Topic: Wii the Wii U survive without 3rd party support?

It will survive without a doubt. Sadly it won't make the sales that Nintendo's hoping for. A company doesn't want to sell enough to get by.they want to make as many sales as possible to make a substantial profit,

Nothing personal, but where the heck is everyone getting time machines from?

From the De Lorean dealership duh.

I think the N64, GameCube, and the Wii had superior third party support in comparison to the Wii U's somewhat dire situation. It's all on Nintendo's shoulders now,.....can they deliver the needed amount of quality games by first and second party developers? Can they create that killer app to win back some external support? Or build enough hype up so that the Wii U can start shifting a substantial amount of units?

Either ways, it's Nintendo, never count them out.

The same place where you get all your wildy outlandish predictions from?

Here's a direct quote from you, from this thread, https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/general_discussion/will_th... giving your own predictions (which so far, I might add, are looking like they will be off by quite a bit).....

You are coming off as a bit of an annoying hypocrite by repeatedly spewing out this "time machine" line, as if its something clever, when actually if there is ANYONE on this website who is known for making baseless predictions on technology, its you.

My next question is, how much? Is there any benefits to the time machine, besides claiming Nintendo's "doom"?

That's not even what I was talking about. I agree that Nintendo probably won't reach that figure, unless they release some "huge guns", or something.

The one thing I expect to see is a reversion to a 5-year console life for the Wii U. Ideally, I'd like to see a successor at the 4 year mark, but that's probably unrealistic and may alienate owners. But I expect the XOne and PS4 to have 8-10 year console lives and if Nintendo could release a similarly powered machine by 2016, built on similar architecture to Sony and Microsoft, they could be right back in the game.

The Wii U will get by, but it's not going to set any sales records. For now, it's going to rest solely on Nintendo's shoulders to release enough good games to keep people happy. Hopefully they get on with that.

Who knows they might reach that figure. I mean not like we have a time machine or anything

"Wii the Wii U survive without 3rd party support?"

No it won't

You know the 3ds has had very little 3rd party support until very recently. (the last six months)

I think the Wii U will get 3rd party support, including EA, by the end of the year (maybe not for this year though). It will be the typical not so great efforts and PS360 ports. I think Capcom might do a few exclusives once the Japanese install base looks like it needs a new monster hunter or RE spin-off. I don't know why everyone worries so much. They're the same people who never buy 3rd party games anyway.

If Nintendo don't massively hype Mario Kart, Smash and X then we should worry because they won't replace the Wii U early but they will be more than happy to stop throwing money at it if it's a sales dud.

Will be right back

In what universe is there not massive hype for Mario Kart and Smash? There's mountains hype for Mario Kart in particular already. Every non-Nintendo gaming media I have listened to, read or watched has brought it up at least a few times since E3. It has been covered about as widely as The Last of Us. So Nintendo don't need to manufacture hype for that game, it's there already.

There's a load of content coming to the eShop if that's what you mean; otherwise you need to be a bit more specific about where you think support needs to come from: EA is the only company I'm aware of that's actively shunning the machine. Some companies have announced software without mentioning a Wii U release, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're not releasing anything at all for the system.

"I don't know" would be my answer, but since Nintendo isn't the only company releasing software for Wii U I don't think it's a question that needs to be asked.

Nintendo doesn't need 3rd party support for the Wii U but it would help, if the Wii U flops there will be a lot of other reasons.

WiiU already flopped and the reasons are already there.
1. It's not powerful enough for the majority of the Gamer crowd (this saddens me).
2. Frames mean Everything. (Giantbomb did a demo of Arkham City and declared the WiiU being unplayable and awful because the frames went below 30 frames but still at a playable level.)
3. The Name is just too similar to Wii and the marketing made it worse as people thought it was just an Addon for the existing Wii.
4. 3rd Party just jumping ship. (WiiU should have gotten every major Release in 2013, but a good chunk of the major releases skipped WiiU.)

Add all of that together and you get a huge Console Mess in your hands.

In the Wii U's defense:
1. A lower powered system is better for the industry (less power means lower bidget and lower risks)
2. Arkham City runs fine on Wii U (I own it and have loved it, Origins has issues but it has issues on all systems) also a game like that and other ports were not optimized for the system, could have happened to any system.
3. The name being too similar isn't the problem, Nintendo did not advertise. Also when they first announced the Wii U they only showed off the controller which caused confusion in the industry, so it is not surprising others are confused.
4. Publishers are running this industry into the ground. The longer these publishers keep pushing this type of game development thr more it will hurt when it collapse. (Obviously this is not all Publishers but the big ones)

I would not call the Wii U a flop because a console is a marathon, not a sprint. I still think Nintendo can "save" the Wii U

1. If you understood the hardware, you would know that Wii U doesn't have a "power" problm.
2. Frames do matter, but Nintendo has nothing to do with the performance of Batman: Arkham City, so what's your point?
3. Besides children, no one should have issues with being able ti recognize the difference between Wii and Wii U. I find that this issue has more to do with individuals that aren't very observant.
4. 3rd parties never even "got on board", so how exactly would they "jump ship"? BTW, rhetorical question right there. It'd be like saying you threw a rock that you never even picked up. That's impossible, so how it's one of your reasons is beyond the grasp of reality.

Is it a hot mess? LMAO stupid jack in the box commercial never left mind.
Anyways the Wii U's power is the main problem @Defhalan yes it means lower budgets and less risks but too bad the AAA videogame industry doesn't care about that. People expect the best and the industry has to deliver whether they want to or not. @SCAR392 you're right about the Wii U not having a power problem, its problem is that its power doesn't match up to the other 2 consoles. Third party support is a problem because Third parties don't make money on Nintendo consoles or they don't make as much as they do with other consoles. Also because of the Wii Us limitations compared to the other consoles making multiplatform games requires more work and not to mention the extra work it requires to integrate full use of the Wii U controller because you know people will whine if the controller's features aren't included and if they're not used in innovative ways. This also leads to what people call "watered-down" ports which leads people who own multiple consoles choosing the definitive version which we all know is never on the Wii U (except Rayman Legends). Luckily Nintendo makes amazing games so that keeps them moving forward but it would be nice to be able to have more options and that could only happen with 3rd party support.