Amiibo - Nintendo's stab at the "toys to life" concept - has been a massive success in commercial terms, but the Kyoto giant has caused a lot of ill-will amongst fans by failing to meet demand and discontinuing figures almost as soon as they hit store shelves.
Get ready for some more disappointment if you're based in North America, as it has been revealed by a leaked internal memo that Target exclusive Rosalina (and Luma) won't be restocked once it has sold out. In short, when they're gone, they're gone.
The memo - the validity of which has been confirmed by Destructoid - also states that Target won't be carrying all of the Wave 3 amiibo figures in-store. Mega Man, Sonic and King Dedede will apparently only be available from Target's website.
How do you feel about this latest twist in the frustrating story of amiibo? Do you think Nintendo is playing a smart game by keeping these figures in high demand, or could this approach backfire? Let us know your thoughts - and if you're aiming to pick up Rosalina - by posting a comment below.
[source destructoid.com]
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Wow Companies are becoming more vile by the day
I think they played their hand too far. I wouldn't be too suprised if there's more somewhere down the line.
I already got my Rosalina, hue hue hue.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Nintendo is pushing Rosalina too hard as a new staple character in the Mario series for her debut as an amiibo (to be used in lots of games to come probably) to be 8-20 per store for a single day and that's it.
Even if it's in the Mario Party line or something, I fully expect her to show up later. HOWEVER Target not restocking Rosalina makes me think we may even see her Smash form again in the future somewhere down the line.
One hour on the shelves is just way too soon.
There has to be more! Rosalina is a playable character in Mario Party 10!
I'm done with amiibo. I have 5 characters, and that's enough.
Awwe, I thought for sure that they would.
@Inkling I was done at 1...
I'm super disappointed. I missed the pre orders and now I run risk of missing out on these. Also importing prices have gotten crazy. Pretty much a bummer here in NOA.
AND before snarky comments happen about pre orders being available, I was paying off medical bills and just couldn't at the time : /
@Porky they will probably make a rosalina only figure for mario party.
What they should do for a second shipment is to remove Target's exclusivity. And all other exclusivities while they are at it. Got a Japanese Meta Knight and an European Lucario, so I am only missing her and Shulk.
I am sorry but gedamn nintendo....I AM SO DONE with this sh*te.
Figures. >_>
I wasn't going to pick up Rosalina, but this just silly. There has to be a restock coming. Aren't kids a big part of the target market for these things after all? How are kids (parents of kids) supposed to get their hands on them when they sell out the moment doors open? I would like to pick up a Lucario but it doesn't seem like that'll happen either without a restock coming down the line.
What the hell Nintendo?
What?!
Well, my friends DEFINITELY lucked out yesterday when they got their Rosalinas. I have mine ordered from Japan.
But this is beyond ridiculous.
Not amazed, she will be replaced with the Mario Bros lineup one.
I did get my Rosalina and one extra for my husband's cousin because her Target got a whole 6! She never had a chance. I think the exclusive thing is BS. Atleast for most targets in my area it was 1 to 2 per customer. I just find it odd that after they were sold they then did preorders online...
@Deltadon: Well, that's understandable. You should put your health before something you can live without.
I do wish you well in your endeavors (anyone's, really) if you continue your search for amiibo.
I ordered one (only want 1) at target.com so I'm just waiting for the delivery.
In news like this I just wait for the "but" line as usual.
I wonder how many target stores get this memo and if the staff members know about it since that anti-reseller portion seems real helpful for both sides.
@UnseatingKDawg thanks!
I just wish there was a better supply in NOA or less of a scalper scenario. I don't have any solutions, just wish these things were a little more obtainable.
For those who don't know, amiibo were on page 3 of this weeks Target flyer. Rosalina, Toon Link and Bowser.
http://weeklyad.target.com/site/#/copiague-ny-11726/page/Target-150201
My kid wanted Bowser, but we've been collecting Disney Infinity and Skylanders characters so I think that's enough. Though if I saw 1 in store I'd probably pick it up, but I'm not going crazy over amiibo if Nintnedo can't be bothered to put out a steady supply. And store exclusives are a bad decision. Bad enough I paid $50 used for Xenoblade at Gamestop.
And the amiibo soap opera continues....
@Sanya Ahhhhhh I see what you did there!
Nintendo really doesn't want me to buy these damn things do they? Looks like I'm stuck with Link and Peach. Hopefully the Mario Party line is easier to get ahold of as I only want Daisy, Luigi, Toad, Rosalina, and that version of Peach.
To be fair to nintendo, I think it is fair to say that no -retailer- expected these to take off as they have. Nintendo can't produce a billion amiibos and hope they sell, they have to balance production with retailer demand plus a small cushion.
That said, nothing stopping them from making more. I hope to someday get a captain falcon, little Mac, and pit amiibo. I got lucky and my Rosalina is in the mail, hopefully without any flaws!
For those looking for Rosalina at Target here's the website to type in the info to search for store stock, which was probably old sold out this morning anyway.
http://brickseek.com/target-inventory-checker
Here's the DCPI - 207-00-5021
@Deltadon: Tell me about it. I've imported Little Mac, Captain Falcon, Pit, Lucario, Rosalina, and Ike (for a friend) so far. 'Course, I do odd jobs around town during this time of year, so that's where that money's going.
I really hope the lack of figures is because Nintendo doesn't want to overwork their chinese production plant.
@Undead_terror me too man, which was the one? Just out of curiosity......
mine was wario
I missed out on the preorders, so I ended up paying $50 for a preorder on eBay (something I normally would never do, I'm cheap lol). In hindsight, the extra $37 was worth it for me to not have to miss church and drive 1 1/2 hours to go buy a toy.
@tommykittycat ....huh?
I see a lot of others saying they are done with amiibos and I agree. What started out as fun is turning into an unneeded frustration. I quit.
I was able to preorder one, and its coming this week. What amazes me, is that I went to Target yesterday, after picking up my preorder of Lucario, and Bowser was on the display, probably about 6. TRU had some kind of sign up about the new wave of Amiibos, that the date was pushed. I had pre-ordered Bowser and Toon link from Walmart and Amazon. Amazon is saying March 2nd or before, while Walmart is saying they are releasing Feb 6, and I should get them after that. This Amiibo roll out has been a disaster. I paid 30 bux (15 for villager and 15 for shipping) to get villager from amazon Germany for my son. All of these unique amiibos appear to be available in other countries, so I think if you really want it you can get it, but you are looking to pay at least twice the amount.
Accoridng to Nintendo.com - Notice that Canada's Target no longer will get Rosalina
US: Exclusively at Target at launch.
Canada: The Rosalina amiibo figure will soon be available in limited quantities at the following retailers in Canada: Best Buy, Future Shop, Wal-Mart, EB Games , Toys 'R' Us and Amazon.ca. Please see your local retailer for more information on timing and availability. The Rosalina figure will continue to be exclusive to Target stores at launch in the U.S.
I want to stop trying to collect all of these things. However,the OCD is powerful in this one. I thought after the Marth,Villager and WFT fiasco, they would have stepped up production for those of us who actually want to give them our money. Collecting amiibos is no longer fun, just flat out annoying.
@Sanya Figures... nah just kidding.
Figures is the expression you use when something negative happens and we're talking about Rosalina FIGURES. It's funny, right guys? ....Anyone?
@tommykittycat ....Yeah some of us actually do want a Rosalina Amiibo.
@KirbyKirbyKirby
By "companies," I think you mean "Nintendo," because all these shipping and supply problems are entirely their fault.
I guess this is just the way the Amiibo system is going to be--half-assed, no information, ambiguous supply shipments, and all of it feeding straight into the hands and wallets of resellers. I don't think I'm even going to bother with any more of these things if Nintendo has no interest in maintaining proper supplies.
@rjejr
Hey, that's $40 less than GameStop was literally selling used Xenoblade Chronicles games until a consumer backlash forced them to lower the price.
That's not a joke. GameStop was actually charging about $90 for "used Xenoblade Chronicles" games at one point.
I've given up. Especially since target is now leaving Canada for good.
damn i feel bad for u guys this is why i hate alot of american companies even though i live in america this is why i like canada because u guys are awesome
@rjejr Gee-whiz! My store appears to have 12 Rosalinas, 4 Bowsers, 4 Sheiks, and 4 Toon Links in stock! I already bought them all online though. It would be nice to get some more Rosalinas... (to trade online for other rare amiibos, not to scalp)
@Quorthon Yeah I remember. And the whole time all I kept thinking was that would NEVER have happened had the game been available in all retailers, not just Gmaestop. I'm surprised Nintendo would give them any exclusive after that.
I only really bought it b/c I had a 2-1 used game coupon and 1 son wanted Kirby Return to Dreamland which was going for $50 and Super Mario Glaaxy 2 was going for $30, so I picked up Xenoblade and I think paid $40 and $40 for Kirby and $20 for Galaxy 2. how the heck KRTD was $50 used I'll never know, Nintneod must have had really limited stock all around on that one.
Thank god I got my reserve for Rosalina in Argos. Should be their tomorrow. Still missing Little Mac though.
@ULTRA-64 Link.
@tommykittycat i hate target they have small management id rather shop at gamestop for the amibo figures i love rosalina peach lucario palutana
I've got them all, so not a worry for me but....why do this?!? And why completely screw up one of your biggest global markets with these 'retailer exclusives' that have made it all but impossible for many people in the US to get a full collection, or even just the few niche characters they want?
I don't often say this with regards to Nintendo, but I'm so glad I live in the UK at the moment and have been able to preorder ever single amiibo really easily direct from Nintendo's UK website with free delivery. The fact that people in the US can't buy (or preorder) ever single one of them direct from Nintendo's US website is just plain insanity.
I got my Rosalina and Luma, thankfully. Came early to the store and snagged one. Just got to worry about the other two exclusive amiibos I care about (Shulk and Meta Knight), because I wasn't able to pre-order them when I could and they don't have a clear street date. Rosalina and Luma is a really nice figure, I hope all you that want one will find one! (for a fair price, I mean)
@tommykittycat - "your" store, you must live in the boonies, I have 19 stores show up (30 mile radius I think) Almost all say 0, 1 has 46. It's raining freezing rain snowing and sleeting right now, I'm not going anywhere. Fortuanely I don't want Rosalina. Though I have been looking for months for this #@#$%#*& Kaos Trap grrr
http://skylanderscharacterlist.com/kaos-trap-january-update/
Why is amiibo such a mess <__<
@rjejr
The high used price of games like Kirby's Return to Dreamland is partially Nintendo's fault. They spend years selling their games for full price so that they are only available for that price. Because of this, places like GameStop sell the used versions for way higher than any other used game.
Nintendo and many of their fans like to spin this as some kind of evidence that Nintendo's games hold value, but it would seem to be more likely evidence that Nintendo maintains strict control over how their games are priced so they make the most money possible on them. After all, if Super Mario Galaxy can only be purchased for $50 for 5 years, that's not exactly popularity, as it is Nintendo refusing to lower the MSRP in a manner logically consistent with the rest of the gaming industry.
Of course, it then gives the impression that the game is some kind of hot commodity, or particularly valuable, because we're so used to seeing poor-selling or poor-quality games drop in price fairly quickly.
GameStop took extra advantage by over-pricing a game that was really only available from them. Which I personally find reprehensible. GameStop is not a "collector's outlet" or an antique store, they have no right to be selling anything above MSRP.
I waited in line for Rosalina at 6:30am, just to be safe
Stuff like this is the reason I gave up on amiibo. Good grief.
@Superstick
Same here. The one I wanted the most was probably Little Mac, and the only way for me to get it is to pay ridiculous amounts over retail. If Nintendo can't be bothered to ship reasonable supplies to retail, then I won't be bothered to buy any more of these things.
This shouldn't be a hassle that benefits shifty resellers.
@truegamer341 I always get what I need at Target (not speaking about amiibo here though as I haven't been collecting those. I always find their stores to be really great.
I've been done. My oldest son wanted Little Mac for Christmas. We couldn't locate one and I refuse to "overpay" on Ebay. I did trade Nintendo Points to the same son for Yoshi. He's not the biggest fan of Yoshi and he wanted Punch Out for the Wii.
@Quorthon MSRP is suggested. Nintendo doesn't penalize retailers for dropping the price. But the games still sale well at the high prices so the retailers don't drop them.
Unlike games like Madden or Watch dogs which still have a MSRP of 60 dollars in the US but they are often sold for less. So much of their stock goes in and out of stores (bought in waves then traded in just as quickly) that there is a quick drop off in people willing to pay 60 new 55used for those games.
At best Nintendo is at fault for doing limited printing runs which causes retailers to inflate used prices and maintain MSRP.
SIGH had to work all day yesterday at gamestop and had a bunch of customers state that they got rosalina early in the morning. I called around local targets today...no stock.
I went to the two Targets in my area that have Rosalina and the guy that stocks the amiibo said that he's not stocking them until tomorrow afternoon with the rest of the tuseday software/music. He said that was the street date. Luckily he's holding on to one for me. I just hope he doesn't decide to put them out earlier. He said his store got in 40 of them, so I feel pretty good about my chances of nabbing one, as it doesn't seem like very many folks have asked for it yet.
@Ryu_Niiyama I was getting ready to say almost the exact same thing to @Quorthon but I saw your comment come up while I was typing my comment, so I deleted it. LOL
I think only GameStop here in Italy managed to take orders and it's even sold out. My other local electronic stores didn't sell one, I'm not sure about Amazon Italy but I think they didn't sell one either. I could have pre-ordered from other Amazon sites but I didn't expect Rosalina to be that scarce. I hope we get Super Mario line Rosalina in the future.
I didn't think I would get one but was at the mall and the Target had only 1 left in stock.
I managed to get a Rosalina for myself yesterday and just got back from a 45 minute ride (both ways) to get one for my brother who unfortunately missed out (and BOY, if he wasn't my brother...).
I can't believe I ever thought store exclusives might actually work in the peoples' favor... I don't know which one is worse, the fact that TRU actually might not be able to fulfill peoples' orders now, AFTER reinstating them due to cancellation the first time, or Target picking up a Mario character of all things, being flaky with pre-orders, and then saying she wont be restocked after the fact... And freakin' Best Buy hasn't said anything about Metaknight.
Is this ever gonna get any easier for us?
This is a problem I have with exclusiveness. Not only do I get a limited selection of places to get these particular items from, but once the seller decides "no", then it screws over everyone. It's one thing if it's been years after the release, but within days?
Well, seems one store near has a few of them left (at least that's what the inventory checker states). I'm tempted to get one, but due to my available funds, I dunno, plus I was thinking of MPT for $10 so I could store my CE version. Unless something wonderful happens soon, it may be one or the other (or neither).
Aww! I never got one its okay though, I got Lucario and Shulk.
I don't know if Nintendo is just being stupid and not producing enough to meet the high demand or they are running the Cartmanland model where by intentionally not letting people have something they initially did not want they have increased demand exponentially.
I don't care at all about amiibos by the way I'm just wondering what the heck Nintendo is doing.
I'm waiting for this instead.
Just called that Target store that said it had inventory of it, but they recently did a visual check (likely because many others have called in) and they had none.
@DarkKirby That is of exceptional quality, but I doubt that would be sold for $12.99.
@Ryu_Niiyama
MSRP is suggested (the word is part of the acronym), however it likely indicates that Nintendo charges more, or more for longer, for their games to retailers than the competition.
Those other companies also change MSRP's as the games age on shelves, which is why, say, God of War III is priced the same at every store for a new copy. It has nothing to do with "penalizing" anyone, it has to do with Nintendo dropping MSRPs or charging less for products they ship to retailers.
This is also Nintendo we're talking about--a company notorious for being a corporate control freak (do we need to go over the ill-conceived, monstrously controlling YouTube program again?). Retailers may do sales or clearance price items to clear stock or if they are going to make sufficient income from the sales, but dropping MSRPs is not something they are apt to do just willy-nilly.
This is why the retailer-driven price drops of the Wii U are notably troubling for the console--these retailers are doing it to clear stock of something that doesn't sell. Then again, Metroid Other M doesn't sell, but still retails for $50 in most places. Video games are almost always sold based on the MSRP of the publisher except in the noted situations--trying to clear or move poor-selling stock, or with temporary sales.
The other element of this that is obviously on Nintendo is that MS, Sony, PC games, and games from other publishers do not operate in this way. The MSRPs for those games drop over time as Sony, MS, etc lower the prices. It has become another one of those things that just makes Nintendo look unnaturally different from the rest of the industry.
Need to go find my Rosalina.
@Discostew That'd not an amiibo, it's a sculpture by a different company and is a lot more money. NL published an article about her a while back
I just can't imagine Nintendo not re-releasing these as non exclusives. There's just too much money to be made & why would you leave easy cash on the table? They have to be artificially creating these shortages to drum up the hype & demand. By not commenting on new orders they're just fueling the fire for demand higher and higher just like the Wii.
Got my Rosalina, Sheik and Toon Liink (the last ones)!
This is such a terrible business practice though...Nintendo should be ashamed
I went to Target first thing in the morning before church. Got to the store just a couple of minutes after they opened, and found about 9 people already in the electronics section. Luckily, everyone was very civil about the situation, and there was plenty of Rosalinas to go around. The only figure that wasn't stocked well was Shiek. I believe the employee said they only got 4 of her for the store.
Let's just say I'm glad I preordered her from across the pond...
I love watching all the scalpers desperately trying to unload their huge stock of Marth amiibos on eBay before the restock occurs. Nintendo has the power to really hurt these scalpers if they wanted to take action.
@Quorthon Where do you shop for Metroid Other M? A quick peruse online tells me I can fetch it anywhere between 13 and 30 dollars new. It's 10 used at GS and if by some miracle they got in a new copy, it could be fetched for 5 bucks.
Even if Nintendo does charge the retailers more, there's no denying the fact that their evergreen titles don't get traded in as often as games on other systems. I game on anything and everything, and I'm not blind to Nintendo's faults but I would 10 out 10 times trade in my copy of God of War III before I would even think of trading in my copy of Skyward Sword. Which is why it fetches so high. If no one's trading it in, then it's harder to procure secondhand, which drives up the price for the game. On the other side of the coin, I could get a nice return should I decide to sell it (in most cases). If it still sells at the original MSRP, why lower it?
And we know for sure that limited pressings is what drives up the prices of games like Kirby Dreamland and Prime Trilogy, which is why it fetches so darn high everywhere. but you can also get a nice return on those as well (though the market on Prime has been hurt a bit due to it being available on the Wii U eShop for $20)
I got Rosalina from Japan the other day. It's a really nice figure.
@Inkling Yeah I have 4 (including Rossalina) and i'm not gettin any more!
The less Rosalina I have to encounter in my life, the better.
I got Rosalina and Lucario in the mail today so I'm good. Just waiting on Shulk and Meta Knight now and the rest of series 3 from Wally World. Haven't seen Series 4 yet thankfully... Ugh there needs to be a better way.
I didn't even take much of a chance to get it here, I just ordered from japan
Hopefully Sonic will arrive at GameStop soon so I can get my #1 amiibo, luckily I pre-ordered.
@Sir_JBizzle
I said at retail, and since this article is focused on Target, used that as an example. Other M is still $50 new. Every other place selling it new for less, is trying to clear stock of an unattractive product.
The other point is highly debatable. In my time at GameStop, Nintendo games got traded in roughly the same as any other console, with the exception that the Wii was largely a casual audience and gamers tend to frequent GameStop. I don't think that large casual audience gamed enough to factor a place like GameStop into any kind of routine.
The thing is, when Nintendo games are traded in, they are purchased almost immediately because consumers are sick of seeing the prices never drop on the new games. I must have sold Mario Kart Wii a dozen times in my brief time--and it was always the used copy because no one wanted to pay those ridiculous new prices.
I don't think there's any real difference in how often Nintendo games are traded in or kept compared to the rest of the industry. Though the minor difference there is, it's not because of some magical quality to the games, it's because core Nintendo fans are just very different than regular gamers. It's the people, not the products. And beyond that, every game Nintendo makes gets traded in eventually. Every GameStop has a massive surplus of DS Pokemon games, for instance. One of Nintendo's most popular franchises is traded in quite regularly.
And this is something I've been talking about for a couple years now--Nintendo fans approach gaming differently than every other gamer out there. In a lot of ways, but that's really a conversation for another time.
The Prime trilogy for Wii is actually very easy to find--I have seen it at nearly every GameStop I've dared to enter in the past few months. What isn't there is the steelbook version of that set--which I saw only once, when it appeared at the GameStop where I worked, and I bought it before it was ever put on the shelf. So yes, I was that guy, but it was for three of the best games Nintendo ever produced, and the utter perfection of the Metroid franchise. In some cases, you're right--Fire Emblem for the Wii, for instance, did not receive a huge pressing and neither did Xenoblade Chronicles, so they are extremely rare. But there are far rarer Wii games, none of which are from Nintendo. Fritz Chess or F1 2009 or Dokopon Kingdom, for instance. I only have the middle one of those, purchased due to it's rarity. Fritz Chess is the rarest Wii game, having apparently only been released in a small print in Canada for some reason.
The vast majority of Nintendo-produced games are released in ample numbers, however. But Nintendo doesn't drop prices which makes it easier for places like GameStop to gouge. It's entirely possible one other reason some people hold onto many of these games is a false concept of value based around these prices. In the end, though, Nintendo makes sure their games cost more for longer. And for those that are held for longer, quality is not the reason. It's a different mindset of that consumer, and the high prices create a higher demand for the used versions, so they don't stay in stores as long as, say, a used copy of Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One.
I imported "Rosetta" from Japan and she arrived today! YAY!
Glad I preordered mine back in December. She ran out fast in the UK.
I bought Rosalina at my local game shop.
Mhuahahahaha
Nintendo's strategy with these things is flat out insulting.
Well, doesn't matter to me I guess, Target is moving out of Canada and I won't be able to get anything from Target as Target USA won't ship to Canada... they won't ship here even when they move out because apparently we are "bad for sales".
@Quorthon
Yeah, the Metroid Prime trilogy was at my local gamestop too, it's always been there.... just with a $80 price tag.
@Inkling
Yep, f**k em, I was gonna go for them all, but Nintendo bit itself in the @$$ on this one, half of my wave 3 is getting sold once I get them in and I'm already in the process of offloading a few characters I have already...
Unless things change, I'm done with amiibo. Can't even get my favorites because this whole situation is so dumb. At this point, I'm just happy with the two I've got. Might get a Fox, but after that, no more amiibo for me unless Nintendo does something about this.
@AK-1138 Mariotehplumber, is that you?
@Quorthon well Other M is a poor example anyways because you can't find it new at the retail level new anymore. All you're going to find is secondhand copies. Also, you said it "retails for $50 in most places" which would indicate at least in this example, the conversation was moving beyond Target. Hence my brief search for the title anywhere I could find it, which Amazon, eBay and GS were the only places I personally found.
Prime availability might be a regional thing. In my area, you'd be hard pressed to find any copies until recently when the game hit the eShop. Though in general, you'd have to imagine it was hard to find at some point being that GameStop dared to sell it 90 bucks used at one point. Which is part of the reason the copies that were sitting on shelves stayed there.
I did go out of my way to point out evergreen titles which I know those sell in the millions, so obviously they're mass produced, but yet some of those are still hard to find used, they still sell respectable numbers new. So if it's going to sell, why lower MSRP?
On the other hand, Nintendo is pretty much in a position to create that 'false concept of value' They know their core fans will hold on to their games because they think their games are valuable, pieces of quality work as it's the 'core Nintendo fans' that's keeping the company afloat right now. Nintendo knows they will pick up most 1st party games and hold on to them which in turn allows them to charge more for their games longer. It sure isn't the general consumer that's helping them out for the most part. Which I guess circles back around to you saying Nintendo gamers are a different breed (which by the tone of some of your posts, that actually might be a bad thing... Haha)
I hadn't been able to preorder Rosalina despite having alerts set on several sites. Finally yesterday morning I was able to order from Target and I received confirmation today that she had shipped. Man, some amiibo's are just downright impossible to find.
I got up at 6:30 AM on a Sunday to drive for 25 minutes and start a line outside of Target, just to get mine. Gosh, I shouldn't have to do all of that for a stupid toy. But I'm obsessed. Oy...
Disappointment indeed
Not looking good for King Dedede, but I shall not give up the hunt!
I love it!
I love these Amiibos being rare. Makes owning them that much more special. Got my Rosalina in the mail today, as well as Sheik, Toon Link and Bowser with more on the way.
@midnafanboy
Just some friendly advice if you ever want an Amiibo that's hard to find- order the Japanese version from eBay. Probably cost you around $20 plus shipping if you shop around, which is pocket change for a rare Amiibo really.
I got lucky and was able to get two Rosalinas Sunday opening. So...yeah...
These amiibo issues will never come to an end. It's unfortunate for those that can't get their hands on the ones they want.
@DarkKirby That is what I've been waiting for!
@JaxonH Thanks for the advice brother!
Just picked one up today! Super nice looking figure. One left in stock in my local target, what incredible luck!
Great job, Nintendo.
@JaxonH
I know man! Its super fun calling around to different retailers and asking for them. I called like five Target's in my area, and finally found ONE Rosalina, the guy was nice enough to hold it for me till I got there that afternoon.
Ive also got a Lucario coming in soon! So exciting!
Only one that I REALLY want but missed, is Ike. I must have him for S.T.E.A.M.
@DarkKirby
I've got that figma on preorder! So nice looking.
@JaxonH Good luck finding any of the exclusives for under $30 at this time (imports or otherwise).
I really hope Nintendo steps-up and takes care of this scalper nonsense by releasing an abundance of stock.
They certainly have the power to do so.
@DarkKirby "I don't know if Nintendo is just being stupid and not producing enough to meet the high demand or they are running the Cartmanland model where by intentionally not letting people have something they initially did not want they have increased demand exponentially."
Oh my God, you're right! This whole retailer thing was just a ploy to make us want something we didn't even know we wanted!
Well played, Nintendo...
@Quorthon amen to that!
@Sir_JBizzle
My brother found a brand spanking new copy of Other M for $10.00 at a K-Mart.
@Lunapplebloom
That's nice! Sheik is a very cool figure, I'd like to add her to my collection soon, but I'm having trouble justifying buying any more of these darn things!
@MyBodyIsReggie
I actually just scooped Rosalina for $17.99 and $8 shipping, so double the MSRP but hey, considering it's being shipped from the other side of the world and it's an extremely rare and sought after figure, I'd say the price is definitely right.
There's already Lucina and Robin listed for around $20-25. Seems that there's always at least one or two sellers with fair prices for any given figure.
@JellySplat
Nice! Ya me too. They cancelled my Lucario then allowed me to re order, so I went ahead and bought 2. Good thing I did, cause my brother's got cancelled- now I can plug him with a Lucario and I don't end up with an extra.
@JaxonH
Lol! I have five brothers who each wanted one, so luckily they were able to.
I actually bought two of the figures myself, I'm no scalper, but I thought maybe I could do a trade with someone or something to get a Meta knight, or Ike. Or if I can't do that, I can just sell it to help pay for all the amiibos I've been buying recently. This is the ONLY duplicate I have bought thus far.
I really love Lucario!
[/facedesk] OH COME ON!!!
@JellySplat
Right. Me too. Even Shulk and Marth and Mega Man and the others, I only ordered one. I think I was just over-compensating for the cancelled order with Lucario.
Had I not needed to help my brother, I probably would've found a mutually beneficial trade with someone here looking for one.
@JaxonH well, I must be using a different internet than everyone else because I spent the better part of yesterday on eBay and never saw Rosalina/Rosetta going for less than $38 (US).
Nintendo please produce more, my local shops have never had a Little Mac or Rosalina in.
@Sir_JBizzle
As I noted: Other M, new at retail, $50. At Target. It has been there, for that price, every single time I've been to Target.
So yes, you can find Other M, new, at retail. And it's MSRP is still $50.
Also, if the "core Nintendo fans" are keeping the company afloat, then why did they have three years of losses?
I've pointed this part out numerous times before--No console maker, not even Nintendo, can succeed supporting on the shoulders of just a small core fanbase. They may be able to struggle and survive, but that is not success, and it is not thriving. I don't think that was your point--that Nintendo can just run forever on support from an ever-decreasing core fanbase--only that this is not a winning position for them to be in.
I suppose, in that regard, it behooves them to have their core audience brainwashed, so to speak, into believing the games have some kind of imaginary value that only comes from them strictly controlling the prices so that they never go down.
What is the benefit to lowering prices over time? Easy, sales. More consumers are able to play the games and more are likely to play them. If selling at a lower MSRP wasn't profitable, MS and Sony wouldn't do it, which they do--in droves. Movies, video games, music--most things drop the MSRP over time. Nintendo is the lone wolf in this, and that means either they don't understand the market, or they'd rather get as much money out of their core fans for the longest, rather than giving them expected, industry-normal deals.
weeps
Rosalina is the only amiibo I wanted to buy from the beginning, and the more I hear about her the sadder I get.
This si so ridiculous... well, thank god I preordered Dedede. Now to go pester the folks at FutureShop until I hunt down Meta Knight and complete my Kirby trio.
@Quorthon this is what you said:
Which implies that we are talking beyond just Target. I respect your opinions and I agree with them the majority of the time, paticularly concerning third party strategy, but you can't change things to fit your argument. And again, your example must be a regional thing. An outlier. I went shopping all this morning, including two Targets (because the first one sold my Rosalina) and there's no copies of M to be found new for any price. Same at Walmart. Same at TRU. The only places I see it new is Amazon which goes for $30. So suggested being the word which we've already established at this point, it's up to Target (at least against my many previous years in the retail industry before I moved on) to drop the price on their goods just like they, and any other retailer would do with any other product in their store to clear merch. They already brought that product at the price they paid Nintendo for in the first place, so if your Target(s) bought more than what they could actually sell, then the onus is on them to take a loss on the product by marking it down. Unless I'm missing something along the MSRP chain. Which I could very well be. Also, dropping a price doesn't mean it's always going to sell. You go to that same Target or any other retailer, you'll see bins and shelves of lowered MSRP games (with some discounted further) So while lowering MSRP can yield some results, it's not the end all be all of moving product. The majority of video games sales come from buyers at the initial MSRP anyways. In the case of Nintendo in paticular (which not to discount others) their evergreen titles still sell at MSRP even years later. Which probably plays into their decision not to lower it at the same clip as others. We both know Nintendo's issues go far, far beyond the price of their software. Though to be fair I know there are people who wish eShop sales were a bit more substantial. So I'm not saying there's not work to be done in that area. At all.
But yea, 'alfoat' wasn't to say they could live off core fans perpetually, but anyone would be remiss to say that it hasn't helped them stay in business. Obviously with handheld business by far and wide propping them up. Then again, they had almost 30 years of surplus up to this point, with help from the Wii's success, fad or not. Which circles back around to what has been discussed before concerning Nintendo and their relationship with third parties and what they could do to to improve that.
We'll also have to agree to disagree on the whole 'imaginary value' portion of your argument. If there was poor quality, precieved or otherwise, Nintendo games on a whole wouldn't be rated as high as they do, even from the media outlets that (at least according to the most ardent Nintendo fans) are biased against them.
Obviously I'm one person, but I'm far from brainwashed and believe Nintendo games hold value. As with anything there are few exceptions, but more often than not, I can go back and play most Nintendo games again and again before I could from anyone else. I think most any true gamer (the ones that play everything without allegiance) I can't say that I've walked into a store looking for any game and saying, "damn I wish that game was cheaper" maybe except 16 years ago when I was looking for Chrono Cross and this rare Dragon Ball Z game on the PS One. ☺
@Sir_JBizzle
It may be a regional thing. Every time I've seen Other M still in a store, it's been full price. I tend to notice this as I don't think the game is worth $1, and I'm always surprised to see it not clearanced out. Most places I see it, it's still at MSRP.
Nintendo games are not any higher quality than any other developer or publisher. While it's good that Nintendo, as a publisher, came out on top for 2014 Meta reviews, that was not the case in 2013 or 2012, and the only constant is that the same few companies seem to be bouncing around the top. I'm not saying Nintendo's games are poor quality and all this perceived value is just make-believe--just that Nintendo's quality is no different than anywhere else in the industry. They're one of the better publishers--but that just means they're in the same league as EA, Take-Two, Ubisoft, Sony, or MS--as well they should be. Hell, the highest-rated DS game not only wasn't from Nintendo, it was Grand Theft Auto.
Nintendo gamers perceive a higher value and quality to the games and why not? These are dedicated fans, like the Cult of Apple, in many ways. I'm only saying that Nintendo falsely maintains "high quality" perception by maintaining high MSRPs at a time when the prices--in literally every other industry, and from every other publisher--naturally drop. Nintendo consoles have also had historically (since the N64) far lower attach rates than any other console--I'm not saying this is the reason, only that it likely adds to the problem--as well as having far fewer games and a fanbase that tends to ignore 3rd party en masse.
Now, I think certain Nintendo games hold value. Super Mario Bros 3, for instance, is still outstanding. Kirby's Adventure, Metroid Prime, Eternal Darkness. At the same time, that's no different than how I feel about the original NES Contra, because the perception of value is partially tied to nostalgia. At the same time, I don't think any of the "Wii-Whatever" games have long-term value, and those are all Nintendo titles, nor do I see that in Mario Party, and despite some of the pedigree of Nintendo's catalog, Nintendo fans like to pretend things like Wii Music or Pokemon Rumble U don't exist.
That long-term value is not a reality. It's a personal opinion crafted in large part by nostalgia. Sure, Super Mario Bros 3 has aged beautifully. The same can't be said of Hogan's Alley or Urban Champion. Nintendo fans like to pretend this is due to some kind of "Nintendo quality." No, it's individual games. No different than Contra or Castlevania or Chrono Trigger or Turok 2. This company still crapped out FlingSmash and yawned out Nintendo Land and dumped a pile of Rusty's Real Deal Baseball to the eShop.
If by "go back and play most Nintendo games," you mean the majority of Nintendo's games are "of a playable quality," that's really true of most developers and publishers who survive to this day. Most games are actually, perhaps ironically, "above average." To say this about Nintendo is hardly any more factual than saying it about Take Two or EA or Sony (Sega, on the other hand, has had some dark days post-hardware, but are looking better now).
The thing is, it seems that Nintendo's perceived quality comes from Nintendo maintaining higher MSRP's for longer and fans simply believing it out of their personal tastes, and selectively ignoring the terrible games Nintendo has made. In reality, they are not any more a better quality company than, really, any of the other major publishers. I mean, I've played Intellivision and Atari 2600 games that hold up to this day, and I've played Nintendo games that have aged as badly as Lindsay Lohan. You may disagree, and that's fine. This is from observation, not necessarily science. But Nintendo has made their fair share of crap.
@whodatninja That's not even funny. Anyone who hates something and then makes it their mission to surround themselves with that thing obviously has a fair few mental disorders. It doesn't make sense to anybody.
Use your brain next time you try to be an insufferable internet snark for no reason at all.
@AK-1138 You basically walked into that joke yourself, with the comment you made. And I thought it was pretty funny
I work BACKROOM at target and didn't get any of the 29 I backstocked (on the day before it came out, so I couldn't buy it then)... if they actually want people to own this amiibo, they'll make more, otherwise they better not make something that's unlockable with Rosalina
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