Topic: Rayman Legends delayed

Maybe, but Ubisoft created this situation by setting expectations, so it's really their own fault. They still have the power to fix it by doing the right thing by Wii U owners - it's not too late!

What Ubisoft should have done was release Legends later this February as scheduled, but then announced at a later date that it would be ported to 360 & PS3. ALL the fans would have (at least) been (more) happy then, and Ubisoft would have looked like a hero!
Although some may be a little annoyed that it wouldn't be an exclusive anymore, It sure hurt that at the same time for us they suddenly took it away from us so early from release, and it doesn't help watching the ads around November: "Coming at launch exclusively to Wii U!"

I've probably just repeated what everyone else has said in this thread, but that's just my thoughts.

Just because Ubisoft was in the wrong doesn't mean we should further damage third party support. If the Wii U version sells well enough, it proves to them that the system is worth supporting and they would likely start supporting it again. If it sells bad, they're likely to abandon the system entirely. Boycotting will almost certainly not accomplish what is intended.

As for Ubisoft fixing this, I doubt they'll suddenly bring the release date closer again for the Wii U version; I've never seen a release date change back after being pushed and besides, it's likely that they have no choice in changing release dates again due to Microsoft's terms for multiplatform releases on their console, and canceling the 360 version would give them even worse backlash at this point.

I honestly don't see a move they can make right now. The Facebook post about the demo has been a negative comment magnet this weekend with over 2,400 comments. When you look at previous posts they have made all the was back to December on all types of games and events people are commenting about this issue.

Ubisoft won't be able to make any annoucements about anything without being over run will enraged gamers. Their Facebook page is almost worthless to them right now as is the Uplay community in the Miiverse. It is all anyone is talking about in these communities and the longer Ubisoft is staying silent the worse it will end up being for them.

Right and I helped elect Bush Jr. when I voted my conscience and ticked the box for Ralph Nader. You know at some point people have to do what they think is right and damn the consequences. If Ubisoft tanks as a result of people boycotting Rayman in September (and to be perfectly honest given how capricious gamers tend to be I'll be surprised if people stick to their guns on this), then it will send a message to other 3rd parties that if they want sales on the Wii U they have to take the Wii U userbase seriously. Of course Ubisoft won't likely tank and they won't likely feel like they can afford to ignore a console with x-millions of systems out there so they'll continue to publish Rabbids and Just Dance games or whatever on the Wii U just like in the past.

Realistically I think the worst outcome will be if Rayman Legends fails to wow on any platform it might mean the series takes a hiatus for awhile. I would like to think that something more will come of this event, but I rather doubt it, just like I rather doubt the Wii U is doomed.

Unfortunately, it's a very easy target for developers and publishers to take the "that console's owners don't like to be screwed over so we're going to treat them nicely" and turn a game's poor sales into "the userbase simply isn't interested enough in that genre to buy into it, so we made a conscious decision not to release that game on that console."

I'll still be getting the game - though not necessarily at launch, depending on what else is out around the time - because I feel sorry for the developers and because I still want the Wii U version of the game to do well. I just can't see a "poor sales" situation ending well, because we all know pretty much every publisher will take that as "userbase not interested" and we'll continue to be screwed over by far bigger forces than Ubisoft.

Other third parties are too busy with their own games to pay attention to what Ubisoft is doing. If the sales do tank, a lot of them will simply use the game as another example why they should avoid third party development for the Wii U; consequentially, if it does well then they have a good reason to develop for the system. People are not looking at a large enough scope to see how these kind of things could affect third party development in general. Nintendo has hardly had third party support for a long time and other companies surely noticed Ubisoft's early support for the system. So what they see is someone finally threw a bone to Nintendo consumers and what happened? They through a tantrum when the company pissed them off and refused to buy the product. If I was in charge of a development company in our economy, I'd see that as a sign to simply not deal with the hassle of Wii U development. If Microsoft has any sort of requirements for multiplatform titles, they likely are confidential so Ubisoft can't say, "Microsoft bullied us into changing the release date". So, to other companies, it looks like Wii U development is all or nothing: if they support the system, they have to do so exclusively, else they walk on eggshells and risk upsetting a fickle fanbase. With how the Nintendo fanbase acts, it will be a long time before we have some good third party support. Ubisoft won't tank, and neither is the Wii U doomed, but if we want to be taken seriously by third party developers we need to be willing to accept multiplatform releases along with all the strings that come with them (simultaneous releases due to competitors' requirements), we can't get upset over not getting a game first. Ubisoft isn't run by idiots, though I'm also not saying they're perfect. But there very likely are things out of their control preventing them from releasing it to the Wii U ahead of the other versions, because they obviously know it would be more profitable for them to release the Wii U version now and let it start selling. Ubisoft is trying to treat Nintendo equally to its competitors, unlike most third parties have been doing for awhile, and all we're telling them with this boycott is that we insist to be treated better than Sony or Microsoft fans, in which case most third parties will continue to avoid us and our extra baggage.

Exactly. Thank you, at least somewhere here seems to get it.

Truth is, right now Ubisoft is damned if they do and damned if they don't. They put themselves in a corner and even if they regret so now, any move they make will pretty much piss off someone. If they want to release the Wii U version they likely can't make it multiplatform due to terms the other companies have given, and so that option pisses off Sony and Microsoft fans. Keeping things how they are will piss of Nintendo fans. It's lose-lose, but the 360 and PS3 install bases are bigger so logically if they have to piss off someone, they're going to go with what makes less people upset. Yes, they probably messed up but there's no real way to remedy it now.

This sums up my feelings pretty well:

They say one of the hardest things to say is "sorry" and admit you've made a mistake, but, I don't see any reason why Ubisoft can't hold their hands up and admit they were wrong over the delay of Rayman Legends on Wii U and go ahead and release it this month as planned, all Wii U owners will then be happy, Ubisoft should also be happy as I'm sure the Wii U version will be picked up by many if it's released NOW!

& PS3/Xbox 360 owners can still be happy knowing that they will be getting a game they never even expected to get at a later date.

I see no reason/excuse why this can't be done, and I think the majority of people would be happy with this.

Yeah, it's quite hypocritical of Ubisoft to make this move, but a smart decision overall.

I agree Clifford. What's the Fench expression for "eating crow?"

^ This ^

Wasn't gonna get this game anyways, but sucks for the people with a Wii U that were.

I played a little game on the Ubisoft facebook page to see how far back I had to go to find a post where none of the recent comments have anything to do with the Rayman Legend disaster. I had to go back to January 9 and a post about "The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot" Every other post (of which there were 30) had negative comments about their decision. I should point out that the last comment on that post was dated Jan 19. I also went back and I couldn't find any comments of PS3 or 360 owners expressing disappointment over RL not being on those platforms. Not exactly sure what Ubisoft monitors for feedback they respond to, but it wasn't on their facebook page.

Usually when the horse is dead and no longer moving people will stop hitting it, but with Ubisoft not making any statement at all, the comments are still being posted. Any type of movement by Ubisoft at this point would just prove they still have life in them and will serve as a shot of 5-hour energy to the fans they had hoped would have wore themselves out over the weekend. Like I said before, that page is worthless to them right now. If they had an announcement about ANYTHING they would be over run. It will be interesting to see how long a company can stay relevant without being allowed to say anything.

^ Ha Ha!

I now hope Ubisoft cancels the Wii U version out of pure, unadulterated spite.

There is one thing I hate about the games community more than any other and that's gamers seem to think they have the right to hold a company to ransom and disrupt everyone who is well adjusted from enjoying their conversations with the company.

Diablo 3, Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2, Infamous 2 and now Rayman. It's not even a case of entitled gamers. It's a case of entitled children who didn't get the lollipop mummy bought in the supermarket RIGHT NOW.

So, might as well go the full monty and really piss off the Nintendo fans now. It's not like there's enough of them to matter. Port the game to iPad 4 instead and Ubisoft will rake in the cash.

pikmin next for delay no doubt

That probably is the best move. Where they hurt themselves is making comments about "giving the fans what they want" and "we are listening" when anyone that can use google can point to examples where that doesn't seem to be true.