Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@MarcelRguez Plausable but also a very short announcement time...

Nintendo would be stupid to not charge an upgrade fee.

But for Wii U games? Maybe half off, but otherwise? I don't think so.

Surprised that the next AC games are being released so soon into next year and we haven't had them officially announced yet. Ubisoft already have a packed Q1 (next Tom Clancy game, For Honour, South Park, Just Dance Switch port and the Mario/Rabbids crossover) so them having this as well just doesn't add up for me. Maybe it's lower budget and not the next main one? Or it's rushed to capitalise on the launch of a new system that Ubisoft have genuine confidence in? But then the main reason they delayed it out of this year was to ensure quality, is an extra few months enough?

Dunno about this one...

@WebHead She didn't though. It's not on her Twitter anywhere.

Bogus rumor.

EDIT: Nevermind, it's in her replies: https://twitter.com/LaurakBuzz/status/814016241413292032

So it's probably just some remaster collection.

The only Assassin's Creed I've ever cared to buy was Black Flag. I hope the new one can change my mind, if it really is coming to Switch.

@IceClimbers Ezio collection makes most sense which also works out nicely as the original games never made it onto Nintendo systems in the first place (AC3 was the first AC game on a Nintendo system).

"I've heard as much on AC release parity, Ubi want day one release."

Does day one actually mean Switch launch day? Or does it mean day one on the Switch compared to the PS4 and Xbox releases? You know; release parity. So it could still release late 2017, it just means that the Switch version won't come after the PS4 and Xbox One versions (like some Wii U games).

@Octane I'd assume it means release parity. No way is AC Egypt releasing in March. Ubisoft hasn't formally unveiled the game yet and they have 3 other major releases during Q1 (For Honor, Ghost Recon Wildlands, and South Park).

NA is getting MK64 tomorrow.

I don't see how anyone is surprised by this Assassin's Creed rumour. Confusing wording aside it's not unprecedented for that series to come to a Nintendo platform. Assassin's Creed 3 was a Wii U launch game about a month after the game launched on the PS3/360. Assassin's Creed 4 came out on the Wii U at the same time as the PS3/360 releases. Sure Syndicate and Unity skipped the Wii U but by that stage the Wii U was losing support from all corners.

So it doesn't surprise me at all that Ubisoft would come back for the Switch. They're throwing away the PR excuse that Nintendo's systems aren't powerful enough for their vision. Purely because they can't resist the opportunity to be one of the earlier games of that genre on that system. If the Switch goes on to sell 50mill+ units? They're going to want to have their IP on that platform. And anyways, they're not opposed to putting AC on mobile, portables, legacy platforms and so on. A Switch AC shouldn't surprise anyone.

Gaf is having an argument over what time period the games shown in the January 12th will cover, and how much gets saved for E3/Directs.

The way I see it, Nintendo basically has to show off enough titles, both 1st and 3rd party, to impress people and get some strong momentum going while still having enough bullets in the chamber for later use at E3/Directs/whatever to keep said momentum going.

If they blow too much of their load in the presentation it could backfire later when they can't keep up the hype and momentum with a bunch of new announcements.

@IceClimbers Nintendo could easily just talk about year one games during the January conference and use E3 to talk about 2018 and beyond while providing updates on late 2017 releases.

@FragRed That's what I was thinking. There's some on Gaf who seem to disagree with that though.

Not expecting Pokemon Stars to show up though. TPC announces stuff on their own schedule usually and they probably don't want to piss off people who just got Sun/Moon for the holidays. Expecting that announcement in April

@IceClimbers
Well this was the European equivalent that we got for the Wii U before launch

Obviously there's a lot not to like about that video. Content, length, tone and so on. But I think that sort of format would be fine. For a pre-launch direct it did do the right things in terms of what it focused on. They need to talk about prices, SKUs, services and so on. Then they need to go through the games that'll be coming in the launch window. And ideally end with an announcement of Bayonetta 3

@skywake End with an announcemwnt of Bayonetta 3 and watch the internet lose ots collective crap again because Nintendo cant have something nice for once.

This raises a point. Even if Nintendogets the games and some great third party exclusives like a Bayonetta, who is to say itll be viewed as worth it?

@BLP_Software
Some people make up their minds very early on. They then spin everything they see in a way that suits their narrative. Especially the things that run counter to that narrative. Bayonetta 2 was one of the only major positives about the Wii U for the "core gamer" audience early on. So the fact that it existed became something to criticise.

The Switch definitely needs content like that. What needs to be different is the volume of that sort of content. If it gets enough? People will stop talking about how horrible it is that this game or that is a Switch exclusive. Instead they'll start talking about how awesome the Switch's library is or at the very least not get an easy audience for their negativity.

@BLP_Software If rumours are to be believed it'll be Beyond Good and Evil 2 that sets the internet alight this time round. A Bayonetta 3 wouldn't so much because the second was already exclusive and I feel people would be more prepared to accept a third exclusive.

@FragRed This is definitely true after her inclusion in Smash. I saw quite a few people call her a Nintendo character.

@BLP_Software The same would happen if Bayonetta 3 turned out to be an Xbox exclusive, or if Monster Hunster suddenly became a PlayStation exclusive again. So again, if happens both ways, people get upset that the system they bought doesn't get the games they were hoping it would get. Whether that reaction is validated or not is a different point altogether, but I know you just want to create an example to prove your whole ''the world hates Nintendo'' statement...

That's some negativity I see a lot these days...

@Octane I mean you and I both know that this presentation does not matter one jot as to what reaction certain people will have immediately after it. Yes Bayonetta 2 would've been equally (mayyyybe not?) hated by PlayStation players if it was an Xbox exclusive or vice-versa but that doesn't really confirm or deny this "everyone hates Nintendo" thingy. Not that I ageee with that phrasing particularly, it's deliberately hyperbolic to undermine the original person's point, that being that people have already made their minds up.

Both ways too definitely but it's the rampant negativity that does more harm IMO. You better believe people will be called 'fanboys' if they find the presentation exciting as they have been for not thinking the Wii U was gutter-trash or not calling for Miyamoto's immediate retirement.

You've been here long enough to know that will happen regardless and surley who the likely candidates to say that rubbish are. Not exactly the world hating Nintendo but still incredibly juvenile and stupid.