The ‘Gotta Catch ‘Em All' slogan has become a thing of the past due to the endless trading that one would have to do to achieve this feat in modern Pokémon games. Conquering this monstrous goal would require one to possess Nintendo’s evolutionary chain of hardware systems, as well as copies of several games throughout the franchise’s rich history. It’s a tremendous effort (unless you’re fortunate enough to have friends willing to aid you in your quest or get very lucky trading online), and so this target has been overlooked by many.
Nonetheless, producer Junichi Masuda and director Shigeru Ohmori have now explained that getting your hands on all 719 of these critters is not as Farfetch'd as it used to be, as this is achievable within just the Hoenn and Kalos regions. Here’s an extract from an interview with GameXplain:
[The Soar ability] allows you to land in places you can’t normally walk or Surf to. And in these new places, you’ll encounter a lot of new Pokémon, not previously seen in the Hoenn region that you can catch. What this does for us, is it allows players who only have the 3DS games – being X and Y, and Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire – to complete the National Pokédex with just the two different series of games.
On the subject of interviews, Mr Ohmori has shed further interesting insight, this time about how Game Freak chooses which Pokémon receive the honorary call to Mega Evolve. Here’s what he had to say after GameXplain posed the question:
In terms of how we determine which Pokémon get a Mega Evolution – of course Mega Evolutions were introduced in X and Y, and we’re adding a lot more this time around – and we’ve been monitoring how people have been playing the game: what Pokémon they’re using for tournaments, and even the online rating battles. So seeing which Pokémon are prominently used a lot, we’ll come up with ways just to improve the balance and shake things up. For example, we come up with Mega Evolutions that can counter these Pokémon to improve the battle experience. And that’s one of the reasons we choose Mega Evolutions.
Other than that, some of the game designers at Game Freak really want to work on certain Pokémon, so they’ll of course choose some. Or, from a story perspective, which Pokémon will make sense – so we’ll choose some that way, as well. We’ll also take into consideration fan favourites – which Pokémon fans would be excited to see Mega Evolve. It’s really a mixture of methods in how we choose which Pokémon have Mega Evolutions.
To summarise, certain Pokémon are chosen to Mega Evolve if it improves balance in the competitive battling scene, they’re a staff/fan favourite, or if it makes sense from a storyline perspective.
The build-up to Pokémon ORAS has been exciting thanks to more news, revelations, and insights such as these that are scattered throughout the internet kitchen for Poké-holics to chow-down on. At least now there is some more instantly-accessible depth in the latest instalment of Pokémon games, with players feeling more encouraged to explore in the main adventure as opposed to rinsing their 3DS battery via Wi-Fi battles. Furthermore, the competitive battling scene should feel a lot more balanced, with an increase of fans’ favourites receiving their Super Saiyan-esc forms. It’s certainly an electrifying time to be a Pokémon fan.
Let us know what you think of these developer comments, while the full interview is below.
[source youtube.com, via gamnesia.com]
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Great, finally i can file the remaining entries on my Pokemon Y Dex from 3th and 4th generations legendaries.
I doubt the Mythical Pokémon (Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect, Diancie and the others) will be included in this.
Thankfully, you can complete your National Pokédex without those Pokémon.
Really though, this is nothing new. They always do this. When FRLG came out, you could then get all Pokémon between RS and FRLG. When HGSS came out, you could then get all Pokémon between DP and HGSS. When B2W2 came out, you could then get all Pokémon between BW and B2W2 (with help from the Dream World).
This has actually reignited my interest in the game.
@Serebi So the only the ones I need won't be included...
@Moldemort That doesn't mean we won't get some kind of event.
This could make me get back into Pokemon. Never looked back to the series since RGB 'til now. But what about the legendaries? You need to explain how that would work. Those are the ones you think when hearing "Gotta Catch ‘Em All".
Cool.
Are all 719 Pokemon in that pic? I'm not even going to pretend to count them all.
Have they explained how this works w/ the bank? My kids each messed around w/ it a little for the free month but neither showed any interest in paying the $5. I asked them recently if they wanted to pay the $5 now but they said they didn't know enough yet about how it will be used with the new games.
@Serebii well why is there Manaphy in the center just under the logo? I even see deoxys, Celebi and Arceus!
Does that include ones like celebi? I skipped the original GBA games so I honestly don't know.
Cool stuff. I bought HG just to try to get more Pokémon for my Black 1 Dex and I did not enjoy it, I am still in the middle of the game.
And even with all Pokémon in just two games, it is a gigantic task to get them all.
while its technically true, the problem is these "event" pokemon where you need to visit gamestop or toys r us. long as they dont do that, we're good
So there'll be Unown somewhere in Hoenn then. Or maybe a trip to the Sevii isles?
@Serebii But this is, of course, more impressive, seeing as the total no. of Pokemon grows each generation. But yes, it should be more of a revelation that they have managed to keep up with this pattern.
@blackbox64 That image didn't come with the interview.
@rjejr The bank stores the pokemon on a server and when you pop in a game (X/Y or any future game they said) you just load up the bank and move them to the PC. Just drag and drop. It's easier than needing two 3DS systems to trade back and fourth and you can use any copy of the game. For example, I paid for Bank but my wife didn't. Whenever she has a pokemon she wants to keep but not on her game, like an event pokemon, we just put her game into my 3DS and I transfer it to my bank.
Hope that helps answer your question.
@Serebii I'm thinking the same. But I don't get why they never bother to include them, not even in postgame. They ARE still part of all Pokémon, excluding them because GameFreak themselves don't include them anywhere is pretty lazy.
But that's a general gripe. What really bothers me is how they don't even care about proper presentation for legendaries anymore. Would it be so damn hard to create some kind of ruin/cave/whatever to traverse before finding a legendary? Since they're so easily found by now (or rather thrown straight in your face), the exploration aspect kinda starts degrading.
GameFreak must be aware how satisfying it is to find a closed-off area, only to discover the MacGuffin required to pass (yes, it's cheap, but still exciting) and get a cool area to traverse BEFORE meeting the legendary. Instead, we get a checkpoint, and the Poké just pops out.
@Kaze_Memaryu It's because these Pokémon are Mythical Pokémon. They aren't meant to be found in gameplay. They are designed and meant to be distributed in events.
@Serebii
They mean normally catching them, in tandem with their silly real world 'events'. They should just make the events WiFi only, although I doubt they ever will.
@ZenTurtle The concept of events is to go somewhere for something, and you get the Pokémon as a bonus. Distributing solely online would be counter to this idea. Not to say we don't get them here and there, but it's the concept and The Pokémon Company wish to continue that.
Do I need all 4 games to get them all if I have no friends?
oh boy my son might just lose it!!!! he's really excited to have Treeco and this means i might have to play sapphire while he's deep in ruby…im going to take a nap LOL
@Serebii
Not everyone lives near a place where they are distributed, and surely you agree that putting the data in game, but making them perpetually inaccessible is a bit unfair, especially with the older games? Also, it's a bit embarrassing to go to a game store and asking for a Pokemon. Sometimes the shop staff and other customers laugh at you, because this is a game targeted primarily at kids...
So then.... Where's Mega Flygon?
721 with Volcanion and Hoopa, Nintendolife.
Anyway, yeah, mythical pokes (Mew, Celebi, etc) will most likely remain event-only. Which sucks, because it reeks of elitism. Oh, well...
@monnier Well, there's also online trading, i'm pretty sure you're not the only person deprived of pokéfriends (I am too, for a start )
Celebi you got with Pokémon Bank after you first used it, Keldeo most people trade over through Poke Transporter, same with Victini, and Manaphy and Phione. Diancie is getting Mega so she will be in the game. The rest you mentioned Meloetta, Jirachi, Genesect and others were possible to switch over using Poke Transporter as I have most of them in my bank so it is possible for them to be included in this.
Well, I have all the pokemon in my pokebank..... so as long as these games have use of the pokebank, I have all the pokemon.
@ZenTurtle say it's for your kid, or little brother even if you don't have one.
I'd prefer events to be wifi only because I rarely shop at EB Games/Gamestop. I live out in the country and don't drive so it's hard to get into town unless I have other shopping to do.
Finally, I will be able to get an Unown without having to trade from Diamond to Black to Pokebank
That's good news, even though it's not actually unexpected, as Serebii stated. Regarding the discussion about the distribution of the Mythical Pokémon, I really wish they did worldwide with a Wi-Fi distribution. Thousands of players are unable to get those event Pokémon, it's really unfair. They have begun a more expansive approach with the global release of X&Y, might as well change the traditions a little bit more.
A bit off-topic: does anyone knows if X&Y are less laggy on the New 3DS? I really wish it is. I'd love to be able to turn on the 3D effect without being afraid of any issue.
I'm guessing these secret locations will have all the friend safari pokemon that don't naturally appear in Hoenn, like Meowth or Misdreavus.
@Serebii Aren't Shaymin, Keldo, and Victini accessible with the scraps? Technically those would be accessible in ORAS. Also Celebi was obtainable in X/Y with Pokemon Bank.
@jjmesa16 Yeah but through event, not in-game, like all Mythical Pokémon
I'm pretty sure they've said before excluding mythical or maybe just saying can complete national is enough to imply that.
A thing for anyone wanting to do this themselves is while the 705 Pokemon needed to complete the National Dex will be possible I can't help but think Gamefreak will stingy in places again. Remember how in XY you could only get one of the legendary birds per play through.
The other legendary trios (which I'm guessing are in the sky too) will probably play out in the same way based on that.
In other news HG/SS transferred Unown became a whole lot less valuble (unless they do something kind of like Deerling/Sawsbuck and only have one variant represented in OR/AS).
The one thing that always irked me about the series was the fact that you couldn't catch them all without owning every game, glad to see it is finally going to be possible!
@Serebii I could see Mew and Deoxys being available in game.... via event, if their event items are distributed again.
Yep got em all already stored in my poke bank nice and safe ( well except for the likes of arceus, genesect, darkrai and their ilk I think I need 9 of these mythical pokemon.
But then I did start playing pokemon with red and blue I do possess all the games and all the consoles I need
I had to go back to ruby and sapphire and break out my old GBA to complete my bank... and then they announce remakes for those games... lol
@Great_Gonzalez I'm the same, I've fully completed my pokédex with the exception of pokémon that are not legally available. Can't wait to download my Dancie in a few weeks!
But yes, it's VERY easy for those of us who have been playing since RBY to forget how hard it must be for younger players to build up their pokédex without going back & buying ancient Nintendo hardware (the stuff I grew up with).
The first Pokemon game I played was X, and I was able to get all of the non-event pokemon. GTS makes it pretty simple. It took about a month, but I was able to get all of the pokemon, even the legendaries. A friend of mine did it as well.
So it IS possible right now to get all of them, you just have to be creative on the GTS and get a little lucky.
So Im still the only who one cares that they make a big deal about being able to catch'em all but when you PAY $14.99 for s PRO Pokedex they dont update it with all the new Pokemon?
Eh, I already completed the National Dex in Y, I guess doing it in Alpa Saphire will require even less effort.
My first Pokemon game was X & Y, and I managed to get the 719 Pokemon just using online trading (mostly the GTS).
good thing for the box. i am sure there is someone with original games and link cables that moved one from blue all the way to x
@BassLostie All 719? When was Diancie released? As far as I know, outside of the Japanese movie release (which can not be traded via GTS), Diancie has not been released in the US or Europe.
It's not an accusation as you may know someone who saw the movie in Japan & traded their one, super rare pokémon from them.
Catching all 719 is pretty easy if you accept cloned/hacked pokémon. I'm sticking to 718 until GAME/Gamestop officially release DIancie in the west next month.
@endy_n_omni - Thanks for the info.
@ZenTurtle I've asked for codes from my local GAME quite a few times & no one has ever laughed at me... in fact I've had some really fun conversations with both the store staff & other pokémon fans in store.
I've been to a few events & generally had to travel to them myself... they're huge fun and wouldn't have exchanged the experiences I had for anything. Yes, you could spend 5 seconds to download a code & then get on with your life.. or spend 30 minutes on a train & mess about with 30/40 people who love the same thing you do...
I'm dreading Diancie being code only from EB Games, they're a nightmare to get and a little part of your soul is lost every time you enter the store - fact. I used to download my event Pokemon from outside the shop, guess they got wise to that.
I think the headline of this article may be misleading. I bet you'll only be able to catch enough Pokemon to complete your Dex in game.
@Serebii
I always word anything I post on Pokemon articles real carefully now incase you correct me. I need correcting sometimes tho, so it's cool
@ZenTurtle They laugh when you ask for it? Ask for and talk to the manager, flash the cash for the game, then walk out without buying it. Maybe then he/she will hire competent staff. I'm soon to be 33 and I don't give a rats ass that Pokemon is my second favorite game series.
As for ORAS, Pokemon like Mew, Arceus, Jirachi et all are probably planned to be distributed in the game's life span so they will be available to 3DS users only.
btw, Fandabidozi, I love your user name and profile pic. I miss the Crankies.
All I need is Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion to complete my dex. Though getting another Zekrom/Dialga/Lugia is totally fine. The more the merrier, I say.
@GN004Nadleeh You can't move from Blue to G/S games to R/S games on. It's because of abilities which would have made moving pokemon without them really difficult to compensate for. HOWEVER, R/S games on are totally capable of transferring from. It would take some time but it's totally possible to move a pokemon from R/S to OR/AS. You'd just need 4th generation's Pal Park, then the PokeTransfer, and then finally the Pokemon Bank's PokeTransporter, which you have to pay for.
You also have to consider version exclusives... If you just bought X and Alpha Sapphire, for example, you could not get Groudon, Zekrom, Reshiram or Lugia just using those carts. Also, if Skrelp/Clauncher and Swirlix/Spritzee are not available in ORAS you wouldn't be able to get them without trading or something.
Of course there's starters and Pokémon you need to choose between too, but you can always reset your cart for those (tedious as it may be, it'd still be possible to get them all, just with the two carts).
Finally! At long last, I can hope to achieve a full Pokédex. I can't wait for the releases!
@Trikeboy
Hey thanks You live in Australia right? Hope you watch the excellent Good Game and Good Game Spawn Point. They totally have that Saturday morning kids TV thing going on.
Me and my sis are super excited about ORAS If the Gold/Silver remakes are anything to go by.
Actual flying...diving...bases...make your own gym...buzznav...epic mega shinkan, mirage spots, cosplay pikachu and more....oh man!
Mega Steelix, Altaria, Rayquaza and Pidgeot <3
And Beedrill turns badass.
Just one (minor) grip: no trainer customization. Not essential but it adds so much to the experience! X and Y made me feel like I am the trainer and not playing some dude or girl with a weird sense of fashion.
Anyway glad they're making it easier to catch 'em all! And just in time, I almost resorted to illegal means getting all those event pokemon. (Shaymin, Mew...)
With this Nintendo has also begun the process of banning the use of all older generation Pokemon online.
http://www.serebii.net/omegarubyalphasapphire/compatibility.shtml
New Battle Spot rules.
OR/AS League: Open only for players of Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire. This league lets you only use Pokémon that were caught, hatched or distributed in Pokémon X, Y, Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire.
XY League: Open only for players of Pokémon X & Y. This league lets you only use any Pokémon, including those that were transferred from Pokémon Black, White, Black 2 or White 2.
Meh I kinda liked the fact I owned all the games therefore I can get all the pokemon excluding event only ones! Still I managed to miss out on a jirachi still hunting but I heard Pokémon channel comes with one so I can always get that. In the end this makes all the new pokemon players able to join in on all the fun because I think a lot of new players first games were X and Y
@DarkKirby
Also, am i right in saying they don't let you use most legendary 'mon anyway in the leagues? So breeding would probably get round it?
Here i thought it was hard collecting the original 151 pokemon back in the day now where up to 719.Oh boy i better get going then on this if i wanna catch em all
@Fandabidozi No, I'm Scottish and a child of the 80's when the Krankies were at their peak. They were so funny (through my nostalgic haze).
@Serebii actually, although it hasnt been officically confirmed, some hackers found bg music for deoxy battle, cobalion battle, heatran battle, suicune battle, zekrom battle, lugia battle, uxie battle, and a dialga battle. theres other legenderies confirmed in the game, but theyre version exclusive and i only have the musci for one of the versions
@Serebii I just got Deoxys in OR. From what I hear, the other mythic pokemon are not available.
Haha Love how this Serebii guy has been spreading false poopoodoodoocacapoopledoople about us not being able to catch legendaries. News flash, wait for the game to come out before spreading stuff like that, WE CAN catch all normal legendaries, and so far a handful of mythical pokemon. Most likely more in the DLC's that are coming. So yeah sit down rofl.
change my Manaphy for Arceus or Meloetta
I have only 2 Manaphys.
@Serebii hey, i just bought Pokemon Y and OmegaRuby.
im wondering if, with JUST these two games, can i get all 719 pokemon or will i have to by X and AlphaSapphire as well?
I hope this feature comes back in Diamond and Pearl remakes after Pokémon Sword and Shield are released on 15 November 2019 so I’m expecting these new remakes to be released in 2020 or 2021 and then let us transfer any Pokémon we want to transfer HOME unlike in Sword and Shield because it was announced at E3 today that you will only be able to transfer Pokémon in the Galar Regional Pokédex from older games to the new Sword and Shield games.
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