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Topic: Will the next-gen [WiiU,PS4,X1] sell at least over 80 million units each?

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XFsWorld

No. They're are still gonna be a lot great games released on the current-gen systems (well PS3&360). Therefore a lot of people see no need to upgrade. Graphics don't sell systems, innovation and games sell systems. The DS embarrassed the PSP because of the great games it had and the touchscreen. Touchscreen gaming was very new back then and Apple's App Store came in 2008. PS2 gave the GameCube & XBox a spanking because of the tons of great games it have. Wii U is the only system I see that is likely to sell over 80 million units because of its awesome game pad and there are great 1st Party games coming to the system. PS4 & Xbox One just shows off its graphics and neither Sony's and Microsoft's 1st party games can come close to Nintendo's 1st party games. Nintendo's key to get at least 80 million units is Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Smash Bros, Animal Crossing [Believe it or Not].

What do you think?

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Jaz007

The idea that Sony's first party can't touch Nintendo's is only your personal opinion. The Wii U selling 80 M is very unlikely too, there is no way the big N's first party support will sell 80 M, the third-part support if looking pretty bad too. I can see one of the other consoles selling 80 M easier, espcially since they will actually get good third-party support. The added power does so much most than better graphics too, it will only be one of the many benifts.

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I highly doubt the Wii U will sell that many units unless something miraculous happens. The PS4 I reckon has the best chance of reaching that number, but it'll probably take some time before that ever happens.

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Who knows really? The PS360 has alot of games but their main problem is that they don't really sell well, so most companies don't even make the cash back that it cost to make those big AAA movie games... This gen will be interesting

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LordJumpMad

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Graphics don't sell systems

Pffff In what world do you live in?
The Wii U is not going to flop because it already is a flop, and the other two next gen console are not even out yet.
Right now, the Wii U's only competition are current gen consoles, and its not even able to get the same games as the PS3 and 360 are getting.

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I'm pretty sure the PS4 will do just as fine, as for One...eh who cares about Microsoft anyways, lol.

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Erica_Hartmann wrote:

I'm pretty sure the PS4 will do just as fine, as for One...eh who cares about Microsoft anyways, lol.

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BlueBubble

This "innovation" you speak of doesn't guarantee sales at all, actually.

Sales comes from identifying a gap in a market and then providing a product that fulfils the needs of that gap. I don't see any indication at all that the Wii U has found an audience at present. That's not to say that there won't be one in the future, but it's a little strange to be claiming that the Wii U can hit 80 million + unit sales when it's currently being outsold by 6+ year old technology.

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DePapier

You asked your question the wrong way for the wrong website unfortunately. The real question should be: will the PS3 and Xbox360 ever reach 80 million units?

As I doubt the PS4 and XBO will ever reach their predecessors, I don't think they'll top that going with more of the same. The Wii U, that's Nintendo, a completely different market, and having and enjoying my Wii U I won't be utterly surprised if in the end if surpasses the Wii's sales, just like I wouldn't be surprised on the long run to see the 3DS surpass the DS sales if both recent platforms enjoy an extensive longevity.

XFsWorld

Guys I went greatly overboard with the 80 million gig to see what were you guys thinking. Thanks for the feedback!

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LzWinky

The only systems that ever reached 80 million were the PS1, PS2, the Wii and the DS. That's a pretty high landmark

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LzQuacker wrote:

The only systems that ever reached 80 million were the PS1, PS2, the Wii and the DS. That's a pretty high landmark

Notice how Wii U is similar in name layout to Wii as PS2 is to PS1, and 3DS is the PS2 of PS1 Not sure if that makes sense, but those Nintendo systems are the second of that brand name.

Really though, I can see Wii U(at least) reaching a pretty high sale total. The Wii U has enough power. The difference is whether it can keep the same appeal that Wii had to the broader market and be able to push forward in graphics with the Xbox One and PS4.
Both the Xbox 360 and Wii are perfect examples of next gen systems making the push after not doing well the gen prior. I think the Xbox One will struggle pretty badly for the first couple years, then pick up fast like we expect Wii U to do this 2nd year.
The reason I think Xbox One will struggle at first, is because Wii U will probably pick up, and some may see that as the best platform to have, support wise.

As for PS4, I see it being pretty niche. There are big releases coming out for it that many people like, but it depends on how many want Uncharted, Infamous, and Killzone again. There will be indie games, but I see PS4's indie front being super niche for some reason... That's just the impression I get.

In conclusion, I predict the Wii U and Xbox One passing that number up pretty fast, then PS4 will catch-up.
The PS3 did horrible for the first 4 years(over half the gen), and now the Vita is following in its footsteps at a higher degree. That's why I think the PS brand will have a harder time making an impression this gen.

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brooks83

SCAR392 wrote:

In conclusion, I predict the Wii U and Xbox One passing that number up pretty fast, then PS4 will catch-up.

In conclusion, you predict the consoles you like to do better than the one you dislike.

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Peach64

I'm pretty sure that 360 and PS3 are easily going to hit 80 million as they're each less than 2 million away and we're going to see most big games in 2013 and 2014 continue to release on them.

As for the next gen... I think the PS4 will probably take some of the owners the 360 has this time around, but I think it will be closer than people think. Time and time again real life sales show that us forum users are just a tiny, tiny part of the market, and the Xbox One doesn't have the hate we think it does. I'm not sure about Wii U. I think there's enough hardcore Nintendo fans out there to get it to 20 million, but it all depends on what games they're working on now. If they stick with the casual/family target market I think they'll suffer as the majority of those people have moved on, but if they target the core market again, they should be able to get to 40 million.

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brooks83 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

In conclusion, I predict the Wii U and Xbox One passing that number up pretty fast, then PS4 will catch-up.

In conclusion, you predict the consoles you like to do better than the one you dislike.

Yes.

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I think all three of the consoles will struggle to meet such a high number.

Neither PS4 nor XBO are offering core gamers enough for 80 million of them to upgrade to a slightly improved graphics box. The social features of the PS4 and the TV integration of the XBO are impressive to about 4 or 5 people (though cloud streaming is definitely intriguing).

The Wii U has had tragic support and marketing. Half the people I know still think it's either a portable Wii or an HD Wii. It has the same problems that 3DS had in the beginning - lack of games and a confused audience.

A lot of consoles have a slow start and then pick up later in the generation though. The PS3 was the laughing stock of E3 2006 and lagged far behind the 360 for years - now they're neck and neck for sales and both on track to reach that 80 million mark. Still though, I think with the ballooning cost of developing AAA titles and ridiculously long development cycles, we could see another collapse of the console market. At the least, a decline.

Look at the bright side though. The Wii U is ahead of the Vita in sales. What a disaster that thing was for Sony.

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8BitSamurai

Wii U - At this rate, no. They need to find an audience, because the demographic that made the Wii such a hit is, for better or for worse, gone. My guess would be 30-50 million.

Xbox One - Not even close. Shattered reputation, and expensive. Also, the vast majority of third party games will be available on the PS4 and often PC. Also, the vast majority of MS's focus is solely set on the American market. Personally, I don't think Microsoft's first party will be near enough.

PS4 - I think so. Great value for the price, and will get almost all 3rd party games, not to mention first party.

Those are my thoughts, but then again, in the industry things can change very fast, and unpredictable outcomes are far from uncommon.

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8BitSamurai wrote:

Wii U - At this rate, no. They need to find an audience, because the demographic that made the Wii such a hit is, for better or for worse, gone. My guess would be 30-50 million.

Xbox One - Not even close. Shattered reputation, and expensive. Also, the vast majority of third party games will be available on the PS4 and often PC. Also, the vast majority of MS's focus is solely set on the American market. Personally, I don't think Microsoft's first party will be near enough.

PS4 - I think so. Great value for the price, and will get almost all 3rd party games, not to mention first party.

Those are my thoughts, but then again, in the industry things can change very fast, and unpredictable outcomes are far from uncommon.

Wii U - the "casual" audience is just as "casual" as ever. That means they're still there, and they'll probably buy Wii U over anything else. Xbox One still has Kinect, too, so I see that getting the occasionally sale that Wii U doesn't. The Wii remote is still heavily tied to the platform.

Xbox One - Who's basing their console purchase off of reputation? They can 180ºs all they want. I really don't care as long as the product shows up as good as it can be(the Wii U has the year early excuse. Xbox One and PS4 don't).

PS4 - I know it sounds like a good value, but PS3 was worth having a second job if I recall. THAT's a good value... wait...
EDIT: Also, if you really want to base your console purchase off of reputation, does PS2 BC and OtherOS ring a bell? Maybe since they already ditched some features, they'll be able to make up for it.

Seriously, there's a ton of stuff your ignoring that basically flips every single one of your points upside down.
PC gaming won't affect anything. People say it will, but will people used to buying $60 games for $10 off of Steam be able to get used to paying full price for more games? There's a WAY bigger market to be had on dedicated gaming consoles than PC.

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RobbEJay

I don't think next-gen consoles will do any better than their predecessors. The economy is bad so money is tight and theres much more competition, people are going to want cheaper forms of entertainment so many might opt to stick to their current console or other cheaper gaming platforms rather than buy another device. I don't think it'd affect their long-term success but it could mean a slow start all around since people would be more willing or even have to wait for a price drop.

PC gaming probably won't change too much unless something like the Steam Box comes out, assuming it does well enough. There will be people moving to PC but still probably not enough to make a big impact. As long as there are enough console exclusives and consoles remain more conveniant they'll probably stick around.

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