Topic: Super Smash Bros. for Wii U - OT

Rosalina is a nightmare. It's basically like fighting two people at the same time. She's so large and trying to get close to her is hard because Luma is always in the way. The only time I can get a good hit on her is if Luma has fallen away, and even then, he will come back within a few seconds. I know this was patched and he doesn't recover as quickly as he used to but I still think it should take like 15 seconds or so until he can come back.

Diddy is also very annoying but I'd rather deal with him than Rosalina.

NL has spoken!
Which is more annoying to deal with: Diddy or Rosalina?

So no one has a problem with Yoshi's flutter kick down attack besides me?

I couldn't help but think of Diddy Kong when watching this episode of Extra Credits

I have ordered a GC adapter and controller but haven't got it in the mail yet. Can anyone tell me, does it feel like there is more of an input lag when playing online compared to other Wii U controllers?

So far, I feel like the 3DS has the best input in the controls as long as you have a good connection.

Guys can somebody help me? I've created a custom stage but the music track I selected sucked. Is there a way to change the music track without starting over from scratch? Stage Builder is half broken in this game thanks.

Yes. Just choose to edit the stage, and go to when you name it. You can change the music track there.

In my opinion the cheapest characters are diddy, rosaluma, and yoshi.

Rosaluma is hard to punish and she has a lot of range.
Yoshi has like no landing lag and his up b jump should only happen once.

I would love to, but since there is no cross-region play it might be difficult.

@tarrazu Im curious about your Zelda strategy.

Oh that ladder is is an amazing move.

Im in Japan. Do you have the Japanese version of the game?

Oh really? I had no idea. I can't play right now but I might be able to tomorrow or the day after.

Ehhh... Throw in Bowser, Link and Zero Suit Samus too.

Neither. Diddy is predictable, and Rosalina is floaty. They're both some of the better characters in the game, but good players shouldn't lose to mediocre players that use them for easy wins (read: people who don't actually main them).

I agree especially as neither character has some kind of move that gets you infinitely trapped like Little Mac's neutral A.

Personally, I've found Ike to be amazingly effective against Rosaluma (go figure). His high launching power nearly OHKO's Luma in most likely situations. (Rosaluma's tend to stay near the ledge in this scenario, hoping to take advantage of Ike's dismal air game.) After that, Rosie tends to be in a bit of a pickle.

Link is only cheap when lag is present. A clever Link will know how to switch up projectiles and close-range to keep their opponent on their toes. Bombs are amazingly useful in a lot of situations and those smashes are ALL deadly. But no single thing on him is OP or particularly cheap. Annoying, potentially. Cheap? No.

Yoshi is a rather amusing dilemma of an opponent, since his air game is great, but his recovery is all kinds of pathetic. Yoshi's can be very annoying, but I wouldn't really call them "cheap." (They do represent a wonderful FOO strategy for this game, vaulting off of the video someone posed earlier.) Yoshi gets punished easily and can't really compete with most ranged characters from a distance or most close-range characters up close. Yoshi's also easy to punish, (just don't let that full down-air get you or that hard work will be for nothing.) so just keep an eye on him, play it safe, and make him regret everything he does. (Also, you're complaining about the VERY minimal upwards movement he gets from his up-B? It gives him an effective fourth and fifth jump, sure, but really only the first one is even worth all that much.)

Bowser is a similar case. He's very powerful, and if left unattended in an FfA, he can do some SERIOUS damage, but... he's slow... and reads easier than a 3rd grade textbook... and has so much recovery lag, he makes Wolf look fast. Seriously, most of Bowser's "good" moves can get punished by even the newest of players, if they read the pattern. They even nerfed his suicide to keep it from granting him victory.

As for Zero Suit, yeah, I think she does the all-rounder thing a bit TOO well. She's not exactly an EASY character to play as, but she's a bit TOO easy for how good she can be. And Diddy... Diddy's just plain annoying. All around. I'm sure we'll develop counter strategies over time, but for now, he's just so ridiculous.

You... you are aware you can DI out of that... right?

I've found recently that you can get a back air off of a down throw if you maneuver quick enough, mostly only works at low percentages though, but it's a good damage builder.

So this means you Like Ike? But like all heavy fighter it all depends if you actually get near them and not have your opponent jump around like an annoying crazy person.

What if Smash Tournaments were separated into weight classes? Each character would be placed in one of five weight classes. Just for example:
Heavy - DK, Bowser
Mid-Heavy - Ike
Mid - Link, Mario
Light-Mid - Yoshi
Light - Diddy, Shiek

I think at first people would gravitate to Light class (mainly for Diddy) but the multiple weight classes could add variety while still allowing for All-Class tournaments. Just a thought.

I fing Yoshis to be very frustrating. Eggs, the range of his grabs(if he is running) and the range of his dash A's(I could D-dodge, but it's still annoying).
Rosalina? The one thing I hate when attacking her is if the Luma alone receives the brunt of your attacks, if not all, amd her up air. Her up air's devilish.
Diddy Kong? TBF, I haven't met many GOOD Diddys, so yeah, I can manage.
Mega Man? Spamming time. Enough said.
Link? He can zone really well with his projectiles, but otherwise I can manage with him, too.
Bottom line, Yoshis are ridiculous... to me, that is. X(