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I agree WaveBoy. I didn't mind 2011's E3 conference, it was far more interesting, especially with the whole Zelda orchestra. However this year was all 3rd party... why? This is Nintendo's presentation, not Warner Bros., Ubisoft's etc.
You third parties, p*** off, if I want to see your games I'll see your presentation.
They showed us pikmin mario and even a "super smash" minigame collection.
And they seem to be expanding their audience from "just fans and casuals" to "everyone"... Which is good.
Anyone else hoping for a Zelda 3DS reveal tomorrow?
I'm pretty sure its happening...anxious to see what they're gonna do here.
I hope it's a new Zelda (but no touch screen movement please) but I'll take Majora's Mask if I have to. I dislike Zelda but there are a few gems in the series so I look forward to seeing if a new Zelda turns out to be a gem.
I'm not holding out for the 3DS press conference but we'll have to wait and see... maybe, just maybe, they'll show us something that will spring us out of our chairs, launch us into our screens and stare in amazement that Nintendo have made something truly wonderful.
But after Nintendo's fiasco yesterday, I highly doubt that...
I'm not deflated. E3 wasn't a disappointment. We learned that we can use two GamePads with the system, that Pikmin 3 is coming out, we've got a new Super Mario coming our way, incredible last-gen titles such as Mass Effect are making their way over to Nintendo, NintendoLand (a possible in-box title) is going to teach us how the GamePad can be used, Lego City Undercover is coming out (and it looks incredible), and Nintendo is still Nintendo.
Amongst all of the cheesy jokes and violent titles, Nintendo remains the company that tries to give everyone something they want. Some people just can't be pleased, I guess. I mean really. For the past 6 years, YOU ALL have been saying NIntendo should do EXACTLY what they did at E3. Now that they have actually done it, you would rather them have another "underpowered" system that has all of your favorite Nintendo titles and nothing from third-party developers that isn't shovelware? No, we haven't heard of a Metroid, StarFox, or Zelda yet. It isn't like the few games we've heard of are going to be the only games that come out for the Wii U! That's another area where you guys messed up. You whined and complained when 3DS didn't launch with a good Nintendo title. Well now we've got New Super Mario Bros. U and Pikmin 3. "OH, BUT THAT'S NOTHING UNLESS WE ALSO GET THAT METROID-STARFOX CROSSOVER THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T EXIST!!"
Not to mention, while all this was going on, you seem to have forgotten about the NIntendo DIrect. They talked about so much with that! Our new GamePad, Nintendo's next voyage into online, and even a more traditional controller!
I'm still pumped for the Wii U. I might even get it DAY 1. Who cares if launch titles are ports? That just opens them up to a wider audience. Who cares that we didn't see Metroid? It's coming later.
I own a PS1, GBA, GBA SP, Wii (GCN), 360, 3DS, PC (Laptop), Wii U, and PS4.
I used to own a GBC, PS2, and DS Lite
Nintendo had a lot of stuff to show, and they still do so I can see why they did how they did it. A lot of you complained earlier, not giving any specific names but were disappointed (from the previous E3) because they reveled a few first party titles that were not going to be coming out at launch or near it. I specifically herd someone say, "why reveal them now if there not going to give us a release date, or release it way later". Well all the games they showed were launch titles, or near launch. There's a right time to show a game.
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Before the show I was excited about the Wii U because we already knew about Pikmin 3 and New SMB and that they were probably going to be launch titles. Games like Rayman Legends, what is now ZombiU and Wii U versions of things like Arkham City and Assassin's Creed 3 are all things that I was interested in but I knew about them before the show also.
My complaint, and I'm sure it's everyone else's complaint who is complaining, is that there was nothing else. To quote myself from April in another thread:
The title of the thread is "perfect launch lineup?" not "what do you think the launch lineup will be?". Quite frankly your list is far from "perfect" and if it was just that I'd be struggling to find a reason to get it at launch. That makes it less than perfect given that... there have been launches where I HAVE wanted to get the console at launch. The Wii's launch lineup was more perfect than that because Wii Sports was interesting and Twilight Princess is Zelda.
If you want realistic then here goes:
Lego City Stories
New SMB Wii U
Pikmin 3
Bundled software including a couple of new ideas
Darksiders 2
Assassin's Creed 3
Arkham City
Metroid Prime 4
Battalion Wars 3 (done like a proper RTS)
A huge third party surprise... like GTAV or something
While I wouldn't call that perfect I think that's both realistic and enough to make me want to get a Wii U. If the best game is New SMB? It's going to have to be doing something pretty damn amazing to convince me.
and that is why I am disappoint
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"Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"
Even if right at the end they said "here's a trailer for insert bombshell and you can expect it some time next year" I would have been a lot happier...... but I think I've said enough on this. I just don't understand why people are trying to defend the absence of any real new announcements. :S
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"Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"
Even if right at the end they said "here's a trailer for insert bombshell and you can expect it some time next year" I would have been a lot happier...... but I think I've said enough on this. I just don't understand why people are trying to defend the absence of any real new announcements. :S
So what you are saying is if they would have said Metroid is coming Summer 2013, you would be alright with that? Isn't that what E3 2013 is supposed to do?
Even if right at the end they said "here's a trailer for insert bombshell and you can expect it some time next year" I would have been a lot happier...... but I think I've said enough on this. I just don't understand why people are trying to defend the absence of any real new announcements. :S
So what you are saying is if they would have said Metroid is coming Summer 2013, you would be alright with that? Isn't that what E3 2013 is supposed to do?
Yes. At Nintendo's 2006 E3 they told us about and demoed Twilight Princess and Wii Sports but then they had short trailers for Super Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3 even though we didn't see them 'till late 2007. For the 3DS in 2010 they mentioned OoT3D, Mario Kart, Paper Mario, Starfox 3D,Kid Icarus and... I think Luigi's Mansion? Yeah there was heaps and a lot of it we still haven't seen.
THAT was better than what we got at this pre-Wii U launch E3. We were told about two games neither of which were massive. That made it less exciting than what we've seen before. I want trailers screenies and info, is that too much to ask for?
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"Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"
You got trailers, screening and info and E3.Nintendo.com. They had a lot to talk about... a lot... they could not have possibly squeezed everything in. Even today we are going to see some 3DS games.
You got trailers, screening and info and E3.Nintendo.com. They had a lot to talk about... a lot... they could not have possibly squeezed everything in. Even today we are going to see some 3DS games.
This is true, but the problem is that what they CHOSE to talk about was, for the most part, boring. I was excited to see Pikmin 3 at the start, and thought there must be something great to come if they're leading in with P3! After that it was fairly average IMO, and I ended up skipping large parts of the recording.
The thing is, Nintendo should be in a position to blow everybody away. They're the ones showing off a brand new console, due to be released soon, and presumably with a strong launch line up of games. I don't think a casual observer would have gotten that impression at all. The audience was telling, too - they were silent for basically the whole thing. Not a good showing.
I was hoping Reggie would have a rapid-fire showing of a lot of great games, not necessarily ready for launch, but in development so as to get people hyped. You know, Reggie leads in with,
"And here's a quick taste of things to come on Wii U!" cheers from audience
cue rock music, and,
BAM ZombiU BAM F-Zero BAM Call of Duty BAM Max Payne 3 BAM Donkey Kong
etc. (I'm just trying to think of some popular games here)
IThey could have shown, say, 10-15 high-profile (and hopefully exclusive) games in the space of a couple of minutes (remember - people can check them out later on the show floor, so no need to go into heaps of detail) and gotten people really pumped. That would have given them a lot of momentum to build on for the remainder of the show.
Instead, what do we get? Slow, ponderous explanations about stuff that, admittedly, is important, but I think was a bad choice to focus on at this point, a bunch of terrible jokes that nobody was laughing at, and an overly drawn out demonstration of Nintendoland. If the thing that you want to sell the system requires that much explanation, well, then, I think you've got a problem.
I imagine Nintendo was suffering from the same thing that happens to a lot of people when working on creative projects. You invest a whole lot of time into something, you think it's the best thing since sliced bread, and think that EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD needs to know about it. However, to an outside observer, it's really not that exciting.
That was the impression I got from Katsuya Eguchi - Nintendoland is his little baby, and he thought it was far, far more exciting than everybody else did. I'm not saying it's a bad game - it could be great, in fact - but it didn't have the same attention-grabbing appeal that Wii Sports did back in the day.
I think Nintendo needs to sit down after E3, objectively have a look at the presentation and hopefully realise that they need games - lots of quality, in-demand games - for the Wii U to be a success. They keep saying that they realise this is the case, but it didn't really look that way at the conference.
My two cents, anyway.
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