As for Destroy All Humans: not my cup of tea. I tried out the reboot/remaster on the Wii a couple of years back, and although mildly entertaining, I found most of it a bit too... well, juvenile for my taste. Maybe it's my age, seeing as I'm soon to be 48, or maybe it's simply not my kind of game. And that is also why I haven't mentioned it in my list of recommendations.
Concerning the digitally bought and possibly re-downloadable games: that could come, but so far, all I've personally seen available for download on my own Xbox One S is the Games with Gold titles, and those are only Xbox 360 titles, so I'm not holding out for digitally purchased OG Xbox titles to become available for free download or even for a discount. But if it does happen, then I would personally like to request Stubbs the Zombie. That's the only OG Xbox game I ever purchased digitally on my Xbox 360...
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@DarthNocturnal Ah, okay. I thought it was simply a port of the Xbox original with some minor graphical polish. And I did recognize the satire in the Wii game as well, which is why I said I found it mildly entertaining in some part. The voice acting was also good, but the whole fart jokes/fart gun and belching got real boring real fast at a certain point.
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@ThanosReXXX Nah, the "cheap one" is the S. Not sure what pricing is like now, but back when we were first talking, S was actually cheaper than OG units floating around.
Yeah, I agree with the glaring omission of the disc drive and now the roles should have been reversed. I can't explain that one, at all! Though Sony got lucky because at least here people almost see discs as quaint and retro and everything is streaming streaming streaming......and maybe that was Sony's point, to force people onto their digital media platforms? That's all I've got....
Yeah, Pro is cheaper because it's less powerful, as well as because it's older. But that price difference still speaks to a lot of people. More games available, lower price, versus less games available, better visuals, more money....... X1X absolutely is more niche for the crowd that really wants a gaming PC without bothering with a gaming PC, but equally willing to give up the typical perks of console (first and second party games.) Making that the pricier option isn't doing it any favors. The S is in fact the better budget console though (worse performance than base PS4, but also cheaper.....) So Sony keeps the middle while MS chips at the high end and low ends. For now, middle seems to be the big money though.
As for Sea of Thieves, even if it's not all that great, it's still the first significant exclusive in a long time, and definitely raised awareness or attention on the X1. Something that doesn't happen often.
The PS4's GPU is slightly stronger (0.3 Tflops to be exact), but that is negligible in the larger picture, because the Xbox One has faster and more RAM.
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@DarthNocturnal Well, congrats, then. This actually got me hoping (probably against all hope considering it's popularity/rarity) that they actually will put Stubbs the Zombie in any of the upcoming waves. Would be nice...
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
So how exactly is MGS Peace Walker backwards compatible. It says it is on the main site but I thought the only version that was available in the west was part of the MGS collection. Which the backwards compatability list doesn't actually mention. I'm confused.
@Dezzy The MGS Collection for xbox 360 had 2 Disc first disc had MGS 2 and MGS 3, and the Second Disc had only MGS Peace Walker on it, plus they sold it separately on the Xbox Live Store. That is why only MGS Peace Walker is backwards compatible. Hopefully they will soon release the MGS 2 and MGS 3 as backwards compatible that would be great.
@Dezzy Interesting lineup, if he's guessed it all correctly. Some of these games are obviously already expected, so I think it's safe to say that he's at least partially right.
@NEStalgia Check out that video above here and listen very carefully to everything being said starting from 8m55s...
'The console wars are like boobs: Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'
@Dezzy that would be a dumb move imo. Sure it would move some xboxes but they would lose out on literally of millions of sales also. I mean I've bought Minecraft 3 times already, not once on a Microsoft system. If they did release an Xbox exclusive Minecraft 2 it wouldn't motivate me to get an Xbox, I would just have my kids play something else lol. I highly doubt that would move enough to justify the lost sales from PC, ps4, Switch, mobile etc.
Depends how much profit they make on consoles compared to software really I guess.
You could say something similar about Mario Kart. That would sell tens of millions if it was on every platform.
@Dezzy yeah of course you could say the same thing about Mario Kart, God of War, halo that's not the point. The fact of the matter is one of the main reasons Minecraft is the 2nd best selling game in history is because it's literally on everything. The precedent is already there vs something like MK and they would be losing out on millions of dollars that I highly doubt the would recoup on hardware sales. I mean just from me from buying it multiple times plus expansions, skin packs, buying story mode they've gotten well over $150. Had it been exclusive they would have not gotten that from me. I know I'm just one guy and not that important but in the grand scheme I think there are many like that.
Ah well, we will never know but I just think it would be unwise.
@DarthNocturnal I remember people at Mojang saying something similar when MS bought them. When asked about a Minecraft 2 they said it made more sense just to update and iterate on what they had vs just making a sequel.
Isn't the Better Together update with the graphics bump basically Minecraft "Season 2"?
OTOH, You always need to focus on bringing the most advanced graphics to games these days through sequels. Minecraft II will feature graphics almost on par with SNES Mode 7!
@DarthNocturnal I remember people at Mojang saying something similar when MS bought them. When asked about a Minecraft 2 they said it made more sense just to update and iterate on what they had vs just making a sequel.
They didn't own a console and digital PC marketplace though. Microsoft will definitely be considering using it to benefit their platforms.
@ThanosReXXX So....uhmm....
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IfoundareallygoodpriceonarefurbishedX1XProjectScorpioeditionandboughtit.........
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So there you go....now I'm a member of your little club And now I bought all 5 8th gen consoles (PS4/X1/WiiU/Switch/3DS.) After I swore there was zero reason to own an XBox...... But you know I've had my eye on it for some time (or the PC....at this price I'd barely buy a video card), and I've been loving PSN+ freebies so adding X1 freebies (though I haven't been thrilled with their offerings of late) seemed fair. And also while I'm not subscribing now, Game Pass intrigued me. I'd only need it 8 months or so of the year, so for the price of 1.5 games I can play all their exclusives per year....not so bad. (Now that I have real internet which is what got me interested in X1X at all after the cord cutting experiment had to end for business reasons.) GP has to get much better on the 3rd party front, but it's still intriguing for a month here and there. It didn't hurt that the freebie I missed from PS, MGS5 is coming up for XB.
So now I have this crisis that several games I bought on PSN sales over the last few months I'd rather play on X1X. And now I'll have a split digital library for next gen....locking me into three platforms again. Ugh. This was my gen to escape the cycle. And you sold me on it. You monster.
Anyway: First impressions on the hardware. Very nice, very dense...runs fairly hot but not surprising. Project Scorpio Edition skin is very subtle, I like it. No user replaceable hard drive. Sony wins that one by a mile - this becomes a brick when the HD inevitably dies....PS4 you just pop it out. GJ MS! (Yeah I know you can replace it if you remove the security torx, pry the panels off with a spudger, carefully disconnect the NIC, remove the heat shield, etc. etc. etc. That's not going to do if you don't have an electronics workbench. Disastrous miss.
User interface. You know everyone rails against it. I think it's a coin flip who is worse on UI between Sony and MS. Sony's desktop is a big bloated mess of indecipherable panels that all blend together, but half the stuff you want is on the second column. X1 desktop...everyone complains about it but I now realize the point is, you're never actually supposed to SEE the desktop. Everything is done on the guide mini menu, and nobody actually exits to desktop. On the other hand that means the whole thing is basically the Windows 8 Start menu. So it's unimaginably bad. It's all based on search. On a console. Remind me next time I play Halo to send a few extra rounds through Cortana's projected head. She ruined Windows. And now gaming. I'll make her pay.
Multitasking works amazingly well though. But I don't like how even the settings is an "App." Again, more Win10 metro junk.
Gaming. Ok, so I tried For Honor (wanted it on X1X for coop campaign after trying it on PS4 free play weekend.) Ubi requires a login. On PS, no big deal, it's built into the game screen, and you can create an account using your PSN credentials if you don't already have one ( I do have one, but it makes it easy.) On XBox? It redirects you to install the UbiClub app. It makes it look optional, but it's not, you just keep cycling to the main menu if you don't do it. So you install the app, log in, then have to switch back to the game. Running the game launches the app. It's literally the PC solution of running two applications separately and task switching between them. On a console. Eww, eww, eww, eww, make it stop!
Yeah, that's Ubi, but MS allowed them to do that while Sony did not. Still, game plays well.
Ok, buttons. "Press A". You know, I haven't touched my X360 in years. I've played 3DS, WiiU, and Switch extensively. "A" is in the wrong place, and I instinctively reach for A in the right place. At least X,O I can train my mind as different when I see it. A,B, muscle reflex knows where they are. This is ugly. I can remap the buttons, but then when I DON'T see it on screen I go for the wrong place. This will drive me nuts.
Are these the highest quality pixels I've ever seen? TBD.
Controllers: Ok, so I found a great price on a used Elite, and I've longed for that elite. I love the controller....but....this one has that drift problem on the right stick. I know it well. 4 X360 controllers did that to me. My first WiiU gamepad did it (but only after extensive Bayonetta/Splatoon abuse), and no PS4 controller has ever done it to me (probably because their deadzones are just flat broken by design.) So it will be going back. I'm debating whether or not to buy a new one at the 2 stores that actually have them, or to wait and see if the rumors of a 2.0 are true (time to check the E3 thread.) Only 4 weeks to wait to find out I guess? Hope I don't miss out entirely. It's hard to use even the excellent regular controller after the beauty of good controllers. For now I might get a Razer Wolverine Ultimate....it's wired only which I hate...but I love my Raiju for PS4. Actual mouse microswitches for buttons is a beautiful thing. Even if the "feel" of the elite is better.) Stock controller is nice but after metal shaft sticks that glide...it's hard to accept it. I'm spoiled by premium inputs Wireless.....or reliablity....hard to pick. Plus I'd like to save that rare Scorpio controller. It's just a silk screened word in green. But it's rare!
And before you ask: I don't have a headset and I probably won't be getting one as I rarely have any opportunity for voice chat overall
BUT i'm at least in the club! Here's hoping to some great E3 announcements (and hopefully an Elite 2.0 if I don't buy one before they go out of supply totally in doubt of a new one!)
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