In the general consensus that we've seen online, the latest Nintendo Direct broadcasts went down rather well. Coming in it at over 40 minutes each, they were packed with details; yet, as we acknowledged in our reaction to events, the North American presentation was somewhat overshadowed by the surprising revelation that only the New Nintendo 3DS XL will be released in the region.
Unlike in Japan, Australia / New Zealand and Europe, the smaller model - which incorporates interchangeable cover plates - won't be available at launch in North America. The region will have a unique XL model, with a Red iteration taking the place of the Metallic Blue that'll be available elsewhere. Nevertheless, it's a decision that's baffling many.
As we suggested yesterday, there's undoubtedly business logic - based on sales, focus groups etc - that's driven this decision, even if we feel stripping away the consumer's choice isn't the best move. Nintendo was asked about this by Kotaku, but unfortunately a non-statement was served up.
Different territories make their own business decisions regarding individual products and timing. We think New Nintendo 3DS XL makes the most sense for our market. Nintendo makes different systems at different price points for a whole range of consumers, and New Nintendo 3DS XL simply expands those choices even further.
We're used to this kind of corporate language from the amiibo stock problems of the past weeks, though that doesn't make it any less frustrating. There's always the hope that the smaller models will come to North America in the future, of course, but when pressed on that the only reply was that there's "nothing to announce at this time".
How surprised are you by this situation with the New Nintendo 3DS in North America, and do you feel it's a big issue? Sound off in the comments below.
[source kotaku.com]
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I assume this means the 3DSXL vastly outsells the 3DS in the US, which isn't surprising given its myriad of editions over the last few years. I prefer it as well, though it's a shame they region-lock for those who don't.
It may be because they're having trouble managing the amiibo situation, and have no idea to manage the potential of faceplates getting mismanaged.
It may be because they're having trouble managing the amiibo situation, and have no idea to manage the potential of faceplates getting mismanaged.
I don't understand...
I'd like to know WHY they let different territories make such vastly different decisions. Maybe there are sound economic reasons, but they never tell us. I also fail to see how witholding products from certain regions when demand is apparent can be good for customer relations. Thinking especially about the Club Nintendo sites here - if it's free, then claiming things won't sell will not wash. I would like to see a fairer worldwide business approach. Abandoning region locking would eliminate much of this, it would seem.
As someone already pointed out on the forum, do they not actually read over these kinda statements before putting them out? It makes no sense at all really...I mean look:
"Different territories make their own business decisions regarding individual products and timing. We think New Nintendo 3DS XL makes the most sense for our market. Nintendo makes different systems at different price points for a whole range of consumers, and New Nintendo 3DS XL simply expands those choices even further."
So, by limiting us to the XL and not giving us the option for the standard -at all-(as of yet), our choices are expanded? Unless that 'simply' is put in there to mean 'expand, but just a little', it is doing the exact opposite.
I guess my 2DS will apparently be getting more use until we hear a further announcement(-if- we do), because they clearly aren't interested in my(and others') cash. :-l
My reaction: I went from Day 1 purchase to no purchase at all. It's their loss not mine. In fact, it opened my eyes. I think my money would be better spent on getting a different system (the Vita, also at 200$) instead of wasting money on something I already have, only a little bit superior. To think that if Nintendo would just have released both model like....EVERYWHERE ELSE, I would still continue to throw my money at them blindly, but oh well, it's for the better. Thanks Nintendo for screwing it up
I personally don't care. I was planning to get the XL and don't care about the faceplates. I might be part of the problem but I don't care.
"Different territories make their own business decisions. We here at Nintendo of America don't make very many though, and the ones we do make are baffling and frustrating to our consumers."
Trying to get my head around how limiting choice can expand choice.
I'm assuming they mean by limiting choice on xl, they can expand further the choices of limited edition new xls..
If the thing wasn't region locked, this wouldn't be that bad, but since it is, this is just an utterly stupid move by Nintendo.
And this is coming from an European.
Because reasons.
America. Getting the short stick again.
I think they made the right choice. The 3DS XL sold more units in the U.S.A. and was overall much more popular with consumers. If they did a small run of the smaller size unit they could be perceived as yet again not supplying enough stock. If the units sat on shelves, big stores would not purchase more stock until the unpopular units were sold off.
It's a business decision. They are making decisions to better their business.
So vote with your dollar. Don't like the New 3DS XL, then don't buy it.
Meanwhile, the rest of us can move on with getting down to some sweet sweet NN3DS action while you suckers mope!
I know a bunch of people that would much rather have the standard size than the larger. Many think they still might get the XL eventually, but they are no longer in any sort of rush to want to do so because of this, showing there /IS/ demand for them and there are people that /WOULD/ rather have the smaller one than the big. I can understand it probably all comes down to specific economic decisions, but unlike other 3DS this isn't just a normal model change. From this, it sounds like Nintendo might think that the only people that will buy the smaller model are those who want to spend less money, or people of a younger age group that they'd rather target with the current 2DS stock. That is simply not the case in the slightest from what I've seen on the internet. I've heard of many people that did feed into the crowd buying the XL that have since decided the stretched out screens and larger size are not for them, for instance, and that's clearly not something interest-wise that pure sales numbers can reflect.
If Nintendo is worrying about the economic decision, I think it would be within their interests to release interest surveys to gauge actual and not ASSUMED interest in the Standard model, and go from there. That way, they know whether it is worth the risk, and can make a safer and more informed economic decision. But I doubt they'll even bring the matter up. sigh
Simply put, non 3DS owners now have a choice of 3 DS variants. Current 3DS owners have one choice to upgrade. Either you will or you won't, though the majority of people wanting to upgrade will. The minority holding out can either wait for the smaller variant or upgrade to the XL. Seriously, the number of people complaining in comment sections are a drop in the ocean and not indicative of the entire 3DS market. Consumers are like small children, they always want what they can't have.
I'm now in no rush to get the N3DS. I was wanting one at launch, but the slicker smaller model was the only one I was considering buying. I guess I'll have to wait and hope that they release it at a later date. I just hope they release it with the Super Famicom buttons. Since our controllers were all purple. Then again, I would probably buy a SNES gray one with Purple Buttons.
The real reason is simple:
They ran out of the smaller model because Nintendo of Europe used them all up in the New 3DS Ambassador Offer.
Ok, that was a deliberate troll post. I think it's a crazy decision. I personally prefer the small New 3DS over the XL and I was previously using the 3DS XL prior to getting the Ambassador one. I feel for you, Nintendo of America customers.
Nintendo and American retailers are having to deal with the previous existing supply on store shelves and the "New" products will drive those prices down . The smaller "New" model will only push them further. We'll know in a couple of weeks depending on how far prior model prices fall. This is likely why the American market was a latter one for the new model.
As other's have said, this is clearly a decision that is most likely based on the idea that the XL variety grossly outsells the normal model in NA.
Undoubtedly a poor decision.It may well be that the XL vastly outsells the smaller model and makes sense from a business perspective but taking away that option that the rest of the world has will leave a bad taste in many fans mouths.Even for those who were probably going to get an XL anyway if given the choice,you get the mind set of wanting what you can't have.Also this after select Europeans getting the Ambassador version is not the way to go about keeping your loyal fan base on side!
I've heard rumors that Nintendo of America is planning on introducing the regular sized model at a later date. I'll probably hold off on buying a New 3DS until we hear more. I vastly prefer the regular model to the oversized, barely-portable one.
To have the standard size everywhere else but North America is simply mind boggling.
It's the only model I would want anyway, so its ok with me. I also don't know anyone with the reg 3DS, except my son who has my old one. Everyone has the XL.
Nintendo would be wise to release the normal one later on, effectively having a second launch for the New line and when other territories have more plates, thus having a bigger selection from the start.
?!?!?!
Okay, first, mangling the Virtual Console, then everything related to Super Smash Bros.'s peripherals, now this... Three strikes, you're out. It's time to step down, Reggie.
Who cares. Most people wouldn't have bought it anyways. Just one of those scenarios where people only want it cause they can't have it.
The XL is by far superior to that tiny little screen. Now, I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to have the choice, but really, were getting the NEW 3DS which is a blessing. Not something to bitch about. But as per usual, people completely ignore the good and focus only on whatever bad they can find in the situation.
It's quite worrying that Nintendo keep underestimating demand for their products. They need to be more ambitious and stop being quite so cautious.
@JaxonH: Says you. I can't fit an XL in my pocket or in any of my cases or anything!
The xl feels really good compared to the smaller version. I don't know why anyone would want it. (this is probably what NoA was thinking too.)
Assuming that the XL model has been a bigger seller than the standard, and I do like my XL better than my old black one. But the new standard is bigger! I think it's the right size- screens large enough to see, but still small enough to fit in a picket easily. And I'm tired of seeing posts about "Lolz the xl fits in my pocket LOL buy bigger pants."
That's not even the point. It's unfair to show us a product, get people excited, and then pull the rug out from under us on reveal day. If they really think it won't sell here, or that stocking plates will be an issue, why can't they just offer it online?
If I can buy old game manuals and Wii remotes online from Nintendo, why can't they sell me that white, colored button 3ds?
@Spoony
Last O,checked, the XL outsells the regular size in ALL territories, so that is a load of bull. Hell, Nintendo's second biggest market is the US outside of Japan, so what real sense does it make to determine for us that we won't ever choose the snaller model?
I'm sorry but this is going to backfire on the company and I hope it blows up in their face.
I was going to get the XL anyways - no big deal for me.
@BaffleBlend Understand that there will always be some who prefer the normal size. But it's always been a slim minority. Yet almost every comment has been people complaining, and does not accurately represent the small percentage that would have actually bought one over the XL
@Spoony Well put, well put indeed!
What changes things is the changeable face plates. Many people will eat those up and if NoA doesn't see that there's money yo be made there then it's their loss. If you sell the smaller model 30$ cheaper and someone buys 2-3 face plates then you already have more money then just the xl alone. Sure some of those face plates will just sit there forever and that's probably what they're thinking.
The regular smaller size is much superior and would have liked that. Still I want a new 3ds regardless so alas I am buying the new xl. Disappointed but NOA got me. I will buy the xl and still be happy and I advise others disappointed to do the same and bite the bullet. Its still worth it new 3ds whatever size so go ahead and buy the xl. NOA not bringing the regular.
@Drac_Mazoku C'mon, that's just petty... You must've never wanted a New 3DS at all, if only having the XL available at launch is a deal-breaker. I'd understand if you'd always wanted the Vita more, but you're saying that only having the better** version of the New 3DS to choose from is a deal-breaker.
*The XL is better in *my opinion, since I don't care about the faceplates; your opinion may be different.
NOA has been in a consistent tailspin, for the last year, releasing insufficient amounts of stock to meet the demand, and further alienating their customer base. It's disappointing that, as someone who's stuck by this company for nearly thirty year, the American audience is so frequently underwhelmed by NOA's lackluster performance.
Bad move, Nintendo. It's a very premature projection to just assume nobody wants a more compact handheld with interchangeable covers. It's a completely different kind of appeal, and now that there are some very important handling differences (the space between the face buttons and C-Stick, the distance between the upper corners and ZL/ZR), it's even more important to give players an option.
I'm glad this won't happen in Europe, but this is still a decision many can't understand, because it's nonsensical, frankly.
@Mus1cLov3r Oh yes, I was REALLY willing to buy a N3DS. I want to play Xenoblade. I want the faster CPU. I just don't want another XL ever. I had 2 XL in my life. Both of them looked really ugly compared to my previous OG and my current 2DS. The screen is not as sharp and bright, and with such a low resolution, it's really painful to watch on the XL. Also, my first XL got a cracked hinge after one year of EXTREME but normal usage. My second one, after only 1 month have become REALLY wobbly, and made an horrible clicking sound, like my first one did before one day it got the cracked hinge. So when they released the crystal blue 2DS, I sold my XL once and for all, waiting for the N3DS to be released. A smaller model was the only thing I was willing to buy. So yeah, I'm pretty sure I will keep my 2DS for now instead of upgrading to something I don't want. I will miss Xenoblade, but just one game will not make me buy another XL model, sorry.
And my personal view is really beside the point. Not relasing both model, giving less option to begin with is a stupid move from Nintendo, no matter if you care or not because you always wanted an XL.
You know what this is? It's Operation Rainfall in console form. Seriously, having the choice of bringing things over to appease the few/many and they choose NOT to because they think the market doesnt want or need it?
If only there was a way NoA could've tested the water and raise notice for the standard N3DS... Perhaps some kind of program for their biggest fans/consumers... Maybe something Europe has done and proven to work... If only such a program existed!
@JaxonH The XL is only better in that it is easier to see, if we're only talking the screen size(which also makes the pixel-y mess that is the same res easier as well, which ruins it's appeal otherwise personally). The new standard also appears to have found more of a sweet spot with size in that regard because it is bigger than the original's screen.
And this is ignoring blatantly questionable decisions regarding the N3DS such as missing out on face plates, etc.
Blindly looking at only positives and not addressing potential issues(that have next to -no- good reason stated for them at that) is just as bad as only looking at the negatives.
As @ShikabaneHime13 said, it's almost amusing in a way because EVERYONE ELSE gets it but NA, despite the XL pretty much selling better elsewhere as well. N may as well have not released the standard at all if popularity was an issue, which further calls out the poor excuse given.
Ah well I suppose. -If- we for some bizarre reason don't get the standard, any exclusives can wait for the next gen then(since they tend to keep bc).
It was a poor decision not to release the standard model. I have a current XL but wanted to downsize to a new 3DS, and liked the screen size being between a current 3DS and XL (not to mention the faceplates and button colors). I am disappointed and they lost an immediate pre-order from me. I'll stick with my current XL until they change their minds in the near future (hopefully) and release the standard model.
I don't understand why so many people in the US are disappointed with this direct. I know we are all individuals with are own wants and needs, but come on. Look at the list of games the N3DS are getting for the first half of the year. We have Wii games on Virtual console now. Fire Emblem was announced. We have a deliciously robust amount of Games coming out. A New console ( no charger weird) with great improvements. The nitpicking that transpires is uninspiring. Granted, you didn't get the model you wanted or the color you wanted. It is a launch haven't you all done this before? OK Rant is over.
@River3636
People that are upset are usually more vocal than those that are happy. The internet is humanities emotion dumpster. Rarely does the vocal majority rear its head.
EDIT: And when they do, they are easily distracted.
@Lalivero You raise some fair points, but my statement was more or less responding to the fact that only a small minority buy the smaller versions, especially in NA, yet 99% are complaining as if this actually affects them, knowing dang well they wouldn't have bought it had it been available.
"Different territories make their own business decisions regarding individual products and timing. "
Yes NoA, we all learned by now you make more bad business choices compared to the other regions.
@River3636
There is only one game confirmed to be exclusive for the N3DS as of now so there really isn't many games to think about. All the other games announced with work with a regular 3DS. So really, right now it is just a 3DS with improved hardware and a single exclusive game.
@Spoony you are right about that. I know if I only wanted the standard size I would have been disappointed for about 3 seconds. I would have gotten over it so fast because Xenoblade Chronicles is what I want and playing Majoras mask on a New console will bring me utter joy. It is about the games for me anyway.
@Spoony amen to that! (That's just been stolen for my signature!)
"We don't make great decisions all of the time.... please understand."
A big issue? Well, I have been solely a loyal Nintendo consumer my whole life - for about 25 years starting at the age of 6. I have been eagerly awaiting the chance to buy the white, standard size New 3DS ever since hearing about it months ago. Together with other things - like never getting a chance to buy the white Wii U deluxe and never getting the chance to buy the GBA Ambassador games - this has become the nail in the coffin for me. I'm actually done with Nintendo (NoA, but for me it's the same thing). I won't be hopping on board with any other gaming company; I'm simply done with Nintendo. And FWIW, I'm not someone who's ever made such a strong statement before. So yeah, I guess it's kind of a big issue for me.
And no, I don't think there's a chance in hell they'll be giving NA the standard size - ever. If they didn't do it at launch like every other region, they're not doing it; especially not since they clearly "made up for it" by giving us our own "exclusive" XL color. Score!
@ikki5 so these people complaining shouldn't buy it because there is just one game coming out in April so far. They can wait because after all this is a launch.
@FritzFrapp be fair... In all honesty, the Wii was a glaring success! people did not BUY a Wii U, thought it sucked, then bought themselves either a XB1/PS4... If people had, then the launch sales numbers would not have been so low. It's been two years, and everyone seems to think that they got the short end of he stick... Sorry, but in my opinion, Wii U console owners got it good. At least we're not stuck playing the same 5 old tired games they got on the other consoles.
@River3636
I brought that up because you said we should be happy and excited because of the list of games.... a list that consists of one game. overall, there really isn't much reason to go out and spend another $200 on another 3DS without more incentive to buy. If everything you currently want to play is coming out on the 3DS you already own, why would you need to upgrade or upgrade right now. Really, this is the best for people who don't own a 3DS as they would need to buy a system anyway to play all the games they want but then here, they got one choice and it is a choice that also doesn't come with an adapter meaning they'd have to spend a little more even if it is only a couple of dollars.
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All i know is that this debacle took the wind out of my sails.. I'm no longer on the hype train, trying to figure out how to afford a NN3DS at launch. I'll be happily playing Majora's Mask and waiting for a real response from Nintendo about whether we'll ever get it or not.
It's a bummer for sure, and makes me really question the leadership ability of Reggie overall.
@JaxonH The whole positivity/negativity thing was more a general statement on my part, too, to put that out there.
I know some internet people are probably doing this for the heck of it, but I know (of) people who are actually calling NoA to ask questions about why it isn't making its way here.
It's a shame that we at least weren't given some kind of ambassador promotion like EU with the standard though. Can't even import a model because of region locking(which would've lessened the blow). :-l
I was planning on getting the XL version for myself when I heard about it, and I was going to get the regular version for my children because they like the idea of changing the face plates. Now? Well, I've pre-ordered the Majora's Mask version for myself, and that's it. The kids are happy with their current model so I'm not sure why I need to get the new one for them.
I realize it might be a better market decision but when they only showed the xl my interest in the device plummeted. I can't use the xl versions of these systems since they are so big that it is hard to put in my pocket (Kinda defeats the point of being a portable system). Also it sucks that now we are not going to get the face plates. Maybe in the future I will go get one but for right now I am sticking with my regular 3ds. A second circle pad and the one exclusive game Xenoblade is not worth it for me right now.
@ikki5 but I wasn't talking about that in that way. I'm sorry they don't own one yet but let's be a little realistic here this new system is only gonna last 2-3 more years. It is an upgrade that's all. Let's not forget the DSI. If I were to speculate like that then I would suggest buying the standard 3DS and getting over themselves because there are only going to be a few games only compatible with this system. I am sure people who are upgrading already own a 3DS which is why there is know charger (that part is ridiculous).
let me put this into perspective for those saying some of us will be "weak" and just cave in and buy the n3DSXL here in America:
Oh yes, I'm so weak in fact that I made it a point to drag my ass to the Gamestop and cancel every Nintendo related preorder I had....
Some of us actually stick to our guns. You say we'll cave but let me tell you something, I have a pretty damned good reason for not getting thr new system.
Some people want the standard size n3DS and the faceplates. Some are just as fine staying with or upgrading to the XL size.
At the end of the day it is a matter of personal preference so the rudeness being spewed is uncalled for (particularly form those opting for the XL and confused as to why others want the smaller system).
But also take into account that not every parent will be willing to spend $200+ on the nXL. And the cheapened 2DS is not necessarily an option for many due to lack of 3D if their child uses the function.
I have a young neice whom I've gotten into gaming and my old OG 3DS is perfect for her (she's 9) as she plays in 3D but doesn't like the size of my own XL. For months she has been hyped right along side me since Japan announced the new systems. I even imported the MH4G limited edition XL (let's be honest, a MH LE releasing in the US seemed all but likely) since I import Japanese games anyway. She enjoyed watching me play on it and really loved the better 3D effect. She was so enamored in fact, that she kept asking me to check if the new systems would be coming over as I had shown her pictures/video of the standard edition and its faceplates. Being a girly-girl of sorts, she liked the idea of being able to customize the system to her mood or wardrobe.
So yeah, it is disappointing to many and I had to break this news to my niece when she got home from school yesterday as she demanded I watch the Direct befors she left that morning. I can see why there might be reasoning on Nintendo's part to not release the standard size and faceplates, however limiting a consumer's choice is in no way a good move for any company. As they say, negative word of mouth can spread a lot more quickly than positive impressions as even when the wave starts off small, it soon grows larger and larger.
I resolved not to purchase the system for myself either as I would feel bad to have one and not my neice since I promised her a new system if she made Honor Roll last semester and she did. Needless to say, she was highly upset and I couldn't even give her a good answer as to why the decision was made. So while I have no problem with having an XL, it bugs the hell out of me that this is the only option which has alienated my niece. And out of respect, I'm not going to purchase a system to wave around in her face and make her feel worse given she had rightfully earned the New 3DS. Just means she and I won't be indulging in Majora's Mask, Xenoblade or Monster Hunter 4U.
Letbus also take into account that with the arrival of the new systems, the current models will undoubtedly be phased out. In the US, you can't even find an OG 3DS new anymore, so if the current XL is discontinued, that leaves us with only the 2DS and n3DSXL, pretty much cornering the market regarding their limited choices. And if Nintendo thinks the bigger size of electronics is all the American consumer wants, well then take a look at Samsung and Apple. Once Apple introduced the bigger screens of the iPhone 6 line, they were smart enough to include two sizes but many were predicting everyone would flock to the 6 Plus over the smaller size 6. A few months later, sales data will tell you that, in fact, the smaller 6 has been outselling the 6 Plus (not only because in some cases the Plus is still a little difficult to come by, but not everyone appreciates the massive size of the larger phone). Even Samsung knows not all of their consumers go for the Note line of phones which are gigantic... In short, bigger is NOT always better. I have a feeling Nintendo might end up reversing the decision if they receive enough complaints.
And let's not get us started on the lack of the AC Adapter in the new system. Knowledgeable fans may be aware that there's no charger, but what about parents that aren't? Gamestop employees may be trained to inform their customers about the missing adapter but what about Best Buy, Walmart, Target, etc? I can only imagine the outrage of parents that end up buying the XL as gifts only to find out the powersource isn't there. And the third party adapters which are commonly available aren't really an option if you want to avoid voiding your warranty on the system. The standalone official adapters are genrally only available on websites like Nintendo and Amazon but not physically present in stores (Gamestop sells a third party knockoff).
@River3636 Whats the point in buying it now then? 2-3 years? It will definitely come down in price by then and with no games except for one coming to it, there is no reason to upgrade until the price drops. The only other incentive to buy it would be the for the special editions for collectors. Another problem is other regions get the normal N3DS and it is a cheaper cost. There is only the XL here which is the more expensive one so really, there is no point to getting it now and it is better to just wait for the other one or wait for the price to drop.
Funny because I was actually considering the smaller version just because of proper resolution and portability. Even though thats not a huge deal to me though, I was reeeaally disappointed they didn't give us the metallic blue. Would've been the same color of my old GBA SP. Might get the black New 3DS XL now idk.
For me Xenoblade Chronicles
@Ikki5 I was speculating that's all.
@JaxonH No, actually the giant blown-out pixels on the XL models look far worse than the original screen. And some of us have smaller hands and the XL isn't comfortable to hold at all.
I still use my launch day 3DS HEAVILY. And though I've drooled over my friend's XL screens a time or two, it really is cumbersome to take on the go.
I've toyed with the idea of having an XL to play at home, and my original for taking to work on my commute. But of course, you can only transfer your data over a set amount of times (five, I believe?)
With Europe getting those beautiful "Ambassador" 3DS's recently, I swooned over the design, and was really hoping NOA would do something similar. I've hit platinum on Club Nintendo 4 years in a row, so I thought I would have decent chances, but this is fairly standard practice for NOA, so I should've known better than to get my hopes up.
I still love you, Reggie. I just wish you loved me more.
Why doesn't Nintendo like North America? It seems we are always the ones left out.. Why doesn't Nintendo make region free systems?
@Mommar The difference in screen size is negligible. They're both small and both show pixels. 3DS games just have pixels. And shrinking the screen down isn't going to make them disappear. On the smaller 3DS, games like Fire Emblem and DKC Returns are virtually unplayable because the characters are too small to even see properly.
Again, I get that SOME people legit prefer the smaller 3DS. Understood. My issue was that 99% of people are complaining when only 10% (or something to that effect) are known to choose the smaller over the XL
The N3DS seems like a great compromise with its still smaller size yet bigger screen. I don't give a rat's about faceplates, but I would have loved better resolution.
My xl is limping along, but showing its age and the N3DS was going to be a day one buy. If it dies before the N3DS is released I will most likely get the N3DS XL...not because it's the one I want, but it's all ninty, in their infinite wisdom, will let me get. Then they can say: See! We knew the XL is all that would sell!
To all those whinging on about others whinging: you are satisfied so everyone else should be too, right? You are all mind readers and know we only want what we can't have.
You are coming across as arrogant as nintendo.
As long as I am able to get a Majora's mask new 3dsxl, I'll be happy. For those upset by the news, you can always go to gelaskins.com and buy a custom wrap for your system. I have one on my old 3ds. It looks really cool. Unfortunately, the system is just starting to wear out after 3 years of abuse.
@AndyWARbear "upgrade to XL"
But that's exactly it. Many of us don't consider the XL to be an upgrade.
It's like this with the current 3DS systems where I live it's very hard to find a regular sized model but the XLs are everywhere I wanted the standard
version myself I own an XL currently but only because of a promotion I agree with some of the other comments in that Nintendo just saved me some money I don't want the new XL I wanted the standard size oh well I've always got my phone to game on thanks Reggie , thanks Nintendo .
I have absolutely no problem with this
I know this is wishful thinking, but I hope this means NA is going to get its own exclusive model, namely a New 2DS.
A new model of the 2DS that has all the new features of the New 3DS besides the 3D, but retains the form factor of the original 2DS.
I find it odd that Nintendo has nothing on the bottom end of the price spectrum, and if I remember correctly, the 2DS sold the best in NA.
So, maybe they are trying to work on their own budget model to be sold alongside the New 3DS XL.
To be honest, I love my 2DS over all the other models of the old 3DS, and would love to see a revised model with all the new features that the New 3DS brings to the table.
Well, I made the decision to wait and see if they release the normal sized N3DS, if they don't, then I'll probably buy the (inevitable) Xenoblade Chronicles LE
Was I surprised? Yes but only by comparison to the other regions that get both. Is it a big issue? Heck nNo. To me it's like complaining about Apple not releasing the iPhone 5c the same time as the iPhone 5s when most of the people complaining already own a iPhone 5 (or 4s).
Personally I want to normal size New 3ds but I have no reason to overreact like most of the vocal minority on the web. I still have a 3ds XL that I always play and only one game that I know of will only work on the New 3ds and that not coming till April. Who knows maybe they'll release it around the same time and maybe include a LE New 3ds to go with Xenoblade's release. When that time comes, I'll have my pre-order paid in full.
There's no harm in just waiting. Just save or save up your money until then and play some games in the meantime.
You know NOA doesn't care about the regular 3DS size when it doesn't even appear on their front page -
http://www.nintendo.com/
but the Wii Mini does appear, before the XL and 2DS models.
And if that isn't enough proof for you, it doesn't even appear on the 3DS page either:
http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/
@Caryslan High-Five That's exactly what I would REALLY want. A N2DS. I had in my possession all 3 models, and the 2DS is BY FAR my favorite. Since I don't care about 3D, for me it's the best form factor, I love how stable it is (I don't like all the wobble of the clamshell), and it's just so crisp...But I was real, there was no way a N2DS would exist, so I was ready to buy the N3DS Day 1, anything as long as its not an XL.
It seems people have forgotten that the standard 3DS is clunky and sharp. Most people upgraded to the 3DS XL due to it being better designed.
This lack of a standard new 3DS has actually driven me into not buying Majora's Mask, Xenoblade, and the expected eventual release of Final Fantasy Explorers.
Nintendo hates Americans, simple as that. They think we fatasses don't deserve the smaller model and the face plates, because it's too complicated for our "tiny minds".
Bitter as I am, I'll probably end up getting the red XL since it's not likely that they'll change their minds. UNLESS, of course, Gamestop bankrolls the standard New 3DS for NA just like they did for Xenoblade. As much as most people hate Gamestop, they're our ONLY hope in this matter.
EDIT: changed my mind, I'm not gonna get the XL. My money will be far better spent getting the Hyperdevotion Noire Limited Edition than giving Nintendo the satisfaction of thinking they were right.
As a massive fan who grew up with and supported them since the SNES era, I must say that I am not surprised at all and very disappointed. My body was so ready for the reveal that Reggie was going to give until I heard that only the XL model is making it to the US. I don't have anything against the XL model, but I wanted the standard-size New 3DS so that it can fit nicely in my pocket and that way when I want to grab something out fun in a jiff, I can reach it into my pocket and flip it open...that and I wanted the changeable faceplates feature since I thought it was neat.
I love Nintendo and I will continue to support them, but until they announce the standard-size New 3DS and bring it to store shelves, the New 3DS XL is not on my radar. However, if the XL model is the only thing they're bringing here until the end of time, the New 3DS XL isn't a Day One Buy for me.
@BLPs
In terms of Nintendo releases, it hasn't been that way entirely for quite a while now. You guys get games that we never get or that we've had to BEG for. And as far as I know, even mainstream games like Mario Kart release in Europe first nowadays. Not sure if Mario Kart 8 was different though.
Yeah I'm pretty disappointed. The thing is I prefer the 3DSXL to the 3DS, because I think the original is poorly designed, but I much prefer the New 3DS to the New 3DSXL because it fixes everything that was wrong with the original and I found the XL too big. I was so excited about this—without a doubt a first-day purchase—and now I'm just going to wait. I don't want to spend money on a new system if it's not the one I want.
I think this was brilliant. They should phase out the smaller models. They're pointless when you've got a far superior one sitting next to it and a cheaper 2DS.
@k8sMum
100% agreed with you on all points except the faceplates. I'm going to be trading in my old limited edition Zelda 3DS and was going to spray the gold designs onto the pain black face plates that the standard black New 3DS comes with.
And now I can't do that.
Between the amiibo shortage, collectors editions being in vary low supply and this, they have really alienated loyal fans. That statement is just adding insult to injury.
@ikki5 Xenoblade isn't the only reason to upgrade. Playing other games with head tracking 3D, playing Smash/Code Name Steam with Amiibo support, playing CPP compatible games without needing CPP, speeding up download and boot times, etc are all viable reasons to upgrade now
I think that the 2DS and the n3DSXL make a good pair and the smaller n3DS doesn't really have lot's of sale potential, especially with it's screens being smaller than pretty much any modern smartphone.
@Parasky
By that logic, the 2DS would be a horrible choice for consumers then as well. The 2DS screens are on par with the orignal 3DS while the standard n3DS screens are 33% bigger than the original...
And as many people have already pointed out, not everyone's hands agree with the XL's size, the 2DS obviouly doesn't have the improvements/added features of the "New" line and is certainly not pocket friendly.
In short, Nintendo's response comes across as "Big brother knows best" when in fact they don't.
Honestly, the only reason I wanted the regular size is because there was an option in white. I think the XL colors and variants are just plain ugly right now so I'll wait till a variant with brighter colors is released till I get one. Hopefully I won't have too long to wait! Maybe they'll come out with a Xenoblade NN3DSXL in blue and white....
I'm italian, and I'm frustrated nevertheless by this... move?
@Shiek
Except a Xenoblade limited edition would more likely be in red...
Fine by me. I wanted an XL anyway. And I also ordered a Majora's Mask edition, so why would I want to change the cover plate? lol!
@AVahne A girl can dream
@BinaryFragger Of those 15 million, I'm pretty sure almost all of them bought it before the XL was released, which is something that must be acknowledged.
Again, I understand some people legit wanted the normal one. Understood. My issue was that 9 out of 10 comments were complaining when only 1 of 10 would have statistically bought it.
I myself actually would have bought one too (in addition to the XL). And I too regret them not bringing it (yet, anyways). But to me that's small potatoes. So the screen size is 1" larger than someone would have preferred. I can think of worse things to be upset about. I myself am actually a tad disappointed because I wanted faceplates to collect, but again I was responding more to the fact people were complaining that wouldn't have even bought one anyways. Just complaining because they want what tey can't have.
As for DKC, yes, point well taken. But I decided to take action- bought a DSi XL and a flash cart. Problem solved. Still pisses me off that I can't play it on Wii U. Ju
@AVahne I don't think Nintendo gets any satisfaction from you buying or not buying the system. In fact, they don't know you exist. I think you're reading too deep into things here. This wasn't a personal attack on Americans, this was a business decision coming from experts whose job it is to know the best course if action to take.
@JaxonH
Mmm, I know. Sometimes I just get very irrational and go overboard. I'm just very upset that we got singled out and are given very little choices for the new revision. It doesn't help that Nintendo region locks their consoles
As others have said, I'll wait until they announce the normal size here. No hurry to upgrade now.
@JaxonH
But why do you think that only "1 out of 10" would've bought the smaller size? Usually, people express their discontent for a reason. Sure, some people might just be jumping on the bandwagon and adding to the amount complaining. But the general consensus on the internet since the systems were revealed back in August was that the smaller one had quite the potential. Some people imported to test out the systems when they came to Japan and Australia last year and a lot were more taken with the smaller size factor and said they would buy the smaller model upon official release in their respective territories. I imported from Japan an XL size while a friend imported the smaller version. Having been able to play on both sizes, the smaller system was far mor enjoyable to use compared to the cumbersome size of the XL.
In a nutshell, what works for some does not work for all. I have primarily used the XL size of Nintendo handhelds since the DSi XL came into the market years ago. Once I tested the standard n3DS, ti was a pleasant surprise and the big screen was an after thought compared to the level of comfort my hands felt.
As many others have expressed I'm really having a hard time trying to understand how having less choices is actually equal to expanding them.
That simply nonsensical statement is part of what NOA and Reggie represents.
We've been underhanded in so many things, as the platinum fiasco, and basically all of the Nintendo club reward system.
How can you base a decision on data of a system that is not representing the new update?
The New 3DS has bigger screen, customizable plates, much better ergonomics, and NOA still thinks that the old XL and old 3DS will be an indications as of how new system will perform.
NOA is going back to the old ways of a closed minded stubborn nonsensical company with absolutely no regards to customers. Because of this I jumped into Sony camp system few years ago and I'll just do the same now.
It's good that we as consumers have options, and we can make statements with our money and investments. This is something they will realize once sale numbers start to show, the XL is not going to sell as well as if they had released the normal size model.
Have you seen the custom plates being released on UK? They are simply amazing!
I went to check my petition over at change.org earlier and there are like fifteen of them now.
@ShikabaneHime13 *the
Nice going Nintendo...the only one that I would have considered was the normal-sized model because the XL is going to cost more than a 300 GB PS3 which is now $250 and comes bundled with two retail games when you buy it at most retailers now! Honestly I don't know what Nintendo of America is thinking. They are pretty much pricing most of their fans out of upgrading their 3DS. Contrary to the popular belief of most businesses money doesn't grow on trees.
Nintendo's reasoning is very clear.
Now can somebody explain to me who or what this "Nintendo" is?
@JaxonH I get that, but some people just like to have a small 3DS, good for being very portable, and sometimes, it can a bid harder to bring your 3DS XL somewhere then your small 3DS.
@Neko_Rukiafan $200 is standard pricing for handhelds. That's not just Nintendo, that's any handheld.
GameStop is offering $80 for old 3DS models, $100 for XL. That's the way to go if money is an issue.
@JaxonH
that's what i want to do, but doing that wont allow me to transfer my digital data over
@ShikabaneHime13 OK, given that some truly were planning on getting the regular one, ok. But it's the intensity of the complaint too, making a mountain out if a molehill.
I mean, ok, ya it sucks. A person wanted the normal and they can only buy XL. Life is so hard isn't it lol... So they gotta buy a system without faceplates and a slightly larger screen. Life goes on.
But In reading comments of people saying they're gonna stop playing Nintendo over this. Like, really? Entitled much? I mean, other regions get different stuff all the time. Sure it still sucks but it ain't THAT big a deal. The new 3DS IS STILL COMING TO AMERICA. sure, the system is larger by an inch, boo hoo. Idk, this kids stuff just isn't a big deal.
I wanted the XL. But, had they announced no XL, just the normal 3DS, I woulda said "eh that sucks, oh well" and bought the normal one. Cause seriously, we're talking a difference of 1 inch and people are acting like this ruins their life
Both models have been developed and should be released in North America. This is the worst decision they have made in as long as I can remember, a real slap in the face for all Nintendo fans in that region.
@JaxonH
so, by your logic then, a consumer should just take whatever life throws at them? So I'm just supposed to tell my neice, who was thoroughly excited about the smaller system, "Oh well, honey, your comfort and preference doesn't matter. Either take the large one or stick with your old outdated model"?
No. Just because "you" and other individuals are fine with the XL doesn't mean everyone is. What you are saying ends up coming across as, "Well, I've got what I want, so sucks to be you if your preferneces are different from mine."
My neice, as I stated in an earlier post, cannot use the XL as it isn't comfortable for her and the 2DS is not an option as she games in 3D just like I do. And she carries her system (on OG 3DS that I gave her) with her everywhere in her jacket/coat pocket and an XL doesn't fit in her pockets. "I" have no problem with the XL and wouldn't mind purchasing one. But why would I want my neice, whom I promised an n3DS if she made honor roll, to feel left out if the XL size is incompatible for her? For that reason, I opted not to get the XL because the lack of choice doesn't benefit my neice.
Just one man's opinion but you have to wonder about the position Nintendo are in to sell more 3DS models. Supposedly The N3DS release was staggered in EU/US because they hadn't quite reached market saturation for the last models. It's only been a couple of months since the AU release - what, suddenly now everybody in the US finally has an old 3DS? It just feels like Nintendo are holding back the smaller model. It's kinda sad/scary if they feel it wouldn't sell (true or not). Maybe the whole N3DS thing is before its time?
If they don't release the smaller model, I'm not getting one.
Bla bla bla....a stupid move is a stupid move no matter how hard you try to justify it.
NOA probably makes a killing on the Special Edition XL's. Interchangeable faceplates could bite into that.
Changeable faceplates, Nintendo. You forgot to factor-in the allure of those changeable faceplates. THAT was going to be a huge draw and an important deciding factor for customers in the West.
I still prefer the larger 3DS but I imagine those faceplates would have swayed other XL owners.
This decision means one thing only to me: no buy. I have a 3DS XL that I upgraded to from my original 3DS, and though I do like it very much I have come to appreciate the smaller form factor of the original. I also thought the exchangeable face plates are really appealing. So I'll stick with my current XL for now.
Aside from that, great Direct! Good stuff overall.
@JaxonH
"A person wanted the normal and they can only buy XL. Life is so hard isn't it lol..."
It's funny you should say that. Without getting into specifics, the circumstances of my life happen to be such that I'm pretty much constantly hurting, emotionally speaking - and I have no options to change that. Things like video games... For me, they're essentially one of a few things in my life that distract me, take my focus off of the real stuff, allowing me to function from day to day. Since I happen to have no options in the important stuff, it's important to me to at least sometimes have the option to get what I'm hoping for in the not so important stuff - especially, mind you, when every other region is already getting it.
As for my decision to sever the tie with Nintendo over it? First, it's not just because of this latest issue. And second, I'm a consumer - I'm entitled to choose to stop buying from any company for any reason; just as Nintendo is entitled to offer or withhold anything they want from us. What I'm doing isn't a boycott (for one thing, Nintendo hardly cares about one person's decision); it's just a choice - their products no longer matter to me.
I'm not criticizing your feelings on the matter; please don't make light of mine. We all have a right to make any choice as a consumer, for any reason that happens to matter to us.
I was only interested in the smaller size... That's disappointing.
I feel like I'm literally the only one who doesn't care about the smaller n3ds, I just want metallic blue in NA. Then again I seem to always have a contrary opinion from the rest of nintendolife, so whatever, excuse me while I play meme run
@ShikabaneHime13 Well, there's nothing we can do about it so it is what it is, know what I mean? Ya, your niece has a legit reason for wanting ones we all have our reasons. But such is life. We don't always get exactly what we want. No sence getting in a tiff about something you have no control over.
I wanted free online on my PS4, and backward compatibility, and DKC on Wii u VC, and offline Destiny, and God Eater 2 Vita localization, and net-based NNID's, and more than 3 PS4/X1 exclusives that aren't on last gen systems during their first year, and a ton of other things. Ya, it sucks not getting what you want. But that's gonna happen in video games, all the time actually. You make the best of it and move on. The current 3DS still works fine, still plays 3DS games fine.
Worst case scenario you have to buy an Amiibo adapter. There are worse things I can think of than that, wouldn't you agree?
I really don't care, I want the black XL. I'm never going back to regular size Nintendo systems and the red version looks pretty feminine to me.
@Rocky2418 By all means, do as you wish. It's not going to affect me or my enjoyment of video games. Now, do I see the logic in forfeiting roughly half of the funnest games in the industry all over a 3DS that's an inch wider than you want it to be? Absolutely not. To me, it's all about the games. I wouldn't care if I had to play them on a PocketPDF- as long as I can continue to play these games I enjoy so much, I'm happy. Nothing is worth cheating yourself out of a fun game, much less two entire platforms' worth. But, as I said. It's not my life- you do whatever you so wish. Game how every you please.
@JaxonH even if only 10% of us would choose the standard version, that's still a huge number of sales. How many new 3ds XLs will be sold in the states? A million, 2 million? I have no idea, but I know 10% of that is going to be many thousands of lost sales. It doesn't makes sense to me, Nintendo is just walking away from their customers.
@Funbunz Again, and I've said this like 4 times now. I understand SOME people legit wanted the system. I get that's that's fine. My comment was reflecting the fact that most people who were complaining wouldn't even have bought it- ergo, they just like to complain about anything negative they can dig up. As well as the intensity of the complaints- as if a system being 20-30 mm wider than what a person "would have preferred" is something to be spazzing out over. Disappointment I can understand. Rage rants by a majority of those who wouldn't have even bought it? Not so much.
I just grow tired of meaningless complaints-
We don't want remakes we want new IP. Nintendo announced Code Name STEAM. But we wanted Majora's Mask!
We want Majora's Mask. Nintendo announces Majora's Mask. Why all the remakes!
Nintendo offers new3DS Ambassador program. We're gonna wait for the XL. Nintendo announces XL. But we don't want the XL!
Kirby Rainbow Curse plays on Gamepad. We don't wanna play on that low res screen! Nintendo releases Wii VC. But we wanna play on the low res screen!
It just never stops. No matter what happens people complain. No matter what. They go with A people complain they want B. They go with B people complain they want A. And it's always end of the world, my life is a tragic story type complaints too.
@JaxonH
Yes, and heaven forbid something should ever happen to her system in the future, right? If for some reason it were to stop working, then what?
And this amiibo adapter you mention... Last I checked, that wasn't covered in the Nintendo Direct. In fact, the adapter hasn't been mentioned even once since E3.
In the long run, please stop trying to tell me and others to get over it. You're getting the XL, so why are you so concerned about those of us that would like a different option? I have only pointed the reasoning as to "why" others would want the alternative size system. It's not like I (or others) are saying, "Well, if we can't have the small size, then don't release the system at all."
In the end, "you" are getting what "you" want. Yes, the gaming market as a whole is not always fair to its consumers, but I'll be damned if you are going to be outright rude to me and the others and tell me my desires are insignificant and unwarranted.
And FYI, there is something we can do about it for those of us unsatisfied by the decision: Make our voices heard directly to Nintendo. Online petitions don't work, we all know this. But when I called the Nintendo Customer Service today to leave feedback about my concerns on the matter, the rep stated that I wasn't the only one as they have recieved calls nonstop regarding the smaller n3DS since yesterday as well as a crap ton of emails. So something can be done about it, thank you. And while a reversal on the decision might not come immediately, there is no doubt that Nintendo will see and hear that their choice was a poor one.
Thank you and have a blessed day
That's just a terrible business decision, not giving any decision? You can't just assume it won't sell. The faceplates alone can boost the standard New 3ds market and the size adjustment is just right between standard and xl to make us want it more. Hope you have a mind change soon, before the xl market lowers.
Plus, the only reason the xl sold better in the past was because it was the only one with LE consoles and had the most color variety. The standard New 3ds can help with the faceplates because us gamers are given the opportunity to customize it with are favorite ones. People continuously spending to collect, enjoy, and market up the New 3ds, sounds like a good market, but all I hear are senseless excuses to not sell it. If the market isn't too high, well you already have the stud to boost it, so boost it!
Hope NoA has a mind change soon...
@ShikabaneHime13 If you think I was being rude my apologies. Not my intentions.
As for your question about if something happened to her system- idk, buy another one. Same thing anyone would do if a system quit working. They'll be available for a long time. Just cause they're no longer being produced doesn't mean stock won't be floating around for quite a while. And there's always 3rd party listings on Amazon and eBay (eBay is a great place to shop provided it's not a collectors edition item). But most importantly, I'm not convinced the normal new3DS isn't coming. I just think it's not coming NOW. figure they rushed manufacturing to get these out the door, and later they'll add the other to the market. Maybe, maybe not, but the old original ones will definitely be available if you look around.
@BinaryFragger
That is certainly the hope from many of us. As I stated, I called DIRECTLY as that seemed a better opportunity to get my voice heard by an actual person. The rep said Nintendo closely monitors consumer feedback and with the volume of feedback they have received since yesterday somoneone higher up is bound to notice and there is a likely chance our voices could change the decision at some point. It might not be an immediate change, but it ends up being better than sitting around moping as we twiddle our thumbs in anger.
If anyone would like to call Nintendo directly and request to leave feedback, here's the number: 1-800-255-3700 (Note: Press 0 twice when promted to be taken straight to a live rep)
@JaxonH you're absolutely right about the fact that no matter what Nintendo does, people complain. I get tired of reading complaints, too. But this time it affects ME! Rage White standard Rage fury. Lol, I will quit complaining now and move on with my life. Thanks!
Oh well. Saves me money. I'll rough it until the next-gen handheld releases.
@Funbunz Honestly I was planning on picking up a normal sized new3DS also. And I was actually kind of bummed myself. But, then I remembered that at least a new3DS XL is coming, and it's coming in less than a month, and that made me not really care about the other. As long as some form of new3DS makes it west so that I can play with Amiibo support, a 2nd analog, better 3D and faster booting/download times, I'm happy. 4" screen, 3" screen, whatever. Just so long as it plays games and has the new features.
And, there's a Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate Limited Edition. Nuff said.
@JaxonH
Indeed, it's just a case of "to each his own," and I appreciate you understanding that. I assure you, I'll always find things I enjoy doing. I wish you the best in enjoying the New XL.
@Rocky2418 You as well.
I'm so pissed! The no plug thing is "whatever." I'm tired of talking about that. But not having a white standard size not coming to NA? Can we get an XL version of it then since that what you seems to only want to sell? Jeez Nintendo of America... I know I'm NOT getting the New 3DS anymore because that.
I was recently at a con in Ohio and it was XLs, XLs as far as the eye could see. In the US you wouldn't even know they make a regular 3DS.
I'm not planning on upgrading mine any time soon but best of luck to those who are.
Things I don't understand
1) Why Nintendo have done this. Another awful decision from them.
2) Why Nintendo has allowed things in the States to get to the stage where fans in what is consistently the territory that supports Nintendo best are so disenchanted with Nintendos 'expert' decision making.
3) The arrogant rudeness of posters dismissing people's disappointment out of hand. Sample quotes - "Who cares. Most people wouldn't have bought it anyways." "Consumers are like small children". "They should phase out the smaller models. They're pointless when you've got a far superior one sitting next to it ". The utterly illogical "You must've never wanted a New 3DS at all, if only having the XL available at launch is a deal-breaker." "Entitled, much?" (Well yes actually. Very much so). Some very poor and disappointing stuff on this thread.
@Funbunz
But people should be complaining. Not just to Nintendo but any business that doesn't provide a satisfactory product. Letting companies know that you're not happy is actually much more valuable information than just quietly witholding your cash and spending it elsewhere. The right to complain is one of the most valuable rights a consumer has.
Guess NOA doesn't want my money. I'll stick with my old 3ds XL, I wanted the new smaller one.
@JaxonH They're not unplayable because I play them all the time. The blown out pixels on the larger screens expose the fact the 3DS does not do aliasing and it looks order of magnitude worse. It isn't making a mountain out of a mole-hill either. That giant XL is not comfortable for many people to hold. That isn't a minor complaint for a handheld console, that's pretty much the biggest complaint you can have. It's not like they've made one system and we just have to deal. Look around the rest of the plant, the other option is available and we've just been told we can't have it. That's a big difference.
@Sakura Honestly, their probably isn't much of a demand. I mean, you might think there is but you have to realize that everyone on this website are in the minority. The general populace have no idea there was another, smaller version of the New 3DS
@drewber2635
If I may interject here just to point out something: The XL has outsold the smaller model in ALL territories. The New 3DS XL outsells its smaller cousin in Japan, so why bother having the option in that market? The current XL has outsold the original 3DS in Europe and Australia, so why bother to offer the smaller model in these areas of the market?
The stance so many of us are taking is : What makes the US so different compared to the other territories that only we end up without both sizes? The issue for those whom are upset is that we are being denied the option when the same statistics the decision was based on is true for all the regions. Heck, by comparison, Europe and Australia don't even perform sales-wise on the same level as Japan or North America (the second highest Nintendo market) and the presence of Nintendo marketing in both EU and AUS is slim in comparison as well.
As for the demand? Yes, the degree of consumers that prefer the smaller model will no doubt be eclipsed by XL owners but there is still a demand regardless, no matter how small.
Yes, the casual consumer won't be informed right off the bat either about the missing SKU, but many consumers are also now taking the time to research products before blindly buying them. A parent may go into Best Buy, see the system and decide to do a web search later to determine if they want to get it for their child. And that is where the negative stance regarding lack of the small model could come to light. Say a someone left feedback saying they liked the system but were disappointed the small model was not offered. Bing! That brings to the parent's attention that there was an option for a different size. It could create a ripple effect and the parent looks up information out of curiosity and comes across more information regarding the differences. Granted this is a lot of IFs and pure conjecture on my part, I just want to use that example to say that today's consumers aren't as ill-informed or the sporadic shoppers you may think they are. Some do make impulse purchases, but when the cost of livng and luxuries is on the rise, many are going to consider their options before making outright purchases.
And given what a Nintendo rep I spoke with on the phone today said, a LOT of people have been calling and emailing them about the exclusion of the smaller model. So the decision could change. It sucks for us that both won't be available at launch (unless Nintendo works some sort of miracle in 29 days if they change their minds) but we can hope our voices are heard and the smaller one comes out eventually. As consumers, we shouldn't have to "settle".
@Mommar I know everyone has different opinions, I was just giving mine, there's no denying the image does improve with a slightly smaller screen, but I discovered with DKC, when he blasts into the background, it was so tiny I literally couldn't discern what was happening on the screen. Same issue with Fire Emblem and the grid. In any case, I don't want you thinking I was saying you don't have a right to want the normal one, or that you don't have a right to be upset about it. I was just floored with the excessive complaining. I would expect 10-30% of users (users who actually were planning to upgrade, which is probably only 50% of members here) to voice dissatisfaction. I've seen it beore- many times people only want something the minute they can't have it. Like, person A was interested in the normal one, but was going to choose the XL for the bigger screen. But soon as they said it's XL only, person A gets it in his/her mind that that's the best one, and that's the one they REALLY wanted. Know what I mean? I totally respect the fact that you like the smaller screen better. I actually did too, until certain games were hindered by the size.
And make no mistake, I was gonna pre order the normal one myself (in addition to the XL). It sucks, ya, but whatever. Besides, I'm sure that it'll release a couple months later anyways.
So, so lame. I do not want an XL.
Sorry, I don't mean to be rude. I'm just so massively disappointed that my level of reasoning has gone down a bit.
Nintendo, if you're reading this, please understand that there is a market for the standard sized N3DS. More people than just me feel betrayed by you not releasing the standard model in North America. Please fix it
@Wilford111 Its fine. I know there are people like you that are genuine about wanting it.
Well this is a complete turn-off for me.
For one, they aren't selling the one model that I was planning on buying at launch. I wanted the smaller version; the big one isn't as portable, doesn't look as nice, and the old 3DS XL hurt my eyes more than the regular 3DS. (coming from a person with 20/20 vision)
For another thing, even if I did want to buy the XL (which I don't and will not), I'd want the metallic blue version. Every DS I have bought (except for the original DS) has been a blue of some sort. I had a blue DS lite, a metallic blue DSi, and an aqua blue 3DS, as well as a blue 3DS XL (which I was planning on trading in).
In short, I'm POed and Nintendo isn't getting my money.
I preordered the monster hunter New 3DS XL so it's a moot point for me. Too bad the faceplates aren't made for the larger version.
I was planning on getting the XL version anyway but it still sucks for people who wanted the regular version.
I already bought faceplates including the suede kyogre japanese ones. I won't be buying a new 3ds until the standard comes out, or I'll be importing a UK version and importing all my games from now on. The idea of being able to change the look of my system is brilliant. Very stupid move on NOA's part.
i was going to buy 2 white n3dses(for me and my daughter) at launch and planned to buy a limited edition xl later on if there was an awesome one. Now I won't buy any system from Nintendo. And I stopped buying games too. I was really mad at Nintendo, and I still am, albeit at a lesser level. I'm sticking to my resolve. I bought so many systems and games including digital games from them, which all came to an uprupt stop because of their stupid decision to leave us out in NA. Man, I am saving a lot of money and am currently totally satisfied by playing my huge backlog of games. And any future games i may buy will all be used ones. I think Nintendo broke me of my addiction to throw money at them. THANKS NINTENDO!!!
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