The character line-up in the new Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS has been shaping up nicely so far. There are both classic and modern characters such Mario and the recently revealed Diddy Kong, thrown in with the Wii Fit Trainer and Villager from Animal Crossing.
What about the outcasts, though? You know, some of the more wicked characters in the Nintendo universe. Could the latest entry in the Smash series do with a bit more playable — and maybe even purple — attitude?
Well, too bad. Game director Masahiro Sakurai has posted a screenshot and a few words on Miiverse crushing the possibility of the lanky Waluigi being a playable character in the new roster. The post confirmed Waluigi will be returning to the Smash franchise as an Assist Trophy, but nothing more.
Once again, Waluigi’s Assist Trophy joins the collection!! …Which also means he’s not a playable character. Just because you try hard doesn't mean you'll make it into the battle.
Let us know in the comments how you feel about Waluigi reappearing in the form of an Assist Trophy, or if you feel he deserves a bit more love from Nintendo...perhaps like the attention his rival Luigi got last year?
The poor guy will never get a break.
Actually I, puts on flame shield, thought Waluigi would be a terrible character, combined with the fact that Mario characters take up alot of character slots anyway. So yeah, completely fine with this.
Waluigi would have been a better addition than any currently announced addition. Oh well, I just hope they get the gameplay right this time.
Mario looks like he's up to no good
Wa wa wa wa waluigi. Don't worry he makes a better kart racer anyway!
Sakurai giving life lessons! " Just because you try hard doesn't mean you'll make it into the battle."
Gotta love him.
I think Waluigi should get his own eshop game before being a character in smash. He definitely has potential in representing mario spinoffs as well
There are a lot more deserving characters out there for a spot in brawl then a filler mario kat/sports/party character. If he ever gets his own series like wario or a major presence in a 3D mario, then and only then would he deserve a spot on the roster
To me, Waluigi could represent a more daring side to Nintendo. They've released games starring other fringe characters before, (Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland, Super Princess Peach &, of course, WarioWare), and they've often been much more interesting than their play it safe 'New Super Mario Bros.', Wii Lifestyle or Mario/Nintendoland Party games.
I suppose it's something, that he's at least appearing in the game as a trophy, and to be honest, I'm not too upset he isn't appearing as a fully fledged character, but Nintendo really need to give him his own game.
I'd also like to see a proper Wario game as well - be it a platform adventure or WarioWare D.I.Y for this generation.
Sakurai finally proved that all those requests from the disrespectful fans in Miiverse are useless and will never help a character become playable.
I think the developer didn't want to make the effort of putting him as a fighter. I mean, you got Mario, Luigi and Wario, so why not complete the circle and add "bad Luigi" too. Oh well. People are always going to complain about the Mario/Wario bros. being skins of each other and too similar and what not ..well, it's not about that imo.. It's about character preference. Some poeple like to use certain characters for various reasons. And besides, they clearly do have their unique traits and abilities. But whatevs
It wouldn't be Super Smash Bros. without Mario though, so he's the first character devs need to create.
Doesn't bother me. Waluigi is one of the least interesting characters in the Mario pantheon and Mario is already the single most represented IP in the Smash roster. We need another Mario character in Smash like we need a new New Super Mario Bros. game (not at all).
Waluigi will likely always deservedly be just the filler character in Mario sports games.
Glad he is coming back as an assist trophy once more, as he was one of the best assists you could summon. I agree with many here that there are much better characters to be added to the roster than him, like Isaac from golden sun for example.
@Goginho Because contrary to wario, waluigi doesn't have his own series and he only appears as a filler character in sports games. Rosalina is a much better choice for a new Mario character because her popularity and inclusion in recent games (especially Super Mario 3D World where she is amazing) make her even better than peach, something waluigi lacks in comparison.
Currently Waluigi is a filler character for MP and MK games and SSB is not the sort of game where filler characters get a roster spot which I'm perfectly happy with.
Ok, bare with me here guys but....
I remember hearing a few years back that the reason Waluigi is not used in main games is because, Nintendo don't technically own his design. When Nintendo made Wario for an early game (I think SSB or MK, really not too sure, back in the 90's) they needed to fill up a roster of names/character, they had an outside company help out with a few designs and that company (cant remember their name now) came up with Waluigi, Nintendo went with him but for some reason the company that came up with him hold the rights to him and his design, hence, we never see him in his own games or anything like Wario.
And to be fair, we all like him and want him in his on games like Wario is. Nintendo know this and if they could he would have his own games (like Wario World on the Gamecube, or the Wario 1,2,3,4 gameboy games etc) and be a playable character in SSB an stuff.
I still believe this, but sure there ya go. I'm sure someone else on here would know more about it.
I would love a 'Waluigi World!'
I'm okay with this.
Pretty much confirms Wario (like he wasn't already). Looking at the Smash website, you can conclude the roster is a multiple of 9 from the bottom run of characters, so likely to be 36. there are 24 announced so far, so that leaves space for Wario, Yoshi, Ganon, Cpt Falcon, Chase McCain and the Seven main Wonderful 101ers.
Too bad. I think he would have been a nice, new addition to the roster. Oh well.
@BAGBOY I see a lot of potential in Waluigi having his own little sub-series and I hope someday Nintendo do use him to create something different.
Rosalina being better than him (and even Peach) is subjective. Rosalina is a great choice imo., but why not Waluigi? Just cause he's a filler doesn't mean he shouldn't be fully included into something, since he could have easily had his own stand-alone game(s) by now, which incorporated his character and attributes nicely with some fresh, unique game mechanics. That's Nintendo's job, so I can't do much there, but I see him as an equel to Wario, no matter if Wario's been around longer.
Like I was saying with the circle, it's kinda weird seeing the three others, Mario, his counterpart and Luigi on the same level, but Luigi's counterpart ends up being non-playable. That's my main reasoning behind this. I don't really care though, I just find it a shame ..and kind of odd too. Oh well
@readyletsgo If they made him playable in Mario Kart Wii then why would that reason stop them from making him playable in Smash?
@TulipWaltz Not sure, thats just what I've heard. Maybe because he has no back story or something.
Meh, he's nothing special anyway... Hell, Daisy has been in more games than him. Both of them need to play a bigger part in a Mario game to get out of the 'Spin-Off fodder' role they are apparently stuck in.
@edhe i;m sorry. did you call Peach a fringe character?
@Fazermint No he wouldn't. He's just a evil guy who they use in a bunch of spinoffs.
@MrGawain uh, chase mcain no chance. no chance for the w101s either.
@Goginho Yeah, I get your points, mainly that luigi is missing his counterpart, and while that's obvious even to me, the problem is that we do not know him very much as to expect him to be as mainstream as any other mario character and be playable like rosalina; I agree with you on the point that is nintendo's own fault that he is an obscure character, but like I said before, the character that deserves the assist trophy to fighter trait like little mac had is Isaac, golden sun for the win!!!!
@Frapp Mario Tennis! Thats what the game was!!!
Yeah you're prob right, ninty just dont like him. It is a pity, would love a stand alone Waluigi game. Something platformer like where he can reach stuff the rest cant.
I'd only like WaLuigi as a playable character so I could beat him up over and over and over again.
I'm sorry, but other than the Mario Kart DS track (WaLuigi Pinball) and how he is treated in the Stupid Mario Bros. youtube series, I hate his character. The name, the look, the voice, I hate it. He's an insult to both Luigi and Wario.
Sorry, but it's just how I feel.
Great more space for new and interesting fighters .
For everyone complaining about Rosalina over Waluigi, remember the point here is to make profit at the same time. Sakurai realizes that more kids and people will recognize Rosalina over Waluigi, and more people (little kids mainly, but others as well) would buy for the character they recognize.
Too bad, I'd love to play with him!
He deserves to be one again. He's basically not really a big highlight in the Mario series so I'm not effected. It kinda would be cool, but @DreamyViridi Agreed, they really need to stop slapping them in spin-offs and make them more noticeable, it not, eh doesn't bug me, would've been good though.
Still would've preferred him to Wii Fit Trainer, but that goes for basically any character.
I never wanted for him to be playable
He wont even appear in a warioware game, a trophy assist in Smash is the most he will get.
And yes, i hate him too.
Waaaah?! Waluigi no win this time!
I wonder what a game with Waluigi as the main character would be like. Wario's games are weird because so is Wario, but I guess Waluigi's games would be sinister and dark because so is Waluigi.
Smash Bros. is totally going to bomb now.
Shame, as it would've been nice to play as him.
Lets just hope a decent character choice will make up his space.
Was anybody REALLY clamouring for this guy? Sure, he may be the sexiest Mario character ever, but he's still utterly useless.
'thank you ive been saying this for years. Make it a 2D game put it on the eshop, it would sell, but Nintendo is lazy and wouldn't think of things like that, like a new eshop Mario game.
@whodatninja "But he still utterly useless"
Same could be said about Peach in most of the main Mario games.
I personally never understood the hate Waluigi gets, I've been playing as him since Mario Party 3 on every spinoff that I've played(except for MK7, because they were lazy & rushed the game, gotta love that Metal Mario, brilliant replacement).
I love the guy, his attitude is completely different from most Mario characters & I really like that contrast. Kinda sad how he keeps getting ignored, yet stuff like Toadette get's the pass for being good(I don't even know if she was in a game prior to Double Dash).
For me this is yet another disappointment, both him & Skull Kid are only assist trophies(Yet Toon Link still got in, even though he is yet another unnecessary clone character).
"Once again, Waluigi’s Assist Trophy joins the collection!! …Which also means he’s not a playable character. Just because you try hard doesn't mean you'll make it into the battle."
Once again beating a dead horse, but hey, Wii Fit Trainer was totally a character that needed to happen, because the big N hardly has any good females.
Yes I'm bitter
Waluigi not being playable in Smash Bros. isn't a bad thing.
Walugi not being playable in Mario Kart 7, now that was a bad thing!
@Shotgunryugan but there are many females besides Wii fit trainer that could've been chosen:
Lucina (fire emblem)
WRONG! ITS ALWAYS WALUIGI TIME!
Man, I was really disappointed when I found out about this. I mean, if they need more ideas for him, since he's never had his own game, they could have based him off of the Brawl in the Family Waluigi. In fact, I hope they put a few BitF things in this game, like an Eario assist trophy that would sweep people off the stage. That would be awesome, but it's just wishful thinking.
Daisy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waluigi
I imagine the full roster's been planned out at least a year ago (fighters, assist trophies, Pokemon). With the game's due date being sometime later in 2014, I highly doubt there will be any new fighters incorporated at this point without seriously reconsidering how other characters are balanced out (something the director is a huge stickler of). Just let the developers finish the game and too bad if it doesn't hit every fan service expectation of which character you think should or shouldn't be in it (I bet 999 out of 1,000 you will buy the game anyway, regardless of a "perfect" roster lineup).
Now Shadow the Hedgehog please. I made like a million posts on Miiverse for Shadow to be in Smash. lol They're drawn btw.
All the silly backlash over a useless character is hilarious. Dude never had a chance because Nintendo doesn't even like him. And why should they he's a world throwaway character who fans overhype.
@FilmerNgameR We don't need more SEGA characters. Third party characters should stick to only 1 representation. Smash Bros is a Nintendo franchise, if you want Shadow wait until SEGA/Sonic Team does a "All Stars" type of fighting game.
+Besides Silver & Big, Shadow has been one of the worst Sonic characters.
@BAGBOY Isaac definitely is a fit as a NEW character rather than a million more characters from series that already have enough representation(I'm talking about Dixie and others who'd probably be more clone-like anyways); Psynergy could make for an interesting move set. Grand Gaia final smash?
@Xtremetdifan How dare you forget Shantae?! She should be near the top, if not first, on that list you have(seeing as Peach is already in), since she is the main character of her own series. D: Also could have a great moveset and would be better for a new female addition.
I'm also with everyone who is up for a Waluigi spin off series. The guy, like someone mentioned above, is unique enough to pull off one in possibly a darker and more sinister way.
@whodatninja He sure is, lmao.
@Shotgunryugan I'm sorry what? Not even close.
Until Waluigi had a game of his own (where he main star), I don't think Sakurai will bother making him playable in a Super Smash Bros. game anytime soon. All the characters who are playable in Smash Bros. must have a starring main game of their own (like Peach and Diddy Kong) or be popular enough to be playable (like Lucario and Zelda) in able to be part of the playable roster. Waluigi's popularity hasn't gone up and had mostly appear in spin-offs so it's right for Sakurai to put him behind as assist trophy again.
You would think that with the year of Luigi still going that his evil twin would get his own game and a spot on Smash Bros.
No loss. We need more characters from different franchises: Xenoblade, Sin & Punishment, Golden Sun, etc.
HERE IT COMES.
This guy needs a own platform game
As long as Wario's not playable... can't stand that guy...
Too bad the only mainstream game Daisy was in was Super Mario Land. She needs to appear in more mainstream games! Waluigi too.
Good! Stay as an assist trophy!
Waluigi: Aw, everybody cheaters! Next time I cheat! Heh heh heh!
You'd be hard pressed to find a character less deserving of inclusion than Waluigi.
everything that needs to be said about Waluigi:
He's just a terrible idea. Wario was great in SML2 and specially in SML3, but Waluigi is just a lame extrapolation to be the Luigi counterpart, even the name doesn´t make any sense as Mario / Wario was.
Super lame. We need more villains.
@Fazermint Yeah, right. A character with no personality is better than the most developed character in the Mario universe (Rosalina), Mega Man and a 30 years old character (Lil Mac). Yup, totes.
"Well, too bad."
"Just because you try hard doesn't mean you'll make it into the battle."
@FilmerNgameR If any other SEGA character would appear I wouldn't want another Sonic character right away, I wouldn't hate it, but I'd rather have Ristar even though he's never had a game on anything but Genesis. He was on VC that counts right?
I do hope Waluigi at least gets his own game one day. Surely, it'd be better than that crazy ol' WarioWare.
Tbh I hate Waluigi lol. Well maybe not hate but I really see little point to him other than being Wario's Luigi (not even sure of Wario and Waluigi are related). Waluigi doesn't appear in any main Mario related games (I think?). But seeing him as an assist trophy is still fine, if Wario's around at least it keeps the four together!
@Melkac I'm sorry, I thought this was the INTERNET.
Mario doesn't need any more representatives anyway.
damn you sakurai!!! waluigi should be playable!!!
WTF ITS THE 4TH ONE YOU BROUGHT WII FIT TRAINER BUT NOT WALUIGI WTF
Waluigi Crotch Chop!
To say I was disappointed would be an understatement. Waluigi is such a lovable sore loser.
In light of this, Nintendo will announce Year of Waluigi!
@Shotgunryugan Nope only Big is the bad character and Sonic team can just fix Silver's gameplay by getting rid of that stupid energy bar thing and making him more faster, would make Silver an awesome character. Besides Shadow would be a unique character in Smash he has a whole bunch of chaos moves that would make him a very strong character in Smash. He deserves to be in Smash or at least be a playable character in the next Sonic.
@64supermario The problem is that Ristar wouldn't be too well known maybe it would be better if SEGA makes a new game for Ristar but sadly both choices don't seem too possible.
@PrincessEevee9 LoL ikr. Only Big is the bad character but his gameplay was improved in Heroes though.
I was really hoping to see him as a playable character...the SSB4 roster barely has any good characters... :L Maybe next time.
I'm ok with this, but if there is one character I want as an assist trophy is Jimmy T. and I hope Wario gets a move set, they were just not fitting for him
well now we know daisy's fate she is going to be a costume for peach and with waluigi meh i really didit like him he was just there to annoy people or play sports and stuff.
I thought it was kind of strange that he was not in Mario Kart 7. I probably would not have used him anyway though. I don't really hate the guy, so I don't care much if he is playable in Smash or not. It would add another villain to the lineup though, which I think Smash needs more of.
It would've been really cool to have this character. It's only natural that in a fighting game, the bad guys can finally beat the living snot out of the spotlight-stealing good guys, and vice versa. That would've given Luigi a reason to fight, other than revenge on Mario.
Well, he is a powerful Assist Trophy. Hopefully this means Wario's going to re-join the cast.
He would've been a lot better than clones like Toon Link which didn't need to come back honestly.
@Chriiis your right this mistake is unbelievable... Peach is already in smash Bros! But to your real point I've never played a shantae game so she didn't come to mind
I was being ever so slightly sarcastic, sorry if that didn't come across.
Saying that, the game would be infinitely better with all 7 101er's in it.
Thank god. He never deserved to be playable.
@FilmerNgameR I'm a little bia since I'm a Shadow fan and any insult to his character is just blasphemous since he's as original any main Sonic character. But yeah I like them all even Big. xD
...And nothing of value was lost.
@PrincessEevee9 lol well pretty much Shadow is my 2nd favorite character of the franchise under Sonic although I think Shadow is more unique and powerful than Sonic and deserves to be in Smash and also get his own game again.
Nooooooooo! I wanted to play as Waluigi!
Oh well, just announce Falco already and I'm happy.
This news brought me a breath of relief.
@FilmerNgameR Heh sorry late reply but yeah everybody makes fun of Shadow and yet they all fail to realize that he can be Sonic in a fight, has beat Sonic in a fight, and if we're bring Archie series into this was a flippin' King before he mad trying to protect everybody. I feel extremely biased towards Blaze the Cat and Rouge the Bat love those gals.
@PrincessEevee9 How funny I also like Blaze and Rouge but mostly Blaze, and yes Shadow can beat up Sonic any day ever since the first time they met. btw thanks for the late reply I enjoy chatting about the Sonic franchise.
@FilmerNgameR Yeah same here, even though I know next to nothing about the series besides handful of the games my parents bought me. Thoughts on the new Sonic Boom francise? Myself I'm pretty hyped about it.
@PrincessEevee9 Sonic Boom looks interesting but that Knuckles design is just NO!
@FilmerNgameR Haha it took me awhile but I got used to Knuckles design when I look at him in the light of him being a bruiser and having watched that video showing the design process. Also helps I like the VA.
@PrincessEevee9 yeah same here I'm also getting used to his design. The VA is okay but I don't like how Amy sounds like Minnie Mouse since Lost World, she didn't sound like that in Generations. O.o
@FilmerNgameR I can tolerate the voice since her design is so kickbutt and the fact they're given her more personality that Sega themselves are failing to do.
@PrincessEevee9 Yeah but she needs a more legit voice though that suits her personality. That Minnie Mouse voice is the complete opposite of her "new" personality. Anyway what's your opinion for that new Sonic movie that was announced this morning, I think only Shadow should be the only dark character not really Sonic he's the fun type not the moody type.
It's going to tank Live-Action should be illegal for certain video game francises.
@PrincessEevee9 lol yeah! I think Zelda is the only video game franchise that can be a dark movie.
@FilmerNgameR See now Zelda could pull off Live-Action too. Oh man I want this now. ;n;
@PrincessEevee9 lol yeah same here but I would rather have a new dark Zelda. What's your opinion on the new Sonic DLC I think it's really [email protected]$$!!
what where they thinking? waluigi would be perfect for smash. he's in EVRY mario spin off, so why not put him in smash ? this is EXACTLY WHY I HATE SAKURAI. #WALUIGIFOREVER!!! #WALUIGIFORSSB4DLC!
Nooooooooo kinda of late aren’t I?
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