It's no secret to those that frequent these pages or that browse the 3DS and Wii U eShop stores on a regular basis, but Nintendo is now open and supportive of all kinds of developers. That's come about through a consistent loosening of its publication rules, making it easier for studios and even one-person companies to bring their games to Nintendo hardware.
Nintendo's Ed Valiente took the chance at the Italian Game Developers Summit to make clear just how accessible the stores can be. No doubt as a counterpoint to Microsoft's parity policy, he said the following to confirm that Nintendo doesn't insist on being among the first platforms for a title, which is certainly on show with various download ports making their way to Wii U, in particular.
There is no exclusivity or parity clause. We understand that small teams can’t work on multiple platforms at once. If you want to release on other platforms first, we’re happy for you to bring it to the platform when you’re ready.
Of course, we’d like it on ours at the same time but it’s not a dealbreaker.
The next section is particularly relevant for fans of The Binding of Isaac, at least from a PAL perspective. Edmund McMillen — one half of Team Meat — saw the title rejected by Nintendo, with the stated reason being that its religious content led to it being denied release. That was back in 2012, when Nintendo still accepted or rejected concepts and content based upon its own policies. Valiente, however, has stated that if you have an age rating, that's good enough.
There’s no concept approval, either. People often think ‘Nintendo’s not going to like this so they won’t let us release it’. But if you want to release your game on our platform and it gets a rating by PEGI or USK, you can do that.
Publisher Nicalis is currently bringing The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth to various platforms and is naturally obtaining ratings, so if this policy applies in North America in addition to PAL regions it could come to Wii U, for example. In actual fact, Nicalis has been teasing just that online in recent weeks.
As a final point, Valiente also explained the well-known policy change that developers can now register even when working from home, though it's still a different process for releasing games in Japan.
If you have a lockable space where you can keep your dev kit locked, you can actually work from home. That also means you can work remotely, so if you’ve got a coder in one city, an artist in another city, a sound designer in another country, you can get approved as a team.
By signing up with us you can release in Europe and America. If you want to release in Japan, you have to have an office in Japan, because you have to provide customer service in Japanese. Or you can go through local publishers there – there are three or four that will take Western games over to the Japanese eShop.
Are you pleased with these policies, and do you hope to see more titles like Binding of Isaac come to Nintendo systems? Let us know in the comments below.
Thanks to Ryan Millar for the heads up.
[source develop-online.net]
Comments 68
Good stuff, Ninty.
That's really great! If Binding of Isaac comes to Wii U, I'll finally get to play it. I have other systems that can play it already, but I rarely play games on them anymore. Wii U would be perfect!
Also, these policies seem so... Polite! I nearly expected apologies for any possible inconvenience.
I just want good games and don't care how or why we get them. Make it happen people!
Oh and the eshop quality is getting darn close to retail quality and in some cases surpassing a lot of them!
Nintendo is so rad for opening the doors to indie developers the way they have. Just another reason they are my favorite gaming company. <3
Now that's more like it, Nintendo.
Good don't let the minority ruin it for the majority.
No doubt its a step in right direction. More games is always good thing.
This is why Nintendo would always be on top they published both Bayonetta games so that must be why they changed their mind about religious content. Sure they look completely different from what people normally picture them. Or Nintendo just cares that much about indies
"do you hope to see more titles like Binding of Isaac come to Nintendo systems?"
Not at all. I love indie games, but I don't want to see the eshop littered with insulting, even racist, games. I still agree with their policy of rejecting games with religious content. It's simply too touchy a subject.
Can't wait to play Binding of Isaac so I can watch Miiverse light up in sacrilegious and gay posts. Because that is the worst thing that could happen!
@TrueWiiMaster
Part of accepting different ideals and religions, is allowing them to be seen/discussed in the first place. Censorship will not fix anything.
Having more games isn't always better when the eShop is turning into the App Store. Good games are buried under all the garbage.
As for games with controversial themes, it's fine as long as they're handled maturely. I have no respect for people who just aim for shock value (like blood and nudity in current TV shows).
Just because indie developers are "free" to put any game on the eShop doesn't mean they will do it.
Third parties are free to release any game on the Wii U as well.
How is that working out so far?
@ZeroZX_Dev
I'm not against discussion, but there's a difference between discussion and insult. Discussion should be respectful.
I'm against censorship, but keeping this game off the eshop wouldn't be censorship. The game would still be available to pretty much anyone with a PC less than 10 years old, after all.
"Of course, we’d like it on ours at the same time but it’s not a dealbreaker."
Maybe it's not a dealbreaker for them, but its getting that way for me. Rayman delayed, W_D delayed, Project Cars delayed. I understand small indies have limited resources but if you have enough resources to make a game on 4 or 5 consoles at once then 1 more shouldn't be an issue.
Games that get updated, like Keflings seems to have done by including the 3 DLC packs and upgrading the graphics a bit, same for Paper Monsters Uncut, I'm ok with a late release thats staggered. Sony and MS systems don't always get the games at the same time either, but when it's 4 at once and 1 Wii U that's delayed, that's not good.
I want to see an eshop update to Intellivision Lives. I think that in the bad old DSi store days, it was rejected for looking too old and stinking up the store, and possibly something about not wanting emulators other than Nintendo's own. I'd love for it to make a return.
I swear religion gets in the way of too many things.
@Hero-of-WiiU I'm guessing you don't know a single thing about Binding of Isaac.
Bring 'em on.
So Nintendo is changing its own policies? That's awesome!
now if they can make it so that out account data like activity logs or eshop stuff be in PC's........
@ZeroZX_Dev amen
Very sensible by Nintendo. Great news.
I hate Binding of Isaac. I heard that the owner made it because he hated christianity.
Good for Nintendo, these sound like fair, honest policys, much better than the ones used on Wiiware and DSiWare
Good to hear this. In the last 12 months I have bought tons of indie games, and I love several of them (Scram Kitty, Armillo, Shovel Knight, Siesta Fiesta, etc.) so I like this policy.
I love Binding of Issac, but I do think its rather pointless that they decided to go with a religious theme. The gameplay has nothing to do with religion, its just the story. That trailer for Rebirth was just trying to be controversial in general with the dancing naked people singing "JESUS LOVES YOU'. There's really no reason they had to go that religious route. Regardless, I still find the game fun
@TrueWiiMaster go sit in timeout.
@The_Ninja you too. Timeout.
I think all it says is "Some people use religion to justify doing terrible things always." I like stuff like that in games.
I'm getting an itch to make a console game instead of just mobile. If only time allowed. This is encouraging as I might hit a Nintendo console day someday — or year.
I'm currently exploring the idea of Metroid meets Minecraft at a very early stage. (Obviously not using the actual IPs!) I've been using the Unity engine for years and have exactly one published mobile game under my belt but I have other work to pay bills and two kids so project time is sparsely scattered about.
And back to actual Minecraft with my son...
@rjejr
That's what we have to deal with on Wii U. It's just not the most popular platform though it easily the best for my family right now. Oops back to minecraft! lol
@TrueWiiMaster
It doesn't matter if its available elsewhere, thats still censorship. You personally find it offensive, but you don't want it available to others either. You contradicted yourself.
Never heard of Binding of Isaac but anything that makes more games available is great.
Would love Plants vs Zombies 1 and 2 and Orcs Must Die!
@aaronsullivan - "Oops back to minecraft! lol"
Yeah, my kids still either play Minecraft every day - mods on PC and couch co-op on PS3 - or watch youtube videos about it. They were super excited about the new Stage Builder in SSB U, and they really want Mario Maker, so at least Nintnedo is chipping away at the need for kids to be creative. Nothing to match LBP3 though which we are all looking forward too. 16 layers is insane.
You decipher Disney Infintiy 2.0 yet? Skylanders in Jan. for us on the Wii U. I'm a big Sony fan since 97 and FF7 but I'm really not impressed by the PS4. Someday, but at least a year away. Maybe 2 if Zelda and XCX both release around holiday 2015.
Nintendo Rocks!
@rjejr I miss your Aya Ueto Avatar!
I think by all means games like Binding of Isaac should be there. I wouldn't play it but I'm all for freedom of expression. I'd also like more games to release that can have interracial and even homosexual themes (as long as they are fun and don't hit your head over them too much).
Too many indie games I've played have had capitalizim over/undertones so a change of pace and more variety would be good for the industry as an art form.
@Zombie_Barioth
Not quite. I specifically said that the game is available to pretty much everyone with a computer, and I'm okay with that. Like most hateful material, I would personally prefer if it didn't exist (at least not as it is) but I would never try to ban it. That would be censorship. Wanting to keep a specific store from carrying insulting, hateful, and/or generally offensive material is not censorship.
Also, this isn't just because I'm personally offended by the game. I would be against any hateful game coming to the eshop, even if it had nothing to do with my beliefs. I'd prefer to keep the eshop a fairly friendly place.
@Hero-of-WiiU Wow, I never realised that. I think you're right!!!
Great, hopefully this will make Nintendo seem slightly less restrictive, and make them more open.
Congrats, 'tendo, only took you 'round about thirty years! It's gonna take a while to shake that obtuse enforced family-friendliness reputation, and some people are never going to let it go, but this is definitely a step in the right direction.
@rjejr You know what's funny? Disney Infinity 2.0 is the only game making me think about PS4 right now. Bigger Toy Box, better resolution, etc. No money for such things though. I think I went past my return date for what I already have on DI 2.0 so my indecision sorted that one out. (Kinda wish they'd just embrace PC fully)
Nintendo ought to be out front with all the creative game making for consumers honestly. Everyone thinks they are the place for kids and they are the most enthusiastic customers for that sort of thing.
Seems to me the Good is only getting better. Your on a roll Nintendo!
Being more friendly to developers can only lead to good things! Bring on Binding of Isaac as I have been wanting that game for quite some time!
I'd love to play Binding of Isaac on the Wii U. I have the game on Steam but playing a game on a console will always beat my laptop imo~
Nice Nintendo
@TrueWiiMaster
Its still a from of censorship though. You personally find it it objectionable, thats a you problem. Rather than just voting with your wallet and not buying it, your trying to keep it off the store so nobody else can either, therefore your taking it upon yourself to decides whats best for everyone.
I just think its best to let the ratings board do its job, thats what its there for after all, and allow people to make up their own mind, rather than shut it down entirely. "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to my death your right to say it" as the saying goes.
@Zombie_Barioth
You could argue that, but it's hard to say something's censored when it's almost universally available, as BoI is. Whether the game's on the Wii U/3DS or not, the vast majority of people have access to it. It's not censorship when you can easily get it, but not on your device of choice.
I'm not going to pretend to know what's best for other people. As I said, I prefer a friendly eshop, and want it to remain free of hateful content. That's not me telling others what to play. It's just me wanting a friendly eshop. I don't care what you play.
"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to my death your right to say it"
I agree. That's why I said I wouldn't be interested in banning material like BoI. People should have the right to expression, even if it's insulting or hateful. That right doesn't include the right to be in private stores like the eshop, though.
But it's not insulting/hateful to everyone. So why should your worldview dictate where works are released?
I am glad they are opening up the eShop, but I fear it may be a case of too little, too late. This should have been the policy from day one, not almost two years into the consoles existence when most developers lost interest.
But at least, if anything, there will be some new content to the eShop. Although they will still have to deal with the limitations of the 8 GB console.
it probably is coming to wii u.
i hope it does and it pisses people off.
@TrueWiiMaster
From a business standpoint, no, but outside of that, yes, it certainly can. If Nintendo wants an open policy though they have to, unless they want to single out games they personally don't agree with.
But hey, we see eye to eye anyway.
@Aviator
It's very clear that this game targets Christians and Jews, and I don't think Nintendo should allow any content that insults a group based on their race, religion, etc.
"Are you pleased with these policies, and do you hope to see more titles like Binding of Isaac come to Nintendo systems?"
Am I pleased that Nintendo is being more lenient, thus encouraging developers to release games for their systems? Yes!
Do I hope to see more blatantly anti-Christian titles that are trying too hard to be controversial? No.
I am looking forward to seeing some of the excellent games that are out there coming to my preferred platform and my favorite system to collect for. I do think it is a little sad that the Nintendo Seal of Quality ship has officially made it to the open waters. I think it's interesting to consider the cultural differences between the NES era and now. I'm going to guess a lot of that has to do with the ERSB and the open, Wild West mobile markets creeping into our expectations. The price of some great games being some terrible and objectionable ones at times. But I think this is a positive move for Nintendo as a company.
@andrea987 So humble!
@Mecha_Boo Same.
Its because the developers cant tolerate the belief of others (part is the dev team members attitude too...) and feel they are perfect and mock everything they seem pointless.
This whole conversation reminds me of a comedy show I went to see called "Christ on a Bicycle". It was a show that used religion as a jumping off point (much like his others on other topics such as Mortality) to make his jokes and fuel his comedic routines.
And would you know it, a load of Christian busybodies heard about the show and decided to follow his tour and picket the venues declaring to everyone that the show was sinful despite the fact that there was nothing in the show that really attacked Christians.
"I hate Binding of Isaac. I heard that the owner made it because he hated christianity."
I'm not a practicing Christian, and only I have the right to choose whether I can play this game or not. As it happens, my Brother gifted me it on steam (shortly after the Niclas WiiU teaser), so I probably won't be buying it on the WiiU.
@Aviator It is a fine line though. Just because something doesn't offend everybody ever (because that would be impossible) doesn't mean that it is a good idea for a product to be placed in every store front (which I feel is the real reason that Nintendo went on their censorship spree back in the 90s). Games are a mass produced product, sure they have some artistic influence but in the end they are designed (mostly unless it is a game like depression quest) to turn a profit. That is why the Hatred is getting such backlash. That being said both storefront and creator have to have some awareness of this. Otherwise we run the risk of floods of "games" that are really just someone's personal soapbox.
I'm not saying that games should be limited (taking the binding of Issac example, I'm not a Christian and I view all religion as mythology anyway so I really don't care if it is the binding of Issac or the binding of Prometheus) but I do feel that some devs loose sight of the fact that at the end of the day (despite all the blood, sweat and tears) they are making a product for public consumption. There is a reason why the big devs don't make games that push the envelope very often and they have some of the most creative minds in the industry working for them.
Also, what is up with all the bots?
@aaronsullivan - "better resolution"
When either of my kids tell me they want a game on a specific console based on "resolution" or "frame rate" I'm telling them they're old enough to live on their own now and kicking them out my the house.
@rjejr Haha. Yeah, it's more for me. The larger Toy Box and less stuttering (I'm assuming) would be more enjoyable to play around with.
I'm glad that Nintendo is becoming more open in Europe. This is making me more likely to get into game development.
Nintendo is in need for third party support games on Wii U. Bringing in indies is definitely the way to go.
After shedding light on Nintendo's eShop policies, I thought I'd bring to mind the Wii U vs Gamecube sales data.
In six years, the GC pushed 21 million systems.
In a third of that time (less than a third), Nintendo has sold around 7 million Wii Us.
So very comparable.
Though, this time next year, it may be more favorable to compare the Wii U to the N64. With Mario Party's HD debut, Splatoon, the beautifully crafted Yoshi's Wooly World, Smash Bros., Zelda, Star Fox and highly anticipated Xenoblade Chronicles X (which has the original's fans buzzing, Zone of the Enders fans buzzing and Xenogears / Xenosaga fans buzzing) the Wii U may yet turn the corner.
May being the key term.
Bayonetta 2 has sold systems. How many? Likely not as much as Platinum would have liked. But it's a sign that a game like Smash U could have a significant impact.
At both Amazon Canada and Best Buy Canada, video game sales have been strong for the brawler and enthusiasm for Amiibo is optimistic. In fact, on Amazon.ca, the title has now lead more days this month than all other titles combined (22 days at number 1). Currently, number 2 is Smash 3DS.
@MikeLove: Awesome icon, & username.
@ogo79: " its a modern game" What do mean, by that? An indie game, or what? I'm just curious, that's all.
@Darknyht: "...but I fear it may be a case of too little, too late." Unless this policy changes before this Nintendo console, &/or handheld gen ends, the next console, &/or handheld from Nintendo will begin it's life(span) w/ this policy. I guess it all depends on how this turns out for Nintendo.
@TrueWiiMaster: More over time, I see some gamers separating a game's theme from gameplay, &/or subtle context. It's kinda like Metroid Other M, as an example; I've never played it, but I've heard that the gameplay was not necessarily great, but decent, & that ultimately, the story was what totaled that game, or that @ least was the main, & common criticism of the game. Another example of gameplay vs. theme would be Senran Kagura Burst: The gameplay may, or may not be a decent side-scroller, while the theme is supposed to be erotic anime, or @ least provocative anime.
I have no interest in a game that outright proactively mocks my faith, or Judaism. While BoI's gameplay may be decent, or better, the game's theme is the turn-off for me. I find the theme, & therefore the game itself, as offensive as you do. I also feel that the game does a worse thing to Christianity, & Judaism. True, on some levels, ppl could say it's satire, while others could, & would seriously take away some of the context, satire, or not, as how those faiths really are, & act. Sadly, Christianity, & Judaism are the faiths most likely to get a bad rap, b/c there have been, are, & will always be ppl that claim to follow those faiths, even though they really don't, &/or they use the stating, &/or claiming of their faith for horrendous acts, as UnrandomSam(comment #29) said above. Make no mistake, however, this "I'm a (insert faith)" happens to all faiths, which contributes to giving them a bad name.
Nintendo will let it get put on the e-Shop, if they see profits to be made from such a move. After all, they're going to try to make money like any co. does. Edit: By contrast, Nintendo also was heavy-handed against games containing any religious context, or imagery in the 80's, & 90's; they also would not license the Wisdom Tree games, although those games weren't exactly the best in my opinion. Ironically, there were actually a load of Nes games that slipped through Nintendo's radar(mostly religiously oriented content) during that time. Edit: http://www.jjmccullough.com/Nintendo.php
Hey guys, the story of the Binding of Isaac also falls under Islamic faith. Let's talk about all three.
@cfgk24 - She's a beautiful happy girl, I finally decided its not right that she be associated with an old curmudgeon like myself. Mitch Miller can handle the abuse.
This is great news! But the only thing I want is an account system to let me download all my eshop titles to both my 3ds!
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