Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

Well then, I am 100% sure that this means that BotW was rushed out the door and that reviews are going to note that the overworld is too barren to justify its size. I mean a lot of the stuff in the day one and first DLC pack sound like they should have just been part of the game for crying out loud. That being said pack two (depending on how big the additional story is) sounds like it'll justify the price in of itself.

@BiasedSonyFan Why did you tag me?

@FGPackers Matchmaking can be done through the console, that was leaked yesterday I think. If that's true, then great. That's the way they should've done it anyway. Still don't understand why they didn't mention it at all.

1. They've done the same thing with previous Zelda games. The difference is on previous consoles they had to be packaged as entirely new games. Majora's Mask, Link's Crossbow Training, Spirit Tracks, Oracle of Seasons/Ages, Four Swords, Triforce Heroes. Those could have all been DLC. Whether this is more Majora's Mask or Link's Crossbow Training it's hard to tell. It'll probably be somewhere between the two.

2. This isn't exclusive to the Switch. If it was an entirely new release as they've done previously with Zelda? It probably would have been. If anything doing it this way means they're giving more content to the Wii U and encouraging people to hold off buying into their new platform.

I dunno if you could honestly call something as complex as Majora's mask or spirit tracks as DLC.

Those were two complete games. Even triforce heroes deserves more than that. You cannot honestly consider them to be small enough that they would be DLC if made in today's gaming landscape.

@Operative2-0
Majora's Mask and Spirit Tracks had no option but to be significant releases. The only way Nintendo could distribute content was as a full retail release. If DLC was an option on those platforms maybe they would have done them differently.

I don't see why DLC and direct sequels/spin-offs built on the same engine should be treated so differently. Just because it's a new way to sell the content doesn't automatically make it bad.

I highly doubt they would have treated those games as DLC one way or another. They had complete stories with a significant amount of dungeons and side missions. If they were done today, they would still be standalone titles.

I mean look at this DLC, as far as gameplay goes we're getting one cave of trials and one dungeon. Not to imply that's insignificant, but that is not a full game's worth of content as those games you listed have. Aside from crossbow training, I agree with that one.

Totally agree here. And maybe that's why i was not so much disappointed on the "just through app" talk of days ago. Maybe inside myself i knew something like the yesterday leak was coming, just didn't realize until it came out!

French outlet Melty recently had the chance to interview Yoshiaki Koizumi and Shinya Takahashi, who provided them with quite a few new details on the Switch.

First of all, while we already knew for a while that the Switch uses Bluetooth in some way, Koizumi now confirmed that the Switch is compatible with Bluetooth headsets – and that’s not all, as they (and regular wired headsets) can be used even when the Switch is in docked mode.

Speaking of, the dock will be the only way for the Switch to output video. It won’t be possible to, for example, hook up an HDMI adapter to the Switch’s USB-C port.

Finally, Melty asked Koizumi about possible GameCube Virtual Console games on the Switch. While Koizumi sort of dodged the question, stating that he didn’t really have anything to announce at the time, he did say that they were “working on some things along those lines”. When Melty followed up by asking about the possibility of creating Joy-Con controllers with special functions, for example ones with analogue triggers specifically for GameCube Virtual Console games, Koizumi said that, while nothing is planned at the moment, the Switch is designed in such a way that accessories like special JoyCon controllers could be connected to it. Shinya Takahashi chimed in at that point, stating that, while Joy-Con controllers with analogue triggers would probably be pretty bulky and not pleasing to look at, they would make sure to include them, should they ever make special Joy-Con controllers like that.

Source: http://nintendoeverything.com/koizumi-switch-supports-bluetoo...

Or much smaller...

I think Skywake has a point - they were substantial releases because they had to be. The core gameplay innovations of those sequels could have been delivered via DLC if the possibility had been there.

There's a third option - since many won't "go back" to Wii U once they move on to Switch (for various reasons) Nintendo, by making it clear that Zelda will continue to be supported, incentivises buying the game on the system that will be around for years to come. Since there's a lot of "I'll buy it when Mario comes out - I'll get Zelda on Wii U" people out there it makes sense to tempt those people.

The timing of their announcement is otherwise quite odd. Surely a week or two after launch, E3 or a month ago at the Switch reveal would have made far more sense?

By the way i was noting something about the Zelda DLCs. It says "NEW Hero Mode", so maybe the classic hero mode will be in the base game and they will add something different. Maybe it is a little thing, but it can be important to underline

@FGPackers It could, but I think we're getting back to the same issue with the voice chat, we don't really know. They've announced a hero mode as part of the DLC, but we don't even know if the base game will have a feature like this or not. Kinda weird if you think about it. We know more about the DLC that's months away, than the game that is coming out in just 2 weeks. I still think that E3 would've been a better place to announce this. The day one stuff is stupid anyway and can be part of the first DLC pack. At E3 they could also show parts of the new dungeons and story mode, like an actual trailer. That way people know what they're buying. That's the biggest issue I have with season passes, most of the time you don't know what you're getting, meaning that the developers can release anything between almost zero new content or something that's actually worthwhile. But if people already paid for it anyway, why even bother making it worthwhile?

@FGPackers
I agree, I think the New Hard mode will be something ala Master Quest. Plus, I can't remeber where, but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that BotW would have a Hard mode included....

Anyway, the timing of the announcement is quite odd, it would have been far better that they keep it quite and announced it at E3, like, "its available to download now!" They would have killed the eShop for a couple hour but nothing major, and the feedback would have been far better. Now it is simply too ambiguous.

@Octane @Luna_110 Good points, both of you. I think it's another "wait & see" game that we have to undergo. Totally agree on the time, but i think that at the end DLCs will just be good enough and worth the price (i think they will be not just good, but awesome if they do it properly, and i think so). I don't see Aonuma-san doing bad on this, too much on the line for him right now, especially considering how much this game has been postponed. I repeat myself here: i think it's another way (like the Splatoon 2 Global Testfire) to fill even more the Switch first 9 months on a software basis. And it will be a good test to see how the fanbase reacts and stuff like that. As of now, for what they said, i think i'll support them, also because i really desire this game. It became a matter of principle now

I'm up for it as long as the content is worth the price.

You're missing the point. What I'm saying is that Nintendo releasing extra content ontop of an existing game isn't a new thing. It's just that since the Wii U they've been able to sell it as DLC rather than having an entirely new game as the only option. Nintendo have been doing this for ages. I don't think the size of Majora's Mask or Spirit Tracks changes that fact.

Ít's accurate to say that if Majora's Mask was DLC, it would probably be half the size and scale of what it is. It would still be Majora's Mask in enough ways, it would just be a much shorter experience than what we got. (though tbh, OOT's DLC would've been Master Quest )

Definitely agree with that. Master quest would have been the perfect DLC. I would encourage something similar for newer Zelda games

The "exclusive outfit" = green tunic.

I saw an ad on Adult Swim. Showed Zelda, Arms, and Splatoon 2 (pulled from the extended cut of the Super Bowl ad).

Would be such a poor form move by Nintendo and will lead to really negative comments.

The same way that if any of the traditional items that we see in zelda appear via DLC. The items/clothing have to be novelty items like that switch tunic.