Topic: Nintendo Life Playstation 3 Fan Thread

@Mickeymac ]Nope, you know an American who prefers his Studio Ghibli films in the traditional Japanese language with English subtitles.

So buyifng some funbux today and question.

Beyond good and evil HD or Rayman 3 HD?

I've never played neither of these games.

Beyond Good and Evil is one of my favorite games ever. BUY IT.

Shingi, do you like Zelda or Mario more?

Unless he hates Zelda-like games, I don't think that makes a difference. Beyond Good and Evil is a game so good that despite failing to sell well attracted Peter Jackson to have Michel Ancel create the video game version of King Kong (as in, I'm not making that up at all). Rayman 3 is a really good platformer, but not much else. And I'm nicer to the game than most (see: anyone who liked Rayman 2).

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I'm enjoying Rayman 3 HD so far, and BG&E seems nice too from the demo. Can't go wrong either way.

Outside of Majora's Mask, Beyond Good and Evil is probably better than every Zelda game. And I adore the Zelda series.

It just gets everything right. Story, characters, music, graphics (for 2003), voice acting, variety and general gameplay.

I'm personally burned on core Nintendo titles right now, especially on the Zelda titles. It's my fault for playing through multiple Gameboy Zelda titles back-to-back, but I'm just burned on the series for awhile. I'm back in a Japanese gaming kick and loving it. Yakuza 3 for the win!

I know, I've never played a Warriors game but I enjoy beating crap up so I should be good.

@Mickeymac: I want that .Hack movie/game too. Or anything .Hack really, we haven't got enough of it in America for the past few years...

@Popyman When you do invest in a Warriors title, start with Dynasty Warriors 7, or it's re-release Dynasty Warriors Xtreme Legends 7, Warriors: Orochi 3, or the the Vita exclusive Dynasty Warriors: NEXT, which I'm currently playing for the Push Square review. The reason that I throw these out there, is because older Warriors titles came off as hack-and-slash affairs that grew repetitious if you didn't know/understand the Japanese history lore behind the in-game characters when played on the standard difficulty, but these new titles have gotten the balancing down perfectly, and it really feels like your a bad*** general on a battlefield now: commanding your other generals strategically, strategically defeating secondary bases for their different benefits to help take out the final enemy stronghold, all the while your kicking butt the entire time. It's a lot of fun, and it's a system that has slowly grow into perfection over the years, but it's one that I personally wouldn't recommend starting at the beginning of.

Yeah, Slapshot's advice is perfect for a Warriors newbie.

One point of clarification: DW Xtreme Legends is not a re-release. It's essentially a massive expansion pack, or $50 worth of DLC on a disc.

Also, don't touch a Warriors Orochi game unless you know the characters. It's like a Smash Brothers game for someone who has never played a Nintendo game before: sure it's a great game still, but the REAL fun is in the character fan service.

Agreed. I can count on one hand how many times I have played my Wii since getting a PS3. It's nothing against Nintendo, I was just sooo ready for something different.

I've been burt out on core Nintendo titles since early 2008.

@Choco - Um, but fanservice games that are well done are supposed to be so good, you want to know who all these other characters are. Like Super Smash Bros. for instance. Or the Super Robot Taisen series. Or that Jump fighting game. Or even the Dynasty Warrior spin-offs like Ken's Rage.

Um, but fanservice games that are well done are supposed to be so good, you want to know who all these other characters are. Like Super Smash Bros. for instance. Or the Super Robot Taisen series. Or that Jump fighting game. Or even the Dynasty Warrior spin-offs like Ken's Rage.

I don't think I've seen a single fanservice game that has been marketed to non-fans. They're quite clearly there as something of a "thank you" capitalisation on the popularity of existing franchises, not as a advertisement for those existing franchises. Sure you might be inspired to try out one or two new games from your time with Smash Brothers, but the reason you bought Smash Brothers is because you already loved Nintendo characters.

Those Warriors licensed games are there purely for the fans. Gundam makes no sense whatsoever if you're not already a Gundam fan. To properly enjoy Ken's Rage you need to have already read the Manga. I played a Warriors knockoff from NIS based around Bleach and again, the characters are not interesting in the slightest if you are not already familiar with the characters of Bleach.

If you haven't played Samurai Warriors and Dynasty Warriors before and understand who all the characters are, then you're going to miss a great deal in Warriors Orochi. Which is why I suggest Dynasty Warriors 7 or NEXT, and Samurai Warriors 3 or Chronicles, before you take a crack at that one.

For me it's simple: there's very little on the Wii in terms of JRPGs and Strategy games (my two favourite genres) that isn't done better on the PS3. And yes, that includes the Project Rainfall trio.

When I do turn the Wii on it's for the quirky games that DON'T have an equivilent-but-better on the HD consoles. Fortune Street, or the Harvest Moon games, for instance.

...I bought Smash Bros. because it was fun, before I knew any of the characters. Dude, I didn't even know who Mario was before Smash Bros. And I did say "a proper fanservice game", correct? As in games that could stand up on their own merits, but are even better if you get the references. Maybe I would be missing something in DW: Gundam 3 if I didn't know who the characters were, but would it really matter? Not to me, I'm too busy having fun, and if I actually care about the characters, I'll find out about them later, and maybe I'll enjoy the game even more. I know I've gone into a Super Robot Wars game with absolutely zero knowledge of any of the series used, but still enjoyed it because the game itself was fun.

Now if the game wasn't fun unless you get the references and such, and just throws stuff at the players without explaining any of it, then is the game really that good in the first place?

I guess we just look for different things in games. I like understanding what's going on. That is important to me, so yes, it's entirely possible for a game to be really good but only if you've got back knowledge.

That's sorta my point. You shouldn't need back knowledge to figure out what's going on. And that goes for any game. I didn't need it in Super Smash Bros. I didn't need it in Ken's Rage. In Didn't need it in Super Robot Wars. I understood enough of what was happening because it told me, while enjoying the rest of the game because it was fun. If Orochi 3 doesn't do that, then I don't see how you can call it a good game. If it does do that, then I don't see what the problem is, and why it should be avoided until people have already invest time in other games.