@SCAR392 They haven't confirmed free games for the One last I checked. The PS plus library of game is much better and a better deal. All Goldmis giving is a few old games. Plus gives a lot more game that are actually recent. Gold doesn't give you much in the way of free games that is worth much.
That comes back to my opinion of PS game, I just don't like them as much. I'd rather have Fable for free than DriveClub, and I get to keep it.
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No reported outage
My phone and console had no problems connecting to Xbox LIVE at all yesterday
In fact, I was downloading stuff from Xbox LIVE all day yesterday, and there are no disconnection reports on my router either
Sounds like it was either isolated to your region / ISP, or your connection to the internet was acting up. Also, unless it was completely down for more than 24 hours, the original policy wouldn't have stopped your from playing at all.
Also, ignoring the Skype Remote Play I see?
PS: Sony's first party output outside of Naughty Dog and Insomniac is laughable at best. And Insomniac is now a third party developer. In fact, they are doing a new exclusive IP for Microsoft (published by Microsoft Studios) so there goes 1 of the only 2 reasons to get a PlayStation system. Their E3 booth was also by far the least impressive one. The fact that the machine I was playing on froze 4 times and had to be reset certainly didn't help.
Sucker Punch says otherwise for one other developer they has that's great. They've got more too. From what I've heard as read Insomniac wasn't one of the best Sony's had either.
Ignoring it? I've acknowledged that they've got it too. I don't see why to keep debating it. I simply missed the news. You've got delusional Sony hate that voids reason. You can't seem to accept that PS does have it's superioritys in some places like free game with PS Plus. Gold's free games can't hold a candle to PS Plus's, but you can't acknowledge that. The way you insulted Sony's first party was also laughable. This is getting tiring.
What free games? Oh! you mean the games they let you rent and get access to as long as you keep giving them money? That's completely different. Gold gives you free games, Plus gives you free rentals, completely different.
Sucker Punch? Now that is funny... their games so far have been OK at best.
Sucker Punch made Sly Cooper, therfore your opinion is completely invalid.
And yeah, they're free rentals. That's insane enough as is. Most games these days could easily be beaten in a week, completed in a month, and have zero reason to go back to them, so you'll be free to let them go while still keeping your trophies should you ever decide to stop your subscription.
Also, Xbox has had free games for years, it'snothing new. No one ever bothered to mention them before because none of them were show-stoppers, but they were all decent destractions. In fact, I'd go as far as to say Fable 3 is by far the worst game they've given away. Not to say it was terrible, but I'd honestly rather play Dorito's Crash Course or Aegis Wings over F3 any day. I can't imagine they'll be giving away too many really good games any time soon, but who knows.
I should also note that PSN has Free-to-Play games as well, and I think right now they'll limited to Plus Members. Those you get to keep after your subscription ends, though.
No reported outage
My phone and console had no problems connecting to Xbox LIVE at all yesterday
In fact, I was downloading stuff from Xbox LIVE all day yesterday, and there are no disconnection reports on my router either
Sounds like it was either isolated to your region / ISP, or your connection to the internet was acting up. Also, unless it was completely down for more than 24 hours, the original policy wouldn't have stopped your from playing at all.
Also, ignoring the Skype Remote Play I see?
PS: Sony's first party output outside of Naughty Dog and Insomniac is laughable at best. And Insomniac is now a third party developer. In fact, they are doing a new exclusive IP for Microsoft (published by Microsoft Studios) so there goes 1 of the only 2 reasons to get a PlayStation system. Their E3 booth was also by far the least impressive one. The fact that the machine I was playing on froze 4 times and had to be reset certainly didn't help.
Sucker Punch says otherwise for one other developer they has that's great. They've got more too. From what I've heard as read Insomniac wasn't one of the best Sony's had either.
Ignoring it? I've acknowledged that they've got it too. I don't see why to keep debating it. I simply missed the news. You've got delusional Sony hate that voids reason. You can't seem to accept that PS does have it's superioritys in some places like free game with PS Plus. Gold's free games can't hold a candle to PS Plus's, but you can't acknowledge that. The way you insulted Sony's first party was also laughable. This is getting tiring.
What free games? Oh! you mean the games they let you rent and get access to as long as you keep giving them money? That's completely different. Gold gives you free games, Plus gives you free rentals, completely different.
Sucker Punch? Now that is funny... their games so far have been OK at best.
Sucker Punch made Sly Cooper, therfore your opinion is completely invalid.
And yeah, they're free rentals. That's insane enough as is. Most games these days could easily be beaten in a week, completed in a month, and have zero reason to go back to them, so you'll be free to let them go while still keeping your trophies should you ever decide to stop your subscription.
Also, Xbox has had free games for years, it'snothing new. No one ever bothered to mention them before because none of them were show-stoppers, but they were all decent destractions. In fact, I'd go as far as to say Fable 3 is by far the worst game they've given away. Not to say it was terrible, but I'd honestly rather play Dorito's Crash Course or Aegis Wings over F3 any day. I can't imagine they'll be giving away too many really good games any time soon, but who knows.
I should also note that PSN has Free-to-Play games as well, and I think right now they'll limited to Plus Members. Those you get to keep after your subscription ends, though.
It's been confirmed that free-to-play games won't require Plus.
PRICE: $400 better than $500. Point Sony.
EXCLUSIVES: Microsoft has more, but either way it's objective.
BUNDLE: Microsoft bundles a necessary Kinect. That's impossible for that to be any more positive than neutral.
SUBSCRIPTIONS: PSPlus seems to work really well. Despite the free games being "rentals", you get a sizable amount, and PSPlus is cheaper. Microsoft... well, you can keep those games everyone already owns...
POWER: lol who cares. Point Not Wii U.
So as you can see, most of you are all being silly. Buy the system you want for its positives, don't try and shove its negatives down others throats as positives.
Now play nice.
PRICE: $400 better than $500. Point Sony.
EXCLUSIVES: Microsoft has more, but either way it's objective.
Don't forget Gamescom where Sony is to announce more PS4 game's.
“30 new PS4 first-party games are in development and 12 of them are new IP’s,” he said. “There’s a lot going on, we need to keep stuff back. There’s Gamescom and we need to have something to show at Gamescom, don’t we?”
Between the two, just choose the console you think will end up having more of the exclusives that you'll want. Other than that, they're pretty similar in structure and such, and the vast majority of next gen games will be multiplatform (and PC). I do think Microsoft might have an ace up its sleeve with the Kinect, though. If they can figure out a way to make that puppy do some cool stuff with games without taking away from classic controller setups, it would definitely be something the PS4 won't have.
I'm torn, because I definitely like the Sony exclusives more, but most of my friends are sticking with the Xbox and, you have to admit, it's so much more fun to play games online with your friends than with complete strangers or even by yourself.
PRICE: $400 better than $500. Point Sony.
EXCLUSIVES: Microsoft has more, but either way it's objective.
Don't forget Gamescom where Sony is to announce more PS4 game's.
“30 new PS4 first-party games are in development and 12 of them are new IP’s,” he said. “There’s a lot going on, we need to keep stuff back. There’s Gamescom and we need to have something to show at Gamescom, don’t we?”
That's assuming Microsoft has nothing else to announce either. I'd say to wait till TGS to make your final decision.
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you have to admit, it's so much more fun to play games online with your friends than with complete strangers or even by yourself.
Speak for yourself, I hate playing games with friends. At least when a total stranger stars being a jerk to me, I can stop playing with him without repurcussions, and at least when I play by myself, I can do what I want without worrying about others.
PS4 gets the point here. It's definitely more powerful, and while third-party may not use. I but later down the road Sony's first party's may very well show the edge that PS4 has.
The PS4 is not definitely more powerful than the Xbox One. We don't yet have really detailed specs and the common assumption that GDDR5 is just better than DDR3 is ridiculous. GDDR5 has its issues, which is why it's not mainstream yet except in graphics cards.
You should also note that Kinect has its uses, though admittedly, it hasn't been used well for gaming purposes as of yet.
Frankly, the only advantage the PS4 seems to have over the Xbox One, excluding exclusives as whether they are an advantage is subject to opinion, is price.
They're both great consoles but I personally think that the Xbox One is winning out so far.
You should also note that while the PS4 controller has a touchscreen, the Xbox One supports smartglass, which allows for bigger touchscreens. So even there, the Xbox has the advantage, though of course it is subjective to whether or not you actually already have a tablet.
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The PS4 is not definitely more powerful than the Xbox One. We don't yet have really detailed specs and the common assumption that GDDR5 is just better than DDR3 is ridiculous. GDDR5 has its issues, which is why it's not mainstream yet except in graphics cards.
You should also note that Kinect has its uses, though admittedly, it hasn't been used well for gaming purposes as of yet.
Frankly, the only advantage the PS4 seems to have over the Xbox One, excluding exclusives as whether they are an advantage is subject to opinion, is price.
They're both great consoles but I personally think that the Xbox One is winning out so far.
You should also note that while the PS4 controller has a touchscreen, the Xbox One supports smartglass, which allows for bigger touchscreens. So even there, the Xbox has the advantage, though of course it is subjective to whether or not you actually already have a tablet.
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PS4 gets the point here. It's definitely more powerful, and while third-party may not use. I but later down the road Sony's first party's may very well show the edge that PS4 has.
You always forget to mention that whever someone compares specs, they ALWAYS forget to look at every component. They say, "Oh, the GPU and RAM is better".
Contrary to what Sony says, GDDR5 RAM is not the only RAM in there, and nor does it always matter. Also the GPU could be stronger to pick up slack somewhere else to equal the performance of the same area in another machine.
You always look at the number and think the bigger number is better. That is not always the case when those bigger numbers start communicating with smaller numbers.
Let's just say, that the Xbox One has a faster CPU, and a better OS than the PS4(Which it does. Sorry deal with it), but te PS4 has a better GPU, and a little ammount of better RAM. That better GPU and better RAM could be making up for short coming in another part of the console.
In otherwords, the better GPU and little ammount of RAM will be picking up slack. If the PS4 was truly any better than Xbox One, we would have already seen the difference in the games, OS, and features. The fact is, is that Xbox One games seem to already be more complicated(running technically demanding PC games), the OS is OBVIOUSLY better(that's not necessarily a technical limitation, but Sony doesn't know s*** about building their own OS, apparently), and the camera will be sold in vein.
Seriously, you have to understand what these numbers mean in relation to each other. A 50% stronger GPU does not equal "moar pow air" in comparison to another machine that has a better CPU, or more unified components as a whole.
PS4 gets the point here. It's definitely more powerful, and while third-party may not use. I but later down the road Sony's first party's may very well show the edge that PS4 has.
You always forget to mention that whever someone compares specs, they ALWAYS forget to look at every component. They say, "Oh, the GPU and RAM is better".
Contrary to what Sony says, GDDR5 RAM is not the only RAM in there, and nor does it always matter. Also the GPU could be stronger to pick up slack somewhere else to equal the performance of the same area in another machine.
You always look at the number and think the bigger number is better. That is not always the case when those bigger numbers start communicating with smaller numbers.
Let's just say, that the Xbox One has a faster CPU, and a better OS than the PS4(Which it does. Sorry deal with it), but te PS4 has a better GPU, and a little ammount of better RAM. That better GPU and better RAM could be making up for short coming in another part of the console.
In otherwords, the better GPU and little ammount of RAM will be picking up slack. If the PS4 was truly any better than Xbox One, we would have already seen the difference in the games, OS, and features. The fact is, is that Xbox One games seem to already be more complicated(running technically demanding PC games), the OS is OBVIOUSLY better(that's not necessarily a technical limitation, but Sony doesn't know s*** about building their own OS, apparently), and the camera will be sold in vein.
Seriously, you have to understand what these numbers mean in relation to each other. A 50% stronger GPU does not equal "moar pow air" in comparison to another machine that has a better CPU, or more unified components as a whole.
I'm not sure if he can, given all he's saying is that there is a possibility of that being true, and then goes on to argue your points based on what is "possible".
I've been reading the digital foundry article jaz gave, and it doesn't sound like the One has a faster processor, plus it'll have a lot of challenges with its use as a tv box even.
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