Topic: Nintendo Movement by Shokio, what do you think?

i agree

Its reasonable until you realize all your compettiers save for Microsoft do it for free.

It reminds me of iOS in the first couple of years of the iPad. Mist aop makers would have two versions of the game that did the same thing but one being optimized for iPads. That quickly went out the window when they realized people were just buying the iPhone version for cheaper and 2Xing it on the iPad screen.

A large discount would be great but I'm not sure how much it would change the way I purchase NES games. The main reason I've been upgrading the Wii VC titles for that fee is because WiiMode is a pain. I'm not sure if I would actually bother to pay a fee to move the NES titles I have on Wii U to 3DS or visa versa.

However cross-platform discounts is definitely something I would be behind. I'd also be behind this move if the 3DS VC expanded into SNES games or if it also expanded to cover more stuffs. For example Mighty Switch Force, which come to think of it is another game I have on both, I wasn't really that interested in. Then they had that indie-discount deal. That's when I got it.

I just think that the way the Wii U eShop recognises Wii VC purchases and other Wii U eShop purchases is a big deal. When you get a discount on something when you've already brought the similar thing due to an ongoing deal or sale. That probably accounts for a fair chunk of the stuff I buy on the Wii U eShop. If they expanded that to cover both and have both recognise the purchases then that would be a whole new level of deals.

You're right, Sony charges all the time for their cross-buy tit-oh...

Same thing goes for the Wii/U transfers charging a dollar to use "the enhanced Wii U features", it's ridiculous they're charging people for the same game to be used on their new system.

I know Playstation 4 lets me play all my Playstation 3 games without payin... oh wait. The upgrade charge from Wii to Wii U is well worth it and is there do to the extra work Nintendo has put into these new VC game releases. Having a small charge for cross-buy makes more sense than giving away their work. If Nintendo decides to start giving away their hard work that is their choice but we should not be demanding them to give it away.

It's ridiculous that everyone finds the smallest things to complain about then blow them way out of proportion

That example doesn't work whatsoever because the PlayStation 4 is, as of now, unable to play any PlayStation 3 games due to architecture differences, not emulation and ROMs, like the Wii U/Nintendo 3DS Virtual Console. A better comparison would be PlayStation 1/X titles, games which are actually shared between three different systems, or PlayStation Portable titles, which are shared between two. Unfortunately, those are shared between any systems with the compatibility between the purchased digital title.

The same hard work that has the Virtual Console in such a stale state compared the Wii, i'd imagine, no? Emulation is not a difficult task for a hardware company, let alone one who were able to do so on less capable hardware with a far grander library of titles and systems to recreate. It's a matter of putting a ROM up for sale, as evident by the many individuals who were able to put ROMs of titles onto their 3DS' and emulate them seamlessly:

In short, it's not effort. None whatsoever.

This in a nutshell.

It's ridiculous that everyone finds the smallest things to complain about then blow them way out of proportion

Paying for something that would normally be free on other systems is not a small dilemma.

Sorry that I'm a student that is going to Uni in the Autumn and hasn't got unlimited funds so likes to get the most bang for my buck.

Right! They just need to inject the ROMs into the emulator and just release them as fast as possible. No point in in-depth testing them to make sure they work properly, it's not needed. Quality control? More like quantity control.

I think a lot of people are confused about what others are saying.

I don't think anyone is against Cross-Buying. Sure more bang for your buck is always great.

What I am saying, and I think others but don't want to speak for them, is that we aren't owed Cross-Buying. Nintendo doesn't owe us this just like they didn't owe early adopters of the 3DS free games, they chose to give them games.

If Nintendo wants to give us a Cross-Buying option then that is their decision and I don't think anyone will disagree. We shouldn't be demanding it from them as there are many factors that we are not aware of. Just because others do it doesn't make it good for everyone.

Good that you've come to our side.

@DefHalan

I don't think anyone is against Cross-Buying. Sure more bang for your buck is always great.

Agreed

What I am saying, and I think others but don't want to speak for them, is that we aren't owed Cross-Buying. Nintendo doesn't owe us this just like they didn't owe early adopters of the 3DS free games, they chose to give them games.

Of course they don't owe us them, but when they're most direct competitor does it than it reflects badly upon Nintendo.

If Nintendo wants to give us a Cross-Buying option then that is their decision and I don't think anyone will disagree. We shouldn't be demanding it from them as there are many factors that we are not aware of. Just because others do it does make it good for everyone.

While ultimately its up to nintendo they need to hear fan input. We as fans should demand the best services and bang for our buck as possible. By your logic we should have bent over to the Xbox One DRM.

I know this isn't popular opinion, and I don't think the DRM was a good idea, BUT there were somethings that developers could take advantage do to the DRM that they cannot guarantee now and some nice things for consumers.

The number 1 thing the developers could have taken advantage of would be the consumers.

Seriously though, name some things. I have pretty much agreed with you for most of this thread, I'm just curious to hear what some positives DRM would bring.. however off topic it may be.

Here are 6
http://www.gamesradar.com/6-great-features-youre-losing-xbox-...

^Ahh, well I guess some of those are pretty good positives for those who like digital gaming. I myself prefer physical still though. I've always disliked the idea of needing the internet to play any of the games I buy. Well, unless it's an MMO of course.

As someone who has over 250 Steam games, I wouldn't mind some of those features. Also I know my Wii U is always connected to he internet. i don't take to friends houses, mostly they come to my place. The only time my Wii U isn't connected is when my internet isn't working, which rarely happens. So it wouldn't have bothered me, but I am not getting an Xbox One so my opinion doesn't really matter on that subject lol

I think the Xbox DRM debacle involved more than just complaining. Journalists and even Sony (through brilliant marketing) were pressuring Microsoft to change its DRM policies. Microsoft basically had the whole world against them

While ultimately its up to nintendo they need to hear fan input. We as fans should demand the best services and bang for our buck as possible. By your logic we should have bent over to the Xbox One DRM.

To an extent, yes. However, not everyone's wishes will come true...even though some of these things should happen