Topic: The everything Xbox thread

@ThanosReXXX Yes, I have a lot of X-enhanced games, but even not enhanced 360 and Xbox One games perform much better and original Xbox games render at 4K! That's definitely more than simple backwards compatibility at no extra cost.

@ThanosReXXX all good man I understand. Gow 2018 was one of the few games where after beating it I just sat there for about 20 minutes in silence and just reflected on the whole thing. Really a great experience so I hope you can play it one day!

Given the timing of Games With Gold's launch, it almost seemed like an apology to Xbox fans for how much Don Mattrick messed up the XB1 reveal and E3. Meanwhile PS+ started as a games subscription and later included paid online (which people ate up because of how much Microsoft messed up).

With Nintendo Switch Online, the timing and promotion seems all wrong. This is why I don't think it's going to work well, tomorrow is September and Nintendo's still very quiet.

@Grumblevolcano Interesting idea. You might even be on to something there. Mattrick sure was a jerk, so I was very glad to see him go, and they might very well have felt that they needed to do something positive to get audiences back, or at least make them sit up and take notice.

I'm also quite apprehensive about what Nintendo's going to do. Normally, I'd be inclined to stay cautiously optimistic, but so far, they have given me little reason to do so, unfortunately...

My One is pretty much finished, but the One X with both Horizon 4 and Motorsport 7 for the same price as the One X alone is a good enough deal for me. I might be skipping out on the early access through the Ultimate edition, but that doesn't matter much when I get an extra game thrown in with both coming at no extra cost.

@DarkRula Ah, man. That's a real downer. Did you ever find out what exactly was wrong with it? I've never experienced any overheating so far, nor have I heard about that from friends who own an Xbox One, so I was wondering what it could have been ever since you mentioned it.

@ThanosReXXX I gave it a good clean, and the problem still persisted. I have no idea what condition the insides are like as I didn't want to take it apart. Technology can be damaged under extreme heat, and as I've always been saying - five hour sessions or more nearly every day of the week during temperatures above thirty celcius probably wasn't the best idea.
Once the X is here and set-up, I'll probably take a look inside. It could be possible that there's damage to the fans.

@DarkRula At least it was a XB1 that broke and not something like Switch. All your save data and game purchases will be intact when you setup your XB1X.

@Grumblevolcano I'm thankful that is the case. Cloud saves and a true account system are necessary in this day and age. I'm just dreading the amount of time I'll be waiting for downloads.

@DarkRula Well, there must be something wrong. When I first had my Xbox One (S model, by the way), I've played on it for well over six hours a day, and it never got hotter than it should, and I never experienced any problems, or at least nothing noticeable.

So, that would ultimately lead me to the conclusion, that something out of the ordinary happened to your Xbox. And outside temperatures also shouldn't have any significant effect on a console in perfect working order: it would normally just mean that the fans would spin a bit faster to compensate for it, but other than that, I've never heard of a console overheating due to excessive temperatures outside of it's own casing. And 30+ degrees is reasonably hot, but in the end, it's not too excessive.

If it really would be, then your PC, TV and any other heat generating appliance would also burn out under those same conditions...

LOL so all those rumors of prototype Elite 2.0.....and they announced a new Elite.....the old one...in white.... Glad I got mine when I got it rather than waiting for the supposed replacements that will never come!

@Grumblevolcano That's a pretty fair timeline. It also explains why PS+ is often better than GwG...it was designed from the start to be for the games. Switch Online....defenders say that they've been saying it since day one and games and hardware say "may require additional fee" but I still say that after 1.5 years of it being free, just suddenly dropping a fee to keep doing what you were already doing is not good. If it only applied to new games after Smash or something, maybe....but....not games people already play daily for free. Imagine if Fortnite just suddenly locked out accounts and said "oh, yeah, $1.60/mo please, Visa, Mastercard, or Paypal [here]!" It's not much money, it's not consequential, but the backlash of the sudden introduction would make it seem far worse than it is.

The fact that 3 weeks out they still "will provide details later"....I can't imagine what details there are to tell, let alone why they feel the need to wait until release day to tell people how a subscription they've been telling them about for a year and a half to give the details. For a product some people have already paid for via retail purchases.

@DarkRula Any reason to believe it's not just a hard drive, and it's really a full failure?

@ThanosReXXX Oh, running hardware in hot environments certainly makes a difference. I've fried plenty of (PC) hardware that way, I'm sure 86F is plenty hot to put some extra strain on hardware, especially GPUs and HDDs. It may not cause sudden death but it shears life off the components pretty well. Granted i've been using mine but usually 1-2 hours, and I watch the tmps on the external HDDs.)

@NEStalgia Well, I didn't exactly say that it won't have ANY effect, I just said that I can't believe that it was the reason behind the early demise of his Xbox One. And as for my PC: that's running 24-7 all year round, with two internal hard drives, three external, and during two consecutive heat waves these past two months, so there goes that theory...

@ThanosReXXX You'll have to ask Plywood and Ryu about my endless PC hardware nightmares that brought me to the XBox to begin with I do suspect heat played a major role over time....I mean I've burned THOUSANDS of dollars of hardware over the decades. Hard drives, motherboards, GPU (after GPU (after GPU)), power supplies, you name it! I've started buying all laptops

For HDDs there are a few studies showing the effects of temperatures either too hot or too cool (which shocked me!) on either side of 102F or so (internal temp, not air temp) and the average life span started dropping slightly within 8 or so degrees of that, and sharply after 10 or so degrees (as a function of operating hours.) I think WD did the one study.

@NEStalgia Boy, you must be starting to deteriorate. How can you forget that I was one of the people that kept hammering the advantages of the Xbox One X over PC into your brain?
And I was obviously motivated to do that, by you continuously mentioning your PC problems.

Studies are fine, but they're not always applicable. How else would you explain me never switching off my PC, and not a single disc being faulty? And I've done this for many years in a row. Ever since I started to download and upload stuff.

I absolutely believe temperature has some effect, so that's not the issue, but I don't believe it can cause such a relatively short term effect that a console is destroyed in next to no time flat, without there being any other causes, which is also what I mentioned to him. This was not a normal occurrence, regardless of any temperature. Something was wrong with the console, for it to fail so rather abruptly.

Or maybe, juuuussstt maybe, we simply have to conclude that I am a far better PC builder than the average Joe, and you...

Oh, and all of my discs actually ARE Western Digital. Western Digital Blue, to be exact, and one of my external drives is one of these small Western Digital Elements portable USB3.0 drives. I don't have a single issue with any of them.

@ThanosReXXX LOL yep, takes talent to build them thar pee sees.

I've lost Seagates and DeathStars, Maxtors (remember them?), WD Blacks, WD Raptors......you name it I've failed them out! But HDDs I expect it. What really got me was the 4-5 GPUS that failed, 1-2 mobos, 2 PSUs and a stick of ram.

@NEStalgia Yeah, I remember Maxtors. Had a couple of those in my first PC, Windows 98. Didn't last all that long, especially considering as that was before I had any decent internet to speak off, so I didn't have my PC switched on at all times, so my current discs last me a lot longer, not just relatively, but also factually, if you account for that difference in operational hours.

Throughout my whole PC journey, I only ever lost one gfx card, 1 PSU, and one processor. And one failed hard drive. The others I exchanged before they gave up themselves. I just monitor performance nowadays, and once that starts to drastically go down, I simply buy new ones and swap them out.

The only discs I can test with are DVDs, since I've got no physical games. It could be HDD failure, but until I can play some films on it I won't really know. I'd still rather go for a replacement One rather than just the part just so it saves that little extra bit of space.

@DarkRula I am addicted to Fortnite (X-enhanced) on Xbox One X and mine never gets hot, although I can hear a very low fan noise like a little breeze far away. Your X is/was faulty, definitely. My friends don't have any problems with their Xbox One X consoles either. Check if the guarantee covers whatever happened.

Yup. One X to replace the OG One. Two and a half years it served me well.
And I hope the One X lasts at least the same amount of time.

@DarthNocturnal Oh I didn't read all the posts. Now he is upgrading to the beast.