Topic: Super Smash Bros. for Wii U - OT

Then again, it's not as bad as killing Cloud with cans, pigeons and duck snaps

Were the non-Japanese directs subtitled or dubbed?

Dubbed.

@Tsuchinoko Europe's had subtitles while NA's was dubbed. I believe that is usually how each region does their directs/presentations.

@yokokazuo: interesting. I remember him saying something different than the quoted "last new character" bit in the Japanese direct. I have to look at it again.

Btw, first controversial Smash 5 prediction: Cloud is first cut.

It's WAAAAAAAAAAAY too early to be thinking about a hypothetical Smash 5. Let's just enjoy what we've got, hm?

@TeeJay: oh, Im not being pessimistic or anything, totally objective. There's reasons.

@Tsuchinoko: naaa just wait till squre gets a taste of that sweet sweet easy to make amiibo money. When they release the smash wiiu complete collection on the nx he will be there. We may even get paid dlc for sora.

@faint: i honestly hope you're right, and that Konami comes crawling back and tries to get their collective life together and bring Snake in for the third-party party.

@Tsuchinoko: I would even go as far to guess that square will get more money for every cloud amiibo sold than sega gets for sonic. Square has always been good at negotiations. This partnership will be very lucrative for them. All they have to do from here on out is sign papers and collect money. After how konami treated kojima I personally wouldn't want to work with them if I was Nintendo but who knows.

Does anyone know what "KBG" means? I'm going through the patch notes and I can't figure out what it means.
Also, It's about time Kirby got a buff.

@VeeFlamesNL: KBG means Knock Back Growth.

Basically, how stronger the moves get when the opponent has more damage percent IIRC.

Happy about the patch. Shulk got buffed a lot again (less landing lag in aerials and more damage outputs almost all attacks)

That looks too much like The KGB, as in Komitet gosudarstvennoy bezopasnosti.

Oh, can someone explain Dedede's changes? What exactly do they do?

@VeeFlamesNL: Gridatttack pretty much has it. It's just the measure of how quickly the knockback on an attack builds based on the damage of the receiving opponent. For example, Fox's laser has no knockback growth (mostly cause it has no knockback), Mario's forward tilt has average/good KBG, and Ike's just about everything and Cloud's Final Touch have excellent KBG.

Nah, Snake needs to be exclusive to Pachinko machines...complete with pachinko insurance, horse armor, and lawyers

@Gridatttack: @UGXwolf: Ah, makes sense now. Thanks very much!

"Well, for STARTERS the characters are all over the place in the character select screen. Also, Dr. Mario and Dark Pit? C'mon! Why would Sakurai bother wasting a character slot on two clones? Get real! They're going to be costumes, if anything. And why are there three Miis in their icon? What, are they supposed to be three fighters instead of just one? Also, Wii Fit Trainer? REALLY? "Greninja"? LOL! What, is that supposed to be the final evolution of Froakie? Nice try, buddy! Besides, it's obviously just a photo-shopped Little Mac. 8-Player Smash? HAH! In your dreams. That's just too good to be true, like Megaman and Ryu. I mean, c'mon! Crapcom hates Megaman, and why would Capcom get TWO reps? And then there's Cloud. FF VII wasn't even on a Nintendo console! Why would he get in instead of someone like Black Mage? And finally, is that a Gamecube Controller that Player 1 is using? The Wii U can't use Gamecube Controllers! Please...this is the fakest leak I've every seen! Next you'll be telling me that Bayonetta is in this and not K Rool!"

@NintendoFan64: "And there are tons of anime Fire Emblem characters! What is this, Super Smash Fire Emblem Bros.? Hah. The guy who made this leak must love Fire Emblem, he might as well throw in the main dragon anime character in the Fire Emblem game that releases 4 years from now! There's no way this can be real! And why is Duck Hunt in the game? That dogs is probably the most hated protagonist in any game.
This leaker is quite the expert, though. This is just too impossible. 8 player Smash? Can the Wii U even handle that? HAHAAHA!"

Didn't they just barely make 8 player smash in?