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Sean007s

weirdadam wrote:

The God of War and Darksiders demos were exceedingly dull. I'm surprised mindless button mashers have survived this long. Darksiders is at least quite colorful, which is certainly uncharacteristic of games such as these on HD consoles.

Couldn't find Star Ocean at Blockbuster, but did take home White Knight Chronicle, which I'd also forgotten about. Hoorah. Time to check it out.

Well no duh?
Its always been a button masher. But then again your just probably only pressing the X button repeatedly.
Later on in the games,you find more moves to pull off.
Its like a new Genre now and has its audience like myself.

God Of War 3 is gonna be awesome. It does what its supposed to do and is targeted an SPECIFIC Audience who love story telling and button mashing.
Of course no else had an issue in the SEGA and Nintendo days when there was Final Fight and Streets Of Rage,only now do they all complain. Sad to be honest.

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Firkraag

weirdadam wrote:

After being super disappointed in FF7

Oh wow.. not just disappointed, but SUPER disappointed in FF7. Is that even possible for someone who enjoys JRPG's? What didn't you like about it?

It's hard to recommend Grandia to someone who would be that disappointed in one of the best JRPG's of all time. I'd stay away from PSOne RPG's if I were you then.

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Stuffgamer1

@Sean: Actually, I was really never a fan of the beat-'em-up genre back then (with the rare exception like Golden Axe). The modern stuff like God of War is much better, IMO.

@Firkraag: Now, THERE'S a logical fallacy for you. I'm not terribly fond of FFVII either (don't like Materia AT ALL, and the story's absurdly confusing), but there are PS1 RPG's I enjoy. BoFIII and Chrono Cross, for example. Not all JRPG's are created equal, and some will appeal to different people for different reasons. Assuming Mickeymac's huge explanation of Grandia still wasn't enough for Adam to decide, I'd next ask what RPG's he DOES like. That kind of knowledge is far more helpful than the simple fact that he doesn't like FFVII.

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Firkraag

I've never heard of a jrpg fan that doesn't like FF7, so that would be news to me. At least not by those who played it back in the PSOne days. Of course we can't all like the same games, but if you didn't play FF7 back in the day and didn't like it today, then you'll probably not like Grandia either since the former has in my opinion aged better then the latter. Therefore I do not recommend it.

BoF3 is great too, hope that comes out for PSN, never played Chrono Cross.

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Slapshot

@Mickey..... nice in dept explanation on the game. Loved the game back in the day.

@Odd..... Dude Ive been wanting to grab Resistance 2 for a long time. Im really good at FPS online shooters and Ive heard R2 is way better than the first. If they have it tommorrow at the store that is closing up Ill grab it. Hold me over until MW2 Map Pack releases. I had a really good game two days ago on MW3 Hardcore match I went 39-3 wich isnt easy at all on Hardcore lol.

@Stuffy.... I for one Loved the Materia system in FF7. Just a personal opinion lol. Maybe it was the fact that FF7 was my first RPG but I flippin loved the game.

.... anyone elso looked at the Insane Trophies on Mega Man 10?
http://www.ps3trophies.org/game/mega-man-10/trophies/

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Adam

Wow, so much to respond to. I've no hope of reading all this, so I'll save the giant Grandia review (thanks in advance!) for last and reply to that in a bit.

Guys, I know there is more to God of War than button mashing. I was criticizing the demo, not the game. The game isn't out yet, so I couldn't possibly complain about it as a whole. I just meant that, if there is more to it than button mashing (and I'll trust you guys on this), then the demo does a terrible job at demoing the game because that is all I got from it. And no, Sean, I didn't just press X repeatedly. I pressed Square repeatedly. Not sure why I'd want to jump up and down constantly, but thanks for your concern. Also, yes, people did complain about button mashers in the Nintendo/Sega days. I was one of them. God of War certainly seems to have more depth than Final Fight or Double Dragon though, thankfully.

As for Darksiders, I sort of got a wanna-be-Zelda vibe from it. Sort of like Ocarina-lite, but with even less interesting "puzzles" if you can even call them that. I don't recall how far I got into it though. I remember beating this one enemy who was only beatable by a certain sword which was found in the very same room. That got a laugh out of me. Nothing could be less immersive or believable. I got farther than that, but I eventually got tired of the button mashing and the forced backtracking for the sake of making it feel like Zelda when it was in fact very linear. Navi was very unhelpful, too. There was one part where I forgot where I was going, and he just kept saying "Let's crush the bat queen." Thanks a lot.

As for FF7, I never said I was a JRPG fan to begin with, but I do like some JRPGs, just not many. I like games that are full of color, light on plot (since it's a game it makes more sense to focus on character than plot), simple to play, and not too tedious. FF7 fails on all counts. It's slow, drab, a bit complicated (though not as bad as later games), and I find it hard to discern what's what in the environments. Sometimes I can't tell where I can go and what I can interact with. I certainly see that it's a remarkable game as far as depth of experience goes, and it holds an important place in JRPG history, but for my part, I think Final Fantasy reached its peak in the SNES days.

Personally, the closer a game is to Earthbound or Mother 3, the more likely I am to enjoy it. It's not that I want every game to be a Mother clone, but it hits all the right spots. Very colorful (especially M3). Light on plot (M3 less so, but there's still much more game than story). Light in tone (near non-stop hilarity with the occasional emotional moment to keep the experience grounded). Simple and fun to play (basically DQ + rolling HP meter + sound battle system). And both games feature perfect pacing. I also like the SNES Final Fantasies, Secret of Evermore, and a few other RPGs.

There haven't been too many 3D RPGs that have caught my interest so far, but I'm crossing my fingers that between Arc Rise Fantasia, Xenoblade, and Tales of Graces that I'll be able to change my position on 2D vs. 3D JRPGs by the end of the year. I definitely have a pixel bias. I think games look better in 2D, but I also think that 3D JRPGs tend to be designed differently, so it's not just a graphical difference but a design difference. If there were a 3D game that played closer to Earthbound or FF5 in design but with colorful 3D graphics, I'd pick it up in a heartbeat.

All right, now to finish my tour of unread threads before coming back to read the Grandia review. Woo!

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Sean007s

slapshot82 wrote:

@Mickey..... nice in dept explanation on the game. Loved the game back in the day.

@Odd..... Dude Ive been wanting to grab Resistance 2 for a long time. Im really good at FPS online shooters and Ive heard R2 is way better than the first. If they have it tommorrow at the store that is closing up Ill grab it. Hold me over until MW2 Map Pack releases. I had a really good game two days ago on MW3 Hardcore match I went 39-3 wich isnt easy at all on Hardcore lol.

@Stuffy.... I for one Loved the Materia system in FF7. Just a personal opinion lol. Maybe it was the fact that FF7 was my first RPG but I flippin loved the game.

.... anyone elso looked at the Insane Trophies on Mega Man 10?
http://www.ps3trophies.org/game/mega-man-10/trophies/

When does MegaMan 10 come out for PSN?
I think it comes out March 1st for WiiWare.

But I want to get it on PSN because it has Trophy Support

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Adam

Grandia sounds like it might be my kind of game, Mickey. Thanks for taking the time to go into so much detail. The battle system worried me as I thought it might be too complicated. I have a lot of games to play, so I don't ever want to spend more time learning one game than I'll spend playing another. Tends to ruin the fun for me. But knowing that movement is largely just for visual flare and that characters can be put on auto-pilot puts those worries to rest. I'll go download it now and let you know how I like it later. Thanks again!

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Luigi-la-bouncy

Out of the GOW, Darksiders and Yakuza 3 demos I found the combat in Yakuza the most satisfying. I might buy Yakuza 3 or I might get Heavy Rain, but the demo didn't really pull me in on that one either, rolling the analogue sticks to open car doors isn't really edge of the seat kind of stuff. I'll probably just sit tight and see what the buzz on the internet is like.

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Firkraag

@Adam sounds like Suikoden would be right up your alley. The story might be a bit serious, not serious as in emo cliché jrpg style but more of politic and a world at war kind of serious very very good at that though, and it has many parts where it lets up on the mood also so the game is perfectly paced. It's beautiful 2d graphics, awesome music, deep combat system, deep story and funny characters make it a must play for anyone likes 2d rpg's.

Untitled
It's on the US PSN.

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Slapshot

Kinda off subject of what has been going on, but Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time is flippin Incredible. Graphics are completely stunning and they finally tweaked the controls on throwing the wrench, zoomed out the camera somewhat and the new moves to Clank are very helpful and sped up the gamplay some. It just feels dead-on. WAY better than the mediocre Quest for Booty. Ive been a long time Ratchet fan and man this game is so spot-on it makes the series feel really fresh. Funny as hell and seriously beautiful. I need a change of pace from my usual hard stuff and man Im glad I finally popped this one in the slot.

I made a seperate thread for it here....
https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/other_gaming/twin_galaxies...
But, Im trying to go for the high scores on Jet Moto PSone, wich Im insanely great at to send in to have my records recorded there, but the guy who has the top records has obviously cheated and it really ticks me off. The 2nd and 3rd records on the tracks are 20+ seconds slower than the top guy and I can get within 10 seconds of his times without cheating but its impossible to get what he has recorded, either that or the guy know something I dont about the game, and I seriously doubt that!

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Adam

Quest for Booty mediocre? What did you find mediocre? It felt no worse or better than the previous R&C to me in terms of game play, but the price and game length were much more suitable to my wants. Plus, the pirate narrator was quite entertaining.

I almost finished the first PS3 R&C in a rental -- really could have if I'd been more interested in it -- but it just burnt me out. The game has more charm than fun, I think, and that charm can't be stretched out for too long before the game wears thin. I've been reluctant to play the new one for feel it'll be the same as the first one in that regard, though I'm sure I'll rent it someday.

I hope they continue alternating retail releases with downloadable releases. I seem to remember them hinting at doing so, and I think it'd make for a good pace for releasing sequels.

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CanisWolfred

weirdadam wrote:

Grandia sounds like it might be my kind of game, Mickey. Thanks for taking the time to go into so much detail. The battle system worried me as I thought it might be too complicated. I have a lot of games to play, so I don't ever want to spend more time learning one game than I'll spend playing another. Tends to ruin the fun for me. But knowing that movement is largely just for visual flare and that characters can be put on auto-pilot puts those worries to rest. I'll go download it now and let you know how I like it later. Thanks again!

I enjoyed writing it, honestly. It gave me some good practice for the paper I gotta do today. I hope you enjoy it. I said the same thing when I first heard about it("Sounds Like My Kinda Game"), and judging from the games you did like, I can say we at least share some similar tastes.

And I can agree with most of your complaints with Final Fantasy 7, despite liking it very much. Of course, I went into the game expecting it to be a story-focused game featuring an understandable plot that's not too heavy and had some interesting characters with gameplay that's just interesting enough and having enough variety to hold my interest - which is exactly what I got. It was one of few games that I got mainly for it's story, and of those, it was one of the few that didn't disappoint.

Of course, if you went in for the gameplay, or just didn't like the story or characters, you're probably gonna be disappointed. The gameplay just isn't strong enough to pick up the slack, IMO. Not to mention the early PSOne-era prerendered graphics are bad to the point that they do impeed the gameplay - the escape scene at the beginning was hell, since I kept on having to do trial and error on which pipes I could and could not climb on, and which is an exit, ladder, etc. Meanwhile I'm fighting random battles with a timer counting down the entire time...ugh...That's why I prefer in-game engine graphics over prerendered ones: You get a better sense of depth.

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Slapshot

@Adam.... if you compare it by price, its well worth the money, but to me it just dragged on. I was honestly glad it was over so I could finish up the story line inbetween Tools and Crack in Time. I just thought it was mediocre compared to the others even if it was a PSN title and cheaper. I could have gotten a FMV in the start of Crack in Time to fill the gap and been just as happy.

So in my quest for getting the high scores on Jet Moto and sending them in to Twin Galaxies to be recoreded, I know I can get most all of them on Jet Moto 2, BUT on Jet Moto 1 the guy who holds ALL the fastest times obviously has somehow cheated. Im really REALLY good and have figured out tons of ways to shave time, but looks at his time here....

http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&pi=25&gi=...

My fastest lap here was 3:17 and that was a flawless fun, Full Boost on water areas where you drop 20mph because of the surface, and no screw ups. That is a really fast time, I can beat maybe 1-2 seconds but he has it by 7 seconds wich I dont see how it could happen without the cheat that makes you go at full boost speed. All his score are 20+ seconds from 2nd place and I think this guy cheats.

..... Also if you click on either of the two other guys profiles you will see that they both have Hundreds of games registered and one guys holds many 1st places in several old school games. Not just random kids sending in vids. Some were even Referee Verified in Tournaments. This guys blows there scores away by 20+ seconds. Its just not right, yeah I can blow them away at Jet Moto because I seriously dont know many people that can even come close to me at it!

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Firkraag

just played through the darksiders demo, and i'm impressed. they gave us a whole dungeon to play with and it's delicious zelda esque gameplay, loved it. except for the common enemy combat. bosses and special enemys was aight.

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There he goes, Firkraag. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die. - My VGscore

Stuffgamer1

@Firkraag: I didn't play ANY PS1 RPG's at release, 'cause I didn't have a PS1. I got the ones I've played sometime in or after 2002 or 2003 (somewhere thereabouts) when I got my PS2. I don't like FFVII very much at all, but enjoy some other PS1 RPG's just fine. At the same time, I find my tastes trend towards older-style RPG's, like with Adam. I grew up with my SNES, and I still think it had the best designs for JRPG's save for a few special exceptions of this century (such as FFX and Kingdom Hearts).

I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who literally has trouble navigating in FFVII because of how the graphics were done. I've gotten a lot of flak for that statement for some odd reason.

I did not enjoy Mega Man 9 (never beat a single level, even though I've beaten all eight previous games on the Anniversary Collection), and do not intend to get 10. And I'd like to know what the people at Capcom were on when they made those completely obscene Trophies. WTF Mister Perfect?!?

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Sean007s

Just seen some new GT5 screens and it looks really amazing
Can't wait to buy it once it comes out this fall,which is my Birthday so yay!! lol
No money Issues for me! XD

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Sean007s

If anyone looks at the Playstation blog on the video updates.....you will shocked on how many Canadians want the video store.
It is filled with people from Canada asking for the video store to come to their region.

Also remember Sony announced that Europe would be getting the video store?
Well it did but guess what? It didn't at the same time.
Ireland does not have the video store.
Only "major" European Countries have it like the UK,Spain,Germany,and France. Etc.

For those who have the video store,congrats.
Sony Europe can suck it.

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Stuffgamer1

@Sean: What's funny (or what stinks, depending on your point of view) about this whole issue with the video store is people like me who really couldn't care less that it exists in the first place. I just don't use it. At all. Sorry you don't have access to something you want, though.

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