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Topic: Famicom games in the NES Classic

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ibmp200

This post isn't about how to add games to the Nintendo, but just wondering if the NES Classic is already designed to play Famicom games (games either only released in Japan, or only playable on the Famicom console). Games such as Yume Koujou Doki Doki Panic, or Japan only release of Super Mario Bros. 2 (more difficult remake of Super Mario Bros.)?

I have seen some youtube videos of people that added games that were for the Famicom, and no mention of having to add extra things such as Retroarch for them to play properly. --Making it seem like a simple flash, with nothing extra added.

So, will popular Famicom games work normally in the Nintendo Classic with the basic flash, without adding Retroarch or something through Hakchi? I'm confused about it.

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Eel

Famicom games and NES games are the same thing.

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Joeynator3000

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Famicom games and NES games are the same thing.

Unless he's talking about that...disc system thing that functioned differently or something...

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ibmp200

So, does that mean that any Nintendo Entertainment System game made by Nintendo, either for use on the Famicom or the Nintendo, released in which ever country by possible limitation, will still play without special requirements in the Classic?

Just download the ROM, add it to Hakchi, flash memory and, ....done?? No extra stuff needed?

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ibmp200

well Joeynator3000, doki doki panic does have an in-game dialog for the disc to be turned over before the game can be played. will the classic do that automatically? i dont think the japan only version of super mario bros. 2 has a required flip.

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DarthNocturnal

ibmp200 wrote:

So, does that mean that any Nintendo Entertainment System game made by Nintendo, either for use on the Famicom or the Nintendo, released in which ever country by possible limitation, will still play without special requirements in the Classic?

Just download the ROM, add it to Hakchi, flash memory and, ....done?? No extra stuff needed?

Pretty much. FDS might be the sole exception. But as I recall, most/ all of the more popular FDS games got cartridge re-releases after the FDS support ended (carts are less failure prone then the floppy disc-esqe media used by the FDS). So FDS support is likely a non-issue.

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ibmp200

oh alright darthnocturnal. do you or anyone else here know how that famicom disk system thing worked out for doki doki panic? or, if anyone else has flashed their classic with that game and had it successfully 'load' without a disk 'delay' or error? ive added about 50 games to mine, and without having to use anything extra like retroarch. --i'd like to keep it that way if i can, in adding those two super mario games

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NintyPricer

@DarthNocturnal Except for the sweet higher quality chip tunes on a few games that took advantage of the FDS's superior sound processing capabilities. Zelda 2, for instance.

Didn't find that out until just a few months ago; was pretty fun re-experiencing old favorites in what was apparently their first (and slightly higher quality) rendition.

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I don't have an NES Classic to try (and I'll probably leave it “vanilla“ if/when I get one this summer), nor do I know how one might get FDS games running on the Classic. And Doki Doki Panic was reskined into a western version of Super Mario Bros. 2, (which is already on the Classic), so I doubt many would be in a hurry to get it running (or would bother with it even if it is easy to run).

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ibmp200

i understand, darthnocturnal. though it was remade for western use, doki doki panic has several definitive differences from the american 'remake'

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KingMike

DarthNocturnal wrote:

ibmp200 wrote:

So, does that mean that any Nintendo Entertainment System game made by Nintendo, either for use on the Famicom or the Nintendo, released in which ever country by possible limitation, will still play without special requirements in the Classic?

Just download the ROM, add it to Hakchi, flash memory and, ....done?? No extra stuff needed?

Pretty much. FDS might be the sole exception. But as I recall, most/ all of the more popular FDS games got cartridge re-releases after the FDS support ended (carts are less failure prone then the floppy disc-esqe media used by the FDS). So FDS support is likely a non-issue.

Super Mario Bros. 2 (Lost Levels) I think was one of the highest-selling FDS games and it never got an official cart version (though many bootleg ports). And I believe the Famicom Mini does include the FDS versions of Zelda 1 and 2. (which is worth noting since I think the Virtual Console releases of Zelda 1 in Japan had all used the late cart version)
However, SMB2 doesn't have disk-swapping since it is a 1-side game (about 64KB). But Nintendo's FDS emulation is smart enough to detect when a disk swap is needed and do it automatically (Bio Miracle Upa and Mystery of Murasame Castle are 2-sided games that have been released in the west on VC and I believe done auto swapping).
From what I've seen, Zelda 1 had to be modified to require a button press to start the game on the title screen. Normally it would loop the title and opening until the disk is switched over to start the game, but that's not something the game could detect automatically WHEN the user wanted to start the game.

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ibmp200

Okay, thank you KingMike. So, I guess all I can really do here, is change from my current version of 2.17c to the newest hakchi2 of 2.21f; add the two games and see if they play without a C error. I will not be adding Retroarch. If they don't work, then they don't work. Thank you for your input.

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GamingDude800

Can confirm that Famicom Disk System games will load and play on the NES Classic Edition as I personally have tried it on my NES Classic Edition at one point but you will have to experiment with Famicom Disk System game ROMs as there are ones that will work 100% with the NES Classic Edition, there are ones like the Famicom Disk System version of Zelda 2 that will play on the NES Classic Edition but crash pretty quickly, and there are ones that wont even load on the NES Classic Edition at all.

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ibmp200

well, i have since got the two family computer disk system games to work in the classic. i had to compromise by installing the retroarch module. the two games are dream factory heart pounding panic, and japan only release of super mario brothers 2. both games work fine.

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