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rolLTheDice

< won't register just for reading that article

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VoodooTrumpet

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xj220_afiles

Good article ! This strategy with HL3 being on SteamOS only tough is good ... but at the same time risky... Despite the fact that this game is very (I mean VERY)popular, it mignt not be enough for people to switch to SteamOs. Don't get me wrong, SteamOS is awesome but it's also based on Linux and there are not that many games on Linux right now. I'm not sure that many gamer would quit windows for SteamOs just for one game. Still this article really express what I think now more than ever. The best combination right now is a good PC + Nintendo !

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ThePirateCaptain

First off, Valve has said that they are not making any games exclusively for Valve OS and have encouraged other developers not to do so either.

I doubt that the Steam Machines are going to impact the console market very much. They're tailored more towards PC gamers in the first place. If you're not into PC gaming, then a $400 dollar PS4 probably looks a lot more appealing than a $1000 Steam Machine.

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ricklongo

I frankly don't buy it. As far as I've seen, Steam machines will be extremely expensive if you're looking to be able to play all of the most graphically-demanding games. I don't see PS4 sales slowing down anytime soon, since those have been coming more out of powerful brand hype and marketing than actual blockbuster exclusives released for the platform.

He's right about Nintendo, though, as I believe their market share will be even less threatened by Valve.

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rolLTheDice

Sorry Sony, but when most shows are still released as DVD's here and when you make me pretty certain a high number of the flicks just rerereleased as BluRays will be rererereleased as 4K discs soon that only leaves a few interesting 3D and music ones for me.

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unrandomsam

CapnPancakes wrote:

First off, Valve has said that they are not making any games exclusively for Valve OS and have encouraged other developers not to do so either.

I doubt that the Steam Machines are going to impact the console market very much. They're tailored more towards PC gamers in the first place. If you're not into PC gaming, then a $400 dollar PS4 probably looks a lot more appealing than a $1000 Steam Machine.

Depends how much you spend on games. If the average game is 20$ less then when is the break even point that determines whether it is worth it.

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Punished_Boss_84

People still just don't get it.

Exclusives don't have that much significance, not on their lonesome.

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unrandomsam

Punished_Boss_84 wrote:

People still just don't get it.

Exclusives don't have that much significance, not on their lonesome.

Well they are the only reason for me to have a Wii U (And a pretty good one as far as I am concerned).

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Punished_Boss_84

unrandomsam wrote:

Punished_Boss_84 wrote:

People still just don't get it.

Exclusives don't have that much significance, not on their lonesome.

Well they are the only reason for me to have a Wii U (And a pretty good one as far as I am concerned).

Good reason? Sure. 9 million Wii Us in 2+ yrs versus PS4 & X1 20m & 10m 1+ yr, it's not a good enough one in the grand scheme of things.

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iKhan

The steam machines are pretty much pointless though.

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unrandomsam

At least the more popular ones will end up as a tested hardware spec. (That is one of the main problems with PC Gaming. The other one has been fixed by gsync/freesync).

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SkywardLink98

CapnPancakes wrote:

First off, Valve has said that they are not making any games exclusively for Valve OS and have encouraged other developers not to do so either.

I doubt that the Steam Machines are going to impact the console market very much. They're tailored more towards PC gamers in the first place. If you're not into PC gaming, then a $400 dollar PS4 probably looks a lot more appealing than a $1000 Steam Machine.

Ironically, most PC gamers I know would rather build a PC than buy one prebuilt. Since there's nothing really exclusive to a Steam Machine (the OS can be downloaded onto any machine iirc) you are better off simply building your own machine and cutting out the cost of assembly.

My SD Card with the game on it is just as physical as your cartridge with the game on it.
I love Nintendo, that's why I criticize them so harshly.

DefHalan

SkywardLink98 wrote:

CapnPancakes wrote:

First off, Valve has said that they are not making any games exclusively for Valve OS and have encouraged other developers not to do so either.

I doubt that the Steam Machines are going to impact the console market very much. They're tailored more towards PC gamers in the first place. If you're not into PC gaming, then a $400 dollar PS4 probably looks a lot more appealing than a $1000 Steam Machine.

Ironically, most PC gamers I know would rather build a PC than buy one prebuilt. Since there's nothing really exclusive to a Steam Machine (the OS can be downloaded onto any machine iirc) you are better off simply building your own machine and cutting out the cost of assembly.

I think the Steam Machines will have a bigger impact on the Developer side of the Industry and less on the Consumer side of the Industry.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

ThePirateCaptain

To me the Steam Machines are a very strange concept simply because their function is already achieved through Big Picture mode and the new Steam Link. If you already have a good PC then you can stream to your TV no problem, so the machines are in a tough spot. They're trying to appeal to the console crowd but I'm just not sure how effective it is going to be.

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CaviarMeths

There is no market for these.

  • Console gamers are not going to bite on an $800 Linux box.
  • Casuals will also opt for the cheaper, easier consoles, if anything.
  • PC gamers will build their own machine for less money, and probably with a more useful Windows license.
  • People who buy pre-built PCs will continue not buying these, because that market is seriously shrinking.

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DefHalan

CaviarMeths wrote:

There is no market for these.

  • Console gamers are not going to bite on an $800 Linux box.
  • Casuals will also opt for the cheaper, easier consoles, if anything.
  • PC gamers will build their own machine for less money, and probably with a more useful Windows license.
  • People who buy pre-built PCs will continue not buying these, because that market is seriously shrinking.

I think the price is the biggest thing standing in the way of the Steam machines. Once they figure out pricing (and if they can still make profit) then we will see Steam Machines start making a move. The price (cheapest being around $480) will play the biggest role.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

luisesteban

CaviarMeths wrote:

Windows license.

Well, you can save a lot of money, skipping that buggy OS. And the performance, with Windows you can't ever dream about good performance.

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