Square Enix is basically in the same boat. They've been developing Final Fantasy XV for like 8 years or so, and they keep releasing games on iOS and Android, that AFAIK, no one cares about as much people on consoles do. I don't think Square Enix will make money back on Final Fantasy XV, unless it sells an outrageous amount like 30-40 million copies. Good luck with that, I guess.
Capcom has pretty much given up on new Mega Man games, it seems. Resident Evil is still OK, IMO. That series has always been off and on, with RE6 probably being the worst for fans, IMO. 1, 2, 4, and 5 were probably the biggest highlights. Some of their games are still doing really well. Capcom has Monster Hunter and Dead Rising. People still like those alot. Those weren't always the games they were known for specifically, by most people, so it's good for them that that is the case and they seem to have embraced that.
Konami is Metal Gear Solid Inc, at this point, and DDR being destroyed by Just Dance has probably taken a toll. They could reboot that, if they tried hard enough, but that might mean it will never happen.
People are angry about the direction Pacman is taking. The last good Pacman game, IMO, was Pac World 2, and that's like 2002. Tekken is still good, but people aren't buying it enough.
There's always something to criticise about any company. That's just how it goes.
Too much money is being invested in game development these days.
I think this only applies to AAA titles. Problem is that gaming journalism and the community focuses so much on those AAA titles. We all like to point at Square Enix for spending 10 years on Final Fantasy XV and 100 million dollars on Tomb Raider, bemoaning the state of the industry, but these aren't typical projects, even for Square. We're still getting Bravely Second and Final Fantasy Explorers to the 3DS, but you would never know it if you didn't frequent Nintendo fan sites like this one.
Honestly though, maybe it's a good thing. I'm tired of big companies showing off their latest state-of-the-art engine on the newest hardware, giving me a 20 hour interactive movie, and then asking me to buy the overpriced DLC. If the industry collapses, indies will survive. Nintendo will survive. Studios that focus on low-to-mid range projects like Atlus and Namco will survive. Studios that go for a blockbuster with every title they make and rely on a bigger company to bankroll them, studios like Naughty Dog and Bungie, they might not survive. It will be interesting to see where the industry stands in 10 years. Console gaming as we know it now may not even exist any more.
So Anakin kneels before Monster Mash and pledges his loyalty to the graveyard smash.
@SpookyMeths i hope the industry will change and maybe collapse too, but i dont think it will really help because nowadays you have game companies that are just way too big to fail. some of them like square could fail and vanish but companies like EA or Activision will not go away even if they fail with severtal AAA titles. they still make enough money with stuff like FIFA and CoD which always sell very good besides not much big changes. as long as people buy these kind of games, companies like that will survive too. and i do not see that people will stop buying FIFA and CoD EVERY YEAR AGAIN AND AGAIN !!!
Cancelled Megaman games: I don't understand why people hold grudges for cancelled games. A game gets cancelled. Move on and enjoy something else.
This wasn't just an ordinary cancellation. That was like two or three in a row. Mega Man Legends 3 is quite notable. I have yet to play them sadly but I do know the fans had been waiting anxiously for like a decade for a new one. To be told they'd get it AND they'd be able to give their input on the development process sounds like a dream. I could only imagine the sting of having it canned as fast as it was, it probably felt like someone at Capcom was just a very clever troll.
Well people don't like capcom very much mostly because the on disc DLC for Street fighter X Tekken, cancelled megaman games, unessesary DMC reboot, the fact they ruined the resident evil series, and just some overall bad business decisions.
On Disc DLC: Yeah, not a fan.
Cancelled Megaman games: I don't understand why people hold grudges for cancelled games. A game gets cancelled. Move on and enjoy something else.
Unnecessary DMC: Says you. Capcom obviously though it was time for a new instalment, which is why they made it (and it was pretty good).
Resident Evil: 5 is around 85 on Metacritic, 6 is around 70 and Revelations is around 80. That's hardly a ruined franchise.
As for why people hate Konami they basically stopped making games outside of the metal gear series, and the God of warvania games kinda upset some fans.
I regret typing all of that because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Alright... so.. Aviator. I can understand some of what you're saying.. but you're also an idiot ^_^. Don't come in here talking like some kind of pro. FIRST of all. Playing favorites has nothing to do with what this post started off about . In fact it was a question wondering why Konami and Capcom are hated. Now this isn't playing favorites xD, this is someone opening their eyes as to why they shouldn't waste their money on games that are truthfully nothing but.. well.. nothing : /. So, not playing favorites, just not wasting money.
Second: On Disc DLC: hey you got that one right, numb nuts.
Megaman Cancelled Games: ^_^ butt hurt over cancelled games? No no.. Butt Hurt over the fact that Capcom has fired Keiji Inafune and there will more then likely never be another MegaMan game that is made right. EVER. In Fact... lets go into details since this answers your other stupid remark xD. Every single game series, that Capcom has! The spirit of them is dead! Why? Because NONE of them, are made by the same teams as the ones who actually MADE them. Resident Evil is a fun game to this day, some half-assed (RE6, with its 3 mercs levels, and awful unlocking and replayability) but it became the movie. Nothing to really do with Survival Horror. Seriously! How am I suppose to be scared when I have a massive arsenal on me, OUT OF BULLETS!? Oh Well, I'll just beat the F@#$ out of everything with my hands . Old School Resident Evil used to be scary, with the oldschool Tank Controls, scarce, and ACTUALLY SCARCE, ammo, damn near impossible Head Shot probability, and etc. Literally.. don't even bother switching to the knife in the old school ones just RUN, type of gameplay . You know... Survival Horror. REAL survival horror, ever known that genre?
Monster Hunter? original team quit Capcom.
Devil May Cry? original team quit Capcom.
MegaMan? left capcom.
Resident Evil? original team left capcom, and even replacement team left Capcom, and the replacement's replacement team clearly sucks, I mean a "season" for a Resident Evil Game? WTF is this, Walking Dead? Wolf Among Us?
SERIOUSLY, I think Street Fighter's team is the only one still putting up with those lowlife scum!
And metacritic, and every other site, gave the Resin Hit Evil Games such high ratings because a good game rarely exists in the New Releases Line-Up anymore. Take UbiSoft for example xD, They had such an amazing showing last year , their games looked FABULOUS! XD and then we got ahold of them.. and every single one was trash, TRASH! Except for Far Cry 4. The Crew? crappy controls, AC: Unity? broken gameplay and... XD ha, no I am giving it too much credit, broken engine -.-. Watch Dogs? Worst driving I have ever experienced (not really, there have been some awful car controls throughout gaming history xD) and a game storyline that was so over used I couldn't bare to even finish it : /, such a disappointment.. Wait.. I haven't played AC: Rogue yet, so I can't say every single game. Rayman Legends wasn't bad either : ).
Konami included too, every single game they have ever made, is dead now. They are rotting into the ground. Only thing keeping them alive? Is the genius Hideo Kojima, and they know it! That is why they made him Vice President of the company! Go to their website, and highlight the Games icon along the top of the website, when the menu drops down, there are only two options, "All Games", and "METAL GEAR SOLID", click "All Games" and you will still be greeted with a big banner of MGS5:TPP. And the only other series they have that is a treasure in of itself, is Silent Hill, and Konami finally came to terms with the fact that the last 4 games of them that they made were nothing but a waste of effort, and gave it to Kojima "Dude, please for the love of god, save us.". : / Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised of Konami just died off and became strictly Kojima Prodcutions.. never would happen, but they might as well xD.
sigh I just need to finish up the last bit of designs for my game, and present it soon, if no one can do it anymore, then i will, : / stand up and remind gamers what they have been missing from nowadays titles. Nintendo seems like they are starting to kind of pick up on it with the new Zelda, and a few other titles they are bringing out. But even the Mac Daddies of the gaming industry lost their spark for a bit : /...
It's possible someone accidentally typed Konami and Capcom instead of EA and Ubisoft. You should check.
Konami and Capcom aren't all that much better than EA, Ubisoft, and Activision at the moment.
Capcom honestly is tbh, but that's only in the context of "they're making some games people kinda like again". I guess EA is too a little bit but only Dragon Age has really come out that fits that mold for a lot of gamers.
Well people don't like capcom very much mostly because the on disc DLC for Street fighter X Tekken, cancelled megaman games, unessesary DMC reboot, the fact they ruined the resident evil series, and just some overall bad business decisions.
On Disc DLC: Yeah, not a fan.
Cancelled Megaman games: I don't understand why people hold grudges for cancelled games. A game gets cancelled. Move on and enjoy something else.
Unnecessary DMC: Says you. Capcom obviously though it was time for a new instalment, which is why they made it (and it was pretty good).
Resident Evil: 5 is around 85 on Metacritic, 6 is around 70 and Revelations is around 80. That's hardly a ruined franchise.
As for why people hate Konami they basically stopped making games outside of the metal gear series, and the God of warvania games kinda upset some fans.
I regret typing all of that because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Alright... so.. Aviator. I can understand some of what you're saying.. but you're also an idiot ^_^. Don't come in here talking like some kind of pro. FIRST of all. Playing favorites has nothing to do with what this post started off about . In fact it was a question wondering why Konami and Capcom are hated. Now this isn't playing favorites xD, this is someone opening their eyes as to why they shouldn't waste their money on games that are truthfully nothing but.. well.. nothing : /. So, not playing favorites, just not wasting money.
Second: On Disc DLC: hey you got that one right, numb nuts.
Megaman Cancelled Games: ^_^ butt hurt over cancelled games? No no.. Butt Hurt over the fact that Capcom has fired Keiji Inafune and there will more then likely never be another MegaMan game that is made right. EVER. In Fact... lets go into details since this answers your other stupid remark xD. Every single game series, that Capcom has! The spirit of them is dead! Why? Because NONE of them, are made by the same teams as the ones who actually MADE them. Resident Evil is a fun game to this day, some half-assed (RE6, with its 3 mercs levels, and awful unlocking and replayability) but it became the movie. Nothing to really do with Survival Horror. Seriously! How am I suppose to be scared when I have a massive arsenal on me, OUT OF BULLETS!? Oh Well, I'll just beat the F@#$ out of everything with my hands . Old School Resident Evil used to be scary, with the oldschool Tank Controls, scarce, and ACTUALLY SCARCE, ammo, damn near impossible Head Shot probability, and etc. Literally.. don't even bother switching to the knife in the old school ones just RUN, type of gameplay . You know... Survival Horror. REAL survival horror, ever known that genre?
Monster Hunter? original team quit Capcom.
Devil May Cry? original team quit Capcom.
MegaMan? left capcom.
Resident Evil? original team left capcom, and even replacement team left Capcom, and the replacement's replacement team clearly sucks, I mean a "season" for a Resident Evil Game? WTF is this, Walking Dead? Wolf Among Us?
SERIOUSLY, I think Street Fighter's team is the only one still putting up with those lowlife scum!
And metacritic, and every other site, gave the Resin Hit Evil Games such high ratings because a good game rarely exists in the New Releases Line-Up anymore. Take UbiSoft for example xD, They had such an amazing showing last year , their games looked FABULOUS! XD and then we got ahold of them.. and every single one was trash, TRASH! Except for Far Cry 4. The Crew? crappy controls, AC: Unity? broken gameplay and... XD ha, no I am giving it too much credit, broken engine -.-. Watch Dogs? Worst driving I have ever experienced (not really, there have been some awful car controls throughout gaming history xD) and a game storyline that was so over used I couldn't bare to even finish it : /, such a disappointment.. Wait.. I haven't played AC: Rogue yet, so I can't say every single game. Rayman Legends wasn't bad either : ).
Konami included too, every single game they have ever made, is dead now. They are rotting into the ground. Only thing keeping them alive? Is the genius Hideo Kojima, and they know it! That is why they made him Vice President of the company! Go to their website, and highlight the Games icon along the top of the website, when the menu drops down, there are only two options, "All Games", and "METAL GEAR SOLID", click "All Games" and you will still be greeted with a big banner of MGS5:TPP. And the only other series they have that is a treasure in of itself, is Silent Hill, and Konami finally came to terms with the fact that the last 4 games of them that they made were nothing but a waste of effort, and gave it to Kojima "Dude, please for the love of god, save us.". : / Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised of Konami just died off and became strictly Kojima Prodcutions.. never would happen, but they might as well xD.
sigh I just need to finish up the last bit of designs for my game, and present it soon, if no one can do it anymore, then i will, : / stand up and remind gamers what they have been missing from nowadays titles. Nintendo seems like they are starting to kind of pick up on it with the new Zelda, and a few other titles they are bringing out. But even the Mac Daddies of the gaming industry lost their spark for a bit : /...
Wow i wonder if he's going to read this?
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Dunno about Konami, but Capcom just makes...weird choices sometimes. They said production costs would be very high to make a new Monster Hunter game for the Wii U...so what do they do with all that money they made off of Monster Hunter 4?...Put it towards mobile. >_>
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Both were among my absolute favorite developers/publishers until about 10 years ago. Both developers murdered my favorites series or changed it into something completely unrelated to the original/what I'd enjoy and most of their new IP's are very generic instead of unique and interesting. Does Konami even do anything serious outside PES and MGS anymore?
Well people don't like capcom very much mostly because the on disc DLC for Street fighter X Tekken, cancelled megaman games, unessesary DMC reboot, the fact they ruined the resident evil series, and just some overall bad business decisions.
On Disc DLC: Yeah, not a fan.
Cancelled Megaman games: I don't understand why people hold grudges for cancelled games. A game gets cancelled. Move on and enjoy something else.
Unnecessary DMC: Says you. Capcom obviously though it was time for a new instalment, which is why they made it (and it was pretty good).
Resident Evil: 5 is around 85 on Metacritic, 6 is around 70 and Revelations is around 80. That's hardly a ruined franchise.
As for why people hate Konami they basically stopped making games outside of the metal gear series, and the God of warvania games kinda upset some fans.
I regret typing all of that because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Alright... so.. Aviator. I can understand some of what you're saying.. but you're also an idiot ^_^. Don't come in here talking like some kind of pro. FIRST of all. Playing favorites has nothing to do with what this post started off about . In fact it was a question wondering why Konami and Capcom are hated. Now this isn't playing favorites xD, this is someone opening their eyes as to why they shouldn't waste their money on games that are truthfully nothing but.. well.. nothing : /. So, not playing favorites, just not wasting money.
Second: On Disc DLC: hey you got that one right, numb nuts.
Megaman Cancelled Games: ^_^ butt hurt over cancelled games? No no.. Butt Hurt over the fact that Capcom has fired Keiji Inafune and there will more then likely never be another MegaMan game that is made right. EVER. In Fact... lets go into details since this answers your other stupid remark xD. Every single game series, that Capcom has! The spirit of them is dead! Why? Because NONE of them, are made by the same teams as the ones who actually MADE them. Resident Evil is a fun game to this day, some half-assed (RE6, with its 3 mercs levels, and awful unlocking and replayability) but it became the movie. Nothing to really do with Survival Horror. Seriously! How am I suppose to be scared when I have a massive arsenal on me, OUT OF BULLETS!? Oh Well, I'll just beat the F@#$ out of everything with my hands . Old School Resident Evil used to be scary, with the oldschool Tank Controls, scarce, and ACTUALLY SCARCE, ammo, damn near impossible Head Shot probability, and etc. Literally.. don't even bother switching to the knife in the old school ones just RUN, type of gameplay . You know... Survival Horror. REAL survival horror, ever known that genre?
Monster Hunter? original team quit Capcom.
Devil May Cry? original team quit Capcom.
MegaMan? left capcom.
Resident Evil? original team left capcom, and even replacement team left Capcom, and the replacement's replacement team clearly sucks, I mean a "season" for a Resident Evil Game? WTF is this, Walking Dead? Wolf Among Us?
SERIOUSLY, I think Street Fighter's team is the only one still putting up with those lowlife scum!
And metacritic, and every other site, gave the Resin Hit Evil Games such high ratings because a good game rarely exists in the New Releases Line-Up anymore. Take UbiSoft for example xD, They had such an amazing showing last year , their games looked FABULOUS! XD and then we got ahold of them.. and every single one was trash, TRASH! Except for Far Cry 4. The Crew? crappy controls, AC: Unity? broken gameplay and... XD ha, no I am giving it too much credit, broken engine -.-. Watch Dogs? Worst driving I have ever experienced (not really, there have been some awful car controls throughout gaming history xD) and a game storyline that was so over used I couldn't bare to even finish it : /, such a disappointment.. Wait.. I haven't played AC: Rogue yet, so I can't say every single game. Rayman Legends wasn't bad either : ).
Konami included too, every single game they have ever made, is dead now. They are rotting into the ground. Only thing keeping them alive? Is the genius Hideo Kojima, and they know it! That is why they made him Vice President of the company! Go to their website, and highlight the Games icon along the top of the website, when the menu drops down, there are only two options, "All Games", and "METAL GEAR SOLID", click "All Games" and you will still be greeted with a big banner of MGS5:TPP. And the only other series they have that is a treasure in of itself, is Silent Hill, and Konami finally came to terms with the fact that the last 4 games of them that they made were nothing but a waste of effort, and gave it to Kojima "Dude, please for the love of god, save us.". : / Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised of Konami just died off and became strictly Kojima Prodcutions.. never would happen, but they might as well xD.
sigh I just need to finish up the last bit of designs for my game, and present it soon, if no one can do it anymore, then i will, : / stand up and remind gamers what they have been missing from nowadays titles. Nintendo seems like they are starting to kind of pick up on it with the new Zelda, and a few other titles they are bringing out. But even the Mac Daddies of the gaming industry lost their spark for a bit : /...
Konami and Capcom (and you can add Sega into this mix) used to make console games for the Japanese market, and other countries figured they liked these games. Then Japan got bored of console gaming and played brightly coloured games on mobile phones instead, while Western companies took the ideas of vampires (Castlevania), robot men (Mega Man), fighting tournaments (Street Fighter), zombies (Resident Evil), and alien invasions fought by space marines in armour (Contra), made them 3D, more mature and violent, and tacked narratives and voice acting that western audiences could relate to. The Japanese companies scratched their heads for a bit, tried to make their originally kid friendly IPs more western and failed, then tried to capture the mobile market and failed, then decide to mothball anything that didn't make money and keep churning out the same ideas again and again that could translate to modern western gaming, even though they're not making enough money by doing it. And the rest sits dormant because not enough American 18-30 year old men want to play 2D games with little storyline. It's very sad, but then that's the way the world is, unless you live in Nintendoland like me where Nintendo is able to keep adding just enough innovation to beloved 30 year old childhood memories to keep them alive.
Isn't it obvious that Falco Lombardi is actually a parrot?
It's like, I just love a cowboy
You know
I'm just like, I just, I know, it's bad
But I'm just like
Can I just like, hang off the back of your horse
And can you go a little faster?!
... Western companies took the ideas of vampires (Castlevania), robot men (Mega Man), fighting tournaments (Street Fighter), zombies (Resident Evil), and alien invasions fought by space marines in armour (Contra), made them 3D, more mature and violent, and tacked narratives and voice acting that western audiences could relate to.
I thought Resident Evil was always mature and violent? I mean, I certainly wouldn't let my three year old daughter play it.
... Western companies took the ideas of vampires (Castlevania), robot men (Mega Man), fighting tournaments (Street Fighter), zombies (Resident Evil), and alien invasions fought by space marines in armour (Contra), made them 3D, more mature and violent, and tacked narratives and voice acting that western audiences could relate to.
I thought Resident Evil was always mature and violent? I mean, I certainly wouldn't let my three year old daughter play it.
I haven't even played a western game in those genre's that was better than any of the best Japanese games.
... Western companies took the ideas of vampires (Castlevania), robot men (Mega Man), fighting tournaments (Street Fighter), zombies (Resident Evil), and alien invasions fought by space marines in armour (Contra), made them 3D, more mature and violent, and tacked narratives and voice acting that western audiences could relate to.
I thought Resident Evil was always mature and violent? I mean, I certainly wouldn't let my three year old daughter play it.
What I mean by that is that the original Resident Evil was slow, tense, and limited by camera angle and graphics. Some would say the Zombie games after it (including more recent Resident Evils) have been made to be glorified 1st or 3rd person shooters with less tension and more zombies 'sploding all over the place. It's a genre of game that's become antiquated to ramping up the gore with better graphics.
I also point to Konami's 'Zombies ate my neighbours', which occasionally has been deemed a classic but antiquated, and the theme has been pilfered by US designers and adapted to current Western trends (plants vs zombies).
Isn't it obvious that Falco Lombardi is actually a parrot?
Nothing, they have more products for Japan than the west.
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I also point to Konami's 'Zombies ate my neighbours', which occasionally has been deemed a classic but antiquated, and the theme has been pilfered by US designers and adapted to current Western trends (plants vs zombies).
That was a LucasArts game (which means it's a Disney game now). Konami was only the publisher.
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