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Topic: How is Sonic not a legendary character like Mario?

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Socar

I get that Sonic isn't as revolutionary as Mario but seeing as how Sonic CD is really innovative not to mention that Sonic games don't have block structures that every platform game has but rather in the form of slopes and loops, I don't get why Sonic couldn't win any award for the interactive arts and science hall of fame. Even more puzzling is how Yuji Naka or Naoto Oshima never got any recognition for all the legendary games like Nights or Phantasy Star.

Just to be clear here, its a question that I'm asking and not something of a rant and I'm not one of those crazy fans either.

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CaviarMeths

Mismanagement of the brand and host company. Nothing else really to it.

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Sega has just devalued him so much, yet Mario has been handled with care throughout his career.

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Socar

But what about games like Sonic CD or better yet, Sonic Colors? Aren't those games suppose to be known for what they have accomplished.

Ok look, forget how Sonic is treated right now and think of the first game. Isn't that game revolutionary because of its momentum physics in speed unlike most games that don't have that sort of speed?

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The first Sonic game absolutely was a landmark. It's what solidified Sega as a serious contender in the market.

But it was still horribly mismanaged.

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DiscoDriver43

It is hard to be legendary as Mario when a large chunk Sonic's games are pretty bad. and when you have 2 games under the belt that can qualify as being one of the worst of their respective generations.

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DiscoDriver43 wrote:

It is hard to be legendary as Mario when a large chunk Sonic's games are pretty bad. and when you have 2 games under the belt that can qualify as being one of the worst of their respective generations.

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Barely any marketing, terrible game after terrible game, oh so terrible business practice, the list can go on. Sonic Team have disappointed me in every way, that's why I'm not a Sonic fan anymore (not after the crap that is Sonic Boo. Sure the Sonic games was good back then (I consider Sonic CD one of my favorite games of all time) but those games have long past. There nothing much to talk about now that hasn't been said before. Mario is quite the opposite. Mario may not have small Nintendo minors following him around (Most if not all kids now a days play COD) but he still going strong with amazing marketing.

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Xeno_Aura

Yeah, Sonics had a mixed history, it's not even recent. Whereas Marios main series has been consistently well received, Sonic has had poor games mixed in with decent ones. Since 2003 the main series has been pretty bad. Heroes started it off. Generations was a bit of a boost, but any good it did was destroyed by the next games.

I think the Dreamcast trouble probably hurt it, the DC didn't sell well, so after the first 3 games, the series sort of struggled with the 2 Adventure games, in terms of popularity, and the games after that point went downhill. Whereas by this point there were about 8 main series Mario games, that had all been well received, and a number of Mario Spin-offs, also well received.

Basically Ninendo really focused on Mario and built a ton of quality games over and over to boost the IP, SEGA released a few good games, hit a rough patch and screwed it up for all eternity.

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History is written by the winners that is why.

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BearHunger

Since when is Sonic not a legendary character like Mario? How on earth do you define “legendary” apart from being very popular and influential?

I'm more confused than you are.

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Eel

Right now Sonic is like the Kadarshians of video games.

Super popular and influential...
Because just because.

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MorphMarron wrote:

Right now Sonic is like the Kadarshians of video games.

Super popular and influential...
Because just because.

He is nothing like that.

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MorphMarron wrote:

Right now Sonic is like the Kadarshians of video games.

Super popular and influential...
Because just because.

Current Sonic influential.... just lol.

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Mario has had top tier game after top tier game, and a significant portion of people who play video games had him as their gateway drug. He's been managed very carefully, and even games that stepped out his normal boundaries (like Mario Paint, Mario in Time, Super Mario RPG), have generally been quite excellent as well. None of the above is true for Sonic.

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Eel

To fans, yeah.

If the series didn't have a big number of ever-loving fans, I don't think Sega would bother making even more games for it.

Sonic's still around because for some reason his games still sell well.

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Well, he IS technically legendary for how much he's fallen.

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BakaKnight

As everyone said, Sonic (ironically since the character) never managed to keep high the momentum.
However I wouldn't say he is not "legendary", everyone in the gaming world know him and he still have tons of fans despite some very bad games. He is not Mario, but he is definitely more legendary and iconic than most videogame characters and that's already a great achievement.

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DiscoDriver43

Dreamz wrote:

Mario has had top tier game after top tier game, and a significant portion of people who play video games had him as their gateway drug. He's been managed very carefully, and even games that stepped out his normal boundaries (like Mario Paint, Mario in Time, Super Mario RPG), have generally been quite excellent as well. None of the above is true for Sonic.

Well to be quite fair, the Sega Kart Racing series have a much more positive reception than they have any right to be.

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