Topic: Where's eShop Unlimited? $5/month or $10/month for unlimited gaming

I think it's the obvious thing. I've been saying it since the easy piracy days of Nintendo Wii, GC, Dreamcast, I've been saying it for over a decade. You can see also from my previous comments posted here since 2012.

What is the yearly Switch attach rate that Nintendo is aiming for currently? 2 games sold per console?

Well then easy. Make a subscription plan at $10/month that includes unlimited access to all games through the eShop.

Nintendo Unlimited should also be available on any Android and iOS device through an official Nintendo emulator.

For example:

Nintendo Unlimited Basic:

• $5/month
• includes 1 or 2 free premium games per year in eShop if you own a Switch
• includes all back catalog of emulated Nintendo games (NES/SNES/GC/Wii) to run on Switch and on any Android or iOS device
• all the back-catalog of Nintendo games can have added online multi-player, new levels added
• partner with Sega and if others too include all their back-catalog of games in it too

Nintendo Unlimited:

• $10/month
• same as above but no limit in amount of premium Switch games you can download play and uninstall when you're done with them

So the Android users who don't have Switch (yet...) will probably be fine just with the Unlimited basic plan, while Switch owners will more likely go with the fully Unlimited plan, and boom.

That revenue will be much more than what Nintendo is making on selling games currently.

I estimate this Unlimited gaming revenue might be as high as $6 Billion per year (50 Million Unlimited Basic Gamers paying $5/month and 25 Million Fully Unlimited Switch Gamers paying $10/month). My estimate may even be conservative. Nintendo could be making tens of Billions of dollars on Unlimited Gaming. Funding a future of the best games ever created.

Nintendo should then try to release a perfect 6" Android Smartphone with Joycons support and full Switch games catalog support.

Nintendo should also design some perfect $49 Bluetooth Joycons that can be compatible with any Android and iOS device to add the most perfect gameplay possible to any existing smartphone or tablet out on the market. So all the gamers who will subscribe to Nintendo Unlimited Basic on Android or iOS can try to have the best possible gaming experience by buying those universal snap-on each side of any sized smartphone/tablet for best possible universal gaming.

Boom. This would add $ Billions to Nintendo's yearly profits, will help fund tons of new games, and also be the perfect platform for Nintendo to also be able to expand into the Smartphone industry. This would also be the best platform to promote Switch to all this audience. Cause once you get a taste of playing a bit of Goldeneye, Super Mario 64 on your Smartphone, you will want to upgrade to the Switch phone or to the Switch1.

Also Nintendo should upgrade to Switch2 in the near future if possible:
Switch2 should have:

• Bezel-less larger higher resolution display
• 4K TV output support
• all current and past games can render in 4K through smart upscaling and rendering all textures with more detail automatically

Please everyone help me make sure Nintendo sees this obvious Business Strategy. This way Nintendo can easily also be the king of Android gaming. This way they will be selling even more Switches even faster. By providing a reasonable monthly Unlimited gaming platform, they will totally discourage future piracy. Let the Billions of Gamers worldwide finally be able to pay a reasonable price for unlimited gaming!

That said, I now go Switch on my Mario Odyssey I just bought the Switch bundle and I just downloaded Mario Odyssey now. I wrote this post while the game was downloading. The next minutes/hours/days are probably going to be important for me. As a 35-year old I'm hopefully not too old yet for Nintendo gaming (I haven't played much since Wii Sports of nearly a decade ago). Hopefully I can still have time to also do my work.

Tsurii, if you create a popular and original game on the Nintendo Unlimited platform, then for sure yes they will pay you ever month the fair amount based on your game's popularity and originality. With this, game developers will be making a lot more money. And with this, all game development will be done for this Nintendo Unlimited platform, with fully ARM accelerated and ARM optimized emulation and rendering.

In the future Nintendo could even partner with Android TV makers and other Smart TV makers to include Nintendo Unlimited right into your next 4K TV.

The devices that may be capable of Wii and above would have hardware requirements in terms of their CPU and GPU performance. And some newer devices would even be compatible with the full newest Switch2 4K gaming catalog.

I think a service like that would need to cost way more than 10 dollars a month to be even a little bit viable.

First off Nintendo has said they would prefer to make unique Nintendo experiences on the phone. It would be better for Nintendo to just put out what they are working on currently, the onine multiplayer NES games.

If you want Nintendo to change something, email the idea to them. It does no good sitting on forum where Nintendo will more than likely never see it.

@Charbax and you think they would make money from this? You want everything they have for $5 - $10 a month? Sure man, I can see that coming.

(inhales..than exhales.) Ok, Has there been any examples of an game shop to play any game for about $10 per month whether on a game console and a another system and make a profit?

@Captain_Toad The closest example would be PS Now. A sizable library of games (but different from the games on the PS Store mind you) for $20 a month or $180 a year.

@Octane isn't PS Now just $99 a year now?

@spizzamarozzi $45 for three months as far as I know.

Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, YouTube Red, those things are the future, for gaming too.

Just show me Nintendo's revenues and profit, show me their Switch attach rate in the first year. And I can tell you exactly what the monthly price should be for Nintendo to make 2x more revenue and profit than selling each game separately.

The future is in unlimited subscription services, that's the future for movies, tv shows and for gaming too. People don't bother pirating movies and tv shows as much anymore cause the subscription services are just easy and affordable enough.

It would bw a mistale for Nintendo to keep ignoring the smartphone, tablet and smart tv industry. There are literally Billions of dollars for Nintendo to make on those markets, easily. And it will all double Switch sales automatically.

I think it's a no brainer.

Android Run and Pokemon Go are great. But no where near Nintendo's real eady potential, just liberate the back-catalog and direct the future strategy towards the ultimate unlimited convergence.

Porting Mario Odyssey to PC, PS4 and Xbox will also double their profits easily! I should work for Nintendo.

@subpopz Here 's an interesting read on piracy:
The EU Suppressed a 300-Page Study That Found Piracy Doesn't ...

The BBC programme Horizon investigated piracy about 5 years ago and found that pirates are more likely to significantly contribute to the sales of any given medium than take from it.

They found that pirates owned more original and paid for media than those that didn't pirate. They were also more likely to be more experimental (ie try new things) and then actually buy into them, including historical stuff when they enjoyed a particular artiste or genre (if they like a new album by a fairly unknown group they'd search out and buy their last album too).

I'm not saying piracy is good, just that the media corporations aren't telling the whole truth about the benefits of piracy to their profits. They also don't acknowledge the fact that many pirates wouldn't necessarily buy or even use the medium they've pirated; some are just hoarders/collectors.

Oh boy...

We got another "expert" here 🙄

@zitpig That's why I think that the notion that a company would do something (e.g. a streaming service) to counter piracy isn't a great argument. If they do it, it'll be for other reasons.

But we are also talking about the same company that's flagging YouTube videos left and right, so who knows

Piracy will always be a grey area. Yes, it's technically not acceptable to obtain and use software illegally, but on the other hand, piracy has also saved many old games from disappearing altogether. And it doesn't seem to affect sales as some claim it does. It's just interesting how rarely anyone talks about it, as if there's an incentive to keep the status quo that piracy is harmful to game sales, or as something that's always bad by default.

I never claimed to be an expert - just saying what the programme stated.

@Octane - I never said I was for or against (or even mentioned anything about) a streaming service, so I'm not really sure why you mentioned me in your quote. I wasn't advocating piracy either - as a commercial developer myself, I've been and seen both sides of the argument.

@Charbax Those aren't game shops son.

@Charbax do you realize all the extra developement that would be needed to add all of this to all these devices. Not to mention the extra content you ask for. Did you take yourself seriously with this?

Don't ever start a business. You are suggesting a subscription service that actually LOSES a ton of revenue because you are putting too much value in the service. Sony's PS+ doesn't include the latest popular games for a reason.

Virtual console subscription would make sense. The cost is negligible and many would probably buy into it. However, only make it available for the Switch. There is zero reason for it to be available on mobile devices because you want people to buy the Switch instead.