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bonesy91

KaiserGX wrote:

I guess it's the size of the tv... keep it at 480p it's best. Functionwise.

I thought it was the size to but it's smaller than my older box tv and it played better than that haha. Well I'll probably get use to it eventually.

Thanks for all the tips guys

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BJQ1972

xDemon720x wrote:

I must have a weird HDTV because mine don't have these, it only has a HDMI port, scart port and the red, yellow and white ports. :/ So no upgraded graphics for my Wii. D:

What TV have you got? I thought all HDTVs had component inputs.

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WaveBoy wrote:

bonesy91 wrote:

@Ryno
HD Pro Component Cable for Wii from amazon

@KaiserGX
I did and still looks jagged and all wrong.

Wii games don't look jagged at all on either my LCD or Plasma, they look better than they did on my CRT from a Crisp/clear and Progressivescan standpoint, especially on my LCD. I Guarantee you have that horrible and gimmicky 'Edge enhancement' mode turned on in the Picture control settings, that or the sharpness is turned up too high. Plus, turn off 'dynamic contrast ratio', that's just an ugly, and artificial junky mode to begin with.

There will be some jaggies - at only 480p he should be able to almost count the lines on a decent HDTV, but I would never describe it as poor. At th end of the day the Wii, unfortunately is really designed for SD CRTs, so what most people see is just the problems that you would expect to see from SDTV on a large HDTV.

At the end of the day whatever TV you have you should always maximise the image quality by using the highest quality inputs that are available, and that applies to all sources from game consoles to DVD players etc. For example with a SNES or N64 the difference in using a S-Video lead is remarkable.

As you say though settings do play a large part. I would recommend switching on Game Mode on an HDTV which lowers input lag by switching off unnecessary processing. This generally defaults to a Standard Picture mode rather that the Dynamic mode which some TVs default to.

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DarkLloyd

BJQ1972 wrote:

xDemon720x wrote:

I must have a weird HDTV because mine don't have these, it only has a HDMI port, scart port and the red, yellow and white ports. :/ So no upgraded graphics for my Wii. D:

What TV have you got? I thought all HDTVs had component inputs.

while most tvs still selling have that stuff in the back espically seeing people walk out of the futureshop store with tvs

if sony only having future blu-ray players have only hdmi ports is a pretty likely scenario possibility that hdtvs in the future will be component less

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BlackFira wrote:

BJQ1972 wrote:

xDemon720x wrote:

I must have a weird HDTV because mine don't have these, it only has a HDMI port, scart port and the red, yellow and white ports. :/ So no upgraded graphics for my Wii. D:

What TV have you got? I thought all HDTVs had component inputs.

while most tvs still selling have that stuff in the back espically seeing people walk out of the futureshop store with tvs

if sony only having future blu-ray players have only hdmi ports is a pretty likely scenario possibility that hdtvs in the future will be component less

Blu-Ray players are starting to lose their component outputs, yes. The optimum output is obviously HDMI, although I connect a Blu-Ray player via component to a CRT in a spare room. Due to copyright laws it looks like this won't be an option in years to come.

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Chris720

BJQ1972 wrote:

xDemon720x wrote:

I must have a weird HDTV because mine don't have these, it only has a HDMI port, scart port and the red, yellow and white ports. :/ So no upgraded graphics for my Wii. D:

What TV have you got? I thought all HDTVs had component inputs.

Celcus and I must say, it's a really good TV, amazing quality. But the component inputs are for some reason just not there. The only thing that's close to HD is the HDMI port...

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bonesy91

WaveBoy wrote:

bonesy91 wrote:

@Ryno
HD Pro Component Cable for Wii from amazon

@KaiserGX
I did and still looks jagged and all wrong.

Wii games don't look jagged at all on either my LCD or Plasma, they look better than they did on my CRT from a Crisp/clear and Progressivescan standpoint, especially on my LCD. I Guarantee you have that horrible and gimmicky 'Edge enhancement' mode turned on in the Picture control settings, that or the sharpness is turned up too high. Plus, turn off 'dynamic contrast ratio', that's just an ugly, and artificial junky mode to begin with.

Then it must just be the brand of my hdtv (granted, it's not one of the top brands but then again can't afford one )

And I've messed with the settings as much as I could. Right now my settings are something along this line:

Contrast: 30
Color: 60
Sharpness: 0 (any higher and the lines get worse)
Brightness: 65

Color temp: cool
Noise reduction: high (though even off it seems to do absolutely nothing.)
and all the other high tech stuff turned off.

@BJQ1972
is 24inch really that big? haha. I thought it was on the small size. >.>
and sadly, this brand doesn't have a game mode setting.

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@bonesy91 I have a Game Mode setting and to be honest, it looks horrendous... it makes it nice to look at, but when you come to a dark place, for example the caves in Tundra on Monster Hunter Tri, it goes really dark!

Your better off fixing your own settings which is what I did. It's still dark, but it's not overly dark.

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romulux

i think the problem is that your tv doesn't have good scaling. HDTVs are hit or miss when it comes to displaying SD picture, some do it well while others look like trash. you have to do some research before buying to know how your tv will handle 480p for sure.

it helps to go with 720p instead of 1080p, since 1080 requires more than doubling the wii's vertical resolution in order to display the picture on the set. it's also best to avoid widescreen mode if you can, since the tv then has to do additional scaling to stretch the 640 horizontal pixels the wii outputs to fill 1,920 pixels of screen space.

the wii U will let you output wii games through HDMI, which might improve the quality depending on your tv; some have cheap analog inputs that are treated as an afterthought now that digital is the standard. with HDMI you could also use 1x1 pixel mapping to get rid of some scaling, if your tv supports it. so at least there's that!

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xDemon720x wrote:

BJQ1972 wrote:

xDemon720x wrote:

I must have a weird HDTV because mine don't have these, it only has a HDMI port, scart port and the red, yellow and white ports. :/ So no upgraded graphics for my Wii. D:

What TV have you got? I thought all HDTVs had component inputs.

Celcus and I must say, it's a really good TV, amazing quality. But the component inputs are for some reason just not there. The only thing that's close to HD is the HDMI port...

As you've got a Scart I would recommend getting an RGB Scart Cable. I would look around for an official one on eBay, because some of the cheaper ones aren't fully wired (I would also check that the SCART input is RGB enabled) and so actually just provide composite rather than RGB. It should make a clear difference - almost as good as component, although only in 480i.

@Bonesy91 - Romulux has it spot on there. As your TV is only 24" I would suspect the scaling qualities of the TV. Game Modes are only effective in reducing input lag so if that is not your problem then don't worry - ironically cheap LCDs tend to have much lower input lag due to their lack of fancy processing.

The only other thing I can suggest is to try to optimise your settings. I would start by switching to the Movie or Film picture preset if it has one, switching off all processing such as dynamic contrast etc, and, as odd as it may look initially, putting colour temperature to Warm. Then if you have a DVD player and a disc with a THX optimiser use that to set up the picture and use the same settings for the Wii.

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Visor

A component cable is definitely a must if you own a HDTV. The picture quality is phenomenal. Of course it wont compete with the likes of real HD consoles like Xbox or PS3.

I recently just got mine when I bought Zelda and the improvement is ridiculous. Colours are so much nicer, and its a lot sharper. You do notice the little inperfections on the Wii more though, but that's a small compromise.

If anyone wants, I've got an official Nintendo RGB cable I needa get rid of.

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