This might be to be expected, but who wants to play like 15 year old games, in upresed 720p, on a tiny ass screen, while the game chugs at like 20 fps, the console overheats and the battery runs out in like an hour. That experience just sounds awful to me.
Which game is that?
Also the console does not overheat and the battery does not run out in an hour.
This might be to be expected, but who wants to play like 15 year old games, in upresed 720p, on a tiny ass screen, while the game chugs at like 20 fps, the console overheats and the battery runs out in like an hour. That experience just sounds awful to me.
Which game is that?
Also the console does not overheat and the battery does not run out in an hour.
I have a $4,000 gaming PC and can afford any high end laptop I want.
But I don't want a clunky laptop that requires a separate controller to play.
I want a handheld with gyro aiming and built in buttons. And I don't think I'm the only one.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced
@Madao
I love playing 15 year old games. And 10 year old games, and 5 year old games, and week old games. I like all great games. It's not like great games have an expiration date like a carton of milk.
I also loooove how games look in 720p on a nice 7" handheld screen (which is a very luxurious size- I used to play on 3DS with a 4" screen- this is mammoth by comparison, same as the Switch OLED, which I also love).
It also seems every game can hit above 30fps, which means with the frame limiter, it'll be a nice, rock solid experience across the board. You can even do 60 in most titles, but the cost in battery life, at least to me, makes it not worth it. I'm perfectly happy with a stable 30 if it means getting 3 hrs minimum on massive AAA games, and 4, 5 even 6 hrs on less demanding games.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced
@Pizzamorg So according to the article, no overheating or thermal throttling and just under 2 hours if you fully stress it. That's decent.
If you make a bunch of manual adjustments yourself, opting for certain things to be throttled, so making sacrifices and playing the games in worse ways, for a bit of extra battery life and even at maximum throttlage you're gonna have worse battery than the Switch.
@Pizzamorg Capping games at 60 fps when the screen is 60Hz is not a sacrifice. You gain nothing by letting them run at a higher frame rate and you just lose battery life.
@Pizzamorg Capping games at 60 fps when the screen is 60Hz is not a sacrifice. You gain nothing by letting them run at a higher frame rate and you just lose battery life.
60 fps if you want the Steam Deck to last for less than two hours, yeah. I would argue though that that makes it barely portable. At least where I live, on any journey I would consider needing a Switch, two hours is like the complete minimum and I'd need to get back again. And if I need to play the game in 30 fps to last the trip, I may as well use a Switch.
@Pizzamorg well at 60 fps it will last a bit under 2 hours on the most demanding games possible for it. You can still play games like dead cells for 6 hours at 60 fps.
It is great value for people that want a portable and already have tons of games in their steam library. But even for others it just has a insane library with great discounts during sale seasons.
I love my Switch and don't have much of an interest on this first version of the Steam Deck, but I still find it to be insanely good value.
@Madao where are you getting this information from? I've seen no mention the battery lasting that long unless they set everything to the lowest settings maybe? And if so, what's the point?
And most demanding games, you mean like four plus year old PC games at their lowest settings?
I think the Steam Deck is a massive rip off, I don't see the value at all.
As others have said for the cost of the Steam Deck you can get a next gen console, or a Switch, I have no clue who cares about portability so much they'd pay for this iteration of the Steam Deck at that price.
Dead Cells is a bit meaningless, because it barely touches the GPU. Existing handheld PCs with bigger batteries can play it for far longer. I wouldn't be surprised if the 2019 Switch revision could get a similar lifetime too.
I don't think any game time is meaningless. I'm quite sure it would get that much time on Switch, but that's because Switch v2 has much better battery life. It runs at very low power draw and games are designed for it to draw less power in general.
But given Portal 2 can also push 6 hrs, I think it's evident less demanding games across the board will get plenty of battery life. Anything beyond 4-5 hrs is more than sufficient.
Bottom line is as follows:
Less Demanding Games
Plenty of battery life. 4 hrs+ up and beyond 6 hrs depending on the title.
Demanding AAA Games
You can push full native 800p at 60fps and get 2 hrs, if you're playing for a short time frame or have it plugged in. Otherwise, you can be smart and use FSR upscaling with the system level frame limiter to still get a quality experience, but push battery life to 3 - 3.5 hrs. Or you can mix and match for something in between.
I'd certainly like more, but that's the best we've ever seen for games like this at this level of quality. I'll be rendering at 600p with FSR upscale to 800p, at 30fps, on Medium Settings, which will provide an experience notably better than Switch can provide for those games.
It's cool to the touch on the grips where you hold it, and the frame limiter results in more stable frame times than in game limits. It's very good.
And, lest we forget, all games will be playable with mouse gyro aiming proper- a legitimate game changer, especially for handheld play.
If that doesn't interest someone, cool, they don't have to buy one. But it most definitely interests me. Admittedly, I do find amusement from those who are incapable of stepping outside of their bubble and understanding why something might appeal to someone else, even if it doesn't appeal to them personally. Ppl have a tendency to believe everyone thinks exactly like them, and values the exact same things they value. It's why ppl who only play on PS/Xbox constantly question why anyone would buy Switch. They lack the imagination to comprehend why someone could possibly be interested in such a thing.
Psalms 22:16 (1,000 yrs before Christ)
They pierced My hands and feet
Isaiah 53:5 (700 yrs before Christ)
He was pierced for our transgressions
Zachariah 12:10 (500 yrs before Christ)
They will look on Me whom they pierced
Dead Cells is a bit meaningless, because it barely touches the GPU. Existing handheld PCs with bigger batteries can play it for far longer. I wouldn't be surprised if the 2019 Switch revision could get a similar lifetime too.
Yeah, exactly.
Like fair enough, but like what we doing, paying like 400 quid to play Dead Cells on the go? Really? That makes the value proposition?
Personally, battery life isn't that big of a deal to me anyway since I almost always play at home where I can easily plug into an outlet if needed. I'm looking forward to using the Steam deck to obsolete my PS plus membership, since the only game I play online on my Playstation is Street Fighter V (and it remains to be seen if Street Fighter VI will even show up for the Switch). Secondly, I look forward to playing the definitive versions of Rivals of Aether and other indie games that get most of their updates on Steam long before they reach any consoles. Did Persona 5 ever make its way to Steam? That would be a solid game to have on the go.
@Pizzamorg I doubt anyone's buying one of these just to play Dead Cells on the go, but if you've already got a pretty sizeable Steam Library and want to play handheld/portable then I can see the appeal. It's clearly aimed at quite a niche section of the market and it's never going to sell Switch-like numbers, or be the 'Switch Killer' some have suggested, but there's clearly a market for them given the current demand.
This quote from your previous post made me smile "...who wants to play like 15 year old games, in upresed 720p, on a tiny ass screen, while the game chugs at like 20 fps, the console overheats and the battery runs out in like an hour" Folk say the same thing about 3rd-Party ports to Switch 😛
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