Topic: The everything Xbox thread

@NEStalgia A colleague of mine told me that he would try it when he can with Batman Return to Arkham for the One X. So I will post an update here.

@NEStalgia Well, upon installing them, none of my games have had any pop-up notification that an update was also required, so I'd imagine they'd be perfectly playable, and that is also exactly what it says on Microsoft's official page, so I'd sooner trust the official word, than some anonymous user on an Xbox forum...

As for that firmware update: I already have it installed, so there's really no need for me to keep a copy on a stick.

And I've NEVER downloaded console-related stuff anywhere else than in my own home. My internet is all but flawless. I did have some router issues over the years, but all minor issues, and in the end, I've always been quite happy with what I've got.

Download speeds for me range from 3MB/s in the lows, to 8MB/s in the highs, so downloading a small patch for a console OS is almost like burping for my internet connection...

@ThanosReXXX Well that was my point the official X1X FAQ said it would not run. That's why I was cautioning Zul to start with.

Sure there's reason to keep firmware on a stick if, like you've said in the past, you're into retro consoles and keeping your older games and such. Eventually X1 won't have patches available online. If your X1 breaks and you replace it with another X1 from a retro store etc in the future you may need the patch. Between backing up the OS patch and being able to back up all your downloaded game content (digital, DLC, patches) the X1 is in fact the only modern console you can preserve it's content in backups and still play on any used X1 20 years from now! Kind of a cool feature.

You maybe never needed to, but for years I had to update my PS3 & 4 with downloads from elsewhere. I was furious that option was never available on WiiU. I had to tote it around like a Switch to patch it initially

3-8MB/s or Mb/s? If MB that's utterly amazing! If Mb...that's....actually not all that great.....ouch....and you're encouraging X1X patches? Even my cellular internet was triple that speed.....I was just capped so low I couldn't use it

Edit: I did my maths wrong.....it's probably 3-8MB/s (I hope) meaning ~50Mb/s....which is decent.

@NEStalgia I don't think MCC would've happened if backwards compatibility was planned from the start of the XB1's lifespan. Instead I think Microsoft would've just released Halo 2 Anniversary as a standalone game.

Last gen ports/remasters are most common when there's no backwards compatibility for last gen on current gen consoles.

@NEStalgia Yes, that's download speeds in megabytes, as in: downloading a DVD's worth of content on a BitTorrent client in less than 5 minutes, or 8 on a bad day...

I do have to add something to my previous content, though: probably like you have also experienced, I have by now had copious amounts of additional downloads/patches being executed on the around 76 games that I have now installed on the Xbox One's internal HDD, so I've had to do some swapping out/deleting of downloaded games that I'm never going to play anyway, to accommodate for that.

And I'm not so much encouraging X1X patches, I was just trying to remove the fog of miscommunication by explaining what's actually what, as in mandatory vs non-mandatory on the various models Xbox One.

P.S.

I'll never get a second-hand Xbox. The only console I've ever bought used, although professionally refurbished, was my Dreamcast, simply because I was too late in really appreciating that console, so by the time I truly wanted to own one, I could only get a refurbished one.

As for that no more available patch/download for the Xbox One: you and I both know how that's going to turn out in real life: there will always be some kind of image/copy of that online somewhere, much like how we can now download ROMs and even patches of previous consoles, so I'm not even gonna lose a second of sleep over that infinitesimally small possibility of that ever happening to my Xbox One.

Where it concerns games, is another matter entirely, but right now, I just don't have the extra cash to buy me a decent enough size external hard drive, which for the Xbox One should at least be 3TB by now, and I still have to get an external one to be able to re-download all the games that I've already removed, to make place for patches and other games, so I'll probably be needing two of those, which will set me back at least €200, so that's just not in the cards right now.

@Grumblevolcano Well, MCC would have still needed a remaster treatment one way or another....those games didn't age well. Could they have sold each Halo individually? I wonder.

@Thanosrexxx Ok, yeah ~50Mbs is respectable....unlike the DSL speed I originally read it to be Yeah I ended up with the 2TB + 6TB......I haven't filled it all yet, but I'll probably use my spare 4TB (laptop size) one to back up a chunk of the 6TB....that's a lot of re-downloading should it fail

@NEStalgia Respectable? It's lighting fast, especially considering it isn't even glass fiber...

@NEStalgia The 360 games are fine on XB1 backwards compatibility except Reach so a Gears situation with Halo 2 being the remaster would've been perfectly fine. What we got was partially better (everything in one place) and partially worse (MCC not working brilliantly for 4 years).

@ThanosReXXX True. Around here Comcast has rolled out MOCA 2 pushing gigabit over coax cable.....trouble is they cap you at 1TB/mo, and that's only download. Upload is a paltry 10Mb/s or so!

@grumblevolcano True. I'm still waiting for that X1X update before diving in again!

@NEStalgia Yeah... I've had some of these issues over my old connection, almost a decade ago now.
As for my current one: the weird thing is that although I can download any kind of media at the speeds previously mentioned, I shouldn't be able to, according to various of these online speed tests.

And none of their results match up either, if you compare a couple of different ones, so what my ACTUAL speed is, is anyone's guess. In any case, it's enough to download at the speeds that I do, and to watch Full HD videos online, so in the end, I actually couldn't care less about the specific numbers...

Looks like several of the Arcade Archive NEO GEO titles will be discounts for Deals with Gold for the first time, the likes of Metal Slug 1, KOF 94, Samurai Shodown and more for around $4 each.

Oh, and Battlefront II finally hits the $9 mark if thats your thing at your desired price...

@DarthNocturnal Yeah, they rarely seem to put OG Xbox games in sales, though funny enough Neowave Kind of Fighters is also on offer at $3-ish.

@DarthNocturnal Gamescom is next week.

On another note, Tomb Raider Legend and Anniversary is now on backwards compatibility so you can now enjoy both trilogies on XB1 (Legend, Anniversary, Underworld; Tomb Raider 2013, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Shadow of the Tomb Raider). Of course the original batch of games (Tomb Raider 1996, 2, 3, The Last Revelation, Chronicles, Angel of Darkness) have never appeared on Xbox.

I'm having to hold off from my usual way of playing as my One is turning into a barbeque. I was only on Horizon 3 for an hour yesterday, and it still managed to hit a ridiculous temperature. I didn't even need to touch the top of it to feel the heat from it once I'd turned it off. Even the Switch is the same, and my phone whenever I do something more demanding than just looking at the home screen.
I'm curious about what surprises come out of Gamescom, and I'll definitely try to tune into Inside Xbox next week.

I've 100%ed Horizon 3!
Except I haven't, because for whatever reason it's stuck at 99.9% and I have no idea where that last .1% is meant to come from. Unless it's the Forzathon Barn Finds, but that's just silly to have a limited event be tied to overall completion.

@DarkRula 100%ed???
Well, color me seriously impressed. I'll probably never 100% it, because I simply don't have the time anymore.
And now that I have unlocked both DLC expansions, I'm playing it even less than before. I've never been a 100% guy, so if you go through my by now pretty considerable games collection, there's probably only a handful of games that I ever truly finished.

Most of the time, my interest stops when I've finished a main story line, or the single player campaign, so no multiplayer awards for me, no 100 stars or 1000 coins for me, and so on and so on.

As for what the completion list consists of: you should be able to find an overview somewhere in the game, that tells you about your progress and what's still left for you to do, so maybe you should check that out.
No idea where it is hidden, though, since I obviously never used it...

@ThanosReXXX I only go for 100% with those I find fun.
And as for that 0.01% remaining, it is related to the Forzathon Barn Finds. Fortunately, there's another opportunity to get them end of October, so I'll have to remember to tear myself away from Horizon 4 to go for them.
Onto trying for that 100% of Horizon 2.

@DarkRula Haha, still impressive. Even fun can't motivate me for long, once I've gone through a campaign or main story line. One example: on the Xbox 360, I really LOVED playing Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway, and I even played through it several times. But there were several completely ridiculous achievements, which I simply didn't want to or lost the will to complete.

One that really stood out, was an achievement that you could get, for logging into the game for 100 consecutive days. Not even playing it, just starting it up and then quitting again. I kept that up for I think a little over a month, but then I thought: "what the hell am I doing? Screw this crap, it's all nonsense anyway", and so I stopped. Some arbitrary extra points on my gamertag has never bothered me that much either.

But still, respect to those that do the 100% thing, it's just not for me.

Good luck with Forza Horizon 2. It's a great game, but personally, I found it to be a bit harder than the next game. That is not all that strange, seeing as they have really gone to town tweaking the game with every new installment, so playing them in reverse order will probably make you notice that difference a little more. But it's still a great game regardless, and it has some of it's own crazy challenge races, none of which I will spoil for you here...

@ThanosReXXX Ah. I'm no achievement hunter. Not much interested in getting all the achievements of Horizon. Only games I've done that with are Sonic Generations owing to how easy it is, and LEGO games 'cus why not? Game completion with Horizon is pretty simple so long as you don't mind racing a lot.
And yes, Horizon 2 to 100% is definitely a chore and one I'd already been doing before I'd got the DLC of 3 and decided to 100% that one. I think there's about thirty hours left for FH2, and most of that is the remaining road trips.