Topic: Wii U is safe from the NX!? Seems to be true

And that is entirely subjective...

However you fail to adress what the company's number of employees has to do with any of this, why it matters whether it was made by a subsidiary or not, or how you know that this game will be smaller than DKC:TF, despite the fact that we don't even know how big the game will be.

I'm also beginning to think the NX is not the name of the platform, but the OS. And still do believe the NX based portable will be the 1st to launch. I can't imagine Nintendo can afford to let the 3DS decline into oblivion.

All their big franchises have hit, and even the earliest possible launch, likely late spring/summer 2016 is still over a year away. I still think it's a November launch and it will be a 3rd pillar type situation.

Completely new branding from the DS, like the DS was a different brand from the GBA to give themselves room to recalibrate if the machine somehow fails.

If the NX is an OS/architecture, that would allow them to make multiple form factors with different specs and purposes. It's a cool idea for sure, and would also open up Nintendo software to a much larger user base. It might have even made bombs like Wonderful 101 into successful games. They're currently selling games to about 62 million users, but that base is divided and some of the most interesting games are walled off to the significantly larger side.

"Mr. Iwata, tear down this wall!" -Investors, probably

Who are you arguing with? I said "between January 1, 2016 and the December 25 following the NX console's launch date." That is when it is going to launch; whatever year, whatever console, there is no way it is coming in 2015 nor after the Christmas after the NX launches (on Wii U.) Also, Zelda is always a November game, so :/ Do explain to me how that game could launch outside those paramaters in this lifetime.

Both Zelda and Yoshi were announced before E3 2014, hence why everyone knew they would appear.

As I said, hasty conclusions

Read my post again, you have selective hearing

Actually Iwata already confirmed they have combined their handheld and console hardware team to exactly allow for this. I believe this was confirmed a few years ago.

The great debate now is what the NX really is.

And in the end, both sides (NX is a console/NX is a portable) could be vindicated and proven right no matter what form factor the NX launches first. The NX will be the 1st hardware Nintendo launches under the unified architecture strategy, so in a way, it is going to make the Wii U obsolete. But I don't think Nintendo will want to replace both their handheld and portable at the same time, so they'll let both go on with their current branding, supproted by the current marketing strategy, and roll out the NX as its own branded product.

It's completely possible the WII/DS branding will go away and you'll see Nintendo branding, or some other new name is used.

@MrWu
I think it's fair to assume that they're pulling their platforms together. They have to. It may even go further than that and extend somewhat to even the Wii U. Or the other way and, as the recent rumour suggested, extend towards mobile. But I suspect a lot of that will be invisible to us as end users. Outside of more games being on multiple Nintendo platforms and more content in general. In the same way that the unified nature of "Windows" or "Anrdoid" is invisible to the buyers of those platforms.

That said I don't think that this is what NX is. Purely because they've specifically said that the NX is a dedicated piece of gaming hardware. It's going to be something you can carry with you (a portable) or something you plug into your TV (home console).

My mindset is exactly the same as you. I absolutely love my wii u, hands down my favorite console to date and I've owned the last three generations of Playstation consoles ps4 included. I also agree that the wii u is finally finding it's way and has a lot more potential left over. I just feel like Nintendos being very hesitate on going all in or out. I feel E3 will give a good subtle indication on the wii us lifespan.
I know there's some loyal Nintendo lovers here as I am myself but if 2016 stands as the wii us last year I may skip out on the NX all together and wait and see with Nintendo.
I'm not going to lie. I'd feel burned, both by the haters always hating on Nintendo and worst, Nintendo themselves.

My bet is its a portable console where you can buy both digital and physical games but also pay monthly subscriptions for a special Nintendo streaming service. Through both this console and streaming service has the functionally to be able to connect via WiFi or Bluetooth to smart phones as well as TVs.

I wish people wouldn't underestimate Splatoon. For Nintendo's first game like that, it's doing awesome! If splatoon's sequel makes it onto a better selling next gen console or handheld, I predict that it can become just as much a good seller as Mario kart is.

Splatoon just has a great fresh concept for online shooting that has far broader appeal and more accessibility than your typical military shooter combined with great character design. Whatever you think about the game they've done something right here. The fact that my 11 year-old daughter enjoys it so much (and can kick my ass in the dojo without a lot of effort), took me by surprise. It just looks and feels really "cool" for want of a better word. It felt like it would be a hit when I first played it and it deserves the success it's enjoying.

Regarding Zelda U being delayed I don't think it's the conspiracy people are making it out to be. The simple answer is that they probably wanted to give some room for games like Splatoon and Yoshi's Wooly World to shine given they already are looking at Star Fox and Xenoblade Chronicles X this year. That might not look like a crowded schedule, but we don't know what kind of game the new Star Fox will be exactly and two big open world games in the same year seems like a lot; especially if they want to ensure people keep playing them and they want to try to sell some DLC. With a smaller install base there's a very real possibility they could overwhelm the market by putting these games in close proximity and I expect they want to make sure everyone will be of a mind to buy these games when they release. Zelda U will likely release next year with nothing immediately surrounding it in the hopes most Wii U owners get it.

Splatoon is great, but I kind of feel bad that it had to be attach to the Wii U; I mean, the Jet Set Radio analogies are hard to miss and it's being made even by fans.

But Jet Set Radio was on the Dreamcast and that platform was Sega's last.

Fanboy or lovers of Nintendo or any kind are the main reason of gaming...

Oh, my God, can we PLEASE drop this RIDICULOUS motion that you can understand how a game plays from WATCHING it and not PLAYING it? It's extremely unscientific and for the most part, it's wrong. It looks pretty good to me, but I'm not going to try and say that this means anything other than that I'm likely going to pick it up. I'll let you know when I've actually played it whether or not I thought it was worthy of Yoshi's Island or just another YNI.

So I'm going to go on a limb and say nintendo will have a whole bunch of games announced for the Wii U and 3DS for fall 2015 through 2016.

Yeah same here. Keep in mind that Iwata said the Wii U and 3DS still have life left in them(and he said that earlier this year). Some folks may not believe that, but I still think we won't get the NX, whatever it is, until 2017.

My guess is that even if they have a whole pile of 3DS content they're not going to spend much time on it. Not unlike last year or the year before. Because as we know from the direction NX speculation has leant, everyone just takes Nintendo's portables for granted. Nintendo knows this. So unless they have mega-tonnes of the "NX is a portable and it's playable on the showroom floor" variety we probably won't hear that much about Nintendo's portable stuff.

The scientific practice of observation says 'wot m8?'

Anyway, I'll take my chances. I was right to be hopeful for Shadow of Mordor, Inquisition, and Life is Strange, this gen, for my purposes, so I'm batting 1000 presently.

Either way, a conventional non-narrative 2D platformer isn't going to set the world on fire in 2015.

No need for straw man arguments. Nobody ever claimed that.

Well I didn't think Tropical Freeze "set the world on fire," but that doesn't mean it isn't worthwhile or a throwaway title. Wooly World just needs to be charming and fun, not some new level of genius. It's just a platformer!