@skywake: I don't know hardware enough to put that together, and I won't ever invest that much into parts in the first place. I'd rather stick to consoles and handhelds, even if their release schedule is a bit dry
Well that's fair enough but that wasn't what I was saying. I was simply saying that the idea that PC gaming is thousands of dollars and lots of work is nonsense. Walk into a reputable PC shop, give them marginally more money than a PS4/XBOne costs. You'll walk out with something that's a higher spec gaming machine that's also a much more versatile machine.
Not quite - the hard drive is going to drag the entire system's performance down. The processor is also a bit underpowered as well.
HDD performance impacts load times and little else. Plus the PS4/XBOne use drives that are probably about the same spec just more compact and they're fine. Console gaming load times have been limited by optical media speeds for ages, HDD performance is like an SSD compared to Blu-Ray. CPU performance? Yeah, the thing's underpowered. However it won't bottleneck a 750ti so why go higher?
It's not going to be gold plated at $800AU, every dollar you cut from that point is going to be a compromise. PS4 does it for $550AU and they're damn good value right now but they're barely doing 1080p gaming for their price. They couldn't fit in an SSD either. A machine that an reliably do 30fps+ at 1080p with high details with that spec for $800? It ain't bad.
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@gagewolf
Exactly. People have the same idea about Nintendo and Microsoft. Even Wii U's software lineup is slow, people are willing to buy and be patient.
@AlexSays
That's the thing. We don't know how the rest of 8th gen will go, so Sony "dominating" the console space isn't guaranteed. If you want to be critical of Nintendo or Microsoft, be critical about Sony, as well. What is something you want Sony to improve on?
Exactly? Well obviously people don't have the same idea about Nintendo and Microsoft... that's why PS4 is outselling the other two. That's the point. Even with Xbone's first killer app, Titanfall, out in the wild the PS4 is still selling 2-1... and well the Wii U has all sorts of Issues. You can make all the justifications in your mind that you want, but dem's da facts.
@gage_wolf
Ya, so Mario and Titanfall don't appeal to people who currently own or are intending to buy PS4. I'm not surprised. Maybe that's why they bought a PS4, in the first place, besides whatever may interest them on PS4.
The point is that people who DO have a Wii U or Xbox One are just as excited as PS4 owners. There's less people, but that doesn't change the attitude of wanting either one to do well and have cool stuff.
For the most part yep. I can wait till smash Bros and X to get a Wii U. On the Microsoft front had a mainline halo been out alongside killer instinct I would have gone xbone.
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@gage_wolf
Ya, so Mario and Titanfall don't appeal to people who currently own or are intending to buy PS4. I'm not surprised. Maybe that's why they bought a PS4, in the first place, besides whatever may interest them on PS4.
The point is that people who DO have a Wii U or Xbox One are just as excited as PS4 owners. There's less people, but that doesn't change the attitude of wanting either one to do well and have cool stuff.
Sigh Does that point really need to be made? I was responding to DefHalan in his quest to find out why the PS4 is selling well. At no point did I say "Yeah, man Wii U & Xbone owners must be really unexcited for the future of their consoles." You have no point.
EDIT: Though I will say the future of the Wii U is the bleakest of the three at the moment. If I didn't already own a Wii U at this point, I'm not sure I would recommend it to someone looking to buy a new system.
For the most part yep. I can wait till smash Bros and X to get a Wii U. On the Microsoft front had a mainline halo been out alongside killer instinct I would have gone xbone.
If The Last Guardian or Dark Souls 2 were announced I would have picked up a PS4 by now.
@gage_wolf
Ya, so Mario and Titanfall don't appeal to people who currently own or are intending to buy PS4. I'm not surprised. Maybe that's why they bought a PS4, in the first place, besides whatever may interest them on PS4.
The point is that people who DO have a Wii U or Xbox One are just as excited as PS4 owners. There's less people, but that doesn't change the attitude of wanting either one to do well and have cool stuff.
Sigh Does that point really need to be made? I was responding to DefHalan in his quest to find out why the PS4 is selling well. At no point did I say "Yeah, man Wii U & Xbone owners must be really unexcited for the future of their consoles." You have no point.
Well, if everyone is super excited about PS4, then perhaps there are more reasons to be excited for Xbox One and Wii U than we originally thought.
So Mario and Titanfall don't appeal to people who currently own or are intending to buy PS4. I'm not surprised. Maybe that's why they bought a PS4, in the first place, besides whatever may interest them on PS4.
Same reason people got a PS2, SNES, 360 or Gameboy. Same reason why people still build PCs for gaming. Not necessarily for one big exclusive game but because it's a cost-effective platform that's most likely to get long-term support. What games are they buying the PS4 for? Not Sony games or games out already. They're buying the PS4 for ALL OF THE FUTURE GAMES.
In a nutshell people are buying the PS4 for the same reason people aren't buying the Wii U. Because when GTA 6 or Assassin's Creed 6 come out it'll definitely be on the PS4. Period. Equally it's the same reason why people on this forum DID buy the Wii U. Not because we wanted Nintendo Land and New SMB desperately. We got it because when the next big Nintendo game comes out it'll be on the Wii U. What game is it? We don't know (probably Zelda) but we'll have the console that'll play it.
@skywake
Definitely. I gotta have Smash Bros, Mario Kart, and Zelda. I'm not as excited about Mario or even Pokemon, as much as those games.
If Wii U had more 3rd party support, I would buy them for that, even if Xbox One or PS4 had them with a few extra lights or explosion particles, because of the GamePad, I did end up getting an Xbox One Titanfall bundle, BTW.
I'm pretty sure that it's expected for things to improve, instead of "get worse".
So Mario and Titanfall don't appeal to people who currently own or are intending to buy PS4. I'm not surprised. Maybe that's why they bought a PS4, in the first place, besides whatever may interest them on PS4.
Same reason people got a PS2, SNES, 360 or Gameboy. Same reason why people still build PCs for gaming. Not necessarily for one big exclusive game but because it's a cost-effective platform that's most likely to get long-term support. What games are they buying the PS4 for? Not Sony games or games out already. They're buying the PS4 for ALL OF THE FUTURE GAMES.
In a nutshell people are buying the PS4 for the same reason people aren't buying the Wii U. Because when GTA 6 or Assassin's Creed 6 come out it'll definitely be on the PS4. Period. Equally it's the same reason why people on this forum DID buy the Wii U. Not because we wanted Nintendo Land and New SMB desperately. We got it because when the next big Nintendo game comes out it'll be on the Wii U. What game is it? We don't know (probably Zelda) but we'll have the console that'll play it.
HDD performance impacts load times and little else. Plus the PS4/XBOne use drives that are probably about the same spec just more compact and they're fine. Console gaming load times have been limited by optical media speeds for ages, HDD performance is like an SSD compared to Blu-Ray. CPU performance? Yeah, the thing's underpowered. However it won't bottleneck a 750ti so why go higher?
I would agree with you 100%...if you're not playing MMORPGs or any online game that does dynamic content loading. In those cases the speed of your hard drive has an even bigger impact on performance than CPU speed.
In your standard single player or limited-asset online play though, HDD speed is meaninless, yep.
I would agree with you 100%...if you're not playing MMORPGs or any online game that does dynamic content loading. In those cases the speed of your hard drive has an even bigger impact on performance than CPU speed.
HDD performance impacts load times and little else.
Just like how you made a point of saying the i3 was a low end CPU. It is indeed a low end CPU but the way things are right now it doesn't really make a huge difference for the vast majority of games. Looking at an article about it now the lowest end CPUs on the market cut high end GPU performance in half. The i3 cuts it by 20%. The entry level i5 cuts it by ~5%. The cheapest i7 lets it spread its wings and the extreme edition offers no additional benefit. That's with a high end card. The 750ti is a mid-range card..... there probably won't be a huge difference and it definitely won't be ~$100+ worth.
@thatguyEZ
Then why were people comparing Wii U's library to Xbox 360 and PS3? That makes even less sense. People criticised Wii U for it's software library, and now it has more. Whether you care or acknowledge that is up to you.
Well, if Morpheus isn't a gimmick, then the GamePad totally isn't a gimmick. We're talking a VR headset that will need even more resources, and finally gives the much hated Move a bit of recognition among PS gamers. I'm pretty confident that alot of what shows up on Oculus will show up on Morpheus, though.
I don't hate PS4, but your kidding yourself if you think it's the ideal console for everyone.
When did I compare the Wii U library to 360 or PS3? I don't do that because I know it doesn't make sense. And I realize at the moment that the Wii U has more software than the PS4, and good for it. I'll stick with my 3DS for now though because the U just doesn't have anything that I must have atm. But Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei may well push me into buying one. And I never once said I thought the Gamepad was a gimmick because I don't think it is. And third, not once did I say the PS4 is everyones' ideal console that's why people buy other systems.
@thatguyEZ
I'm talking overall, bro. I know you didn't compare the Wii U library to Xbox 360/PS3(as far as I've seen, but I'll take your word for it).
People had BS reasons to not buy Wii U, apparently. "It's too expensive" doesn't make sense, becayse everything is more expensive. "No games" currently doesn't make sense, because it has more. "The GamePad is a mistake/gimmick" is being stupid.
My point is that I've heard this nonsense all over the internet. Either people are trolling, or don't know WTF they're saying. The attitude always adapts to whoever's favor. For example, the debate isn't whether Wii U has games anymore, it's whether it will get games in the future. This could have been subsided by accepting it takes time to build a software library, one year before PS4 launched. PS4 effects the market, but if consumer choice is based on self fulfilled prophecy, it doesn't really even matter what happens in the market.
I think when people are saying "No Games", they mean "too few AAA games". The Wii U has plenty of smaller, downloadable titles, but full scale boxed titles are few and far between, and there's only a handful of third party games. You're right to say that the Wii U doesn't have games, but the lineup is pretty much unacceptably sparse for a current gen console even 1 year in.
My personal feeling on the Wii U's lineup is not that it has no games, but it has no INTERESTING games. There's far too many rehashy games like NSMBU, 3D World, and Tropical Freeze out there that neither demonstrate next gen gameplay with the Gamepad, or any new, interesting gameplay mechanic whatsoever. When I see more games like say, Sunshine and Galaxy (note, I do not mean make Sunshine 2 and Galaxy 3, I mean make an original game concept that shows the unique, innovative gameplay for the Wii U in the same way that Sunshine and Galaxy did for the Gamecube and Wii respectively) over NSMBU and 3D World, then I'd be willing to buy a Wii U.
I do actually agree just from a personal preference perspective that I own the literally 4 games (ok 5, I don't own Game and Wario aka "at least it's not Wii Play") that makes Wii U not feel like Wii (EXCEPT HD!!!).
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