real life is really all about.

Lowlifes. I cannot sympathize with people who do crap like this. unfortunately, if there's a will there's a way, and if criminals want to do crime, they will find a way to do it (or at least attemp it) Luckily, these men were caught red handed.

But really? A Pokemon tournament? What tool-bags.

They deserve from 1 to 3 years. Or 1000 hours of community service, IDK! They were going to massacre all these innocent people!! Maybe they didn't do it, but it WAS going to happen!

God, I hope they're both guilty. That kid is awfully young compared to the other. What if that eighteen-year-old had no idea the other was bringing weapons? Even if he was, he's still at that impressionable age. Who really knows what was happening before this?

Something like that would just make me madder at Stumbo, if he wrapped an innocent minor into this jail sentence for no reason.

@hcfwesker Of course I read it. The entire thing. They should have been held without bail for years, simply for being so stupid. Better yet, lock them up and throw away the key.

@DarthNocturnal This guy's already trying to get the charges dismissed, so I'd say he's doing more than the bare mininum. However, while he may have a chance at getting any charges dropped related to the threat, they were caught red-handed with illegal guns, so those charges are going to stick unless someone somehow screwed up on the search procedures.

As for lawyers of the obviously guilty, they usually try to get those clients to just take a plea bargain if they can get one.

Time for a sitcom based on this kind of stuff. I have the perfect name for it. The Nutty things people do in America! This is becoming a regular thing and is downright embarrassing.

I know this seems weird to say on a public website, but I recognize that Kevin Norton guy... I feel like he was a Youtuber of some sort... Nah. Probably not.

Well, they deserve a long sentence. But why would they do this to innocent people from all over the world? It's wrong on so many levels.

If these guys were joking it's going be one expensive and life changing experience.

Those bastards. Like many above has said, they deserve a long sentence.

@90sRetroGaming They can't just do that. They have a right to a speedy as stated by the sixth amendment.

@WaddleDeeWeegee Oh He was.

Very fortunate that the possible massacre was prevented. If that was their plan, it really makes me sick. I hope they will never get the chance or even the idea of doing something like that again.

Let's just hope Edgeworth is the prosecutor

@Zombo I know that. I was personally WISHING that could happen. Hopefully they get a bunch of time behind bars. No sympathy from me.

It's such a shame. The dude on the left's life is only just starting - for realz. Why'd he have to go and get involved? Peer pressure isn't even that big of a thing.

Also, why pokemon fans? Seriously guys? What could you possibly hope to gain from terrorizing a portion of the gaming community that huddles in corners together?

Anyone stopped to wonder what previous events have brought those 2 individuals to this point? Why they're like the way they are?

One word:

Pokemon.

Ban Pokemon.

What a couple of buffoons. Oy.

@Not_Soos All part of the system. They have every right to have someone represent them in court. They don't have to agree with their actions. They are merely supposed to relay their clients wishes.

More people thinking that shooting innocent people is fun. It's getting more and more sick out there with the violence, and now, attacking a bunch of kids for no apparent reason??? These two need to be locked up for a long time, if they get out quickly, what's going to stop them from trying to do it at another place, and this time, get it done. I don't get how people think shooting innocent people is fun.

It's cool though cos I hear people in prison love Pokemon

I'm sure those nerds will be totally safe in prison, as long as they don't drop the soap...

@SBurness Franziska would whip these fools into shape rather nicely as well. Let's just hope it's not Payne.

Oh one last thing.........KNUCKLEHEADS!

You can get 20+ years for being caught with weed, these guys should serve nothing less than that with all this incriminating evidence.

Those guys (especially the guy on the right) are going to have a very tough spell in prison. I wouldn't be surprised if they're having to be human fans* and washing clothes in the cells as we speak.

*Stand in the middle of the cell swinging towels/blankets around to cool the other inmates down. If you stop you pay the consequences....

The deserve a fair trial, good call by the judge.

I'm just glad these sickos bragged about it and were stopped at the gate by attentive people before they could do any harm. What possible reason could they have for doing something like this?

@Ayronom atleast half of which being children too, right?

@hcfwesker Yes, blame their behavior on ultraviolent video games. Just what we need: more censorship. Not that banning ultraviolent games would affect Nintendo in any way. Life is not a friggin video game. People aren't just pixels on a screen to be gunned down. Crisis averted. Lock 'em away and toss the key...